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Art trade with . Her character, Piirissaar (an Estonian island ~ Eeee
)~ I'm pretty late, sorry. 
I... Didn't know what title I should give this, so I went with the number of flowers. When you give flowers to people in Estonia, the numbers of flowers should be odd numbered. Even numbered amount are for the dead.
On another note, I discovered that I can't draw backgrounds anymore. orz
Piirissaar OC © BakaSui
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Wow! Your art is always such a joy and beauty to look at and this one is no exception!
Also the facts you bring up in them are a fun and interesting read too!
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Thank you very much ~ >u> Your comments always make me really happy!
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ahsjsvajah--
she looks like anastasia's little sister.
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... HIIUMAA'S GOT AN AUNTIE, NOW. /shot
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Really?! Fun! XDD The happy family is getting bigger ~ Hiiumaa expects gifts for Christmas. She's the "baby", after all!
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Yep! All we need is Aunt Katie and then we're complete. XDD Aunt Sara is really fun so she probably spoils her, much to her husband (Latvia's) chagrin. XDD
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Ooh, how does aunt Katie look like?
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Brown hair, freckles, hazel eyes.
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senpaiiii, you're amazing!
I really love the coloring style and expression ~
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Thank you very much!
eeek I've got a kouhai -dream come true- ;w;
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can I add you to my senpai list? :3
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I'd be honored to be in your list...!
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sadsaadfghjb -finally has a kouhai- yay ~
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Aww this is beautiful! And I learned something! The fact about the flowers is really interesting o:
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Thank you!
Yeah, and it is useful because Estonians seem to love giving flowers for any occasion. Visiting someone's home? Bring some flowers as gift. Birthday? Have some flowers! Graduation? Flowers! Wedding? Flowers to both the bride and groom! XDD
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Ooh, she is beautiful! 
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Ooh, she is beautiful!
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Yes, she's pretty ~
Thank you! XD This is the first time I got happy with the hair, actually. DX Blonde hair is so tricky to colour...!
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Her hair looks great!
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AAAAHHHHHHHH IT'S PERFECT P E R F E C T peeeeeerrrfeccttttttttt I love you for this
you even found this awesome fact about flowers aaahhhh why do you keep saying things about Estonia that I don't knoww
oh and her eyes are blue actually ((she is typical Estonian beauty haha u know)
but really it doesn't matter , I love this picture soooo much
what can I say more.. her pigtails look so right really even I can't draw them so correctly
i haven't replied to your note yet.. I'm still writing it (half of it is written
ILU
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Yay! 
I didn't know it wasn't a well known fact. DX'' Maybe my sources are outdated... orz Please buy and translate more Estonian books and books about Estonia, Sweden...!
Fixed!
Haha XD Sorry about the lenght of that note - it was actually longer (!!), but I changed it in the last second to make it shorter. Found out that everything I write can actually be half as short and still have the same contents. 
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yuuss 
I didn't know it, really. Maybe I have heard it, but didn't remember.. idk. I think your info isn't outdated, it can be some kind of old custom and I am very happy that I now know it
oh she looks more like my Piirissaar now! (but brown eyes looked good too tbh).. I thought of it and Piirissaar really looks like Hiiumaa's and Saaremaa's sister
noo the lenght isn't a problem, I can reply shortly.. It's just about time and language .. I hope you don't think I am rude orsth
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Oh, I'm glad ~
Really? XD Well, Hiiumaa would love a sister, so yay! But both Saaremaa and Hiiumaa are the worst at Russian... D: Saaremaa can say the most basic things, but Hiiumaa only knows "hello" and "Good bye", which is probably fail seeing that they've been under Russian rule for almost 3 centuries (to be fair, Russia never talked to Hiiumaa or cared about her. Saaremaa had a lil bit more contact with Russia, but still not much).
Oh, no, it's alright.
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I can't get over it - I still love just to stare at this pic
yup, they all are blondes although Piirissaar's hair are a bit darker and they are all islands
it's kinda logical that their Russian isn't good, thay almost never had a connection with Russia. But yeh piirissaar is half Russian herself: her mother was a russian beauty ((haha) The first permanent residents on Piirissaar were Russians. Mainly old believers and soldiers who didn't wanted to go to army hehe
yaayyy
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Yay ~ !
Naw, it's just that Saaremaa already has the big-sister role for the HetaEst characters (Muhu may or may not be her biological sibling), so having another little sibling isn't really anything new for her. She'd be more excited for an older sibling. XD Hiiumaa's an only child as far as everyone knows, so it's more fun for her.
Piirissaar is really unique amongst Estonian islands! XD She has Russian roots instead of Swedish, and isn't she the only Estonian island in Lake Peipus? She's pretty far away from the rest of the islands!
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Ah I see! How old is Saaremaa exactly?
Aww Hiiu is so cute little fella 
She is unique! A lonely island in big lake Peipus, far away from her loved ones
haha no I think she's happy with her awesome location.
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She is about 3 years older than dirt. XDDD -shot- Kiddin', kiddin'. Her real age is unknown, but she's older than 1400 years, that's for sure - from what I can find, the earliest time she was mentioned historically was in the 7th century when she got into a fight with Sweden (she won. Killed Sweden's king and kicked him out of her island.)). Physically, she's 25-26.
Aww... How sweet. XD But gosh, now Hiiumaa's probably going to introduce herself as her sister's boyfriend and weird everyone out (and this time it's not entirely a lie...!)...
Yay ~
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haha true! let's see -takes out the calculator- Piirissaar is about 645 years old, starting from the point she was mentioned .. so she's younger indeed.. Their physical ages are actually logical too.. a bit. Piiri is 7 years younger than Saaremaa..
Oh wow Saaremaa is so badass so cool
hahaha that'd be funny!!
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Oh, wow! Piirissaar is older than I thought! o.o Wow what a polite thing to say I thought she'd only be around 400-500!
Oh, Saaremaa was so much trouble (Still is, but mostly only to Tallinn.)! Attacking Denmark, kidnapping Norway's prince and queen, stealing Sweden's front doors (yes, she stole his front doors.) and burning his house to the ground... Denmark and Sweden were so sick of her... XD Especially poor Sweden - that battle in the 7th century wasn't the only time she killed Sweden's kings.
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hehe old hag (but not as old as Saaremaa (they can both be grannies))
wow i can't get over, she's awsum! Like wat - stealing front doors! I imagine she has a big heap of doors in her backyard.
It should be an episode in Hetalia
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Baww, she's still younger than some others! Out of the islands, I think Muhu and Hiiumaa are older. And the oldest cities are older too. So Piirissaar is still young and hip! XD
Saaremaa's history is definitely awesome! XD Other people got attacked by the Nordic vikings - the Nordic vikings got attacked by Saaremaa. Haha!
I wish Himaruya would cover more moments in Estonian history as well... >n>
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haha that's right! tartu is one of the eldest there
it makes a great picture - a whole gang of vikings and slim and delicate Saaremaa standing against them..
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Yeah. XD Tartu's the oldest city (and 2nd oldest overall, I think - I can't find anyone else who is older than him other than Saaremaa)! Ah, well. He may be as old as fart, but he's still young and youthful at heart (that rhymed).
It wasn't always fighting against them though - sometimes, she joined them in their fights against others/eachother (she and some others joined Sweden during one of his wars against Denmark (who had Livonia and other people fighting by his side), for example. Sweden, Saaremaa and co. won that war, btw. Yay!). XD Oh, those were the good, ol', wild days...
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you know, why he is so youthful? That's because very big part of the old part of Tartu is destroyed and modern architecture slowly infiltrates in -sobs wildly-
You should write a poem about Tartu! (I know that you said that you don't understand poetry but...)
oh and now Saaremaa probably watches her old group photos of herself and the vikings standing together and on the background is burning city or sth (ah I'm sorry your discriptions give me so great picture ideas
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Oh, yeah, that was an awful period. D: He almost died...
You mean write a poem about the destruction of Tartu? I've been beaten to the punch, unfortunately. By 300 years. XD Some guy named Käsu Hans (in the 18th century) wrote a poem about the destruction of Tartu (from Tartu's point of view, no less!). Also mentioned that the people of Tartu were arrogant and lived a sinful life, and so the destruction was a punishment from God and warns that the other big cities (Tallinn, Pärnu and etc) should learn from this example, or they'll suffer the same fate.
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I hate the fact that I can't read Estonian. D: It's written in southern Estonian dialect too, it seems, so I can't use Google translator. The world is unfair.
If I'm not wrong, he wasn't the only one who saw Tartu's dsetruction as a punishment - other poems by other people I found also criticisized Dorpat for being corrupt and sinful, and that the destruction had been God's punishment for the city. In fact, some went so far to compare Tartu to Biblical cities such as Sodom, Gomorrah and Jerusalem (all destroyed by God because they were sinful in the Bible). Needless to say, Tartu/Jüri got pretty upset when he found out about this... e.e Understandable. It's not fun to hear, right after you almost died, that your death would have been okay because you were a bad person... ;___;
But yeah, while this event had quite an impact on Tartu as whole, I think he'd still be the way he is without it. XD What with the majority of the population being youths/students and being the "city of good thoughts".
Haha! XD I think it was a bit too long ago to have cameras and photos. But I agree, if there had been photos back then, she'd have a whole album full of those pictures with her smiling and doing the victory sign while buildings are burning and people fleeing in the background. Hahaha!
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haha nope I meant these awesome rhymes you made in your previous comment
But , ofcorse, you could write about destruction too! I have read that "oh ma vaene Tarto liin" poem before, it's kinda funny.. when I think of your OC Tartu it seems so comical that maybe one day in the past he felt extremely melancholic and wrote this poem
That's tru, Tartu must be youthful
Tbh I don't understand "Oh ma vaene Tarto liin" entirely myself
In the first verse he asks what he had done to deserve it..
In the second he talks about how good everything was before - school, church, nice house, animals an' stuff.
oh and so on (it's so long) ((he talks a lot about how nice life he lived
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Oh right! XD -bad memory- I had already forgotten that!
Pfft. XD I still have no idea how to write a poem. Apparently, it doesn't have to rhyme. That is all I know. XDD
HAHA XD Yeah, he would definitely write an extremly long poem if given the chance. He doesn't talk much about his history though...
There are no Estonian translation then? D:
It really is. XD I thought poems were always short before seeing this one. Haha!
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hehe it's ok
I have written very few poems in my life but I actually enjoy it! I love poetry! It's good that nowadays you don't have to use rhymes
haha I don't doubt he would! ..aww Tartu lemme hug you
I'm sure there is and actually there's no need for translation.. I just don't understand all the words in first glance
haha
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Oh, really? That's cool! What were they about? ...And, uh, what is poetry, exactly? XDD; Is it like song texts? All I see is... Text, but I can't figure out a pattern that sets them aside from regular texts (except things such as shorter sentences and things like that).
He accepts hugs, yes ~
Naww, don't put yourself down like that! It is written back in the 18th century after all. The language has probably changed enough to make it difficult to read. I struggle a lot when reading old Swedish texts too. XD Words changes their meaning over time, so even if they're still used, they don't necassarily mean the same as they did 300 years ago. I just recently found out that the word "nice" in English actually meant "stupid" in the 13th century, for example. XDDD
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ehm.. I had to write them at school when we had poetry course but yeah I liked it! I find it a easier way to express my thoughts than just plain writing.. I wrote about the evening star and about dreams.(stuff like this) And when we had to write a sonnet I wrote about my question, why people always look down at the cemetery when all they can see is dust under the ground. I think that when we really wanna see the dead ones we should just look around us and feel them in the wind and in the touch of snowflakes.. Sonnet, btw, is exact type of poem which has 14 verses and the rhymes and theme development has very strict rules
You haven't been in a touch with poetry before?
Well, I haven't thought of how I should explain or say what it really is
When the thing is about modern poetry it's very difficult. Some of these are just regular texts! But usually these are just unrhymed and .. I just know they are poems 
((yay huggie-huggie))
hah okay, thanks you for comforting me again (you must be very patient)! Words do change and ahahaha I haven't heard of the thing about the word ''nice'' before! Its meaning was completely opposite.
My mom just got Estonian-Võru dictionary and wow it's hella thick!! I haven't thought that you can make a dictionary like this based only on a small dialect..
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Oh, right! I've had to write poems in school too! I just wrote something though... >.>;;
Oh, those sounds beautiful! You like nature, huh? That's awesome ~
That sounds amazing, to be honest. I guess I'm not very skilled with words in general - I feel like expressing myself through poetry would be harder than writing normally even. e.e;; This all sounds so complicated for me. orz I'm not a words-person, I guess...
Spirit, huh? Yeah, I guess there's some sort of spirit in them that makes them somewhat recognizable. I think I can see it too sometimes - I just have no idea how to explain it either. XDD
It's great to see you're so into poetry, though!
Naw, it's okay. ^^ Yeah, that was a funny change! Maybe they just decided to play "Opposite" day or something and decided to make the change of "nice" permanent. Or maybe someone was really really drunk when writing a dictionary and changed the meaning of 'nice' on an accident. I really have no idea. Pffft.
We've had changes in words in Swedish too. A nice example is Runsk (the Swedish dialect in Ruhnu, which is a very archaic form of Swedish) and compare it to modern Swedish: in Runsk, their word for "speak" (språk) is actually modern Swedish' word for "language". So we who speak modern Swedish would think they sound weird, because "språk" is NOT used as a verb anymore. Like, ever. It's always a noun now. eue Anyways, they use very old words that we don't use anymore or changed the meanings of, so it usually takes me a very long time to understand any Estonian Swedish texts. XD So it's only natural for you to feel a bit lost with that poem.
THAT'S SO AWESOME! *q* I'm jealous...! Still, Võro does look pretty different from standard Estonian, so I understand why the book would be thick. And doesn't Võro dialect have a little different grammar/sentence structure? Like, in Estonian, to say "I don't know" is "ma ei tea" which has the same word order like English. But in Võro, the order is "I know don't"/"I know not", if I remember correctly. XD
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Thanks 
hehe good you think like that too!
I discovered my interest in poetry only in the last autumn when we had to make prsonal collections of poems we like.. I have two favourite Estonian authors : Jaan Kaplinski and Artur Alliksaar. They are both amazing!
haha maybe.. That makes me think maybe our history is one big joke that is based only stupid ideas of some silly stumps who just were like 'oh that sounds fun, let's try it for a day' orsth lol
That's interesting! I don't remember a word in Estonian which has changed the meaning.. I mean there are tons of them which look different but fundamentally are the same. ( but I'm sure there are the changed ones too)
It's quite awesome indeed
oh yeah you're right about the sentence structure! I haven't thought of it before but I have heard so many times when I listen old people talking how they say 'ei tia mina' (I know not). it's so natural
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I really love nature too ~
Don't worry about it - if they're anything like the stuff you've told me your poems were about, they're beautiful!
Ooh, I hate writing school essays too. Ironically, it's the only thing with words that I'm good at. XDD But no kiddin'... Expressing yourself is really hard...
Oh, I see! I've read some of Jaan Kaplinski's poems. I'm afraid I don't know the language of poetry very well, but I liked the ones that I understood. XDD (completely unrelated fact: my Tartu OC's surname was originally Kaplinski after Jaan Kaplinski)
Pfft. XD It wouldn't surprise me if we really did something like that over here in Sweden.
My Estonian vocabulary is very limited, so I'm trusting you on that. XD
Oooh, that's so cool!
That reminds me, though - Võro isn't the only south Estonian dialect. And since Käsu Hans was born in Tartumaa, maybe he wrote in Tartu dialect? I can't tell the difference between standard Estonian and Tartu, but I've noticed that a lot of words in Võro ends with a "q", which is a letter the poem doesn't feature...
So, that could be another reason why the poem is hard to read it. XD It could be in Tartu dialect (which is probably more uncommon and less widespread than Võro...?)?
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One can not simply hate nature!
Thank you for thinking like this
I know that feel - actually I hear it all the time that I am a good writer (the teacher even wanted to copy one of my essays before giving it back
Kaplinski writes a bit messily sometimes and it's hard to understand him but I find his poems very inspiring.
Ohh Tartu how cool!! Is kaplinski somehow connected with Tartu?
yup I think it's cool too! And sometimes confusing.. A few weeks ago I went to my countryside and on my way from bus stop to our house I met one old woman who's my grandmother's friend. She started talking to me in Võru dialect and it was really hard to understand her. Most of the time I just smiled witlessly and nodded
There is possibility that ''Oh ma vaene Tardo liin'' is not written in any dialect. I kinda started to remember how our teacher told that Estonian language was normally like this in those times.. I'm not a specialist but the spelling looks a lot like German- wait what I don't even know what I'm talking !! Well, let's say it's in Tartu dialect - it's the most logical idea.
For now Tartu dialect is mostly extinct, so I'm not sure how it looks..
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Yes, I don't understand those who don't. XDD
Naww... D: maybe it becomes easier with time? Everything I draw never turns out the way it looks like in my head either... 8D;
Oh, okay! XD So I'm not the only one struggling with his poems! Haha!
He's from/born in Tartu, from what I've gathered. I ultimately changed Tartu's name because I decided to name the characters after dead people only. XD; To avoid awkwardness or accidentally insulting people.
That's so cool! Yeah, I've read that Võro is the most different from standard Estonian. Ah, I'm so happy to hear people are still speaking it ~
Haha XD It's probably some southeast Estonian dialect, at the very least?
Aw, you've never seen it? D: That's too bad... I want to know how it looks like.. -never seen any longer text in Tartu-
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Tbh I don't know those who don't.. some people are just 'meh' when it comes to nature (still a bit irritating )
yup, maybe I just have to practice..
I'm sure the wouldn't feel insullted but it's wise to stay on a safe side C:
I remembered that one of my friend knows Kaplinski's family personally.. 
Sure it is (I am a total amateur when it comes to Estonian dialects and stuff like this so really.. don't wait adequate answers from me ..
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Hmm... Admittedly, I don't either. XD I too, only know those who are completely indifferent about it.
Good luck!
Haha XD That's cool!
Naww... ;n;
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Wow, she's wonderful!!! I really love her!!
Very beautiful work!
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She's really pretty ~
Thank you very much!
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