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Published: 2016-08-15 20:16:05 +0000 UTC; Views: 13847; Favourites: 607; Downloads: 67
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Now that sabertooths are somewhat trending, I just wanted to help you avoid the most common mistakes I see.To do that, I abused the hell out of Wikimedia Commons and, not proud of that, even of Mr. Antóns beautiful Smilodon head reconstruction for proportions. Go buy his books, they're the best thing there is on sabertooths!
And of course, species differences apply, but the general trend is true for most of them.
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dropkiick [2020-02-04 09:21:45 +0000 UTC]
ah, thank god i found this, cause I was wondering about the lower canines <3
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Tacimur In reply to dropkiick [2020-02-05 16:11:26 +0000 UTC]
Thanks! These days though there's a 6th one that I see more than most of the others, and that's people bending the saberfangs outwards like the tusks of wild boars or something. Nnnooooooo
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dropkiick In reply to Tacimur [2020-02-05 17:49:02 +0000 UTC]
naw, you're kidding? why would they ;____;
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Tacimur In reply to Spottyleopar [2019-03-12 06:31:11 +0000 UTC]
That the skull and snout, especially in homotheres, was extremely long and unusual looking to our eyes ^^
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Falcolf [2017-12-04 03:50:27 +0000 UTC]
This is awesome, love the name lol. Thank you for making this.
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Tacimur In reply to Falcolf [2017-12-09 13:54:39 +0000 UTC]
X) No problem! If I could, I'd go back and add one now: don't bend the fangs outwards like boar tusks, that's one that a lot of people do for some reason.
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Falcolf In reply to Tacimur [2017-12-11 01:28:22 +0000 UTC]
Maybe they're emulating The Croods? At least that movie had an excuse sort of though, all the animals in that movie were funky hybrids.
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Trainwrekcomics [2016-08-31 22:55:38 +0000 UTC]
Ah, but what if someone wants to make a monster/creature based ON a smilodon? Then would it not be ok to make those mistakes for the sake of artistic innovation?
Also, smilodons are trending?
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Tacimur In reply to Trainwrekcomics [2016-09-01 08:04:17 +0000 UTC]
Yup, trending a lot!
Fantasy art really has no rules I guess. Depends on if you want an anatomically sound creature or just one that looks hardcore. This was only made to point out things to people that they probably didn't know.
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Trainwrekcomics In reply to Tacimur [2016-09-01 13:36:12 +0000 UTC]
Huh. Ya learn something new everyday, right?
That's true! And this is still a good tutorial regardless!
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lizziecat1279 [2016-08-18 13:54:12 +0000 UTC]
They've also discovered that smilodon fangs don't have certain proteins that would allow for them to be tusklike (walrus and other tusked mammals have a certain protein in their tusks that makes it so that they can handle weathering) so even though they look significantly sillier, saber toothed felines likely would have had absurd jowls covering their fangs!
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Nuclearzeon2 In reply to lizziecat1279 [2016-10-09 18:54:27 +0000 UTC]
Mark Witton actually talked about that in his latest blog post. He isn't convinced.
markwitton-com.blogspot.co.uk/…
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lizziecat1279 In reply to Nuclearzeon2 [2016-10-09 20:00:31 +0000 UTC]
Aaaah alright that's fair
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acepredator In reply to lizziecat1279 [2016-09-09 23:08:47 +0000 UTC]
Not absurd jowls, more likely a sheath
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Tacimur In reply to lizziecat1279 [2016-08-18 15:35:06 +0000 UTC]
Nah, the last word on this hasn't been spoken by far. Right now, it's only a new idea, like the 60s idea of sabers needing squashed noses in order to breathe while biting. Once this gets submitted as a scientific paper and thoroughly discussed, I'll roll with whatever result it yields. ^^
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AVCDPS In reply to Tacimur [2016-09-15 23:37:52 +0000 UTC]
It's still very likely their teeth were in sheaths or under large bowels when their mouth was closed. There aren't any modern carnivorans with exposed teeth except for Walrus, as said above they have certain proteins for this.
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Tacimur In reply to AVCDPS [2016-09-16 05:29:44 +0000 UTC]
Yes, it's an interesting hypothesis, but I wonder why people get so borderline preachy about this all of a sudden. That's unusual.
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RulerOfLions In reply to Tacimur [2016-10-06 21:30:43 +0000 UTC]
Love the artwork, Tacimur!
By the way, I call BS on the jowled canines, because they're an impractical model, and not a valid counterexample to the traditional way sabertooth canines are portrayed.
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lizziecat1279 In reply to Tacimur [2016-08-19 06:12:23 +0000 UTC]
Aaaaahh I thought it was a Fact woops that'll teach me to trust tumblr posts at face value (it was just such a cute idea that I loved it)
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Tacimur In reply to Wyatt-Andrews-Art [2016-08-18 15:37:27 +0000 UTC]
Yay, glad you think so!
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werewolfs-curse [2016-08-16 12:44:02 +0000 UTC]
Just from a historical side this is so nice lol also helpful
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Tacimur In reply to werewolfs-curse [2016-08-16 15:16:29 +0000 UTC]
I'm glad you think so, thanks!
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Chaluny [2016-08-16 09:27:03 +0000 UTC]
Ah, interessant!
Am meisten überraschen mich da die Zähne.
Die hätte ich wahrscheinlich auch eher wie bei standartmiezen gemalt.
Aber dass die so zackig sind ist ulkig. Da haben die Ice Age Leute das voll richtig gemacht
Is'n cooler guide
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Tacimur In reply to Chaluny [2016-08-16 10:03:20 +0000 UTC]
Danke!
Wenn du dich in Sachen zackige Zähne richtig abschießen willst, dann google mal Bilder vom Schädel von Xenosmilus.
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RisendeCabre [2016-08-16 07:15:45 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for this! I definitely don't mind some extra pointers on drawing the great saber-cats (I've been guilty of the non-banana-head one just a tad). x3 Luckily I haven't really seen many other mistakes on anatomy like that. Who draws the saber-teeth backwards? o.O Just yikes.
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Tacimur In reply to RisendeCabre [2016-08-16 07:34:49 +0000 UTC]
The backwards fangs pop up a lot, especially when people don't draw straight side views and get confused by the perspective, so they just curve the fangs around the muzzle somehow.
Haha, at first I had a hard time embracing the banana shape as well, but if that's how nature was, I wasn't going to argue with it. ^^ I don't think there's anything wrong with designing 'cuter' sabertooth cats, as long as you know that you're entering fantasy territory, weakening your kitty's bite and don't claim to represent an actual species (the latter being more of a pet peeve of mine). Of course I'd rather see people go for the correct shape, but hey, it's a free world.
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Rinworks [2016-08-16 05:40:58 +0000 UTC]
Thank you for this great and insightful tips sheet Very helpful!
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Tacimur In reply to Rinworks [2016-08-16 07:58:01 +0000 UTC]
Thanks! May it lead to lots of pretty sketches of biteycats!
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tkmmilpmsalo [2016-08-16 03:55:47 +0000 UTC]
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VioletWhirlwind [2016-08-16 03:42:32 +0000 UTC]
That forward-curving tooth...XD what the heck. I won't claim to have the best anatomy-knowledge, but...even I know the teeth don't curve forwards. XD
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by 'banana head' though...
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Tacimur In reply to VioletWhirlwind [2016-08-16 05:22:31 +0000 UTC]
The forward curving tooth gets drawn so often o.o especially when people get confused by the perspective.
What I mean by 'banana head' is that their heads were long and straight generally, even more than in any of today's big cats. Some were so straight that they almost have an inverted curve. Here's some more extreme examples: prehistoric-fauna.com/Homother… s53.photobucket.com/user/Tiger… pikaia.eu/wp-content/uploads/2…
These, however, are all homotheres. Smilodon was a bit more moderate in its shape - but not that much.
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Miynxe [2016-08-16 01:49:53 +0000 UTC]
Its actually pretty possible that sabertooths also had big ol jowels covering up their teeth! Saber saint bernards basically.
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Tacimur In reply to Miynxe [2016-08-16 05:24:15 +0000 UTC]
I'll just wait until that gets made into an actual scientific paper and gets the discussion it needs. If it's accepted, then I'll accept it too. Until then, I'll just stick to the traditional way, the look of the saint bernard ones freaks me out a bit.
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