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The EF victory in my cover series for Todyo1798 's EndWar series . In my quest to make these worlds as different as possible from one another, I decided to make the EF victory different from the status quo (in contrast with the American victory) and not a total stomp for the EF (in contrast with the Russian victory). I think I ended up with a more balanced world, which I think makes some sense given that the EF, unlike America and Russia, hasn't been a united superpower and thus doesn't have the respect and experience internationally that the other two would have. This EF has repeated the mistake of getting bogged down in a Middle Eastern adventure, although given the proximity of the Middle East to Europe, this is more of a concern than it was for the Americans[1]. They are also involved in more African adventures; again, a product of geography.As with the American victory, I decided on a new Cold War. Perhaps what would be my most controversial move is making this a tripolar world, setting the defeated United States apart as a kingmaker between the Chinese and Europeans. The EF-friendly emergency government was extremely unpopular with the Americans, and when elections were held, they were thrown out by the American Popular Party, which are basically Trumpists that are further to the right[2]. The reason I went for this was so I could get a monopole-dipole-tripole setup: the Russian victory is monopolar[3], the American victory dipolar, so I decided to make this one tripolar. The Americans hate the EF, but they also hate the Chinese. They are nowhere near as powerful as the pre-war United States, and their sphere of influence is mostly acting against China in the Pacific. They are hemmed in by EF allies and the superior EF military in the Atlantic, so the EF mostly disregards them as crazy people.
That being said, Europe is the big boy on the block, and their allies help. India and the new South American Union are formidable economic and military powers in their own right. I like this contrast of Europe preferring strong allies from the (former) Third World, while the Americans prefer strong allies in the First World, and the Russians prefer being top dog no matter what.
Speaking of China, this China is a bit beefier than the American victory China. Given the complete collapse of Russia, I pictured the People's Republic taking the opportunity to seize parts of Russia that Beijing thought was unfairly taken from them. With the Russian military completely destroyed, they weren't in much of a position to fight back. Despite the appearances, China here is a bit weaker than China in the American victory, at least internationally. The EF is rather more popular than the United States in that parallel universe, and so they have more support from Third World regimes. Being more humanitarian and less "shock and awe" has given the EF a very good image abroad, although the continuing counter-terrorism campaign in Russia may change that.
[1] The American public was not going to stomach another War on Terror. Latin American adventures, on the other hand, are perfectly acceptable.
[2] They are committed to the idea of democracy, at least within their own country, having campaigned endlessly during the occupation for the return to free elections.
[3] Well, one and a half.
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Comments: 41
SinaDelendaEst [2017-12-26 15:49:53 +0000 UTC]
I noticed something missing. What does the EF think of China? You've mentioned that after being defeated in the End War (though not totally occupied and partitioned like Russia was), the USA has decided to focus on containing China instead. But there's no mention of what, if anything, the EF is doing to contain China, and since the EF, not the US, is the dominant superpower here, it stands to reason that China would be a bigger concern for them than for the Americans.
Instead the description makes it sound like only the US is doing anything to restrain the Chinese, which is a bit odd considering they just lost a world war which greatly curtailed their global influence, while the winner of said war just doesn't seem to care. That could actually make sense: perhaps the EF thinks they are so strong that China is no concern to them. After all, even if they didn't really intend to, they already have China's possible expansion zones cut off by allying India and South America and putting Africa and Central Asia in their sphere of influence. Add to that the fact that the EF is seen as humanitarian and has a very good image abroad, and it could make sense that the Europeans don't see China as a threat to them.
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RvBOMally In reply to SinaDelendaEst [2017-12-28 05:49:55 +0000 UTC]
That was my thinking: the EF is convinced that China is contained, and views the Americans and paranoid for opposing them.
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SinaDelendaEst In reply to RvBOMally [2017-12-29 19:44:31 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for the answer.
One wonders if the EF's assessment of the situation will prove to be correct or incorrect...
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wabash56 [2017-06-07 20:55:12 +0000 UTC]
There's a part of burma that's not the same color as the rest of the chinese allies
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RvBOMally In reply to wabash56 [2017-06-08 05:52:05 +0000 UTC]
I could have sworn I fixed that. Thanks!
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RvBOMally In reply to BagelBagelBagel [2017-04-07 18:52:48 +0000 UTC]
USA is much weaker than China.
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MartyrFan [2017-04-01 00:13:32 +0000 UTC]
My favorite part about this one was that North and South Korea were reunited under the South Korean government. The EF is going to have its hands full in the Middle East.
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privateX007 [2017-03-22 01:03:44 +0000 UTC]
As much as I like this outcome (the EF was my favourite faction by far), I think that the euros may be trying to chew a bit too much. They may have a Not-Shoot-On-Sight relationship with the yanks and they may have burned Russia to the ground; but that is a lot of ground to cover, way too many things to take care of.
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RvBOMally In reply to privateX007 [2017-03-22 01:52:38 +0000 UTC]
Yep, a deliberate depiction on my part. The EF wants to be the hero of the world.
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EmperorOfMing [2017-03-20 06:31:25 +0000 UTC]
We are at war with China. We are always at war with China.
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wilji1070 [2017-03-19 22:26:54 +0000 UTC]
Honestly, I think the USA being the Kingmaker in this scenario is probably the more logical choice since I can't see any EF-friendly politician being remotely successful in the setting. Admittedly I'm more than a little curious about the American Popular Party's long term viability in the country. Still, I can't see the APP choosing either of the two blocs to ally with for one reason or another.
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RvBOMally In reply to wilji1070 [2017-03-20 00:21:02 +0000 UTC]
The APP is in the enviable position of being able to blame everything that goes wrong on the EF, and claim credit for everything that goes right. I think a split between left and right in the APP is what will bring it down.
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wilji1070 In reply to RvBOMally [2017-03-20 00:22:39 +0000 UTC]
It kinda makes me wish that the EndWar game actually went this in-depth... Maybe some video game developer will see these scenarios and commission you
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RvBOMally In reply to wilji1070 [2017-03-20 00:24:42 +0000 UTC]
I think a modern EndWar remake, or a WWIII RTS with America, the EU, Russia and China, would be very popular now. There's plenty of new plot material in recent years to work with.
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wilji1070 In reply to RvBOMally [2017-03-20 00:25:52 +0000 UTC]
The downside is how restrictive China is with regards to games. Can't depict an invasion of China, therefore China gets thrown to the backburner and forgotten.
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MetalSlimeHunt [2017-03-18 20:15:17 +0000 UTC]
"why don't you call it futbol like the rest of the world"
no
"all civilized countries have at least 5000 days paternity leave and in-house government nannies"
noooooooo
"no culture but mcdonalds bluejeans have a pint and talk in metric m8"
NOOOOOOOOOOO
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RvBOMally In reply to MetalSlimeHunt [2017-03-18 20:29:35 +0000 UTC]
I call them association football and American football, because I don't play that game.
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PachPachis [2017-03-18 19:07:43 +0000 UTC]
I noticed your reference to Mattystereo's work with that Washington-Jakarta Pact. Interesting making it explicitly conservative rather than moderate-centristic.
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Mattystereo In reply to PachPachis [2017-03-19 03:49:13 +0000 UTC]
"Washington-Jakarta Pact"
I like it. Honestly, an IndonAmerican Alliance has a great deal of strategic potential, especially since unlike a state like India, Indonesia won't inevitably ROFLstomp the US in terms of bloc primacy in the long term. The similarities in our governments, foreign policies, and sinoskepticism too makes it a rather comfortable fit, and honestly should be experimented with more in future histories.
Also, given Indonesia's positive view (and emulation) of Japan, the trifecta works a lot better than many other FH Pacific Alliances.
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RvBOMally In reply to PachPachis [2017-03-18 20:29:02 +0000 UTC]
I wanted to create an ideological gap between the EF and the US that would be difficult to bridge.
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Matthew-Travelmaster [2017-03-18 17:17:59 +0000 UTC]
Interesting post-war setting for the game.
Looks like Europe has overstretched itself quiiiiiiite a bit in reorganizing the world. They should have sticked to one project at a time, and not try to fix the entire world at once.
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RvBOMally In reply to Matthew-Travelmaster [2017-03-20 00:21:37 +0000 UTC]
Yes, a frequent mistake of young empires. Their naïveté is already costing them.
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123456789JD In reply to RvBOMally [2017-03-18 21:49:30 +0000 UTC]
Did they kick out the Muslims in their continent?
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mdc01957 [2017-03-18 14:10:42 +0000 UTC]
Russian EndWar scenario when?
Nice work, btw. Though the Tibet bits of China have a somewhat different hue.
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MrImperatorRoma In reply to mdc01957 [2017-03-18 16:44:16 +0000 UTC]
Tibet's just orchestrating a rather 'edgy' rebellion.
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WatcherInThePuddle [2017-03-18 13:45:35 +0000 UTC]
Very nice.
You seem to have left an odd coloured square in China though?
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RvBOMally In reply to WatcherInThePuddle [2017-03-18 20:28:15 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, that was a mistake. I changed it.
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Whiteshore1 [2017-03-18 13:08:41 +0000 UTC]
Is the populist President of the Philippines one Rodrigo Duterte or some other guy?
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Todyo1798 [2017-03-18 12:42:09 +0000 UTC]
You forgot 6, Hungary. In my scenario Hungary was essentially just a quasi-Fascist Russian puppet, and not allowed back into the EU proper as punishment for human rights abuses. I assume you were doing something similar.
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RvBOMally In reply to Todyo1798 [2017-03-18 12:51:36 +0000 UTC]
Exactly right. Although now that I have canonical approval, I'll gladly add it.
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Todyo1798 In reply to RvBOMally [2017-03-18 12:58:41 +0000 UTC]
Oh also point 10, that was actually a mistake on my part! But fair fucking play for giving it a decent backstory
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RvBOMally In reply to Todyo1798 [2017-03-18 13:03:10 +0000 UTC]
I recognized it as a mistake, but I decided to roll with it. It made things more interesting.
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Silas-Coldwine [2017-03-18 12:41:17 +0000 UTC]
...beautiful.
Yet, I'm missing the 6th point of interest.
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