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I do, I'm proud of my Asperger's Syndrome.Apparently many are thinking that I'm using this in a way of saying "I'm special" and that I take advantage of the perks of having Aspergers. I am not. Just like you guys, I struggle too... Im saying this in a way of self-confidence, and being proud and finding the positive in having a disability that I given, and that which I can not change. I am not a boastful person, nor an attention seeker, as some of you would know, Im EXTREMELY self-conscious and much too low a self-esteem. I meant this as sort of 'Gay Pride' thing but only with Aspergers instead. I support Autism Awareness, Gay Pride, Aspergers... why cant you take pride in Autism... nothings wrong with you, that 'wrong stuff' is just people's opinions. They all have there ups and downs as well, but that's not 'wrong'.
I do hope that I took care of this issue... if not, then as my friend Ashley suggested, just to remove the ability to comment. I honestly dont want to do that, because I love to hear the comments about all the other proud Asperger's... it's just that, if this fighting does not stop, I will be forced to.
And thank you for defending me. I GREATLY appreciate it... And I must say, you guys seemed to go completely over your heads, probably a little too much, but, I appreciate it anyway.
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kharnthebetrayerplz In reply to ??? [2012-03-03 15:45:15 +0000 UTC]
I R SPESJUHL!!!1!1!!1!!!!!!!!oneoneone *slams my chest with my arm while grunting like a manatee*
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SHOrTwiRED In reply to ??? [2011-08-27 06:22:53 +0000 UTC]
Yes, it makes us unique, it makes us special in our own way.
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kharnthebetrayerplz In reply to KCStudiosCA [2012-03-04 13:05:23 +0000 UTC]
WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!1!111ARF ARF ARF!11!11!!!
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SHOrTwiRED In reply to KCStudiosCA [2011-08-26 23:00:59 +0000 UTC]
YAY! Hello fellow asperger!
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kharnthebetrayerplz In reply to jbird96 [2012-03-04 13:05:44 +0000 UTC]
ARFARFWRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!1!!1!!!!oneoneone
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SHOrTwiRED In reply to jbird96 [2011-08-26 22:05:43 +0000 UTC]
Very nice to meet another aspie!
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heavenly26 In reply to CalebKane [2011-08-27 03:15:09 +0000 UTC]
NO, your the one that is wrong, if myself or anybody who has aspergers didnt exist, the world wouldnt be the same, for example;
your phone, that was probably designed and created by an aspie, oh, and the computer your sitting infront-OH MY LORD! would it suprise you that it was probably made by an aspie...wow, and i bet you didnt even know that...you shouldnt take aspies for granted, because we create your electronic devices, write awesome books, and we have the same painting skills as Leonardo Davinci
Love from an aspergers teen
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CalebKane In reply to heavenly26 [2011-08-27 11:59:04 +0000 UTC]
Uhm, BULLSHIT.
Asperger's are mostly dysfunctional or fake, at least those i know.
You can claim stuff all you want, but that does not change reality.
No one should take pride(sic!!!!) in a mental illness, a malady.
Nothing would be different if Asperger dude&dudettes were missing, because progress itself is not a singular process in and of itself, the notion that a single person is special just because he/she is afflicted by a highly questionable mental illness ist just ridiculous.
"You" are neither a group, nor a faction, not even a kind of your own.
The world wouldn't be in any way different if Asperger's didn't exist.
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heavenly26 In reply to CalebKane [2011-08-27 13:51:07 +0000 UTC]
LOOK, if you have a fricken problem with me or anyone else that have these dissabilities, YOUR THE F#$KING WITH THE MENTAL ISSUE, look, i know that you have your own oppinions with things, but seriously, its not like its our fault we have it,
i take pride in my aspergers because it keeps me alive, i know that if i lived this life without it, i would have been dead by now, and not by accident. having aspergers makes me have a naive sense of heart, and makes me want to be the hero of my story, and one day save the world. but every day people bully me, they even abused me physically. people dont care about me, they would rather me just dissapear. thats why i take pride in my own aspergers, because it gives me hope, and without it, i would have dissapeared a long time ago...
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CalebKane In reply to heavenly26 [2011-08-27 14:09:34 +0000 UTC]
No, i'm having issues with people that DEFINE themselves over their diagnosis of a mental disease. That's all.
Oh, and btw: You do exactly what i would call "taunting others with your status".
From your deviant ID:
"i am what you would call 'not the average teenager'. At the age of seven i was diagnosed with an autism called Aspergers."
WTF cares?
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gatesofthewest In reply to heavenly26 [2011-08-27 06:11:19 +0000 UTC]
Neither the computer nor the phone were invented by people with Asperger's.
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heavenly26 In reply to gatesofthewest [2011-08-27 06:18:38 +0000 UTC]
=_= okay, let me show you some backround informaion, did you know that einstein may of had aspergers....all the rest of my information is in parts of the movie/documentry 'the sunshine boy' and it tells you, most phones and electrical devices were created by people with aspergers...
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CalebKane In reply to heavenly26 [2011-08-27 12:01:19 +0000 UTC]
Uhm, BULLSHIT.
That's highly questionable.
Asperger's might not even be a symptom, but a made-up condition to fake some of the "idiot savant" of true autism.
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CalebKane In reply to CalebKane [2011-08-27 12:16:19 +0000 UTC]
Einstein was a socialized dude, had a good sense of humour and did even debate&discuss with his colleagues. HECK, he did even engage in several relationships, and he even married a woman after 7(!) years of relationship, and to go even further in socializing, he even started a discussion group with some of his friends in Bern!
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gatesofthewest In reply to heavenly26 [2011-08-27 06:24:54 +0000 UTC]
It's unknown if Einstein had Asperger's or not, and we'll never know. I choose to believe he doesn't, but that's just my opinion.
I still doubt this information, nothing against people with Asperger's, I just believe that you are overstating their contributions just a tiny bit.
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heavenly26 In reply to gatesofthewest [2011-08-27 06:39:41 +0000 UTC]
look, i didnt mean to get off on the wrong foot either, but when people say something that is the slightest bit mean to someone that has autism or aspergers, i get upset about that, because i take pride in what i am, i dont care if i have social issues, from all the friends i have had they have all used me for my talents, and ignored me...and sometimes i cant control my anger, so what if i have destroyed a few walls already, maybe somebody would be able to listen to me for once...i dont care that im different, i just want to be myself, and have pride for who i really am
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CalebKane In reply to heavenly26 [2011-08-27 12:05:25 +0000 UTC]
You should be disciplined to not take pride in a flaw, a DEFECT. Because that's what you're doing, you're taunting and waving your Aspie status, and that alone deserves punishment and outlawing because you are trying to exploit people's tolerance. "Hey, look at me, i'm Aspie, and i am proud of it! Hey, look at me, i'm special! Hey, respect me for my 'specialness', even though i'm a defect&dysfunctional member of a society that i give a fuck about, because: I'M SPECIAL, DUH."
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heavenly26 In reply to CalebKane [2011-08-27 13:41:09 +0000 UTC]
heyhey! im not doin that! how do ya think i feel havin' only one friend...geez, i wasnt being all 'oh im so better than you', im just sayin', i like having aspergers because it makes me who i am. AND if ya have a problem with that, go whine about that to your family or your friends, i and im pretty sure the rest of my fellow aspies dont wanna listen to you whining, ranting and raving...
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CalebKane In reply to heavenly26 [2011-08-27 14:07:40 +0000 UTC]
No, of course you're NOT doing that:
"my name is heaven,
i am what you would call 'not the average teenager'. At the age of seven i was diagnosed with an autism called Aspergers."
Excerpt from your deviant ID...
OH THE FUCKING IRONY.
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heavenly26 In reply to CalebKane [2012-03-22 23:45:49 +0000 UTC]
arsehole, just because i like the way i live, and im proud of who i am, doesnt make me stupid, or anything. I tell people what i have to see if they would actually accept me for who i am. I dont care if you dislike me for having aspergers, you know, i sometimes hate myself because of it. If i didnt have it, i could probably be accpeted in society, i wouldnt have so much anger issues, and so much more negative things. But if i didnt have Aspergers, i wouldnt be me. 'I' would be nothing.
And now, i really dont care what others might think about me, its their own oppinion, i cant do anything to change that. But i will stand up for myself.
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3zirconium3 In reply to CalebKane [2011-08-27 12:20:23 +0000 UTC]
Wow, what is your problem? (You are practically getting to the point where you are just spamming.) "Outlawing", really? I don't recall whether you said you had it or not - if you do, I'm sorry you had a bad experience, and if you don't, you honestly shouldn't be commenting in the first place.
But people like us, who have been experienced so much heartache and confusion without even knowing why, why shouldn't we find relief in a diagnosis that explains huge chunks of our lives? And, in fact, if it is something we're going to be living with for the rest of our lives, why shouldn't we find positives, and acceptance in who we are? Obviously, there ARE disadvantages to having Asperger's, but, believe it or not, there CAN be advantages too, even if it is just having a unique perspective on the world. And it is VERY offensive to call us "defective" and "dysfunctional" - we are just as capable of being productive members of society as "neurotypicals". Why should we have to hide in shame?
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CalebKane In reply to 3zirconium3 [2011-08-27 12:33:23 +0000 UTC]
It's not about the relief, don't get me wrong.
I'm just SICK of people (pro)claiming publicly to have Asperger's and try to exploit that status and who try to ride the "i'm special!!!!" train.
It's not that you "have to hide in shame", it's just that some Asperger's aren't for real, and that many many many many Asperger's are trying to exploit their status.
THAT is the issue that bugs me.
And i know several Asperger's, trust me. They are not flaunting/taunting their status just to get attention or pity or to claim they're special.
I don't dislike Asperger's, don't get me wrong. I just dislike the notion to take pride in something that is not earned or achieved. It's the same with national pride bullshit. What's to be proud of incidentally being born US citizen, or German, or Russian? What's the use of saying "I'm being proud of being X" if X is just an incidental status that "fell from the sky" and wasn't even actively achieved or earned?
And i don't fucking care whether people might find that offensive, if i call people that taunt and try to exploit their Asperger's syndrome diagnosis status "defective" or "dysfunctional", because those people aren't seriously ill, and shouldn't be taken serious, otherwise they wouldn't shove their status in everyone's face.
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3zirconium3 In reply to CalebKane [2011-08-27 15:14:25 +0000 UTC]
Okay, that is reasonable - I don't like people who fake it either. I am not naive, I know that there are many people that do fake it, and that it is relatively easy to fake, especially when your are on the internet.
That being said, whenever someone on DA claims to have AS, I comb their page pretty thoroughly (profile, journal, deviations). And even though I am an Aspie, and even though it is just the internet, I have "DA stalked" enough people to get a sense of when someone is faking it. I have been "DA friends" with Shortwired for a year and a half, and I am friends with her on Facebook too, and I can tell you, with absolute certainty, that she is the real deal. (And I am almost never certain about anything, so that is saying something.)
I don't believe she is clamoring for attention or pity at all (in fact, she is quite shy). Her replies to the negative comments on this deviation are mature and reasonable - she is just explaining WHY she has the views that she does. She is not doing the whole "stfu troll!!!1!" thing. She is not comparing herself to anyone else or claiming to be superior because she has Asperger's. She hasn't been going around insulting people, and then saying "I can't help it, I have Asperger's" when they get mad. Believe me, I know the kinds of controversy and conflict Asperger's (real and fake) can cause on the internet, and Shortwired is a rare bird.
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CalebKane In reply to 3zirconium3 [2011-08-27 16:15:15 +0000 UTC]
Well, i got a completely different impression going from the picture and the sentence itself, because the declaration made is clear.
I'm going from what she writes in that picture, she says that she is proud of AS.
Going from the semantics of "be proud of sth." this leaves us with one of several uses given in a dictionary, but i don't see any appliable use here.
Would you mind to explain to me why people are "proud" of something they didn't achieve/earn themselves? Is it an "honor" to have AS? Is AS "majestic", so that it might cause pride? How can AS make people feel pleasurable satisfaction over the syndrome itself?
Sorry, i just don't get it.
Saying "I'm proud of being diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome" makes about as much sense (Read: Makes no f***ing sense whatsoever!) as saying "Hoorray, i'm proud of suffering from borderline personality disorder!"
I can understand saying "I have Asperger's, and i'm proudly trying to cope with it in a self-dignifying way." but i will never understand how one can say "I have Asperger's and i'm proud of it."
It just makes no sense.
But hey, maybe i'm missing something.
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AshyMashy In reply to CalebKane [2011-08-28 01:45:16 +0000 UTC]
K, first off everyone, just settle down please! This is a seriously stupid thing to get so worked up over!
Anyways, I just would like to say that a lot of this is just a huge, nasty, misunderstanding on both side's behalves. You're thinking one thing, while the other is thinking something entirely different, and neither of you are going to get anywhere until both sides have been cleared up.
I understand what you're saying. You don't think it's right for when people in general (not just Aspies, and DEFINITELY not ALL of them!) wave around the fact that they have a disability as a "get off free" ticket to get out of things that would normally not be tolerated. I also get what you're saying with the whole pride-in-something-not-earned, but what you're interpreting out of Cassidy's message is something completely different than what she is meaning it to come across as.
I don't have aspergers myself, but I've been great friends with Cassidy for a while now, both on dA, and in real life. She is an amazing person, and like 3zirconium3 said, she really is pretty shy and has NEVER presented herself to be a victim in need of special attention or pity. All I'm saying is I think you're just overthinking the whole thing WAY too much. The message should be judged solely for it's Β intention; not what it may come across to you as. It may be portrayed to you in a way that I honestly would agree with and which really WOULD be considered unacceptable, but what she's truly meaning, is simply that instead of looking at having a disability as something negative, something to be ashamed of as a big portion of world would view it, she makes the most of it and sees the positive in it such as having an opportunity to be unique and just being able to view life from a different perspective.
What's so wrong with standing up for yourself? She's not intending to be a gloater and all up in your face; she's just saying she's grateful to be who she is and how she wouldn't want to be any different. Although she did use the word "pride" ("proud" whatever), she doesn't boastfully Β mean "PRIDE!" Pride has several definitions and there are different ways and specifications it can be used for. Go over the top and it becomes "full of yourself", but in her case, she is simply using "self-esteem" or "self-respect".
I don't mean to be rude or obnoxious, so sorry if I sound that way; I'm just trying to make peace amongst everyone and put a stop to people hurting/offending each other for such a superficial argument that we shouldn't let affect us or tear us down. If you still disagree, I mean you the upmost respect when I say just ignore it, get out of here, forget it, and don't let it bother you. Really, it's not worth it.
I don't want any crap from anyone, nor will I take it or let it bother me myself. No matter what you say or do, I will NEVER regret standing up for and defending my friends who haven't done anything wrong.
With that said; like before, sorry if I offended you, I promise I didn't mean it, and I hope I helped resolve this.
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CalebKane In reply to AshyMashy [2011-08-28 10:58:11 +0000 UTC]
Nice to see yourselves congrat each other over the matter, BUT:
I don't know Miss Shortwired IRL. I can't compare her picture to how she IS. I can only judge the picture by and of itself. Nothing more, nothing less.
And by that picture (and its semantic meaning) i go with my judgement.
"She's not intending to be a gloater and all up in your face; she's just saying she's grateful to be who she is and how she wouldn't want to be any different. Although she did use the word "pride" ("proud" whatever), she doesn't boastfully mean "PRIDE!" Pride has several definitions and there are different ways and specifications it can be used for. Go over the top and it becomes "full of yourself", but in her case, she is simply using "self-esteem" or "self-respect"."
Ok, stop now, for a moment, and think about what you've written there.
This is deviantart.com. Artists here showcase their art to expose(!) it, which itself can be taken as a way of boasting, of attention-seeking.
If she's not out for offending/taunting people she wouldn't have consciously used the term "pride" in that connotation. But she did, that's why we're arguing here, and she's not denying she did, does she?
Or did i miss that part?
If she doesn't want people to misinterpret her message, she should've used a more neutral term, not the most offensive term available in such a connotation.
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3zirconium3 In reply to AshyMashy [2011-08-28 02:59:31 +0000 UTC]
YES. You have hit the nail on the head about what I believe her message was supposed to be - I could not have said it better myself! (In fact, I wish I had come up with this...)
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AshyMashy In reply to 3zirconium3 [2011-08-28 03:07:01 +0000 UTC]
Thanks! I was just tired of the ridiculous arguing.
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3zirconium3 In reply to AshyMashy [2011-08-28 03:17:47 +0000 UTC]
You're welcome. Yeah, I HATE conflict myself, but when it involves one of my friends, I want to do what I can to help them.
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gatesofthewest In reply to heavenly26 [2011-08-27 06:46:06 +0000 UTC]
I wasn't trying to come off as mean, and I apologize if I was. I just wanted to state some facts and critique your argument.
I'm curious, are you professionally diagnosed? The only reason I ask is because a lot of people like to claim Asperger's now so they can act in a certain manner or appear 'different', which disgusts me. Anyone who would falsely claim a mental illness such as Autism or Schizophrenia (which is another popular one to falsely claim) is ignorant and disgusting.
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heavenly26 In reply to gatesofthewest [2011-08-27 06:50:58 +0000 UTC]
i was actually told that i may have an autism by about three or more people, first my grandma thought that i may of had it, then it took about half a year, and three people to diagnose me, until they finally came to conclusion that i actually had aspergers, im also not very amused by people who say that they have aspergers, like, if they want to be like lady gaga, go put on some crazy outfit, dont start saying you have aspergers, do you get what i mean???
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gatesofthewest In reply to heavenly26 [2011-08-27 06:55:05 +0000 UTC]
Exactly. A mental illness isn't like clothes you can throw on and off. It's something that's permanent.
I don't know if you know what they are, but I suffer from bad intrusive thoughts. I hate people who claim to have diseases with those as a symptom. You won't believe how hard it is for me to function normally sometimes, and to have people think that it's 'cool'? Give me a break.
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heavenly26 In reply to gatesofthewest [2011-08-27 07:19:06 +0000 UTC]
to tell you the truth, i do understand how you feel, i may not have the same things as you, but there are still things that i find are not enjoyable. like, my anger issues, i do have thoughts that go into my mind that make me have a second thought about life...and people have no right to think that its 'cool', they have no idea how we are feeling on the inside...but weirdly, thats what i live on every day, every time i think about people ignoring us, abusing us, bullying us or even just saying that we are different, it makes me want to change the world in a way where kids and adults with these problems, can just be accepted...i know i probably sound stupid when i say that =_=
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gatesofthewest In reply to heavenly26 [2011-08-27 07:22:46 +0000 UTC]
I don't know what it's like to be bullied, because I have a personal psychological problem. An intrusive thought is a thought that you didn't consciously think, and it just kind of pops into your head. It makes it difficult for me to concentrate and socialize sometimes, but it's not something you could pick up just by looking at me.
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SHOrTwiRED In reply to CalebKane [2011-08-26 21:55:14 +0000 UTC]
Well, you can have your opinion. I'll keep mine, that I have pride in my aspergers.
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Kellycutie1122 In reply to CalebKane [2011-08-27 02:41:01 +0000 UTC]
ur a weirdie i think it is awesome that she has aspie so u need to go to a mental hopital because i think you have OCD
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kharnthebetrayerplz In reply to Kellycutie1122 [2012-02-22 01:32:18 +0000 UTC]
Hell yeah, that's so true!1!!!oneoneoneelevenecksdeeXDoneeleven!1! I'm so proud of having ASSBURGERS!!!
Seriously, what they fuck...?!
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kharnthebetrayerplz In reply to Kellycutie1122 [2012-02-23 10:42:41 +0000 UTC]
I sure hope you were capable enough to read the whole message or did your Assburgers manage to fuck it up completely by not getting that I despise that burden?
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Kellycutie1122 In reply to kharnthebetrayerplz [2012-02-24 18:37:46 +0000 UTC]
i have no assburgers but i still think its epic. :3
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kharnthebetrayerplz In reply to Kellycutie1122 [2012-03-03 15:47:47 +0000 UTC]
Got no answers, huh? Well, I guess I won this conversation, then, and Assburgers will remain a curse and nothing to find cool at all.
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kharnthebetrayerplz In reply to Kellycutie1122 [2012-02-25 14:53:40 +0000 UTC]
What makes Assburgers so "epic" if I may ask?
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CalebKane In reply to Kellycutie1122 [2011-08-27 12:18:22 +0000 UTC]
What is "awesome" about having a mental illness?
Are you just insane or not knowing what you are the fuck talking about?
WTF.
"Hey, i'm a lunatic, and i'm proud of not being mentally sane. Yay!"
W.T.F.!
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Kellycutie1122 In reply to CalebKane [2011-08-28 16:51:17 +0000 UTC]
oh i'm sorry u are proud of being sane BYE
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