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Published: 2016-06-17 19:15:07 +0000 UTC; Views: 11396; Favourites: 134; Downloads: 19
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Is nobody going to talk about how it was raining in the trailer for Paper Mario Color Splash?I mean for Pete's sake, everything is made of paper!
I am not looking forward to Color Splash, I didn't like Sticker Star and this looks to be a sequel to that (looks more fun than Sticker star, but not enough to get the game).
Also, for a game all about color, the colors seem very dull...
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I was just thinking the same thing the rain has to be made out of paper cause they are perfectly fine standing there in the game
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so many comments hating on Colour Splash yet not a single comment about the picture.
You are all shallow and probably judged it just by the trailer and never watched a single playthrough of it.
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Honestly the people that defend this game seem more like a shallow than the actual people dissapointment with the game. They repeat the same tired old phrases about how people just can't stand change, or how you're just a blind ttyd fanboy if you don't like this and any type of pejorative and low adjetives.
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Fellow Color Splash hater? I recommend you take a look at this .
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i'm going to be honest I'm open for the paper Mario series to go this rootΒ
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As much of a disappointment Color Splash is... this is freaking hilarious.
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Odds are they're made of some sort of special water proof paper. Β I mean, look at the Princess Peach shower scenes from Thousand Year Door (the best one of the...either 4, 5, or 6 depending on whether you want to count Color Splash now and/or count Mario and Luigi Paper Jam, is that any good by the way/is better than Kirby Planet Robobot?).
Also, I'd be willing to give Color Splash a shot, granted if it is a continuation/follows mechanics similar to Sticker Star that might not help, but there could be a difference due to the transition from portable to console. Β Also, it looks like the Koopalings will be the world bosses and guardians of the 7 Maguffins for this one, so that could turn into something.
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I think Paper Jam is more of a Mario and Luigi game than it is Paper Mario. I haven't played it though, to be honest I actually forgot about it (I haven't played Robobot either, but I liked Triple Deluxe).
Maybe Color Splash could be good, but I don't think it'll be as good as the first 3, the best to hope for is better than Sticker Star.
The addition of the Koopalings actually give me less faith in it (Paper Mario had such unique bosses, now we're getting the Koopalings... Again... I don't hate the Koopalings, in fact I love them, but seeing them here makes me think the plot is going to be more of a generic Mario).
I can't judge it in full until I get my hands on it (and I don't know if that'll happen), but from what I've seen I'm not impressed.
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Ah. Β Fair enough.
Considering that Sticker Star was a handheld and everything else was a console, there could be hope for that. Β Hmm, I see your point, although this could possibly open up some new possibilities, such as the magic collectible being some sort of object that gives the wielder immense power and a costume change, so you'd have to fight them twice, once in their normal form, and again in their powered form (I would also accept that they'd be in different giant robot suits). Β There could also be a bonus where right before the final boss, you have to defeat them all once again, possibly in a group.
Yeah, let's withhold judgement until more is known and/or someone puts a lets play up online.
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Think Nintendo still has the potential to create a new Mario animated series that's better than the old one?
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It's possible.
I mean they made those Kid Icarus anime shorts and they were pretty good, and then made those Pikmin shorts and they were awesome, I'm sure they can apply it to Mario as well. Β Back when the Super Mario Bros Super Show was around they only had 2 games to base the series around (Super Mario Bros 1 and 2, then Super Mario Bros 3 and Super Mario World came out and they made shows about that). Β Now that the Mario universe has been better established and more fleshed out, I'm sure they could do a better show nowadays.
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I heard that people's problem with Color Splash was the fact that all the npcs have been replaced with lookalike Toads, (still is better than having the Koopalings being replaced by the Koopalings in Mario Party) so can you imagine the background characters in the Mario show having more variety than even the ones in Thousand Year Door?
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If a new Mario series were happening I would imagine that they would do the show in 3D instead of 2D, so I would think that the background characters would be pretty basic, but plot important, one-time, or reoccurring characters would have more of a unique design (maybe not to the extent of Thousand Year Door's designs, but rather like the Captain Toad and Toad Brigade).
((but I would much rather TYD like designs))
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I could see the show as more of an adaption expansion with more new characters introduced like the Toadlings toxicisland.deviantart.com/art⦠who are basically the rivals of the Koopalings. (yeah some of them look like something out of Adventure Time, but yeah that should be what the show universe background characters would be like)
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That would be interesting, I'd like to see more unique designs, but given Nintendo's track record of "playing it safe" I doubt they'd do that and stick to the basic designs.
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Well keep in mind Color Splash was made before Iwata's death and the new Nintendo president is planning to make things different as he said the Wii U was too similar to the Wii, and is trying to make the NX a whole new system, so it's likely he'll make the rules change for the new Mario Cartoon. Β Who do you want to see Nintendo team up with for the Mario cartoon?
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I have to ask, is there going to be a new Mario cartoon? You sound like there's a new Mario cartoon on the way, but I've heard nothing about it.
The problem I don't think is with Iwata or the new president (nor will it be fixed by him), I think it's Intelegent Systems putting more focus in Fire Emblem causing their other franchises to suffer more (just a theory, I don't have evidence to back this up, but it seems like that's the case).
I don't know, personally I think they should self-publish the cartoon like they did the Pikmin short because I don't know a network that would do it right (maybe Netflix?)
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I have heard Nintendo's new president is planning on making movies and TV shows based off their IPs with their first one coming in about 2-3 years.
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I've heard that, but I didn't hear anything on Mario specifically. I know that there are people who'd like to work with Mario (who wouldn't), but the only one I remember getting any progress was a Pokemon Movie.
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Yeah but Pokemon isn't entirely Nintendo and has had a lot of other movies in the past, just not any first party Nintendo IPs, but that's about to change with the new president.
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Yeah, it's mainly GameFreak's, but it's still part of Nintendo.
All the Pokemon Movies have been animes, what I hear is that they're making a live-action theatrical movie.
I know they have plans for other IP movies, but the most solid plans I've heard were for Pokemon (I don't doubt Mario will get a movie, I think I remember hearing Sony wanted to make it, and Universal is making a Nintendo themed area in their parks so they might make a movie, and then there was this www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTmK1p⦠from a few years ago, so it is on the table, I just haven't heard any major breakthroughs outside of Pokemon)
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Yeah I was thinking the TV show written by creator of Robot Chicken, Seth Green should come before the big animated Mario movie comes.
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For someone who absolutely hated Sticker Star, I found this amusing. I really wish they went back to the Paper Mario series' roots though, that would be nice...
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Same.
I played the original Paper Mario for 11 hours straight because I couldn't put it down it was so fun (I even got carpal tunnel from it). Β Sticker Star I played a few levels and got super bored.
The only thing I think Stick Star did right was give the whole world a paper craft theme, other than that, it sucked.
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Yeah, I did like the paper aesthetic of Sticker Star, which I got because I heard good things about the Paper Mario games before then, and I wanted to know what they were like... I was wondering when something interesting would happened, so I kept playing Sticker Star, but nothing happened, and what I saw so far was basically what I was going to get. I gave up halfway through world 3 because I thought the game was just so boring, and I never finished the game, probably never will.
I later found out why, because Miyamoto interfered with the production and forced everything to be stripped down into basically another NSMB rehash, which is what most of the Mario games lately seem to be.
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64 and Thousand Year Door were amazing, Super Paper Mario was good, Sticker Star stunk.
I remember getting to a Blooper Boss and then giving up when it said I needed like 30 special sponge stickers.
I hadn't heard that, but it makes sense why they would do it, but they shouldn't have.
What works for one feanchise shouldn't be applied to another. The reason why 64 and TYD are praised by the fans was because of how unique it was; interesting characters, good story telling, levels that weren't just Grass Land, Dessert Land, Water Land, Ice Land, Sky Land, Fire Land.
They shouldn't have changed it because of NSMB.
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Well, I feel Nintendo has forgotten why the very first Paper Mario game for the N64 was made. In Japan, the first Paper Mario is called "Mario Story" and it was made because Nintendo wanted to make a sequel to Super Mario RPG, but they couldn't due to the falling out between Nintendo and Square Enix, so Nintendo had to take things into their own hands.
What feels more offending is what one of the developers said about Color Splash in an interview, saying they wouldn't go back to the old RPG formula because the Mario and Luigi games existed, and they believed Nintendo only wanted one Mario RPG franchise, so M&L was kept and Paper Mario became what it is now. This is especially bad since many feel that even the M&L games are slowly going downhill as well.
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Yeah
What I feel they truly forgot about was that Paper Mario was all about characters and story.
64 told the same tale about Bowser kidnapping the princess, but it went way more in depth with the everything; you met characters along the way and learned who they are and what their stories were, you learned the legend of the star spirits, and they even gave Peach a story about being trapped in the castle.
Thousand Year Door did all of that again, but it a different way; they added a new villain who kidnaps the princess, you meet way more characters along the way, they gave each boss characteristics and stories, they gave Bowser a story, they even gave Luigi a story despite him not being in anyway involved with the plot (some of these apply to the original game too, but it was more apparent here).
Super Paper Mario was ALL about the story of theΒ Tippi and Count Bleck and the end of the universe.
Sticker Star (from what I played) was just Bowser found out how to control stickers or something and stole the princess, Mario goes to save her, the end.
Paper Mario is very story driven (I mean you said so yourself it's called Mario's Story in Japan), I feel like they forgot about that.
(Also the RPG elements and partner system played a huge part as well).
I heard that too.
I liked Mario and Luigi's first two games, Partner's in Time was amazing IMO, but then after Bowser's Inside Story they just kinda stunk (Dream Team was better, but I still got bored of that).
Dumb Fact:Β Bowser's Inside Story was the first and only Mario game that I had to return because I hated it so much (I still have Sticker Star despite my dislike for it).
But while I liked those games, I loved Paper Mario more, so it saddens me to hear that..
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it KIIIINNDDAA did. emphasis on "KIIINDA".
there's enemy cards in the game that once you use them, they
become your partner for that battle.Β
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But what fun is that without the fun designs and personalities of the partners from 64 or TYD
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even though sticker star was an abomination. im honestly kinda looking forward to this.
yes, it's no-where near as good as the first 3, but we still need to have our minds open to change, good or bad.
instead of complaining about what it isn't, try to focus on what it does offer to the table. some parts of the new trailer
showed off some pretty creative stuff. like riding a dragon in lava, or that
shy guy rolling up the level behind you.
also this is off topic but i noticed that battles aren;t pointless this time.
it doesn't level you up however, but it levels up your paint somehow. probably
your paint compacity? idk
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Visually this is the best Paper Mario (though the colors do seem a bit dull to me, but ti still looks good), I did like that part where the spilled paint brought the dragon bones back to life, and the fighting mechanic doesn't seem TOO bad, it might be interesting and it's definitely unique, but having to keep track of your paint AND your attack cards seems awful (I wouldn't hate it so much if it were just keeping tack of your paint; like, "you can only use this move if you have enough paint" not "you can only use a basic attack if you have the card for it and have enough paint to use it").
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yeah, it does seem a bit much, but if one can get used to star fox zero's controls, they can
control anything XD even though sticker star was awful, i found that the sticker mechanic
had alot of great potential.....that they didn't get right in any way....if they at least brought levels back
into paper mario, it'd fix a few problems imo. but they said they're considering to remaster the thousand
year door, so we'll have that at least?Β
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Haven't played Star Fox Zero yet, but I heard the controls were weird.
The sticker mechanic had potential, but it should have been used more for special attacks, not basic ones like jumping (IMO)
Another thing I think Sticker Star did right was that they really played up the paper aspect of the series; TYD had the origami moves, but that game really made the characters feel like they were paper (I remember seeing a Toad with aΒ crease that would flop around when he moved and thought that it was great). Β If they could combine that level of thinking with the designs, character, and story like the first 2 games I think we'd have the greatest Paper Mario ever.
I would like a remaster of TYD I haven't played it in a LONG time, plus if the remaster does well maybe Nintendo would make the next Paper Mario game based more around that. Β Sounds like a good idea to me, lets hope they do that.
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yeah i agree. though i kinda hope they
get story elements like super paper mario (IMO)
mainly because that even though that game was different, i still accepted it
because mario has mostly been a platformer, and the story was so
beautiful and heart wrentching, i feel like if they can get gameplay from the
first two and a dark/feelsy story like in 3, we can have a perfect paper mario game
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Yeah, story is really important to the Paper Mario series, that's one of the reasons why I didn't like Sticker Star (the story was just Bowser kidnaps princess, Mario saves her, the end).
I liked Super Paper Mario, I didn't love it like the other 2 games before it, but it was still a good game with a great story.
I don't know how good the story of Color Splash is going to be, but so far it's not very gripping.
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Yeah, I'm hoping for a twist that it isn't bowser but it's a new villain, and the koopalings are just under his control?
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I'm pretty sure it's just Bowser again...
BUT there is a slight chance that maybe it could be somebody new.
Maybe, because the enemies that suck the Toad's dry is a Shy Guy, maybe, just maybe, it's Wart as the villain (but I doubt it).
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At the very least maybe a new villain helping bowser out. Like showing him sucking color out of the world could benefit him? Then maybe betrays bowser at the end? Or vise versa
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I think Bowser would get betrayed, makes more sense.
It does make me wonder why Bowser would want color, I mean what would he use color for? Maybe there is a new villain helping him out.
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probably the same reason he needs fairies or Sticker crowns XD
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