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but he's rarely done that to the heroes in his own world, but if the Saiyans piss him off enough he probably would unleash the full power.
But like I said, he and Thanos are perhaps the only two of the gathered four who would take them up on an offer of fighting. Thanos perhaps a bit more quickly than Darkseid, (he seems to enjoy fighting more) but the lord of Apokalips would eventually step up to fight.
Though his attitude would certainly remind them of both Frieza and Cell.
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Unlike Cell and Frieza, Darkseid is much more coldly composed when it comes to conveying his smugness. Even then, he'd easily kill Cell and Frieza as well.
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well.. when he finally decides he's no longer amused he could. I haven't read much of the 'New 52' stuff, so the Darkseid I'm used to is the one who tends to not 'go serious' in confrontations unless he's really... really pissed. Which, you can't exactly blame him, he's frikkin' powerful AF, and tends to have minions to soil their hands for him... but it can occasionally bite him in the ass. 
BUT that's a problem all three have, ego and arrogance.
Still, the Omega Effect is his big 'ace in the hole' as that stuff is VERY much like the power cosmic and broadly defined in it's abilities.
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With the power they possess, I can see why they have the ego to match. Even if Darkseid does not use his "ace in the hole" Omega Beams right away, he'd still dominate in a physical fight, considering how he easily trounces Superman on numerous occasions. The Anti-Monitor on the other hand, is not the type to mess around, he'd destroy not only Goku and Vegeta, but the rest of the entire DB multiverse, which is only a measly 12, in contrast to the countless universes he destroyed.
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Goku/Vegeta = Star level (If Even)
Thanos = Star level
Galactus (Hungry) = Star level
Galactus (Full) = Universal
Darkseid (Avatar) = Universal
Darkseid (Full Power) = Multiversal
Anti-Monitor = Multiversal
Oh I see, Goku and Vegeta are playing to see which one of them dies first.
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you forgot
Thanos (Infinity Gauntlet) = Universal/Multiversal
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What? Goku and Vegeta are universal in base...I'm not gonna get into an argument but, they are 4D now. I'd say they'd do well. Star level is immensely underestimating them.
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If you're not gonna get into an argument then leave, but:
Goku or even Beerus is universe busters.
I can tell you first off that Goku and Beerus's fist colliding did not create shockwave's, clearly seeing as how Earth wasn't touched, and the wave's were getting stronger the further away they got from the source. That's not how kinetic energy works. Instead all it was was God Ki energy emanating throughout the universe, which only happened due to Goku's new imbalance of God Ki clashing with Beerus's. This explains how the wave's got into the Kai's world, a realm outside the material world. People bring up that whole speech from Supreme Kai "Destroy the Universe" except he also said the same thing about Buu, who was only going to destroy the universe by continuously destroying planets one by one. Kind of like the fight in question, that planet they destroyed out in the furthest part of space didn't do so from an act of kinetic force, no it was more like it sizzled out of existence, most likely due to the God Ki destabilizing its matter and then cracking under the pressure. The more they punched, the more their energy spread, destabilizing every other planet until it got to the source. They wouldn't do so instantly (already disproving it as a Universe Busting feat), they definitely weren't doing it from their own power, and its a feat that only applies to the DBZverse specifically. Explain to me why Zamasu, who was way stronger than Goku, when losing control of his power couldn't even come close to destroying the Earth while having all his power leaking out his body all Broly style, leaving massive explosions in his wake but nowhere near planet level. This is like Cell saying he could destroy the solar system but when he explodes he only takes out at best 10x the size of King Kai's planet, which is tiny. By the way, did you know Snake Way road is half the size of the DBZ universe? You know the same road that was only 1,000,000 km across, making the DBZ universe only 2,000,000 km long. To put that into perspective, the Sun is 695,700 km in length and the distance between the Sun and Mercury is 57.91 million km. So if we pretend that feat is legit (which it fucking isn't) that punch would only be slightly bigger than star level. They even showed in the anime that each of the 12 DBZ universe's are only comprised of a single galaxy. A single galaxy squashed into a space only slightly bigger than the Sun.
Hell, calling them Star busters to begin with is high-balling since they've never shown the capability of doing this. Its doubtful they're even Planetary, and to understand let me explain:
Blowing up a planet is not that hard, all you got to do is blast a large enough hole into the center of a planet from the surface without any interruption, and the planet will just forcefully release all of it's inner pressure and quickly come apart. In other words, it will pop like a balloon. It really does not take that much energy, power, or effort to blow up a planet. And that's clearly what is happening in DBZ. Like when Frieza destroyed Planet Vegeta that ball of energy clearly took time to get in through the surface and into the core, creating the build up of pressure that lead to its destruction, if it was actually planetary it would have destroyed Vegeta the second it the ground and exploded. Or like when Frieza failed to destroy Namek in one blast, despite being in a stronger form using a stronger attack, because he didn't hit the core correctly. But as you could see, the planet literally starts to tear itself apart, not in one massive explosion but through the build up and release of pressure. Hence why the Spirit Bomb which is clearly indicated to be stronger and has a much more massive explosion did not blow up Namek simply because the explosion remained in atmosphere and didn't penetrate deeply enough. Its even easier for Kamehamehas to blow up planets, I mean It's a singular beam that will not stop, so all they have to do is shoot downwards into the planet's center and cause the planet to destabilize. You even see this continued as far in as Frieza's return, where he clearly focus' all his energy into the Earth's core to blow it up rather than actually creating an actual planet blast. Hell, even Buu's energy ball that blew up the Earth clearly took time to reach the core, so its doubtful he's even Planetary. The only reason I would suggest he's even Planetary to begin with is because of DBS, but again he has no real showings. Even when Zamasu's power was leaking his blasts weren't anywhere close to Planetary.
Here's what Goku's strength looks like: We're as far in as Super and SSJ Vegeta couldn't even lift 1,000 tons, which when you consider the fact that Goku's base form could just barely lift 40 tons, that's actually only a 25x boost, only half of the 50x boost in power SSJ would afford you. Lets pretend each transformation affords its user the same kind of boost in power as it does for their Ki power. Then you would get: SSJ2/2x SSJ = 2,000 tons; SSJ3/4x SSJ2 = 8,000 tons; SSJ4/SSJG/SSJB/10x SSJ3 = 80,000 tons. so 80,000 tons is the maximum their strength could possibly be, and that's assuming they actually get that sort of power boost. As has already been shown, they obviously do not, so that number might actually be much less. Even if it is that number, its still poultry compared to most strength based characters, even compared to characters like the Thing or Colossus.
But now that I think about it, If Vegeta wanted to lift up that Metalman he would have gone SSJB to do so, yet he didn't even attempt to despite him running out of options. This suggests he wouldn't be able to lift it even in his strongest form, meaning both Vegeta and Goku are in fact less than Kilotonners. SSJ could be at only 100 tons in fact.
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Hey, sorry, I'm late...But how are Goku and Vegetation not universal?
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Very awesome and informative speech there, I really wonder why DB tards always make the same usual stupid claims of "they're universal" this and that. Marvel's and DC's power houses such as Thanos and Superman have been shown clearly able to planet bust, with their bare hands no less. Other power houses, such as Silver Surfer, can even easily collapse a star into a blackhole. And then we have Dr Strange, whom at his peek, could actually "clog" blackholes. DBZ chars don't even possess the incredible durability that the Marvel and DC powerhouses have. I mean characters like Superman, Thanos, Surfer etc, are more than capable of even tanking supernovas and blackholes. Goku on the other hand, was nearly killed from a laser ring shot, which is utterly pathetic. I bet DB tards will then make dumb excuses claiming that the laser ring is so-called universal+ and that Goku was caught off-guard. Even if say Thanos or Darkseid got shot off-guard like that, they wouldn't give a damn since it won't do squat against them. Hell, what is to say they'll let their guard down on purpose just to show the assailant that's it's futile.
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Yeah that really is the difference, DBZ only has is a bunch of destructive power whilst a lot of characters in DC and Marvel have a shit ton of Hax powers. Like Darkseid's matter/energy erasing Omega Beams, or basically everything the Flash or Silver Surfer do.
And quite frankly I've never understood the point. DBZ was always more interesting when it was low scale and personal. Shoving in a bunch of giant explosions always felt really pointless to me seeing as how much it lowered the stakes. Was the only point of continuing this upward spiral of madness just so Fanboy's could say "Yay, my character wins!!!" Well, good job then, your characters won, and your show has been turned into shit because of it.
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Thanks for informing me, as I said I don't want to get into an argument. Btw, Hell amd Heaven are also included in the DBverse. But, I wanna mention one thing, does destroying the DBverse, mean destroying timelines within timelines so on and so forth. Would that mean goku could beat Zeno, a somewhat omnipotent character?
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It may be included but its not a material world its a spiritual world, ergo shockwave's which involve physical force should never be able to go there. Which leads credence to it just being God Ki energy.
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Hungry Galactus is star level? In Annihilation even in a hungry state, Big G was still able to destroy several star systems.
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Interesting, didn't know that, thanks for telling me.
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DBZ tards for years have been downplaying many other verses that can easily topple DBZ, to sate their stupid egos. Aside from DC and Marvel, there's also the cosmic horrors from Stephen King's Dark Tower series that can easily beat these characters. Such as the Crimson King for example, whom is regarded as a multiversal threat, a being more powerful than even the pillar guardians, whom one can easily create universes just by puking.
The stupidity of DBZ tards lasting to this day is a mystery of the ages.
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Oh god, this picture has already attracted the stupid DBZ fanboys. Seriously, what is it in DBZ that make people stupid?
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thank you. Someone who gets it. I have seen comments saying goku and vegeta are universal. To be universal means one can one shot a universe at a go which they clearly cannot. So it makes me wonder how these db fans come up with ridiculous ideologies. So far in dragon ball, the only character to one shot a universe at a go is zeno. I would exclude the daishinkan and the angels since they are above zeno
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I don't think the angels are above Zeno, Daishinkan maybe, but not the angels.
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Aye this is awesome and funny. Thanks for sharing
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It's going to be an unilateral, unadultared MASSACRE.
Apocalypse can copy other's people powers, meaning he could basically unleash upon Goku the power of a Blue Super Saiyan God, backed up by the nearly infinite arsenal of powers Apocalypse already has at his disposal.
Thanos and Darkseid are each easily on Beerus' level, perhaps even higher in Darkseid's case.
Galactus is even more powerful, considering the power of his mere Heralds.
Othen than that, this piece look simply amazing, it's a true piece of art!
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Let me guess, that's the New 52 version of Antimonitor? Almost thought it was suppose to be some recent redesign of Apocalypse XD
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I thought Antimoniter was bigger than that.
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These comics fanboys are wanking,
I read comics for years and no one here can touch goku and vegeta who actually have feats
Goku is SSG alone can destroy the universe with the shockwaves of his punches
Goku and vegeta destroy a galaxy with ease
www.youtube.com/watch?v=26pMUf…
goku or vegeta can solo here
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HA! No. Clearly you haven't "read comics for years". Also, no, Goku can't do that. I swear, dumbass weebs think Goku is omnipotent for no reason.
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I hope you're joking because you have a yu-gi-oh name. Also, Vegeta has destroyed the HTC, an infinite realm. Goku had also almost destroyed a macoverse, hell and heaven are far larger than the universe, in his SSJG form, which is far weaker than his blue form. Also, we don't think Goku is omnipotent, we are simply stating his feats, universal detruction is nowhere near omnipotence, "dumbass comic bookworm".
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Oh yes, because my username is so relevant to the conversation you obvious dbz fanboy. And no, none that happened. Goku is not a universe buster. these are false feats dipshits like you use to over exaggerate Goku's power. Galactus here alone can solo these idiots. fucking DBZtards will just ignore actual shit and make things up. "Goku can blow up earth by sneezing!" DBZArtist? More like DMZAutistic.
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I hope you are joking!! XD
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It's absolutely amazing! Outstanding piece of art.
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If you give goku and vegeta the saint seiya armor I can see them winning but all at once I'm sorry I can't see it being a even fight but sense than is doesn't have the gauntlet yea they could win
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Or better yet galactus might make vegeto his Herald, now that would be ok all of the silver surfers powers and abilities fused with a ssjgb vegeto. I would imagine they can be in that form forever if he is galactus's Herald
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.... go marvel!!! still more intresting than the other 2 ...
nice picture though
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This ain't fair! At least give Goku and Vegeta a challenge! LOL Kidding! This would take at least twenty DBZ episodes to finish!
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Oh this isn't fair alright, but not for the reasons you think...
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Well I was just joking around. I know that even two godly super saiyans aren't enough alone to destroy all four of them. Maybe if they fused and still had gohan and trunks as backup, there may be a chance
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It's an awesome drawing. The only problem is that Goku and Vegeta can't even defeat Thanos. They will die in 2 minutes
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With how they are now a thanos without the gauntlet would be crushed he could out smart goku. But if vegeto was in the question he would solo unless it's the new galactus and he made the others into his Heralds
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Beautiful, Polished and Amazing artwork. You gave Goku and Geta there personality, (Ghost Nappa) Villains still wreck there shit.
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Will they win? Probably not. But this'll be good. Splendid concept. Well done!
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That is Fucking Amazing man it's my new desktop background haha
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Real question is if Goku and Vegeta are close to Superman's power, because if they are, then they can beat the villains. Of course, the villains combined efforts make it more difficult, but it is possible.
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Goku and Vegeta are nigh-universe level. Superman is in the dust at this point.
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No they are not even close, and the villains are stronger than Superman...
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