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My submission to MLP-ATG 's newest theme for this week, A pony and their favorite toy.Maybe it's because I'm a Trekkie myself, but Twilight has always struck me as the sort of pony who'd be a Star Trek fan. So, there you go.
The models she has here are based upon real toy models (hence why their coloration would probably seem off to fans) that I happen to own, as well as several more. Back in the nineties, Micro Machines used to make a series of Star Trek toys in their lineup that I loved to collect and play with (much like how Twilight's doing it) as a kid. They have since stopped, but I still have all of them, which proved handy when it came to drawing this pic (they served as excellent references
).It took me a short while to figure out how I was going to portray this pic, though. At first I thought I would just have Twilight holding them up with her hooves, but there was one big problem with that; hooves don't have fingers, and those models are notorious for not staying upright on their own. So that idea nixed, I looked for other ways for Twilight to hold the models. At one point, I considered getting Spike into the mix, and have him (begrudgingly) hold the models for Twilight, since he had fingers, which could've been a funny idea, but I didn't really want the extra character in there. Ironically enough, I thought of using magic very last, having forgotten for most of this that Twilight was a unicorn pony until the very end of my pondering when I realized that would solve the whole issue.
In the end, though, using magic probably made it that much cooler. I mean, think of all the neat things you could do with those models once you throw magic into the mix. Maybe Twilight could even use magic to simulate the firefights.
This is my first time portraying unicorn magic, too, BTW. Think I succeeded well enough.
The movie Twi's quoting is, of course, Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan .
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Meanwhile, Spike's playing with her Star Wars action figures "You have controlled your fear. Now, release your anger-only your hatred can destroy me!" And Celestia's in the doorway without their noticing, very amused.
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Nice! Twilight would definitely be a Trekkie.Β
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I never thought she could be sinister *shudder*
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Could've been worse, she could've done it Benedict Cumberbatch style.
"Now...shall we begin?"
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Lol. Yep, I know who he is...
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Oh yeah, Twilight would LOVE the Star Trek movies!
By the way, did you ever notice that Twilight and Spock are pretty much the same character? Both research mundane things to make sure they're doing it by the book ("Everything You Wanted To Know About Sleepovers But Were Afraid To Ask" and the campfire scene in Star Trek 5), both have shown ample talent solving mysteries (MMMystery on the Friendship Express and Star Trek 6), both have access to a library and make full use of it (Golden Oaks Library and the LCARS on the Enterprise), and both have a brother that was dropped on us at the last second because the writers needed a plot hook (A Canterlot Wedding and Star Trek 5 again). It's no wonder so many pieces of crossover art cast Twilight as Spock.
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Not me, if I were to cast a pony as Spock, it'd be Pinkie...simply because Pinkie is the least likely candidate to be Spock.
Anyway, now that you mention it, I think you're right, I think Twilight would appreciate TMP greatly, or at least more than I can. I mean, don't get me wrong, it was a good idea, and they put a lot of effort into trying to make it work, but it just...doesn't quite come together for me, AND the plot for that movie probably should've stayed as the TV episode it was originally created as, not stretched out into a full-length movie it never had enough content for in the first place. That and I thought the acting was rather wooden in that movie, but other than that, that's really the only things holding that movie back. Were it not for that, that movie probably would've rocked a whole lot more than it did. I mean, the special effects alone are awesome, even by today's standards IMO (unfortunately, special effects alone a good movie do not make).
My personal favorite movie is, obviously, Wrath of Khan, hence the pic.
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Pinkie as Spock? I dunno . . . she does have her own brand of logic, so it might work. 
I see what you mean about TMP. Personally, the reason I like it so much is that it's nice and slow, something I can sit back and appreciate. I liken the difference between TMP and the rest as the difference between fine wine and beer: the first is meant to be savored and sipped slowly, taking everything in at once, while the others are designed to excite and take you on a ride. TMP is sort of like a painting you can just watch and admire without the need for worrying about paying attention to what's going on. The drydock scene and the voyage into V'ger, which a lot of fans disparage because of their slowness, are two of my favorite scenes because I can just sit back and appreciate the beauty of the new Enterprise and the awe and terror-inspiring nature of the alien spacecraft. In my opinion, the Refit Enterprise is one of the most beautiful spacecraft ever to grace the silver screen with its gorgeous pearlescent finish and graceful-yet-functional lines, while the V'Ger probe is an interesting contrast to Federation design ethos with it's organic and unsettling features. The music in both scenes is equally amazing, with the anticipatory feeling of the drydock music and the uncertainty carried over in the V'Ger flyby music. The movie could have been compressed, but I feel like it would miss part of the epic grandeur if they did. TMP feels big to me because it takes its time and lets you savor every aspect of the film. But as I said, I can understand why people don't like it much. It's one of those niche films that appeals to a certain, limited demographic, sort of like 2001.
Yeah, I do love TWoK.
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I'm kind of funny that way. I'd cast Pinkie as Spock simply because she wouldn't fit. I guess I don't look at that as seriously as you do. On the other hoof, RD's got leadership traits undeniably, but for some reason I can only see Twi as Kirk. Meh.
You're absolutely right about TMP's epic feel, and that's definitely one thing they did right. In fact, there were a lot of things that were right about the movie...they just aren't...gone about the right way. Your two favorite scenes for instance. They are indeed excellent scenes, for exactly the same reasons you mention, and are more than deserving of your praise...but while they are still good, they're too much. Y'know, "too much of a good thing" sort of thing? They're dragged out excessively long, more than is really needed, and while there are benefits to that for those scenes, it robs other benefits from other parts of the film.
Lemme put it another way. Y'see, I do a lot of writing, and know a lot about the dos and don'ts about it all, and one of the highest standing rules of any storytelling work, movies included, is that functionality comes before impact. Those lengthy scenes in TMP have plenty of impact...but they lack the functionality they need. It is my opinion you could have kept them far shorter and achieved the exact same thing with those scenes. Proof of this exists in Wrath of Khan; the scenes with Enterprise in drydock are mostly recycled from TMP, but are shortened significantly. And yet they still bear that awesome, mind-boggling, epicness you describe, or so I see it.
Still...that's just my opinion on the matter, and I'm actually kind of glad there is someone out there that can enjoy TMP for what it is anyway. Sometimes I do feel a little bad that I can't appreciate the film more than I what I do already.
Now, as for Wrath of Khan...I'd be lying if I didn't consider that film the holy grail of Star Trek.
It's the ending that really gets me, though. It's just so stunningly and beautiful ending. It was the sort of ending that was the perfect place to pave the way for more movies (as did happen in the end), but at the same time, it would have also been the perfect place to end it all (like it was originally planned, coincidentally enough) had that happened as well.
Out of curiosity, what's your views of some of the other Trek films, including the later ones, like the Next Gen movies, and the Abrams reboot movie(s)?
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Too much of a good thing is a bad thing for sure. I suppose I'm addicted to starship porn is all.
TWoK is indeed perfect. The only thing that might be improved is a slight nit pick I have with physics: they show the Enterprise at a lower orbit in the tactical image with the Reliant in a higher one, closing in on the Enterprise. That would actually slow down the Reliant, thus causing the scene to inadvertently make no sense. But this is because I'm a science major and notice things like this. You should have seen me squeal when I saw relativistic equations in "It's About Time."
I really love that ending, too. "I feel young" is one of my favorite Star Trek lines, and I love how they mirrored it in Star Trek III.
I know I've said I don't appreciate the music of the others as much as I do TMP's score, but I still love TWoK and TSFS's scores as well. That music is adventurous and bold, much like the Star Trek TMP theme.
Regarding the other films, TSFS is I think the best of the odd-numbered Trek movies. It's got problems, but it was actually my first exposure to Star Trek so it holds a special place in my heart. I love Commander Kruge; he seemed like a real villain, someone who has motivation and three dimensions, and Christopher Lloyd has said this was his favorite role if I'm not mistaken. The introduction of the Bird of Prey and the Excelsior was great too, especially the way they introduced the BoP. It has real power and presence in that scene initially, which is carried over into the rest of the film.
The Voyage Home is a fun romp, though I do gag on the "save the whales" message a bit. It's far outshone by the great story and acting, and I love how Chekov is asking about "nuklear wessels" in the middle of the cold war.
The Final Frontier . . . what a downfall. There's hardly a single thing done right in it. The effects are terrible, the plot is ridiculous, and I mentioned that they dropped in Spock's brother out of nowhere. I can't watch that campfire scene with other people without feeling the need to say, "Star Trek is usually not this corny . . .". It really reeks of a Shatner ego trip. That being said, I do pop it in a watch it from time to time.
The Undiscovered Country was a great way to end the TMP-era films. Mystery, political intrigue, fascinating commentary on the cold war and racism, and a great message about the need for unity makes for a fantastic film. It's got a few problems, and I like to say it's the worst of the "good three" from the TMP-era, but it's still quite a spectacle. I really wish they had kept the idea to make Saavik the villain instead of Valeris. It would have given her some continuity.
Generations is not the worst film, but it's still average. I like it well enough because it's another of my childhood favorites, and I'll be honest, that crash landing is, guaranteed, one of the best special effects sequences ever created. Data's emotion chip drama was a bit overdone I thought, and being a science major I find it hard to stomach the fact that the probe was able to stop all fusion in the star yet it went out almost immediately (I could get into why, but suffice it to say it takes tens of thousands of years for energy in the center of a star to reach the surface). I feel like it was made as an excuse to get Picard and Kirk working together.
First Contact is my favorite of the TNG-era films, as you probably would agree. It's got everything: one of the sleekest starships in existence, a great villain, awesome action, and a fantastic ending with first contact established. The silliness with Zephrame Cochrane was a bit overdone I thought, but not by much. I do wonder how Deanna Troi could have never heard of Tequila, but seeing as how real alcohol is a bit of a rare thing in the Federation it's certainly possible. I love how they used an ICBM to usher in a new age for humanity. One thing that really bugs me though is Deanna outright lies to Cochrane about how poverty, disease and war will be gone. Tasha Yar was raised in poverty, many incurable diseases exist, and let's not forget the Dominion War. I realize that she needed to get him to agree to launch, but it's still a pet peeve of mine.
Nemesis was good for action fluff, but that's about it. The story makes absolutely no sense, for a very simple reason: Shinzon was tormented by the Romulans, so why attack the Federation? He was thinking pretty clearly for a dictatorial psychopath, so you'd think he would be focusing all his anger and hatred toward the people who saw fit to dispose of him and the forget he ever existed. A far better plot would have been if the Romulans had asked the Federation for help and the Enterprise-E came and saved the day, thus paving the way for a brighter future with the Romulans.
Star Trek '09 was a great film. They got the characters spot on, the new Enterprise, while not exactly a great design, has grown on me, the action had just the right level of tension, and they really explored the relationship between Kirk and Spock. I loved how Sarek finally admitted that he loved his wife. This is something that has bugged me for years: he's an unemotional Vulcan, so why does Amanda Gray love him so much? Love is reciprocal, and women need validation, which would be hard to get from a Vulcan. The only real problem I have with it is Kirk is made the Captain of the Enterprise far too quickly. Even if he did save the planet and the rest of the Federation from Nero, in the real Navy you'd still have to rise in rank, something he actually did in TOS according to several moments of reminiscing. He talked about his time as a lieutenant aboard the Republic and some time spent on the Farragut before being made captain, so I would have liked to have seen this being paid tribute to. Maybe they'll address it in Into Darkness.
BTW: you're a writer, eh? I've been writing a lot lately, a MLP/Star Wars crossover that I'm certain will eventually turn into a Star Trek crossover after I'm done with the Star Wars universe. You might want to take a look sometime: [link]
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Starship porn...that's a wonderfully graphic way of putting it.
About the orbits in TWOK...I had honestly never thought of that before, but you've got a good point. Huh. Still, though, I can't fault the movie for it.
Consequently, on a quick unrelated note, "It's About Time" is probably my favorite MLP episode to date, for the sheer fact that it's a time travel story, and I'm a total sucker for time travel stories.
TSFS is definitely a movie that deserves more respect that it sometimes gets. Until Star Trek XI, it was my third favorite Trek movie. The only thing I can really fault the movie for is that while the first half of it comes out strong, and the ending comes out excellent as well, the second half in-between for some reason always feels like it's, I dunno, sagging. It might be because that's where most of all the really depressing stuff takes place in the movie, like David's death, the destruction of the Enterprise, etc. But I can't really see them having done it very differently, so I guess it was unavoidable.
The Voyage Home's just fun. Nothing more, nothing less. There really isn't a better way to sum it up than that.
The only thing I can appreciate about The Final Frontier is it's humor, and that's because I tend to make corny jokes myself, so I can appreciate that corny humor. Other than that though, the movie is pretty forgettable, and the SF were atrocious.
And The Undiscovered Country...it was once my second favorite until the reboot too. The very serious plot was pulled off very well, and it connects TOS with TNG very well. It feels very smooth, polished...a lot of work went into that movie, and you have to appreciate it for that fact.
"Average" is a good way to describe Generations, and it's actually my favorite of the Next-Gen movies, much for the reasons you describe for TMP. It's a nice, relatively calm movie to sit back and reflect on while you watch. Except for the saucer section crash sequence, which was utterly epic.
First Contact is my second favorite Next-Gen movie, actually. It's not a bad movie, no, and it's got the Borg, who were certainly more than deserving of a chance on the big screen. But, as my Dad once put it not so long ago, you can't really get a feel for the danger. Somehow, no matter what situation the gang's all in, you just know it's all going to work out well in the end.
Also, since you brought it up, All of Troi's talk of the good of the future was supposedly what Roddenberry himself had always viewed as the future, and it's become Trek's unofficial creed ever since, so it's basically what Trek is SUPPOSED to be like, but no, they haven't always been too consistent about it.
From there it's just downhill for Next-Gen movies. I noticed you overlooked Insurrection, but that's probably a good thing, because it's been a long while since I watched that one. What I do remember, though is that I was unimpressed with it. The movie felt empty and dry, and at the time I watched it, the plot didn't make much sense. That might have changed since then, but then I'd have to find the courage to watch it again.
And Nemesis...ugh...that movie totally deserved to bomb in the box office like it did. I actually haven't watched it all the way straight through...but I don't need to. What I did see of it was more than enough to prove to me just how very...poor...that movie was, and yeah, the action's about the only good thing you can get out of it...except ninety percent of that action feels recycled from previous Trek productions. I spent the entirety of that final battle sequence (one part I did watch) pointing at each and every bit of it and going "oh, that's from Wrath of Khan...that's from Search for Spock...that's from Undiscovered Country...that's from Voyager's "Year of Hell"..." and so on.
And finally I encounter another Trekkie that can see Abram's reboot of Star Trek for the good that it is.
And yeah, it only struck me after the fact, but Kirk did ascend the ranks too quickly. But technically speaking, with Abrams having played the "alternate reality" card, they can kind of get away with that. 
I'm really excited for "Into Darkness," because it's already looking like it's showing lots of promise. I've even asked myself if this could possibly be the movie that trumps them all and becomes my new favorite, which sounds almost insulting to poor Wrath of Khan, and of course, it's still too soon to tell...but Star Trek XI came real close to doing it, more than any other movie before it, so if that trends continue with "Into Darkness"...I guess we'll see.
And yeah, I write. Link .
Admittedly, I'm not that much of a Star Wars fan, especially in recent years, and when it comes to MLP crossover stories...admittedly I haven't found that many that I've liked. Those that I have were more re-tellings with a pony cast than a crossover, or not serious at all, and I can only take so much of that.
The only exceptions to this that I can think of off hand, though, is a Gravity Falls/MLP crossover I read once that just clicked, and the whole Doctor Whooves fandom, which I am frequently blown away by just how well it fits into MLP and vice versa.
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Lol, I actually do kind of like TFF's humor. But things like "Marshmellons" and the campfire singing are kind of hard to watch with other people for me. Also, how the heck did Scotty run into that pole? I guess he got his peripheral vision drilled out of him at the Academy.
I forgot about Insurrection. I actually despise that movie, because Picard is fighting for the wrong side the whole time. Think about it: the Ba'ku have this life-extending miracle radiation that the Federation needs to study in order to benefit a galaxy of trillions and Picard is kludging it up because of a mere 600 people? I call bullcrap; he had a school-boy fascination with a girl and it clouded his better judgement. There was not going to be anything wrong with relocating those people so that they could continue their existence unawares, especially if the product was doubled lifespans and the true end of disease as we know it. If I found out someone did that in real life I would probably hunt them down and make them watch cancer victims suffer and die in treatment centers and ask him if it was worth it.
Either that, or make them watch an endless reel of Leonard Nimoy singing The Ballad of Bilbo Baggins, Clockwork Orange style.
Nostalgia Critic really hit the nail on the head in his reviews of the odd-numbered Star Trek movies (he avoids Nemesis though, because for some unfathomable reason he actually likes that one. Odd.).
I didn't need to see Kirk rise in rank, just have it be implied. At the end ceremony he gets promoted to full officer status, a brand new Lieutenant JG, with Pike telling him that the flagship will be his someday, then cut to him in the captain's chair of the Enterprise as her captain. It would have flowed well, and you could still show Spock off in the distance observing his old friend growing up.
I'm absolutely pumped about Into Darkness!
I'll have to check out those stories! The premises look interesting.
I agree about too many being re-tellings. Don't people have more imagination than that? Mine is basically "What if the Mane Six, Spike, and the princesses got accidentally dumped into the middle of the Galactic Civil War because of a mis-cast spell, and the Empire wants them for nefarious purposes?" It's pretty serious, with some light-hearted bits thrown in. I'm not the best writer; my talents lie in engineering. But I try to have a coherent plot and keep the characters consistent with how they act in their respective shows.
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I've wondered about Scotty and that pole myself, wondering if he had his attention focused on something else...but at the same time I have to admit that joke's probably my favorite of the whole movie.
Sounds like Insurrection's plot is just as convoluted as I remember. 
As for your proposal for the implied rise in ranks for Kirk in Abrams Trek, yeah I suppose they could have done that, but then it would've felt slightly forced, and could risk putting a damper on the moment (it would depend on how they pulled it off, it could go either way). I dunno. Oh well, there isn't really much point discussing it, seeing they didn't do it anyway, so...
Is that who the villain for Into Darkness is? Oh, yeah, yeah, I see it now! Ha! *slaps face* Can't believe I didn't put two with two there. Awesome.
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Perhaps.
It still bothers me though that a ship with 24 decks has an elevator shaft 72 decks tall.
Yeah, Insurrection's plot is a little convoluted, but the main problem is that the moral is crappy. If someone is white, then apparently they deserve their happiness while the rest of the galaxy dies? I just rewatched the Nostalgia Critic's review of it, and he really shows what's wrong with this movie. Mainly that in one episode when Picard was told to relocate a group of Indians he was perfectly fine with it and couldn't see why they didn't understand the reason they were being moved. Then when the exact same situation was happening to the Ba'ku he took the exact opposite position. Yeah, way to show "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few", Picard.
Hmm. I suppose. But you're right, there's no point in discussing it. The rest of the movie is awesome, so it doesn't really matter anyway.
Gary Mitchel is going to be an awesome villain! Remember that episode? I think I saw it a long time ago myself, but it's really cool if I recall correctly. Anyway, that starship crashing into San Francisco Bay will be spectacular, I'm sure. I'm also glad they're doing another one of those "submarine surfacing" shots with the Enterprise.
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You mean the scene of her rising over Titan? Yeah, that was a spectacular scene, probably the best one in the whole movie. I was ecstatic when I found an extremely high resolution pic of that scene that I used for a desktop for awhile sometime back.
And the starship crashing scene WILL be epic, not to mention unique, as Trek hasn't really done something quite like it in a long while, much less in a movie.
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Yep. The closest we really came to a water crashing scene was in ST4 with the Bird of Prey. It will surely be an edge-of-your-seat moment if the previous film's high points are anything to go by.
BTW, what do you think of the music for the AbramsVerse? That "Enterprising Young Men" piece is in my top five favorite Trek pieces.
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Both are very good tracks. "Enterprising Young Men" is indeed probably my favorite of the whole soundtrack (next to the opening montage of the film titled "Star Trek"), and "Labor of Love" for a long while would still get me "caught up in the moment," so to speak. Unfortunately, I've heard the track AND seen the movie enough times now that it's sadly lost it's impact.
The soundtrack on the whole, I must admit however, is not my MOST favorite the franchise has ever produced, but it's still about third or so.
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I know what you mean about music losing its impact. I try to keep that from happening by playing it on the piano. Somehow that really makes a difference in whether a piece of music keeps affecting me emotionally and having the same impact it did when I saw it in theaters. Here's one I arranged especially for myself because the sheet music I found for it just didn't sound like the music I know and love: [link]
Yeah, I hear you on the soundtrack. It's great, but it's not the best. In my opinion, that would be Star Trek The Motion Picture (how did you guess?
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Very nice! You're clearly a skilled player, more than I am. I was learning to play piano once, but eventually stopped, as I wouldn't take the time to practice.
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Thank you!
Lol, yeah you should have seen the fights I had with my mother about staying in piano lessons when I was a kid. I hated it, but kept at it. I'm glad now I did. I have been working on that TMP theme today, and it's an AWESOME arrangement! It sounds just like the movie soundtrack and was totally worth $5.25.
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so she was the true master mind behind khans plans. lol
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"Khan...I'm laughing at the superior intellect."
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"I mean, you've got a pony doing all your brainstorming! C'mon, get with the program here, man!"
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what something wrong with that.
by the way i have star trek micros too.
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Well, I have to admit that I would think less of Khan if he really associated himself with a pony. I mean, Khan and pony, pony and Khan...it's contradictory.
But not Twilight being a fan of the movie. That's a sign the world really can be perfect.
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O&G. That's awesome. I have a ton of old Micro Machines laying around somewhere. I't nice to know someone else out there remembers them.
Comment on the art: I might suggest making Twilight's outlines thicker. It's a personal habit of mine, but I think it makes the art look more solid and "there." The detail on the toys is great!
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Concurred on the outlines, they're much too thin. I realized this when I coloring it, as I was pulling the correct colors from a small archive of episode screenshots, but wasn't sure how to go about fixing it at the time. 
As for the toys, they're actually not the best Star Trek ships I've ever drawn. Used to be quite practiced at it, but looking at these, it's clear I've gotten out of practice.
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I have Micro Machine Excelsior, klingon D-7, and the old Enterprise in my hands right now. I did the same thing when I was younger. I also remember how the model for Picardβs Enterprise was so flimsy; the nacelles drooped off to the sides. Childhood memories come flooding back!
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Yeah, they aren't perfect models all right. I have a model of the Enterprise-C that isn't perfectly round; one side of it is flat, presumably it happened when the plastic was still warm from after being molded and brushed against something long enough to leave an indent.
But oh well, I personally never really cared that much, and occasionally used the little faults to my advantage in little pretend games. And often times the models ended up worse after I played with them a while than when they had come from out of the box. My model of the Reliant saw such heavy attention that it eventually lost both nacelles and it's roll bar, leaving just the saucer.
So I got another, intact, one.
Ah, good times. Too bad they stopped making them. I'd probably still buy them even now if they did.
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βAh, good times. Too bad they stopped making them. I'd probably still buy them even now if they did.β
I know I would.
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He tasks me....
He tasks me!
'Round the moons of Snivia, I chuckle at thee.
Beyond the Corpian clouds I chuckle more at thee.
Revenge is a dish best served with pinto beans and muffins!
Kirk, old friend, I...
Oh, sorry.
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Aw, I was ready to hear more.
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