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Updated reference here!www.deviantart.com/spookapi/ar…
these guys are now SharkScales
Okay so uh
recently I've gotten this idea for my own fan continent based on WoF from the idea of some tribes that are wingless. And suddenly from that small thought, I elaborated into 5 separate tribes that I think are cool enough to put on here. Starting with SirenScales. (all dragons on this island are ‘Scales' instead of 'Wings’)
SirenScales are historically the big bullies of the continent of Chimarra. They're one of the two larger tribes (both in size & population) and they inhabit all the coast around the continent, making it nearly impossible for any other tribe to ever leave the island - especially since they don't have any wings (except for one tribe but I'll get to that later).
SirenScales will eat anything that's meat, including other dragons. In fact, certain pods will specifically try to prey on another tribe, which can very quickly get out of hand. They nearly drove ShoreScales to extinction, not only due to preying on them, but also by taking over all their territories.
SirenScales are relentless to put it simply, and they have a pretty huge population to spread around the entire continent (though Chimarra isn't the largest continent). They don't have any orderly kind of social structure or government, and the most they have is certain large pods having an Alpha Queen or (less commonly) King. Despite being separated into different pods, that can be completely distanced from each other, SirenScales generally get along with other SirenScales. Though, hostile pods and ones that cannibalize on other SirenScales can rarely happen, but those pods tend to get killed off by the bigger ones before they cause too much trouble.
In the past SirenScales have actually pushed more onto land, and even raided into freshwater systems, but they've since been pushed back by the other largest tribe in Chimarra.
SirenScales have a complex system of communicating underwater through humming or clicking noises. Thanks to their wide range of vocal ability they are also able to mimic other dragons or animal noises. Usually SirenScales don't actually learn how to speak in the dryland dragon’s language at all unless they're higher up in a larger pod or something. Most
of the time when they try to speak, their sentences are somewhat jumbled or broken, unless they had grown up hearing it or something.
One hunting tactic of SirenScales is to lure their prey with a sound that attracts them, once again often picking on ShoreScales - who also use certain sounds to communicate.
SirenScale names (after translating it from their language) are most often things like ‘SharkEater', ‘BloodWater’ or ‘ShellBite'
The names don’t usually make complete sense, but they sound kind of intimidating?
SirenScales hate excessive heat, like harsh sunlight or fire. Their fins burn and dry up easily too, so whenever SirenScales move onto land it’s usually in the night.
SirenScales aren't quite as effective on land, but they can be surprisingly fast as long as they don't trip over their own fins. They have no climbing skill whatsoever, though.
Also forgot to put on this ref that SirenScales can see in the dark and also have really sharp hearing as well.
They're also probably the least advanced tribe overall. They really have a reputation for being mindless, emotionless predators, but they're pretty clever and form strong loyalties with other SirenScales.
Rarely SirenScales can have a mutation that gives them stinging tendrils like a jellyfish off of their tail fins and sometimes head fins. The stinging actually isn't that effective for thick-scaly things like dragons (unless used on the face or something) - but it's darn good for stunning other prey and schools of fish.
(If I make these guys a species or something, they'll probably be open along with the other 4 tribes? I’m planning to draw and upload ref concepts for the other 4 too, since my brain is just way too excited with this idea right now)
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DigitalArtIsHard In reply to ??? [2021-11-28 07:43:32 +0000 UTC]
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OMGReallyAPotato [2020-05-07 17:05:56 +0000 UTC]
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LAVxNDxR1CLOUDDI2 [2019-11-02 19:36:43 +0000 UTC]
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Blizzardstorms [2019-10-17 21:47:52 +0000 UTC]
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Spookapi In reply to Blizzardstorms [2019-10-18 03:28:17 +0000 UTC]
SirenScales were my original concept, but I since changed them to SharkScales! So they're sorta the same thing, but now called SharkScales with design differences and stuff.
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gecko-waffle [2019-10-06 03:32:17 +0000 UTC]
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Crimson-Wolf2323 [2019-08-17 07:50:55 +0000 UTC]
WOah please do let me know if I can make one some day cuz these bois are cool ^^
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phantomnationdraws [2019-07-20 18:17:59 +0000 UTC]
oh man oh man i just saw this and i love them can i make one?
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ScourgeBloodCat12 [2019-06-14 02:27:25 +0000 UTC]
Bad killer dergs ( I really wanna make one but at the same time I don't xdddd)
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k-r-y-s-i-s [2019-05-11 09:02:15 +0000 UTC]
I lOve them! Are they an open fantribe? If they are i would love to make one
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pharodragon [2018-12-20 03:53:09 +0000 UTC]
can I make a soarscale sirenscale hybrid plzzzzzz ? l-l
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Vaizelli [2018-12-16 16:03:50 +0000 UTC]
I love these so much?? aa oh my lord they're all perfect
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ThistleTheRainwing [2018-12-16 02:54:23 +0000 UTC]
are they an open tribe? Can anyone make one?
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Spookapi In reply to ThistleTheRainwing [2018-12-16 04:43:25 +0000 UTC]
Yep, They're open! Please check out the Chimarra group first though!
Group here: www.deviantart.com/wof-chimarr…
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Zoomerdino1 [2018-11-13 23:13:18 +0000 UTC]
How do you make your lineart? Do use use a watercolor brush toned down, or a diffrent brush altogether? BTW, I love these fantribes!
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Spookapi In reply to Zoomerdino1 [2018-11-15 16:44:46 +0000 UTC]
On Krita I use a pretty normal, circle ink brush with the size pen settings off (and the opacity pen settings on).
I do all the lines in a color that will go with the layer below it, and set the line art layer to multiply. All the outer edge lines (like all around the figure) I make black or very dark.
thats what I do personally, hopefully that made sense ^^’
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Zoomerdino1 In reply to Spookapi [2018-11-15 21:51:19 +0000 UTC]
that makes sence, but i use firealpaca. I hate how firealpaca drawings always blur. By the way, does krita cost money to use?
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Spookapi In reply to Zoomerdino1 [2018-11-16 01:05:10 +0000 UTC]
Actually, Krita is free.
also I wonder why the images blur? Maybe try saving them as a png instead of a jpeg (if they are being saved as jpegs that is)? That would be my first guess on why it'd be blurry.
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Zoomerdino1 In reply to Spookapi [2018-11-16 01:35:13 +0000 UTC]
hmm ill try png. also,thanks for telling me its free (krita). Thank you for responding to my question, you must get so many a day because of your amazing talent for drawing!
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UnknownAvocado [2018-10-28 01:43:27 +0000 UTC]
Ack how much would one of these lovely bois be?:0
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tuxeon [2018-10-25 00:02:21 +0000 UTC]
Omgggg I am so in love with these! I will certainly make one of I can!
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AprilSilverWolf [2018-10-17 02:43:47 +0000 UTC]
These sound (and look) extremely similar to my Sirenwings. The flared tail, the wings attached to the foreclaws instead of the back, the fact that they communicate using clicks, the fact that they have little organization, are cannibals, have strong vocal cords, had a war with shorewings (seawings) Are considered the bullies (savages in ny case) og their Continent, are spread throughout the whole Continent. Only a couple things are missing, like nobles and the fact that mine no longer have gills thus dooming them to shallow water
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AprilSilverWolf In reply to AprilSilverWolf [2018-10-17 02:46:30 +0000 UTC]
And Even luring dragons into the Water
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Spookapi In reply to AprilSilverWolf [2018-10-17 03:39:02 +0000 UTC]
So before I actually uploaded this, I looked up SirenWings and briefly looked at a tribe with that name (wasn't yours), just to see if I had too many similarities or something. Honestly, I have no idea how I didn't see yours - or remember them because now that I'm actually looking at your SirenWings, I know I've seen them before. Honestly, if I had seen the similarities with your tribe beforehand, I would have definitely rethought all this stuff before uploading and I'm really sorry, I genuinely wasn't trying to copy you or anything.
I came up with these second to last out of my continent tribe ideas, and when I was trying to come up with sea tribe name, I came up with SirenScales, because Siren sounds cool. And then going from Siren lore, I made up a tribe of bloodthirsty, luring cannibals - which I'm assuming is how you came up with your SirenWings as well, correct me if I'm wrong.
I'll admit now that I'm looking at your SirenWings, the designs are definitely similar to each other, and I'm sorry about that. Once again I swear it wasn't intentional by me, and honestly I might change the SirenScale's design a bit if you'd like me too? And while I'd rather not change the name, I could change it to SharkScales or something. Really I would just like to avoid conflict or drama over this, it's my mistake.
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AprilSilverWolf In reply to Spookapi [2018-10-17 04:32:40 +0000 UTC]
I'm assuming you probably wouldn't want their culture to be so similar either. So far the only differences I'm seeing is the fact that they have a beak, they have strings/flaps to make music on their horns, and they can scream/make underwater explosions like the pistol shrimp.
www.deviantart.com/aprilsilver…
I like the jellyfish stringer idea of yours, it'd be cool to see that developed a bit more.
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Spookapi In reply to AprilSilverWolf [2018-10-17 21:25:13 +0000 UTC]
Sorry I wasn't able to respond to this till now, but I've been thinking about the differences I could make in the design and culture stuff that hopefully will help set them apart more?
Design-wise I was thinking I could remove or change the head fins or frills and I can also change how the tail fin looks, so that isn't as similar. Honestly I'd like to keep the arm fins, since I think they're different enough and don't really look like the wings on your SirenWings? I'll try to make the arm fins a bit smaller though. Other than those things I don't think there was anything else in the design that's too similar.
I feel like the cultures of these two tribes aren't too similar? Of course they're both pretty bloodlusty and cannibalistic, but it feels like your SirenWings are definitely more festival and music oriented than my SirenScales if that makes sense? (Admittedly I've only skimmed through the information you linked, but it seems to me that my SirenScales are a bit more chaotic and disorganized than your SirenWings) You also have a lot of lore with Animus' and curses, from what I can tell - Which SirenScales have no interactions with.
Anyway, I'll admit I find it a bit difficult to change too much if how my SirenScale culture is, because a lot of the events and history of the continent include SirenScales terrorizing other tribes. I'm willing to change SirenScales from luring other dragons, since that isn't as important and moreso just fits their name. I'd probably change them to SharkScales if I did that, which I wouldn't mind too much. I'd still want to keep them using sounds to communicate underwater though, since that just makes sense when they have no other way to do so.
Another similarity I notice is the loyalty thing, I'm not sure how much I'd want to change that though, since I think it makes sense for my SirenScales to be pretty loyal to their pods at least - but I will say SirenScales don't tend to have super harsh punishments for disloyal ones, it's just looked down on by practically all SirenScales.
Also I want to correct you a bit on something earlier, you said SirenScales have a war with ShoreScales (which is like your SirenWings with SeaWings) but it isn't a war at all, it's really just SirenScales preying on a tribe that can barely fight back. It's more like predator and prey, if anything.
I could explore the stinger idea more as a consistent trait in the tribe, but I think I'd like to keep that as a more occasional or rare mutation that can occur.
Let me know if you think the changes I made here are enough to help set the tribes apart or if there's another thing you think I'd be able to change.
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AprilSilverWolf In reply to Spookapi [2018-10-17 21:48:39 +0000 UTC]
Thank you, I think those changes sound good to me, and your right I guess the war with the seawings was more about land than about predator and prey.
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Spookapi In reply to AprilSilverWolf [2018-10-17 22:08:59 +0000 UTC]
Alright! I'm glad we could work this out, honestly if I had found your SirenWings on my own after uploading this I would have probably felt even worse about all the similarities that I accidentally made, and I really don't blame you for confronting me about it.
If you don't mind I'll probably have an updated ref for these either after the SlimeScales one or the ShoreScales, so it might be a few days. I don't think that will be too much of a problem though?
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AprilSilverWolf In reply to Spookapi [2018-10-17 22:17:48 +0000 UTC]
No that's fine, there's no rush
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AprilSilverWolf In reply to Spookapi [2018-10-17 04:19:55 +0000 UTC]
Makes sense. You're a really creative person, I don't think you would ever intentionally copy someone, you wouldn't need to. The name is fine, there's lots of Sirenwing fantribes out there, just never had any issues because aside from being like sirens and having a trance like voice and living in the water they had many more differences. It was just strange how many identical similarities there are between yours and mine. I wouldn't make drama, I'm a civilized person and fantribes aren't the end of the world, it's not like your taking my livelihood hood or anything. I'm just a little disappointed that mine have almost no unique traits anymore. There's almost no reason why people who would have your Sirenscale to also get one of my Sirenwings. I would prefer it if there was something about their cultures that separated them from each other, even if their behaviours are similar, but I'm not very creative with that.
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Dragontooth150 [2018-10-17 01:20:37 +0000 UTC]
omg yes please open species
pity us poor souls with no money
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EpsilonContinuity [2018-10-15 19:28:35 +0000 UTC]
Holy hell, I already enjoy your WoF designs but boy howdy do I love seeing new tribes! The concept of a continent of wingless dragons sounds incredible too, can't wait to see the rest
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Roguein [2018-10-13 17:55:14 +0000 UTC]
i....LOVE THESEEEEEEE
theyre fuckin amazing holyy....look at those handsome teethy lads
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KenyaJoy In reply to ??? [2018-10-13 13:07:11 +0000 UTC]
GOSH YOU DA BEST AT DESIGNING THINGIES WHAT
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WoolyLlama [2018-10-13 04:21:59 +0000 UTC]
THIS IS AMAZING I LITERALLY WATCHED YOU JUST BECAUSE OF THIS!!
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entangled-life In reply to WoolyLlama [2018-10-13 16:33:03 +0000 UTC]
oooo i love these guys :0
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