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So many panels... Why did I draw so many panels....

Art (C) *Sariels-Hope
SC (C) Sony; Sucker Punch; Sanzaru
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Comments: 38

RedCatStudioArt [2013-10-01 01:01:19 +0000 UTC]

Tell me honestly:

What did you think of the fourth game?

Because my boyfriend practically had to force me to see things that weren't awful.

I was very very sad.

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SallyVinter In reply to RedCatStudioArt [2013-10-01 04:27:42 +0000 UTC]

Honestly? I didn't like it. It disappointed me. It started off badly in my eyes, got slightly better and then crashed and burned with the last arc and ending. The lazy writing and innumerable plot holes still drives me insane. The character derailment saddens and/or sickens me. It feels like lost potential to me. They could have done so much more with the series, especially given the extra time that they had to work on it with multiple extensions made to the deadline/release date.

Also for people (Sanzaru) who claim to be fans of the original trilogy, they seem to have completely missed or overlooked many reasons why those games were fun.

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RedCatStudioArt In reply to SallyVinter [2013-10-01 05:17:44 +0000 UTC]

I completely agree.

There were so many small nuances with the game play that distracted from the story; the controls were too smooth, the 'new' villains felt recycled (I mean hypnotizing your enemies. really.)

I did however love how they portrayed Tennese Kid Cooper and Rioichi Cooper, though at heart, I still feel they should have stayed legends of the Cooper family.

I read a comment you set elsewhere about the immaturity of the game itself; on top of that there was no challenge for me. Once I got over how the controls worked compared to the old games, nothing was hard. They had plenty of opportunities to step up the difficulty level.

My favorite (and the most prominent) example for me was the Get Fish For Rioichi's Sushi Restaurant mission. In the end Murray says something like "We should get back before the guards notice us". I thought "Oh cool, I love missions like this!" and then it just...... ended

I felt kind of hollow since then

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SallyVinter In reply to RedCatStudioArt [2013-10-14 03:40:33 +0000 UTC]

See, I didn't like Rioichi and his whole level was something that was killing the game for me right off the bat. Tennessee got me back into it and made me think "Maybe this'll be okay after all" but no. Ultimately I was left very disappointed. =\

I didn't find the game very difficult either. Aside form that one bullshit motion control mini-game that I HATE.

Yeah, the first time I really noticed that parts of missions that would have been present in prior games were missing was in Rioichi's world too. The biggest dissapointment was the heist. Over half the things outlined in Bentley's plan happen off-screen, like knocking out the guards and kicking off the whole heist to begin with!

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RedCatStudioArt In reply to SallyVinter [2013-10-14 21:44:05 +0000 UTC]

I KNOW

The heists were such a let down!!!

I also noticed that most of the pre-heist missions barely had anything to do with the heist at all

I mean, in the other games all of the missions had to do with preparing for the heist!


All in all, I just think Sanzaru has made a mediocre game that is a separate entity from Sly 1-3.

I guess I'm just glad that Kevin Miller still is the voice of Sly :'I


Also why did they put Dimitri in the game IF HE DOES NOTHING

NOTHING AT ALL

He's even the STAR OF THE PREVIEW

What's up with that?!

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SallyVinter In reply to RedCatStudioArt [2013-10-15 00:51:07 +0000 UTC]

Some of the were reconnaissance, but after they rescued the ancestors the missions seemed a bit disconnected.

Dmitri didn't have a single line in-game. All his lines were said by other characters. =\ I thought the game was gonna be more complex, like it was with Sly 3. Having all these different characters that did different things. But, no. We got a bunch of re-Skinned Sly's for the most part who barely played differently.

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RedCatStudioArt In reply to SallyVinter [2013-10-15 01:07:44 +0000 UTC]

It really was a pity, huh :L


Oh well. I suppose I should just be glad there even is more Sly, good or not :I lol

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SallyVinter In reply to RedCatStudioArt [2013-10-15 01:09:48 +0000 UTC]

True? I feel like they shouldn't get a full pass, though. They could do so much better.

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RedCatStudioArt In reply to SallyVinter [2013-10-15 05:49:14 +0000 UTC]

Hear hear.


However, to me it has worked much better thinking of it this way: It's a really fun game on its own, just not as a sequel to the Sly Saga.

hah

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SallyVinter In reply to RedCatStudioArt [2013-10-16 00:46:49 +0000 UTC]

Hmm... No, even within the canon of just this game the writing would have driven me nuts. But the gameplay by itself was decent (MOTION CONTROOOOLLS!!! )

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RedCatStudioArt In reply to SallyVinter [2013-10-16 01:08:46 +0000 UTC]

XD Alright to each his own then hahahahah!

Well thanks for this exchange then, I haven't been able to talk to another Sly fan about some things that have bothered me.

My boyfriend (who hasn't played Sly before) had to drag me through the game XD

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SallyVinter In reply to RedCatStudioArt [2013-10-16 01:30:35 +0000 UTC]

lol I've talked to a few fans here on DA and my friends IRL. Some of whom have played the Sly games and some of whom haven't. XD

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silverfangirl14 [2013-07-26 03:35:04 +0000 UTC]

Love the comic so far ^^

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MusicAnimal [2013-06-02 17:23:58 +0000 UTC]

I love Sly...

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star-fox-forever [2013-05-29 08:15:00 +0000 UTC]

you added links to the other pages finally

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THEEVILDOER [2013-05-27 23:02:45 +0000 UTC]

Impressive, I love this comic.

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emi-wang [2013-05-27 22:22:49 +0000 UTC]

CooL!

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RyAction [2013-05-27 01:12:17 +0000 UTC]

Nice joke Sly. This seems like it's in character to the first 3 games more than 4 was so far, now I just wait and see for what comes next.

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SallyVinter In reply to RyAction [2013-05-27 01:14:31 +0000 UTC]

That's because aside from Murray, pretty much all of the characters were out of character most of the time. =\ I'm trying to stick with what I know and love and approach the situation from how the characters originally would have instead of how their counterparts in TiT did.

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RyAction In reply to SallyVinter [2013-05-27 09:04:00 +0000 UTC]

And that's why I look forward to what you do next, it will be how they should have acted. And now that you mention it, Murry really was the most in character.

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byronalex123 [2013-05-26 21:54:14 +0000 UTC]

pretty good can't wait

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yugijak [2013-05-26 19:39:38 +0000 UTC]

I WANT MOAR!!!

Seriously, finish the freaking comic!!!

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SallyVinter In reply to yugijak [2013-05-26 20:30:46 +0000 UTC]

Hehe. You'll have to be patient. As it is, I'm already fighting just to get the one page done per week

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yugijak In reply to SallyVinter [2013-05-26 21:04:53 +0000 UTC]

Everyone seems to have that issue when doing comics. I'd be lucky to finish one a MONTH since I suck so bad...

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SallyVinter In reply to yugijak [2013-05-26 21:06:52 +0000 UTC]

It's mostly because I work full-time. If comics were my job, more would get done faster.

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yugijak In reply to SallyVinter [2013-05-26 21:27:22 +0000 UTC]

Possibly. Or you'd just have more comics to work on.

I think I get how you feel. I think I stopped writing when I started working myself, and now I've been trying to get back into the habit.

After all, who needs sleep?

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SallyVinter In reply to yugijak [2013-05-26 21:29:45 +0000 UTC]

True enough.

I find I go back an forth creatively between writing and drawing. When I'm doing one I'm not doing the other. Best advice I can possibly give is just to do it. The rhythm will come after you've been at it for a while.

I like sleep. 8D

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yugijak In reply to SallyVinter [2013-05-26 23:44:30 +0000 UTC]

We all need it, but I find that I still work without it more than I spend actually getting it. Like 5 hours max most days.

I myself have a comic, well rather a manga, I've been wanting to do for some time. But I don't have any drawing skills, and I still need to put together notes for it, which I am SUPREMELY glad I started doing. Actually makes so my head feels empty somewhat. It's a nice feeling to have.

I think I've also started getting wordy again. Good signs...

Anyway, any advice for finding a good artist and how to get their interest? Minus hiring of course...

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SallyVinter In reply to yugijak [2013-05-27 01:15:57 +0000 UTC]

There are some groups and communities on DA that are made for matching up writers with artists for creating comics. I'd peruse them and the forums to see if you can find a partner.

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yugijak In reply to SallyVinter [2013-05-27 09:57:19 +0000 UTC]

Do you know any of those communities? Are there any you can reccommend?

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SallyVinter In reply to yugijak [2013-05-27 23:27:38 +0000 UTC]

Not off the top of my head, no. It's been at least a year since I looked into it, but search "comic" in the group search or peruse the forums.

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yugijak In reply to SallyVinter [2013-05-27 23:43:54 +0000 UTC]

I found at least one. More should be pretty easy to find with your advice. Thanks...

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SallyVinter In reply to yugijak [2013-05-28 00:07:36 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome! I wish you luck

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yugijak In reply to SallyVinter [2013-05-28 01:27:22 +0000 UTC]

I hope I don't end up needing it to meet an artist, but I probably will, so thanks for the well wishes.

And good luck with your comic! May it bear the fruit of many, many fans.

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Rose-Cooper [2013-05-26 18:53:02 +0000 UTC]

nice comic!

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slycooper11 [2013-05-26 18:21:45 +0000 UTC]

Haha, Sly XD Great comic also so far! ^^

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Nocturnal-Vixen [2013-05-26 18:06:42 +0000 UTC]

Poor Sly. I am loving this comic!

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polarmars900 [2013-05-26 18:01:06 +0000 UTC]

Awesome

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