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My brother got the Metroid Prime Trilogy for Christmas and Metroid has just been on my mind for awhile now (such a good series)I wish they'd make a new Metroid for Wii U (Side Scrolling or First Person Shooter doesn't matter to me, though I prefer the Side Scrollers).
I think a good game could take place between Metroid II and Super Metroid to show more of a relationship between Samus and her Baby Metroid, because it never really shows them bonding; the Metroid hatches, they run to the ship, she hands it over to scientists, she rescues it from Ridley, it dies. To me that's not enough to have her be so emotional about it in Other M :/. So making a game between those two could be good, they'd have a little adventure together and bond and junk. The Metroid could act as a CPU assistant, and there could be a co-op mode where player 2 could play as the Metroid. As long as it doesn't play like Other M, have cutscenes like Other M, use voice acting like Other M, have a plot like Other M, or made by the people who made Other M, I would love it!
I don't care if it is my fanficiony plot or not, I'd just love a new one (as long as it isn't like Other M). It needs to be as hard as Super Metroid and needs little to no cutscenes (no voice acting), but still have a great story
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Baby Metroid: I'm going to be just like mommy when I grow up! X3
Samus: That's my girl! :3
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cute
at the same time, if only
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I would picture her looking like the final form of Dark Samus in Metroid Prime Echoes.
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Dark Samus is a metroid
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that does sound fitting
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Yeah, and she could be just as awesome
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I suppose
but would it be evil?
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If Samus was the one rasing her, then most likely no.
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*insert Mother Brain shooting the babbie metroid and Samus getting the Skittles Gun (taste the rainbow mofo)*
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Yeah, you could say that beam was 20% Cooler! XD
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I love the internet so much XD
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It's cute how the Baby Metroid has Samus's helmet.
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I like your style a LOT. I'm a huge fan of the Prime Trilogy as a whole and I think your idea could be kinda fun.
I like how much you stress that it shouldn't be like Other M, as well. Haha.
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Thanks
I was experimenting with color and shading, thought it looked nice
I would love my idea to be a game, I was talking with my bro about maybe making a hack of Super Metroid or just starting from scratch to make a fan made game or something (probably never going to happen, but we still talked about it)
Other M just sucked SO MUCH, its the only game in the series I was disappointed in
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It looks awesome! It makes me really happy that people
haven't forgotten about Metroid...even if Nintendo has.
Nintendo, man...they really let me down. A million Mario
games a year, a ton of Zelda, but no Metroid. Nope.
No Metroid.
It's cool to speculate, anyway. Me and my brother used
to do the same thing; talk about this game title or that game
title and what it should have had and what was cool and just
stuff like that. Game ideas especially.
I need to go play Super Metroid now. 
I can't cut on it too much. I watched a LONG youtube
video where this guy just talked about why Nintendo had
forgotten Metroid. Turns out the sales have always SUCKED
really bad, minus Prime and Fusion (the great comeback after
a ten year hiatus, which was also because sales sucked for
Super Metroid, which is considered an amazing game nowadays).
I'm thinking he's right, when you compare the sales to Zelda and
Mario, it's just downright terrible. And it's sad. Corruption was an
AMAZING game. Yet Twilight Princess and Mario Galaxy beat it
probably two or three times over. The reason I bother saying all this
is because I think Other M was just a last-ditch effort to revive it.
I can't really begin to understand why they thought that the gameplay
and the changes (such as Samus talking) would help their plight.
But they seemed to think it would. They even turned to a third party
developer to help them make the game. And it sold HORRIBLY.
I went out and preordered it. I was just happy that Nintendo was doing
SOMETHING with the series. I played it two or three times. All in all, Samus
talking was a terrible idea. But the redesigned suit look kinda cool. And the
piano-type music at the start screen wasn't half bad...even if it didn't really
sound like Metroid to me.
There were a LOT of things I disliked:
"RIDLEY! OH MY GOD RIDLEY HOW DID YOU SURVIVE THAT EXPLOSION EVEN
THOUGH YOU DO EVERY SINGLE TIME BUT OH MY GAWD I'M JUST GONNA FREAK
OUT ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT STILL SURPRISES ME." --Samus
As a kid I loved Fusion. It was the first full Metroid game I played. It scared me,
yet it was thrilling and amazing at the same time. Well...taking most of the creatures
from Fusion seemed cheap. I like the idea of seeing the Nightmare again. But the
plot, coupled with the characters that were totally BORROWED from Fusion...just seemed
repetitive and cheap.
GAH, I'll stop now.
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Granted, Mario Galaxy was amazing, one of the BEST in the series and one of the best games on the Wii, Twilight Princess was just OK... (I haven't gotten to Metroid Prime 3 yet)
The makers of Other M (Team Ninja) were the people who made Dead or Alive, a game all about hot girls fighting (they added a whole system for "jiggling" if you know what I mean). I assume they just saw Samus and were like, "HOT GIRL IN A SPACE SUIT! WE NEED TO MAKE A GAME!" (That's my theory, why else would they keep making Samus take of the Varia Suit?)
The Varia Suit in that game was OK, still like the Prime and Smash Bros designs better
But adding a beauty mark to Samus (even though technically Samus was originally supposed to have one) bothered me, because personally I think it made her uglier :/
I think they made the game so that it was mean to play like Super Metroid with a Z-axis, which would have been OK, but using a D-PAD instead of a Nunchuck was just an awful idea, then to shoot Missiles you go into first person? Why???
And they had 2 hours worth of cutscenes in Other M that told an AWFUL story, Super Metroid had (pretty much) NO cutscenes and the story was AMAZING
Ridley, if this was Samus' first mission I would understand why she would cry at the sight of him (due to the fact that he killed her parents), but being that this was her 5th encounter with him and second to last mission in the Metroid timeline (so far), it just didn't work.
And his whole evolution cycle? His species starts as a bunny thing and turns into a dragon? WHAT!? NO! I mean I know Metroids start of as jelly fish like creatures then turn to giant lizards, but that's just ridiculous!
Fusion was great! A bit easier than the rest of the series because they told you where to go rather than put you on a planet and let you figure it out like the rest of the series, but not so much that it practically held your hand the entire game. And all that stuff about the ecosystem just worked so well in the series; Samus killed off all the Metroids so now another species was able to grow and cause an even bigger problem, it was just great. And how the government was cloning Metoids as a secret super weapon, amazing. In Other M it just seemed like the Metroids were cloned just so they could be in the game, would have worked if Fusion didn't already do that.
Other M just seemed like they wanted to make a 3D Fusion because it was practically the same game just a MILLION times worse!
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I only got to play it a little. I mean, I like Mario games and all
but the level of neglect is just..so obvious. 
Twilight Princess looked. It was more mature looking than most
of the Zelda games. The older version of Link was cool.
I think you're right. There was a LOT of parts where Samus didn't
have the suit on. But then..I was actually really surprised that she
wasn't all cleavage and tits. The Zero Suit wasn't redesigned to show
off her boobs, and after everything I've heard about Team Ninja, I find
it shocking that they didn't exploit her.
The other Suit designs are undoubtedly better. The only reason this one is
as sleek as it is was for the fighting style that Team Ninja wanted to
implement, all dodges and jumping and whatnot. Personally, I really think the
Light Suit from Echoes is amazing. But you can't go wrong with the classic Varia,
either. I thought it was cool that (up until now) they based her Super Smash suit
off of the concepts from Super Metroid. That was a good move. I can understand
why she's in the Other M suit in SSB4, but given the reception that Other M has
had, I'm kinda surprised at the same time. The birthmark didn't help things, but
her monotonous voice-over bothered me more.
They should have thought the game through more. Sometimes you don't need
a ton of cutscenes. And honestly that whole first person thing (which was
advertised as being an extremely smooth transition from sidescroller to FPS) was
primarily used for purposes similar to a "point and click" game. You could use it to
fight a boss, but honestly you could defeat the bosses from the third person/sidescrolling
perspective just fine anyway. 
Ridley is a huge part of the experience for me--for everyone, I think. So when they
decided to make him a rabbit thing that evolves into a dragon/Space Pirate thing...just
no. It's not Pokemon.
kinda cool, but it should stick with them, otherwise it'd just be redundant. Next game
Samus will be throwing Pokeballs.
Fusion was probably the best GBA game I've ever played. I enjoyed a LOT of the Final
Fantasy games...but Fusion was just something else. The atmosphere was perfect.
You were being stalked. I seriously played that game constantly afraid that the SA-X
was gonna catch up with me. And just when you got comfortable...she found you again.
The game really just blew my mind. Still does.
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Hmm, the problem with Galaxy for me was it was a bit linear, not much to explore like in 64 or Sunshine. Twilight Princess had an interesting art style, but I like when they stylize the games rather than try to go Photo Realistic (like in Wind Waker, Skyward Sword, or even A Link Between Worlds)
They probably didn't add Jiggle Physics because the game needed to be Rated T instead of M
I like the look of the Light Suit also, but Varia is still my #1 fav
Other M was the latest in the series, I bet they just wanted to make a connection to that (what's great about that in SSB4 is that we can see what the Gravity Suit should have looked like in Other M rather than adding a Purple Aura around Samus)
What. Are. You. Talking. About? ... Her. Voice. Was. Amazing. ... And. So. How. Samus. Would. Sound. Like. ... Also. Do. You. Think. Adam. Is. Dreamy? ... Does. He. Even. Notice. Me? ...
(I'm being sarcastic btw XD)
Another think I hated was that Adam was kinda meant to be like a fatherly figure (or at least that's how I saw it), not a love interest
Yeah, less is more. Prime was great because instead of having cutscenes they told the story through optional scans, so you could read an interesting story while you played the game or just shoot things. But all the cutscenes in Other M just sucked
(The opening cutscene with Mother Brain Killing the Baby, that was the only cutscene that was actually good, but because of visuals, not narratives)
At least with the Metroid Evolution you can see the transition, with Ridley it was kinda... forced? I dunno, it just didn't work.
Agreed, even though I never played the game until last year XP
SA-X, that thing FREAKED ME OUT (And I'm 19!), but that feeling when you finally confront SA-X and kill it, such an awesome experience
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Gahh, linear. That's a huge problem with games. Especially now.
Sometimes it seems like the dev teams don't have the time
to really flesh out a story or even add some damn side missions.
So we get this "quick do this do that" story in a lot of games and
it's frustrating when you're in love with the plot and the world and
the characters, just to find that you're limited in how much you can
really immerse yourself in that world. Another reason the scans in the
Prime games are so amazing. You spend hours just scanning small
minuscule things...but only if you want. I love doing that. Style is nice.
Zelda has had a lot of different variations to Link. I think that the cell-shaded
(is that the right term?) Toon Link from like Phantom Hourglass and Wind Waker
is really cool.
Ohhhh! That makes sense. That actually totally explains it. It probably killed them
to have to restrain themselves from doing something that they always do. And that's
kinda cool that they are implementing a proper Gravity Suit. That purple glow wasn't
all that convincing. Just kinda seemed cheap. I guess they thought the sleek looking
Other M Varia Suit would look funny in purple. I'm interested to see what it looks like!
You almost fooled me! Haha. I'd feel terrible if I'd cut on the voice acting and then come
to find out that it was amazing in your opinion. I really don't hate Other M, I just see it's flaws.
I'm a pretty open-minded fan. I don't get into the whole "you suck if you liked that game" "you
suck if you think Prime was a good game" arguments. XD I'm guessing you probably don't, either.
I don't know...I guess I kinda thought of Adam as an extremely influential person that Samus might
have had feelings for. Might. Samus needs to stay out of the whole love story mess.
It's just not suitable for the game. She's alone. She just wants to avenge her parents and
end the Space Pirates. For good. I think the story is good enough without all that other drama.
Yeah! I'm telling you, I got lost scanning random things. Symbols, doors, creatures...I scanned
everything!
Graphics wise, Other M looked really good (especially for Wii). But just..no. The drama was just
over the top. I already knew Adam was a really cool guy--just because of Fusion. I didn't need
another game to prove that to me.
I don't know, man. How you get a little creature like the Choggle(I think that's what it's called), and
turn that into Ridley...just NO.
Well I didn't want to admit this, but when I say I was a kid and Fusion scared me, I mean that I
was 14 and the game scared me.
computer is communicating with someone unknown and Samus HAS NO IDEA. It just scared me
a LOT because it was so unexpected. You get on the elevator and then..what the hell?!?!
But the SA-X was always my primary fear. I mean...the times it appeared really did seem random.
And I learned pretty quick that getting caught by it wasn't a good way to die.
amazing game. It's odd that it scared me like it did, because I don't scare easy. I can sit in the
dark (alone) and play anything these days. (So far..) I'm a fan of Resident Evil and Dead Space.
Especially Dead Space.
You ever play Metroid Prime Hunters? I'd be interested to know your opinion on it.
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Yes it is called cell-shaded. I like that style. I think they did that because they needed a way to show which way the wind was blowing, so they stylized it like a cartoon so that it could be easily shown (I wanna say that was the story, but I could be wrong)
I bet it was lazy programmers not wanting to re-texture the entire Samus model
While Other M is not perfect... actually I'm just going to stop there, it wasn't perfect. It stunk and I don't want to conciser it canon to the series. With a flaw like that I bet Nintendo will put more care into who makes the Metroid Games.
I won't be mad at anyone who actually liked the game, I won't think (that much) less of them, I still stand on my belief that it was just awful, everyone is entitled to their own opinion (even if its wrong).
I always thought of Samus as a loner and a hot head (because before dialog was added I just blew $#!T up as Samus, so that's kinda how I saw her), so when they made her a sensitive woman cliche I got pretty upset
Yeah, and you learn so much about the Metoid Universe from the scans. And some of the stuff you scan in Metroid Prime are pretty funny, like the one where the space pirates were trying to recreate Samus' armor from the debris of her suit, they tried to make the morph ball, but none of them were able to get inside and hurt themselves, so they canned the project XD
If I played fusion as a kid I would probably have been scarred for life XD
What I liked was it wasn't a Jump Scare type of scary, it was the kind of scary that messed with you, got in your mind
Yes, loved it
They should make another for the 3DS
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That sounds legit.
It's sad that games nowadays can have more content than ever before,
and developers are using that opportunity to cut corners whenever
possible. You can take an old school game--like one of the Final Fantasy
titles...and compare it to Final Fantasy XIII and it's just like "what the hell
happened?" You've got amazing graphics, the money to deliver a kick
ass game...and you end up with a game that's just "okay."
I like the way you word that. I can understand fully what you're saying.
YES. No love story here. Samus is alone. She's been alone since she was a
child and that CANNOT change.
Aww yeah! I remember that now. And I recall them referring to Dark
Samus as a fearsome witch or something in another scan. Must be fun
to be a pirate. Minus the part where you get fed to the Metroids or
have experiments done on you.
Yeah. Atmospheric. It takes a helluva game to immerse the player and
scare the player just because.
It honestly was probably the best DS game I've ever played. Sure, the
bosses got pretty repetitive and the way you moved from planet to planet
was essentially the same (boss is down. NOW ESCAPE BECAUSE SECURITY
IS GONNA GET ROUGH. GOOD. NOW DO IT AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN). But
ultimately it came out pretty early in the DS's life and it was an amazing game.
I put 300 some hours into it.
Some higher up Nintendo person was hinting at some ideas for the future of
Metroid and he said that one of their ideas that they toy with is doing something
to further the story of the Hunters. That really gives me a lot of different ideas as
to what Metroid could do in the future.
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I've never played Final Fantasy, its a series I want to get into, but just never found the time :/ (But I know what you mean by the games not being as good as they use to be, I hear that a lot from friends)
Huh, I never really thought about how long she'd been alone
Maybe that's why Samus had a strong bond with the Baby Metroid. Her parents died, so she was raised by the Chozos. Then the Chozos died, and she was alone for years. Then she finds the Baby Metroid and it thinks that she's it's mother. And that's why she worked so hard to try to get it back when Ridley took it, because it was practically the last family she had left.
Agreed, definitely one of the best DS games. The boss battles were my only MAJOR complaint with the game, the first two times you fought the bosses were like "Aw yeah! PEW PEW PEW" then you get to the second version of the bosses and it's like, "What? These guys again? Ok... kinda lame... pew..."
I also enjoyed the Multi-Player to Metroid Prime Hunters. I remember Metroid Prime 2's multi-player being OK (been years since we played 2, so I don't recall much of it), but there was something even better about Prime Hunters' multi-player that was just so good.
I would LOVE to see more with the hunters. More bounty hunters, more planets, awesome boss fights.
I would love to see a Hunters sequel on the Wii U with Online Multiplayer (but I'd be ok if it were for 3ds instead)
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YOU GOTTA! They are amazing...well, the more original ones
that you could play on the GBA, and then Final Fantasy III on the
DS was also an amazing experience. I'm surprised that your friends
share my opinion as it seems most people really like the characters
and concepts in XIII. Honestly, it's not that I hate the game.
It's just so terrible in comparison to what FF used to mean to me.
Another Other M scenario.
You're right! Her Metroid fused DNA would probably make it even
more urgent that she keep the baby alive, especially since it was the
last freaking one.
That's where most of my three hours went. Fighting the AI, because
it didn't take long for Action Replay to come out and give people
the ability to ruin the experience online.
to say. I just hope that if Nintendo steps in that direction that they keep
some sort of depth to it. I hate the old "halo vs. Metroid" argument.
I own all of the Halo games (minus Halo Wars) and I can honestly say
that they shouldn't ever have been compared in the first place. Halo
has the online multiplayer, and it's fun, but the story isn't as deep or
compelling as the one told in the Metroid games. I just hope that if
Nintendo does something like that, that they make it so obviously
a Metroid experience. I just don't want to hear that argument anymore.
The two games are about as different as two FPS can get.
I'd be good with it coming out on 3DS, but Wii U does seem like a more
likely candidate. The tablet controller thing could be used to scan stuff and
whatnot.
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I definitely want to play them, just gotta find the time
Well Samus didn't get the Metroid DNA until Metroid Fusion (so she could stop the X-Parasite from killing her when she got infected), Fusion took place after the Baby was already dead.
Action Replay is a great mod hacker thing, but it shouldn't be used for multi-player. I hate how hacks and stuff like that have ruined competitive online experiences. Hacks, mods, cheats, and all that other stuff should stay on Single-Playerd or Co-ops, not for competitive online play (but there's nothing to do to stop it).
Both Halo and Metroid are good games for their own reasons, they don't need to be compared, just enjoyed.
Internet arguments are pointless, they're unavoidable, but pointless.
I think the Wii U would be the most likely if they were to make a new Metroid, but I'd be happy with either or (The Wii U for the HD and Gamepad, and the 3DS for the 3D and portability, could you just imagine how cool the 3D would look looking through Samus' Visor?)
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I thought that in the Manga and stuff that the Chozo had
to inject her with some to keep her alive in such a crazy
climate or whatever (the planet wasn't hospitable for
humans).
That's what really bothered me. I wish that Nintendo could have
stopped it somehow. Or that the Action Replay designers weren't
so stupid that they'd include competitive multiplayer hacks. It
was really annoying being chased around by someone who could
use the Omega Cannon on any map and could use it point blank with
no worries about personal safety. I just really wanna know how
that even seems remotely fun when you get online and nobody
has a fighting chance because you hacked.
That's a good way of looking at it. I guess I just fall into the "prefer good
story with my shooting" type of person. I'm currently trying to play through
Gears Of War. But..ugh. It's almost boring imho.
Holy crap I never even thought of that. I'd never get tired of that!! I used to love
seeing her reflection looking back at you in the Prime games whenever something was really bright.
It was awesome the very first time it happened and I thought that I'd imagined it.
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I've never read the Manga, so I wouldn't know that :/
Yeah, that is annoying
The only "fun" being had with hacked Multi-Player is by the guy who hacked the game (or the guy who still beat the guy who hacked), but there's no way to stop it, if it can be hacked it'll get hacked
A good story is always great for a game, but it's important to have a good game for the story and a good story for the game (even if the story isn't as intense)
Games just need to have a perfect balance of gameplay and story (and graphics maybe)
Yeah, I loved that attention to detail in Prime, hopefully if they make another they can add more to it
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Ohhhh.
Yeah, these days graphics are important. I find myself
liking the way things used to be, though. I guess it's just
pure nostalgia. But back when the graphics were simple
but the story still affected you deeply and drew you in...
that's just awesome.
Yeah!!
You've gotta let me know what you think of Corruption
when you play it.
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These days graphics ARE the games, no body seems to care about how the game plays, just how it looks , and it really bothers me
One of the reasons I love Nintendo is because they know that, so they stylize their games to work with the amount of graphic power the system can stand, everyone else seems to want to make the most realistic game, which is then later obsolete by the next year
Legend of Zelda Wind Waker ( original, not HD) still looks great today, but Call of Duty ( whichever was the last one) just seems OK
Games need to go back to their roots of good stories and gameplay (worry about graphics later)
Yeah, can't wait to play it, but I head back to College tomorrow and my Wii and Wii U will be back home (no TV), so I gotta wait till SUMMER! (That'll drive me crazy)
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I can relate. I mean, I love looking at something that looks
amazing, but at the same time, I just got done playing through
Castlevania: SotN, and (even though it's old), it's a perfect example
of how amazing a game can be..even if it's not the most graphic
thing ever. I know people that can't play older games because
the graphics bother them THAT much.
I haven't ever played Wind Waker, but I hear so many AMAZING
things about it all the time. CoD games are about the same every
year. The names and faces change, but in the end you're still playing
a cover-based game against some terrorist threat to America, using
all the "future realistic military prototypes" to blow stuff up. I have
little faith in the games anymore. Ghost (the newest one) just had a
TERRIBLE ending imho (I watched my brother finish it, didn't waste
my money
It's worth the wait.
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Yeah
Skyrim is another example, when it came out the graphics seemed amazing, now the graphics are just ok (but I still play that because it's a fun game)
Wind Waker is one of the better Zelda game. To me the remake for the Wii U just doesn't seem worth the time if you already own the Gamecube version (I hardly notice a difference between the two), but it is worth looking into at least
I don't even play Call of Duty, I can't stand it. The only time I played it was when my friend bought the game and he just wanted to show it off as if it were some sort of trophy (I played along pretending it was pretty cool, but I was dying on the inside xP)
Sweet
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I love Skyrim. I kinda want to get into Oblivion and see
what that one is like. I've watched a friend play it a little bit
and it seemed pretty great. That's a game I've had over a
year now and still haven't finished the main story! I should
really get around to that...
I'm really thinking about getting a Gamecube. Just for things like
that. I used to have Prime for the GC but not anymore, since I bought
the Trilogy for Wii. 
pretty cool, but I always felt like the puzzles were so far over my head. I
guess I got used to the Metroid style puzzles.
I really liked playing Modern Warfare 2 with my friends a few years back.
The maps were SOOO much better, but all the same it was senseless
competitive fun.
all the hype would have you believe. It's kinda stupid to make a game a year
anyway, it makes people question the quality. Assassin's Creed is a game
series that I've really enjoyed playing. When Ubi said they were gonna
make one of those games a year, I got to this point where I'm wondering
if the story/characters/etc. are getting the attention they deserve...
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Oblivion was a pretty fun game, the customization of characters in that game was a lot better than Skyrim's, but the gameplay wasn't as good (still fun, but not as good).
I finished the main story of Skyrim, but I still have HUNDREDS of side quests that I need to do. But that's what I love about the game, there's so much to do in it, and when you think you're done another adventure shows up, it adds a lot of replay value to a game (something most games nowadays don't have). That's why I can't wait for the Elder Scrolls Online, (hopefully) it'll be like a multiplayer Skyrim, but it does seems really pricey ($15 a month!) so I don't know if I'll get it or not :/
I'd like to get another Gamecube for nostalgic reasons, but I have a Wii with backwards comparability that works fine.
I still think that the Gamecube has the best controller of any game system only because the buttons were all different shapes and sizes so you never really needed to look down at it, unlike the Xbox and Playstation (and Wii U and 3DS) where they're all pretty much the same shape and size but in different locations, so you look down at your controller more often than you need to.
Metroid's puzzles were all backtracking and memorization stuff, Zelda's puzzles are more pushing a block (both series are fun).
Meh, the earlier years of playing Call of Duty with my friend was ok (I was new to the series, didn't know what to expect in a match), but then it just got SO BORING and repetitive that I don't like them at all. Then they keep milking out a new game every year and people think it's the greatest game they've ever played. But you know a game series is going down hill when their selling point was they added Dogs and Fish AI (www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMYso3…
Assassin's Creed is a good series, but I don't know how I feel about a new game EVERY YEAR. I've only played 1 and 3 (don't own 2, 4, or any of the others) and the gameplay seems fun. But the gameplay is pretty much the same. Assassin's Creed 4 looks like 3 but with more focus on that one minigame that they introduced (sailing). I love stealth based games, but I do enjoy having a bigger variety, and Assassin's Creed just seems to be milking the same stuff :/
Sure Mario is milked out a bit, but at least the people at Nintendo try to incorporate something new to the series (unless it's the New Super Mario series).
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Ah. I've played games like that. It's cool to see how much
the devs have improved something from one title to the
next. In a few years time all the new games are gonna look
like crap. Fortunately, I try not to let graphics bother me too
much. I can overlook A LOT if the story is right and I can see
that the team put in some effort and not just some cash cow
type deal.
My brother won't shut up about Elder Scrolls Online. At this
point, 15 bucks a month is pretty steep so I can't say I'll be
immediately ready to join. Hell, I'd have to shell out 500+ for
an Xbox One first, and that's not gonna happen anytime soon.
Yeah. I had the pleasure of playing the original Prime and Echoes
on it..with the classic controls. It was nice. The Wii controls just..
made it all seem so much smoother and I can't really decide which
one I like more. Probably the Wii controls. Just feels so much more
real, as far as Metroid titles are concerned.
I can wholeheartedly agree with you, and the link. It's sad that something
that trivial is being marketed as something that defines "next gen gaming."
While the earlier COD titles weren't all that bad (still senseless shoot 'em ups),
this one game a year thing just seems like a bad idea. It looks bad on the
devs because honestly that's not a whole lot of time. By the time one
game releases you'd already have to be working out the concepts for the next.
Not enough time to really put any thought or heart into a project...not even enough
time to make a proper (albeit senseless) game with little to no story and
repetitive gameplay.
The gameplay is about the same from game to game. I think the point
of these games is some old fashioned tradition mixed with amazing
storylines. If you can get past the gameplay (me hide, me jump from
buildings, me kill, me run, me hide!), then there's a lot of good things
about the games. Honestly though, I think they should wait a LONG time
before making AC 5. AC 4 was a good game. I bought that one day one,
after waiting all year...and it didn't disappoint!
True, minus that Mario cat thing. That scared me almost more than
the Pyramid Head concepts.
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As long as the gameplay is good, I can overlook any game. Story is important, but for games like Just Cause 2 I don't care about story and just play around
The problem is with joining in later on is that most people won't play anymore (for me it'll be a long time before I get it). But at least the servers won't be crowded
I say the Wii Controlls are better by a landslide. The controls on the GameCube just didn't feel right and made me dislike the game a bit :/
The Wii's just felt right
Yeah, and what I hate the most about this Next-Gen Crap is that nobody considers the WiiU just because of its graphics. The WiiU is such an improvement over the Wii, and should be considered Next-Gen (I'd rather have my WiiU than get any of the "Next-Gens").
The thing is it's not about making games anymore, it's all about making money. I remember when one of the CoDs wasn't even released yet and they were talking about add on DLC for sale. NO! Just, no... If the game's still in development you add the "DLC" into the game, not sell it seporately day of.
I like what I've played from Assassin's Creed, and I agree that they should wait awhile before releasing the next one. It's still good now because it's kinda new, but given time it's going to get boring,
(I do wanna get 4, but I can wait)
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Sorry for late reply. DERP.
I've played two games lately that made me realize that
sometimes it's not about the story, but in the gameplay
and the presentation and how much fun you can have doing simple things.
Those two games are Saints Row: the Third and Borderlands 2. Both
legitimately have stories to them, and the stories aren't bad to be honest.
But when you really look at the game, at how crazy and goofy the storylines are,
you just have to admit that it's not meant to be taken SUPER seriously like some games.
And there's nothing wrong with that.
Oh no! That's definitely an issue, especially when you know it's a game you're
going to enjoy playing and you pretty much HAVE to have other people to even
play the game at all.
They were definitely strange, but I got used to them and have good memories
of playing with them before the Wii. You're right about the Wii. It did feel
pretty legit when you were THAT in control of the games you were playing.
I mean, I'll always love the classic controllers like Xbox and PS has, but still.
I can't say I'd agree with that. I was stoked for E3. Every single year I
read up on the announcements. Hoping. Waiting. And ever since Other M
Nintendo has done NOTHING with Metroid and I'm still pretty angry about it.
Majorly let me down. No 3DS title. No Wii U title. Two new systems, no Metroid
game to show off on it. That's like the only reason I would want a Wii U (other than
Smash bros.) and I already have a 3DS, so I'll probably be getting it on that.
Agreed wholeheartedly. It makes me kinda nervous to see where things are going
anymore.
4 was pretty amazing.
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I've been told Saints Row was a pretty good series, it's like a huge parody of Grand Theft Auto, I've been meaning to get into that but never got around to it. Borderlands 2, the gameplay was great, didn't care much for the story (but as you said, it's not bad) but it never stopped me from playing it. That's what I like in a game, something that's not supposed to be taken seriously, just something to be enjoyed.
And once you play with friends you never really want to play with anyone else (I mean you can, but it just isn't as fun).
Well my major problem was aiming the blaster, in the Wii version you could point your Wii-Remote where you wanted to blast, but on the Gamecube you needed to hold down the L Button (or was it R?) and it was kinda frustrating to me :/
It's weird though because the Gamecube controller, in my opinion, was the best controller ever made, but Metroid just didn't control right for it.
I dunno why Nintendo doesn't do anything with Metroid, I guess making another Mario or Zelda is just easier and safer to make than trying something new (although I do enjoy Mario and Zelda, I wanna see more Nintendo franchises get love).
Well once Microsoft and Sony reach the highest level of Graphical Improvement they'll realize that they need to focus on games (I don't worry about Nintendo because they pretty much know this already), unfortunately I can only seeing DLC just getting more annoying :/
It looks good, and I'm a bit interested in Unity, but I can still wait
(To be honest I'm a bit ticked off at Ubisoft at the moment and don't wanna give them my money. I bought a used copy of Assassin's Creed 2 at a thrift store for $5 but they won't let me play it until I pay them $10 for an Activation Key because of that stupid Uplay thing. Yes, it is a bit of an over reaction, but it's just lame that they make you do this.)
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It is pretty fun, pretty over the top at some moments though.
I didn't mind it very much, but I can imagine if you're playing
and other people are around, there's a lot of things that people
would find offensive. You probably know that already, though.
Anyway..I beat the main campaign in Borderlands 2 today, and
I've had most of the DLC for awhile now, so I'll be playing through
those. Surprisingly, there's like 6-7 hours per story DLC, so ten
bucks feels like you're actually getting something for your money.
Yeah, especially with games like that.
I can understand what you're saying. The controls were pretty
strange. The controller definitely had a comfortable feel to it though.
Not sure if I'd say it's my favorite. I really liked the PS2 controller, and
I guess the PS3 controller is about the same. I play Xbox 360,
and honestly I've gotten pretty comfortable with it.
That's exactly it. They lost money with MP3: Corruption and Other M.
I think they lost money with MP2: Echoes, as well. They don't want
to bother and give the fans anything because there's not enough
profit. It's a smart move business-wise, but what about the fans?
Nintendo used to have something these other consoles didn't--
good stories and super cool characters that were exclusive.
But anymore the games I want to play are on Xbox and I've
not really looked back and wanted to buy a Wii U.
Maybe someday, but not now.
Agreed. There's no way to stop it other than to boycott the DLC
until they realize there's no profit in it anymore, but nobody wants
to do that. It's hard to know if you're ever getting something extra,
or if you're just paying for something that was omitted from the final
game. I guess it's easy to tell when the DLC comes out the same day
as the game is released...or if it's being advertised before it is released,
in some cases.
I don't understand..what platform are you trying to play it on? You don't
need a pass to play ACII on Xbox, because there's no multiplayer in it.
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I didn't get far in Borderlands 2, and I haven't touched it in awhile (been busy, really should get back on it soon). But what I played I enjoyed.
Xbox 360's controller is, in my opinion, the second best. I always felt the PlayStation's controller was a bit odd, but I didn't hate it. But the thing I liked about Gamecube's controller over the Xbox's or PlayStation's is the fact that every button had a different shape to it, not just a color or letter. I never felt like I had to look down at it and find the button to push, I'd just push it. With Xbox and Playstation (even Wii U and 3DS) all the buttons are pretty much the same size and shape but in a different location, so when jumping from different consoles I'd get the buttons all mixed up. And it just bothers me that Nintendo had the best controller but they won't make any more (I mean they're coming out with the Gamecube to Wii U converter, which is nice, but I feel like they should have made the ProControllers q Gamecube one with Clickable analog sticks, Start Select and Home Menu buttons, and ZR and ZL buttons, instead of making it an Xbox controller with the Analog stick where the buttons usually are).
Well the Wii U is doing sorta fine. It has Mario 3D World and Mario Kart for the time being (and there a few games down the road Hyrule Warriors and SMASH BROS) but I can see why some wouldn't want it (right away if not at all).
I think it would be a wasted opportunity to NOT make a new Metroid title for it, with the HD graphics and bottom screen for maps and menus, it's like the system was MADE for a Metroid, and by not making one would seriously be a waist. Even though I know everyone would want a Prime game, I would kinda like a more Super Metroid styled one (not like Fusion though, though it was fun, that game was a little too hand holdy, I want Samus on a planet with NO IDEA what to do).
Well I don't think DLC needs to be boycotted entirely, just seriously worked on. I think DLC should ADD to a game, not make it seem like now you have the full game now. (Like Bioshock Infinite's Burial at Sea, I felt that they were good and fair DLCs; it was pretty much like buying another game with an entirely new story, but same gameplay, for a decent price)
Nintendo I thought was doing fairly well with its DLC, I never felt gypped buying one of Nintendo's DLCs before, but now they're doing the whole Amiibo thing now and I'm really questioning my opinions on them now. On the one had they're selling all those figurines (over priced, I assume) for DLCs to their games, and I'm not too fond of that, but on the other hand, the physical figurines themselves actually look pretty cool. Also, it's not like Skylanders where you have to pay for $10-$15 for EACH character that are NEEDED for the game, the Amiibos are at least optional... I really don't know...
I got ASII for the PC, it's all installed on my computer but I need the activation key to play it because for some reason you have to register it on their Uplay thing. The activation key that was in the game case was already used, and thus didn't work, so I need to send Ubisoft $10 to get a new one... That's twice the amount I had to pay for the game, and that makes it $15 total, and I know I can get for less than $10 during a Steam Sale
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There's just a LOT to do. I think I've done most of the
campaign's side missions, so I'd say that's gotta be pretty
close to being completely wrapped up. But I also go for
achievements so I've got a LOT left to do in the game. Plus
two more DLC packs, which are (supposedly) 7-8 hours apiece.
2K didn't take advantage of people when they released DLC,
not with as much content as you're adding to it for ten bucks.
Yeah. That would've been nice. I wish I could have got ahold of
a Wii before the servers went down. I would have spent some
money and downloaded a few of the older Nintendo games off
the virtual console. Super Metroid with a GC controller would have
been SICK.
I like your idea. I didn't realize that about Fusion--it was the first
title I actually played, minus the little demo game that came out
when the DS was a brand new system. I know it's linear, but I
never really thought about how much "Adam" helps you through
the game. Nevertheless, it's still one of my favorites in the series,
behind the Prime Trilogy. Honestly, I would kinda be happy with
anything, so long as it's not too short and not too linear. And NO
ABSOLUTELY NO NO NO talking Samus. Her silence was something
I loved about the games. You had to get to know the characters
through little hints, the way she couldn't handle to watch her
fellow Hunters die in Corruption without clenching a fist or looking
away...things like that. There were no tears, no crying...no screaming.
Hmm. I didn't know they were doing that...but I'd love to have the
Other M Samus figure and the Samus statue based on her Other M
Zero Suit appearance. Looks amazing.
Wow. That's really lame. I'd hold out for a sale, like you said.
It's one of the best in the series--the best, in my opinion.
So it's definitely something you gotta play at some point.
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Yeah, there's just so much to do and it would take a long time to do, and I just don't find myself having time to play it.
That type of DLC is fine in my opinion
With Fusion it was like, "Go there" "Go there" "Go there" and that was a bit annoying, but at least you had to solve puzzles to find a way to get "there" But I'd rather have no help what so ever (more like Prime, even though it was similar to Fusion's, I felt like it worked better and I never really got annoyed with it)
Shortness is a problem I have with so many games today, it's just so annoying to pay $60 for something I'll beat in less than a week. But I don't want it to be too long because then I'll get bored. So they need to make it the right amount of long (and not short).
Samus talking wouldn't be too bad, I would prefer her to be silent, but if they do voice acting again just give her a better voice actress who can ACTUALLY SHOW EMOTIONS! Like Kid Icarus Uprising, I really liked the voice acting in that game and it made the characters more enjoyable, so voice acting does work in a Nintendo game, it just has to be done right (but I would still prefer a silent Samus).
Yeah, they're doing that. Even though I do like the figurines all that much, they look like they're good quality and I'll probably buy some of my favorite characters, but I still don't really like the idea of it
Well it's not so bad, my sister bought Skyrim at the same place for $6 and Steam (or Bethesda, forget which) was telling her she has to pay for an entirely new game
I remember when buying a used PC game was as simple as just putting the game in the PC
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Yeah, the amount of time spent playing a game is
a big deal to me. Some games are amazing but could
have so much more put into them, it almost makes you
wonder why they came out so short to begin with. At
the moment I'm thinking of both Star Wars: the Force
Unleashed games. Both were short, had major story gaps
that were explained in a mere sentences like "i tracked you
all the way from (insert planet name) to (insert planet name)."
It's just kinda sad. Some games I can understand (kinda), like
if they aren't the biggest developers in the industry. But
Lucasarts?
Sadly after Other M I just don't think talking Samus will ever
be cool in my mind. I just can't feel the same way about it as
I do about her in the other games when she was silent. It just
felt...right, somehow. You're playing a bounty hunter. You're
orphaned and alone in space. Your only real thrill in life is
succeeding, and your only real drive is taking out space pirates
because they killed your parents (or Ridley did, but he's a space
pirate anyway). If you really think about it, Samus is broken.
Probably hardened by the things that she has gone through.
But I don't think people see that. I think they see the sexualized
side of the character, or the armor...but I doubt they really think
about the character at her core. There's a lot there, and I think
that silence sorta fits the character (and I use the word "broken"
very carefully. She's not broken, but you know what I mean).
AHHHHHHH! I remember those days. It used to be so simple.
It's funny, Microsoft tried to release the Xbox One last year with some
sort of feature that prohibited the sharing/borrowing/used games
thing, which would have (in my opinion) killed their sales for every
dollar they gained in new games sold (and don't even get me started
about how everything will be digital-only before long..).
It's absolutely ridiculous the way gaming is getting these days.
I want to get the One, but honestly I hate what they did to
it in comparison to the 360. Won't be getting one
any time soon.
Sorry, almost getting off topic with my Xbox One rant...
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Length is very important to me as well. I felt like the length of The Force Unleashed 1 was OK but The Force Unleashed 2 was WAY to short (I especially remember the Dagobah literally being one incredibly short hallway).
For me Pikmin 3 would be my example of a game that was totally awesome but way too short. The gameplay and graphics were the best of all the Pikmin games, and I really enjoyed the story, but the game itself didn't take long to beat :/
I also think replay value is important (if not the most important). Like Sonic Adventure 2, it had a great length to it, but it also had the Chao Garden which made me want to play the levels again and do all the missions so I could collect rings, chaos drives, and animals to take care of my Chao. Which is why I think that no other Sonic games can compare to that one (sure there's a bunch of good Sonic games out there, but SA2 is just the best to me).
Also, I still play Kirby's Air Ride to this day, it isn't a long game, but it has SO MUCH replay value (I've had the game for 11 years and the game doesn't feel out of date or boring). To me that's a perfect game.
I never really thought about it that way.
I saw Samus more as hothead tomboyish girl, fueled by the lost of her family (both real and Chozo), sometimes she'll be chillaxed and cool, but she has a short fuse and can get enraged rather quickly. And then Other M gave us an emotionless robot (or as you said, broken), so that's why I didn't like that voice at all.
I kinda wanted to make a comic series about Samus, Zelda, and Peach just living together, so that's why she has that personality (and Peach would be a ditsy girl who annoys Samus constantly, Zelda was just kinda there...)
Agreed, I'm not liking a lot of stuff that Microsoft's been doing these days.
If that whole "No Sharing" thing were to catch on it would have ruined everything for games (and put stores like Gamestop out of business). Digital games aren't bad depending on the game, personally I would think Animal Crossing would be a good downloaded game so I could have it everywhere I go, but I have a digital copy of Mario and Luigi Dream Team (came free with the Mario and Luigi 3DSXL I bought) and I don't really think that it works as well as a download game (I'd rather the cartridge).
I don't care for the One, honestly there's nothing for it I want (now that Deadrising 3 is coming to PC), and it just doesn't seem like that good of a system :/ I'm happy with the Wii U and 360, and I just can't see myself with an Xbox One (unless they make a new Banjo-Kazooie game, then I'll think about it) (BTW this applies to PS4 as well)
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TFU 1 was better than the second by far, in my opinion. The
second was definitely shorter, and the Dagobah thing was
pretty stupid as far as gameplay goes. The Wii version of
TFU 2 actually had a Dagobah level. You run through caves
and there's the clones and it was honestly really cool. One
of the coolest things about the series is that each game on
each system offers something different (except maybe the
ps3/xbox ones, which are about the same). The DS version
of the first TFU was way different than the PS2 version. And
both were way different than the 360 version (in hindsight,
I've played like every version of the game. Wow).
I've never played a Pikmin game. But I remember the map
and the characters that were in Brawl, which is seriously the
best fighting game ever.
I think that's the Samus that Other M was aiming for. Might
have been closer if they could've had a better voice actor
for Samus. The woman didn't even show any emotion until
late into the game...like yeah. I know she's gone through a
lot, I know she's got to be a little cold inside, but honestly...
she's not a robot. At any rate, that sounds like an interesting
idea.
It sucks when the downloads aren't up to par with what they
should be, or what the disc version runs like. As far as the One
goes, I've got more than enough reasons to want one, but enough
little things that I just freaking HATE that it's kinda hard for me to
justify the purchase, even if I had 400.00 lying around for my
gaming hobby/addiction. Microsoft just took something simple and
great, and ruined it with TV features and other things that I don't
personally care for (and I don't think anyone else did either, judging
by the backlash they received when they unveiled it). Hell, PS even
capitalized on that backlash by having a slogan advertised next
to the PS4 that said "this is for the players" or something like
that. Pretty bad when you can't buy a gaming system for gaming
anymore, it's all upgraded and bogged down with other stuff you
probably won't care about or ever use. I thought that's what Smart
TV's were for...
Someone I was playing on XBL with the other day told me that Gamestop
has plans to revert to selling phones or something, and that'll become their
business. Lots of people are predicting the digital-only format is coming soon.
I'll miss discs. I feel old school about it, but hell, as a kid we didn't have
any of that crap! Sure it has it's pros, but just the physical copy of a game
and having it is just awesome. Especially if it's a game you really like (like
my Prime Trilogy in the steel hardcase).
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Really? Neat, I remember my younger brother got TFU 2 on the DS and I knew it would be different because... well it's a DS compared to a 360. I would have thought the only difference would be the graphics (and for the Wii, motion control).
It's a good series (there all good in their own way, but I think in terms of story the first one is the best, in terms of gameplay the second one was the best, and in terms of multiplayer the third one was the best)
Brawl is great, but Melee was a bit better (in terms of actual gameplay). We, my brother and I, got a mod, Project M, that makes Brawl play more like Melee. It fixed some of the broken characters (cough cough Meta Knight), balanced the characters better (cough cough Meta Knight), added some awesome alternate colors (Mr. L for Luigi, Shadow Queen for Peach, Virtual Boy for ROB, Pajama Versions for Toon Link and Ness, N64 Wolf, Dr. Mario, Dry Bowser, Melee designs for Fox, Falco, and Link). Then you can add custom skins and characters (we added Ridley and Waluigi as playable characters, and changed Wario into Mr. Krabs). Honestly, we've had Brawl since launch and we've never had as much fun as we did the last 2 days modding it (if you have a 2GB SD Card I'd recommend you get it, if you don't already).
If that's what they were aiming for I'd say they got it, but... I just don't think it was good... at all... ... ... I don't blame Nintendo for this game as much as I blame Team Ninja for it (which is why I'm a bit nervous about Hyrule Warriors, because they're helping with that game). I honestly just think Team Ninja just saw a hot girl in a space suit and knew they wanted to make a game (that's my theory).
Thanks, not sure if I'll ever get around to making it, but it is something that I think could be fun to do.
One thing I remember about the One was an ad where they were like, "You can use your PHONE to look things up ON THE XBOX" and I'm just like, "... OR you can just use your phone" I also remember E3 2013 when Nintendo was doing the whole "Play our E3 games at Best Buy" Microsoft hired people to go to the people waiting in line and advertise for the One... (I remember reading that somewhere, so I'm not sure if it's true, but it does sound like something they would do).
Really I just think that a game system should be used for games only (though I don't mind Netflix features that much).
But when it comes down to it, I'd rather not have either the PS4 or the Xbox One.
I remember going into a Gamestop the other day and seeing iPads, so I think that will happen.
What I like about discs is that you don't need all this memory to store everything on. I wanted to download Donkey Kong Country Returns on the 3DS as part of the Club Nintendo Platinum Rewards thing, but I didn't have enough memory on my SD card, so I couldn't get it. I could have bought the game on a cartridge cheaper than buying another SD card
Also, you can't show off a digital copy, you can't share a digital copy, and MOST importantly you can't sell a digital copy when you're bored with it or find out the game sucks.
So discs and cards are the way to go for me (but some games I'd consider going digital).
One pro I'll say about digital, digital copies can't get scratched up.
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