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Description Yes, there will be much more to cover in my quest to tear the reboot era a new one, and give people an understanding as to why people like me found it so disappointing. 
What better way to do that then to show Archie's top ten reasons to get excited for the reboot list from their Super Digest magazines. 

Before I cover these, please don't get upset at what I cover here. If you enjoyed the reboot, more power to you. 
But just don't be a brat about my opinion here, and keep in mind that I was actually excited for this reboot when it first occurred in 2013 and gave it chance. Only to be turned off by it as soon as late 2014. 
So here's the rundown. 

10. Zones that we have seen before, and the Zones that were new had no creativity behind them. 

9. All the new characters that came off as complete rip offs of other characters (with a few exceptions) 

8. all those new villains that had potential that was completely squandered

7. The fact that Ian Flynn lied to us when he said "I will say the old universe still counts. We didn't make 200+ issues for nothing." 
(even though there were certain characters that actually remembered the stuff that caused the reboot) 

6. Sally getting completely dumbed down. (along with the other Satam characters) 

5. the fact that something as anticipated and simple as the Freedom Fighters reuniting was completely ruined by Amy getting retarded amounts of spotlight and unnecessary glorification. (or perhaps the more appropriate term is... Sue-ification) 

4. this was the only thing they promised that actually happened. 
Even though I feel Tracy Yardley's art style alone did a fine enough job at making them look more like game characters already.

3. All that stuff that was hyped up about this new craft, and yet it goes down without a fight.  

2. The fact that the best artists were shoved aside just because they couldn't draw faces that could become memes. 

1. The fact that Ian Flynn dragged out the shattered world crisis for two-in-a-half years straight. 
I don't think I have seen something like this happen in a comic since Spider-Man's clone saga. 

Update: as of typing this, part two has been posted here's the link. 
www.deviantart.com/shanahat/ar…
These comics are copyright    and Archie 
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ShanahaT In reply to ??? [2023-05-31 01:26:28 +0000 UTC]

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ScourgeFan119 In reply to ShanahaT [2023-05-31 01:33:11 +0000 UTC]

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ShanahaT In reply to ScourgeFan119 [2023-05-31 02:04:33 +0000 UTC]

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ScourgeFan119 In reply to ShanahaT [2023-05-31 02:07:51 +0000 UTC]

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FragGrrl [2020-09-27 07:51:38 +0000 UTC]

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hogues931 [2018-12-05 17:25:13 +0000 UTC]

some pretty good nitpicks 00000.1/10 pretty bad good job

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ShanahaT In reply to hogues931 [2018-12-05 18:37:33 +0000 UTC]

either improve your grammar you don't comment at all. 

How are these nitpicks? 
Something like "how did Batman get back into gotham when it was sealed off?" is a nitpick.  

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hogues931 In reply to ShanahaT [2018-12-05 18:50:54 +0000 UTC]

never saw Amy overshadowing sally you ignore most new characters Sally is actually quite competent here and most of the art doesn't suck most of the times in the sonic universe comic I could go on and on about why your wrong but that would regard me as a fanboy who is civil lol  [also I downloaded Grammarly to help]

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ShanahaT In reply to hogues931 [2018-12-05 18:52:02 +0000 UTC]

you clearly never read the reboot era of the comics. 

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hogues931 In reply to ShanahaT [2018-12-12 14:48:31 +0000 UTC]

your are hiding my comments they are not spam

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ShanahaT In reply to hogues931 [2018-12-13 18:39:43 +0000 UTC]

No I'm not.
I never hid your comments.

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hogues931 In reply to ShanahaT [2018-12-13 18:44:35 +0000 UTC]

hmm? who did last time i check they were there or did you flag them

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ShanahaT In reply to hogues931 [2018-12-13 18:45:50 +0000 UTC]

no, I'm telling you I never blocked your comments.

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hogues931 In reply to ShanahaT [2018-12-13 18:47:00 +0000 UTC]

who the fuck did then

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ShanahaT In reply to hogues931 [2018-12-13 18:49:16 +0000 UTC]

Not me that's for sure.

In fact you might be talking about a completely different deviation.

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hogues931 In reply to ShanahaT [2018-12-13 19:26:07 +0000 UTC]

the fuck some strange things shit is happening

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hogues931 In reply to ShanahaT [2018-12-05 18:53:19 +0000 UTC]

I actually have the spark of life arc hell everything

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Khai2000 [2018-09-28 02:54:25 +0000 UTC]

It is okay when I read the old one and the reboot one?

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ShanahaT In reply to Khai2000 [2018-09-28 10:25:34 +0000 UTC]

You can, if  want a good understanding why the Archie Sonic fans have been in such a sour mood these days. 
Plus, things did get a little better after the second Mega Man Crossover. 

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Nintrendodude [2018-09-19 05:33:50 +0000 UTC]

What ian flynn did to sally in the reboot in a nutshell: 

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Mixedfan8643 [2018-09-11 19:35:57 +0000 UTC]

Good spots overall I'd say. Very good summary.  

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ShanahaT In reply to Mixedfan8643 [2018-09-12 00:01:57 +0000 UTC]

Glad you like it. 

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Mixedfan8643 In reply to ShanahaT [2018-09-12 08:46:30 +0000 UTC]

Welcome. ^^

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MercenaryX [2018-08-30 14:05:39 +0000 UTC]

For me, I am not happy with what happened after the reboots, but then I think Archie was doing a better job then IDW is right now. And that is saying something since I live in San Diego where IDW is headquartered out of. And let me tell you, they suck.

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Theautisticonenamedm In reply to MercenaryX [2019-06-05 06:43:43 +0000 UTC]

At least that’s still better than Archie’s abortive Sonic Boom comic...

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MercenaryX In reply to Theautisticonenamedm [2019-06-06 06:42:10 +0000 UTC]

Not by much.

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ShanahaT In reply to MercenaryX [2018-08-30 14:11:45 +0000 UTC]

While I do think they can potentially improve. 
I also think the only way they can do that right now is cleaning house with the staff. 
Because their behavior toward the old fans is just atrocious right now. 
I personally think they need to get rid of David Mariote, Jon Gray, and Ian Flynn. 

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MercenaryX In reply to ShanahaT [2018-08-30 17:52:43 +0000 UTC]

Agreed.

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Theautisticonenamedm In reply to MercenaryX [2019-06-11 18:37:57 +0000 UTC]

And even THAT would likely be a double-edged sword, as we might end up with people like Pontaff or Bill Freiberger in their place.

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MercenaryX In reply to Theautisticonenamedm [2019-06-11 20:44:40 +0000 UTC]

Don't remind me and kill my hope.

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Theautisticonenamedm In reply to MercenaryX [2019-06-12 04:38:22 +0000 UTC]

Emphasis on the “might” part, though. We could get better staff, maybe.

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Darksider16 [2018-08-14 11:45:47 +0000 UTC]

I hope I'm not being disrespectful and that I understand and respect your argument here (this is actually way better and more researched than what some of the other guys were doing....) i want to say this as an even discussion.

I wouldn't really consider Phage being a rip-off of Nicole, (maybe more like Adam) maybe more of a personal rival than a rip-off. 

No disrespect, i personally don't consider that Shark dude being a rip-off to Geoffrey. 

As for the Sky patrol sinking?, I have been looking at the Archie Sonic wiki and I can't find it, You know like the Millennium Falcon has like an arsenal yet it has been known to malfunction.

P.S. isn't 10. comparing the master emerald pedestal to a Gia Temple?

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ShanahaT In reply to Darksider16 [2018-08-14 13:40:12 +0000 UTC]

1- perhaps she is more of a Adam ripoff, but at least Adam was able to accomplish things by taking over machines.
But personality wise, phage behaves more like an evil Nicole. 

2- I consider Razor a ripoff of Geoffrey in personality only. Plus they are both freelance mercenaries that serve a high power.

3- As far as the  Millennium Falcon is concerned, you're only thinking of Empire Strikes Back (the only time it was malfunctioning). 
In the first film we get a good sense of what it is capable of and see it in action, and in Return of The Jedi we REALLY see it kick some serious Empire ass (where Lando uses it to destroy the second Death Star).
The Sky Patrol was seriously teased to be this ultimate space station but we don't see it do anything, the fact that we don't see  it do anything in Panic in the Sky (were it gets shot down like nothing) is especially disappointing. 

4- I was actually trying to explain that the Stone Storm-Land zone was just the Mystic Ruins but with bad weather. 

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Darksider16 In reply to ShanahaT [2018-08-15 08:54:38 +0000 UTC]

1. The one thing i think Adam trumps phage is because he worked secretly against Eggman for his own ends and even created a body for himself with the use of the nanites.

2. I agree that he is a hybrid of villain and hero who serves a higher power. The thing i always thought regarding Geoff was that he acted like a patriot with overdosed patriotism in both ken and Ian's works, so i haven't really thought of him as a mercenary. 

3. Yeah, i'm in agreement with that about the Millennium Falcon. I checked the Sonic Wiki but it does not say anything regarding it sinking, so maybe i might need to look some more about that.
4. O ok thats fine then.

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ShanahaT In reply to Darksider16 [2018-08-17 19:22:23 +0000 UTC]

Sky patrol sinks in Panic in the Sky. 
The image was from issue 287. 

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Darksider16 In reply to ShanahaT [2018-08-20 11:28:03 +0000 UTC]

o ok, thank you very much for the clarification

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dth1971 In reply to ShanahaT [2018-08-14 19:37:17 +0000 UTC]

Aren't Rough and Tumble reboots of Geoffrey St. John in the IDW Sonic world?

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ShanahaT In reply to dth1971 [2018-08-14 21:49:12 +0000 UTC]

kind of, but I feel you seriously need to chill out at this point. 
You have been spamming the same stuff here over and over again. 
Take a break. 

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dth1971 In reply to ShanahaT [2018-08-14 22:05:31 +0000 UTC]

Okay, until your next Archie Sonic Reboot Fail journal...

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dth1971 [2018-08-13 12:19:03 +0000 UTC]

I enjoyed the 2013-2017 Archie Sonic reboot, more power to me even in the IDW Sonic era.

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dth1971 [2018-08-13 03:36:10 +0000 UTC]

When will part 2 of this topic be ready, ShanahaT?

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ShanahaT In reply to dth1971 [2018-08-13 04:11:29 +0000 UTC]

the mandates. 

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dth1971 In reply to ShanahaT [2018-08-13 11:55:27 +0000 UTC]

I didn't say what it will be about, I meant when part 2 of why Archie Sonic reboot failed will be ready.

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ShanahaT In reply to dth1971 [2018-08-15 02:37:26 +0000 UTC]

now.

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Micktrap397 [2018-08-13 00:43:34 +0000 UTC]

Well I disagree, it’s not way near as bad as the Pontac & graff era of the sonic games. This is probably the reason why meltingman234 still reads the comics before the cancellation. The sonic games had no character development.

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ComicMaxDA [2018-08-12 22:29:14 +0000 UTC]

Great post, ShanahaT, I agree with many of your points about the Archie Sonic reboot. I would like personally like to see more examples of Sally's newfound incompetence in this reboot, If you have some more.

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ShanahaT In reply to ComicMaxDA [2018-08-13 02:03:56 +0000 UTC]

It'll be my pleasure. 

265 - After Sonic turns back to normal, Sally says they should go back to sky patrol despite his condition. 

266 - The freedom fighters suspect that a chaos emerald in Eggman's territory is a trap, but Sally says they should go anyway. 

Spark of life - She and Nicole decide to just lock up Phage, despite that they could easily destroy her or try to reprogram her. 

284 - Sally some how  kicks herself in the head while fighting. 

Those are the others that come at the top of my head. 

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ComicMaxDA In reply to ShanahaT [2018-08-15 20:14:51 +0000 UTC]

Geesh, where was she when her brain was handed out?

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ShanahaT In reply to ComicMaxDA [2018-08-16 01:50:35 +0000 UTC]

the better question is, why did her brain leave during these moments to begin with? 

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ComicMaxDA In reply to ShanahaT [2018-08-16 19:52:25 +0000 UTC]

I don't know, also what's the worst issue of Post-Wave?

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