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Surprise! Another cover, and this time I'm jumping off the Southern wagon to visit the other staple of alternate history: the Reich worlds. That's because I'm a bit tired of working with 19th century maps and, thanks to the efforts of SRegan and others, Axis victory basemaps are easy to come by. I'm also going out of order and exploring Reich-2 first. That's because Prometheus_2300 already did Reich-1, and while I have my own take on that, I'll post it later. I also want to go in order from least German-dominated to most. You think Dixie-4 has my therapist asking awkward questions? This set will eventually make it look tame.This Reich-2 map is based on Diamond's , and, like the Dixie-1 map, is one of the oldest maps on AH.com. I decided to change things up a bit from his version, to make it line up more with what seems realistic and what Steve Jackson Games says. Infinite Worlds provides quite a bit of detail, which makes my job easier, but it reveals a five-way Cold War with WWII great powers. Unfortunately, it's something that most people in the alternate history community have already seen countless times. But, such is working with Axis victories. The PoD is Lord Halifax becoming Prime Minister and negotiating a peace with Germany. Okay, I can buy that. But then he negotiates an alliance with Japan to break up the Axis? That's way out there. Points for creativity, I guess. Naturally, the alliance breaks down when the Japanese start supporting independence movements in India, and the British respond by running guns to China.
This is also the most realistic of the Reich worlds. Yeah, it's gonna be a fun ride.
There isn't much else to say about Reich-2 here, as most of it has already been fleshed out by Steve Jackson Games, and most of my additions are in the annotations. I depict the British Commonwealth members as British allies, but also have India under direct British rule because SJG's description implies direct rule. I also have the Americans and British in an adversarial position towards one another, but I suspect they work together more often than they do against each other. Technology is rather advanced, with all sides having orbital nuclear missile platforms that have frozen the world in a "Kalter Krieg."
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Comments: 31
BrutalityInc [2017-08-02 13:18:09 +0000 UTC]
Is the US still isolationist? If not, what eventually prompted them to participate in this five-way Cold War?
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Whiteshore1 [2016-09-16 12:48:52 +0000 UTC]
Do some foreigners refer to rump-France as "Occitania"
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EASTFverse In reply to RvBOMally [2023-07-22 15:05:07 +0000 UTC]
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springa73 [2016-09-15 01:59:51 +0000 UTC]
I like this one, even if doesn't seem all that plausible (well, it is plausible compared to the more common "Axis rules the world" scenarios).
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RvBOMally In reply to springa73 [2016-09-15 02:02:07 +0000 UTC]
You think this is implausible? You haven't seen anything yet.
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MrImperatorRoma [2016-09-14 23:46:16 +0000 UTC]
I'd imagine missile flight time between Berlin and Moscow to be the shortest, and with the most boom-boom.
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MetalSlimeHunt [2016-09-14 07:08:07 +0000 UTC]
Aw yiss, Reich-Sequence is starting. I can't wait for Reich-5, I don't think I've ever actually seen a map of that one before.
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RvBOMally In reply to MetalSlimeHunt [2016-09-14 07:10:25 +0000 UTC]
One was made available in Alternate Earths 2.
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dsivis [2016-09-14 03:31:01 +0000 UTC]
Brits must have a LOT of forces in their Middle-Eastern Mandatory lands...
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FairlyArtisticCritic [2016-09-14 00:45:19 +0000 UTC]
Shouldn't the Germans also have Namibia and Tanzania as well? They were German colonies before WW1. They also had colonies in Oceania.
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RvBOMally In reply to FairlyArtisticCritic [2016-09-14 01:02:50 +0000 UTC]
This is a WWII alternate history, well after those colonies were lost to the UK.
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FairlyArtisticCritic In reply to RvBOMally [2016-09-14 02:03:58 +0000 UTC]
But wouldn't Germany demand for those colonies back?
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RvBOMally In reply to FairlyArtisticCritic [2016-09-14 02:25:15 +0000 UTC]
Not if it costs peace with Britain. The Germans didn't win against Britain, they merely destroyed the BEF at Dunkirk. They then got a white peace from Lord Halifax.
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FairlyArtisticCritic In reply to RvBOMally [2016-09-14 02:38:25 +0000 UTC]
You do realize that the Germans were not pushovers, right? If the Germans destroyed the BEF, then they had a major advantage. And Hitler was never known to take negotiations lightly with the Allies. And considering that Lord Haifax was willing to negotiate more than Churchill was, I think giving German colonies back wouldn't hurt the British Empire. It makes little difference, but the Germans did originally own the colonies and Hitler's goal was for Germany to get, at minimum, all of its borders in WW1 and beyond. The British would have little choice.
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RvBOMally In reply to FairlyArtisticCritic [2016-09-14 02:58:18 +0000 UTC]
The Germans were planning on invading the Soviet Union, so they weren't intent on negotiating for colonies. Destroying the BEF would give the Germans an advantage, but Halifax still had the Royal Navy, making a German invasion of the British Isles impossible. What we have is a stalemate situation. Halifax was more willing to negotiate than Churchill, but that's because Churchill wasn't willing to negotiate anything except unconditional surrender.
As for Hitler wanting the German colonies, those were actually a peripheral desire of the Nazis. What they wanted was land to the East, and dominance over the the European continent. They were actually content to let the British rule the colonies, so long as they were content with Germany ruling the continent.
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FairlyArtisticCritic In reply to RvBOMally [2016-09-14 03:02:08 +0000 UTC]
Well, I have nothing else to comment but except that it was FDR who originally demanded unconditional surrender, which Churchill was initially shocked at.
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BadgingBadger [2016-09-13 22:21:12 +0000 UTC]
Good map!
1. Has the Eiffel Tower been replaced by something else, in case the germans wanted to resettle northern france with their own people?
2. How restless is India right now?
(typo in #9.)
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wilji1070 [2016-09-13 22:06:25 +0000 UTC]
I almost wonder if the President Kennedy mentioned here is Joseph Kennedy or JFK?
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RvBOMally In reply to wilji1070 [2016-09-13 22:42:43 +0000 UTC]
The POTUS is Joseph Kennedy Jr.
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