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~Annie Leonhardt and Berthold Hoover, Attack on TitanJust in time for episode 21, my feelings cannot be contained at the moment!
This is a sequel to: terra7.deviantart.com/art/AoT-…
Events take place following Annie's escape from captivity in Wall Sina. Which soldier struck her the blow --was it Revaille, for the sake of his fallen comrades, or Mikasa, out of retribution for her family? Moreover, what will Berthold, who risks becoming even more alone, do?
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Oh, wow, this sure is sad, but still Annie would survive, she has titan powers she can heal herself, I still like the art its beautiful, I like to seeing both of them, cuz I ship them XD
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noooo!!! How could you! by the way Your draw is by far the best I seen in devianart. Are you going to continue with Annie and Berthold Fan art? please, say yes!!!
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Thank you! I'm not sure, I might. I do have a lot of unfinished art of the two, but I rarely post unfinished work. I'll have to get to it! =]
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This i can see happening...it would suck but i can see it happening.
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Nooooo you killed her!
Poor Bert
Good job all the same though.
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I didn't confirm it so maybe she's still alive?
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I hope she is. Poor Bert 
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OMG ;-; May I post this on Tumblr? I'll credit you! ;u;
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Actually, I have a Tumblr account, you can reblog it from that. :]
terra-7.tumblr.com/
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Ahh! Thank you ;u; I love your BeruAni art!
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Thanks! :] By the way, is your icon Anna from Frozen? It's great!
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Yes it is C: I didn't make it though xD
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Still, it's a good choice! :]
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Alright, but can you give me credit?
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This was drawn before I knew about the shifter's regenerative powers, heh.
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Agh your gorgeous art is killing me. Right in the feels.
I really hope this doesn't happen, but these guys are surrounded by so much tragedy and pain, by them, for them, and against them, I can't say.
I wan them to make it so bad. ;A;
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I hope they make it. The creator can't kill everybody, who'll be left to push the story forward then?
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Oh sure yeah they are very relevant to the story, i'm just afraid when all is said and done revenge will show it's ugly face and strike them down. Or they end up being too tortured emotionally and give up. They are pretty messed up as it is. Poor child warriors. 
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I think the plot should be less predictable, so I'm going for no revenge-driven motives against the anti-heroes.
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I hope so too, i don't like pointless revenge or the "poetic justice" some creators are prone to. Of course my opinion of it all is biased because i like these characters so much. But the author has done pretty well so far so i have faith he'll do a proper development and finale.
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I'm completely biased towards these three, for the same reasons. :]
I've heard that SNK is planned for 20 volumes. That means we're over half way through the story. I'm not sure if that's a good or a bad thing, given how little we know about the plot, let alone who is fighting who. :S
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Well, hopefully he has it all thought out. Mmm... yeah. Right now there are only a truckload of questions and no answers, but I have a feeling that when the answers do start coming everything will fall into place and suddenly all will make sense (and when we read the manga again, we'll see the little details that indicated towards those answers all along. I love it when that happens). I reckon the author has the answers figured out (unlike what happens in some tv series, where they keep changing the plot as they go along :/), he just wants to see us grovel in suspense for a bit longer (nothing wrong with that, keeps us very well damn interested).
Plus if he feels he is running out of space to finish the story he can very well add another volume or add a couple or so pages to the last chapters. No one is going to complain, really.
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I don't think the answers will be a big revelation, just facts that you react a little indifferently to (kind of like the truth about the titans in chapter 51). I could be very wrong though! Personally, I'd like to know more about Annie, Reiner, and Berthold's village -how they're involved with the titan formula, what they are fighting for. I mean, we know the man running the walled cities (the King) is so loose, everything slips by his line of sight -taxation, land appropriation, corruption, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if it was an "outsider" vs. "insider" kind of struggle -what one has vs. what the other doesn't and wants.
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Nah, the titan revelation on page 51 was just a snippet of information, i mean, the titans had to come from somewhere. So they are a mix of... mm... thin air and humans. Okay. Fine. My theory is that a hundred and whatnot years ago somebody decided to turn humans into weapons... against humans. And it might have gotten out of hand. But then where does the monkey-titan fit in? :/
Could be that after the same weaponazing formula-thingy that turned humans into titans, for the past hundred years, they've been developping another one that turns humans into "controllable" titans, allowing them to keep their humanity. Maybe Eren's father was involved in all this. He did inject Eren with something. And just very recently they've been successful (with Annie, Bert and Reiner), but there might have been some previous failed attempts (Ymir).
All this must have been very hush-hush or else someone would have noticed the titans running around within the walls.
Yep, i also believe that in the RAB trio's case there might be a social angle. Nobody wants death for no reason. There's a plan for sure. Could be knocking down the established highly corrupted order. After all, they come from the poorest part within the walls. ARGHFXS... I want to know so bad! There's also the fact they need: information (Historia) and Eren's abilities (Titan control). So yeah, i think they are fighting for the right side. They want to achieve something. And it has to be damn fricking important for them to risk so much. It's probably more than just social, though. I think they are also looking for a way to defeat the titans once and for all. Of course, both religious fanatics and upper/noble class are living quite comfortably and want nothing to change. So they have to rebel and operate outside the law and against the government. Sadly, that means against the military too, so against their own comrades. T_T
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I think that's the story: using humans as weapons against one another. Titans being unable to reproduce is evidence that they were artificially created, and with a guaranteed method of population control. The issue is, who is making more of them? Are intelligent titans making more titans (Ape titan)?
I think a person's ability to control a titan depends of their mental strength. Eren, Annie, and Reiner are very focused and mentally strong individuals. Bert is skilled at coping with trauma, he would fit here as well. Ymir acts for herself, it's possible that what she wanted coincided with the titan urges, hence a sort of truce between the "monster" and the "human", though I'm not suggesting that they have split personalities, just that humans tend to loose reason and devour when they go titan (which is what we don't observe with these guys, save for Ymir).
From what I recall reading, titan trio are from a village south-east of the walls [outsiders]. It's interesting that Eren and Annie share the Titan Control ability, save Eren can do it in human form (unless there's something we don't know about Annie). I think it's a political struggle (breaking free from the dominance imposed by the guys living safely in the walls). Or something as simple as "we-want-the-protection-of-the-walls-but-you-deem-us-unworthy-as-outsiders-we-are-forced-to-clash-in-combat-to-stand-a-chance-at-survival". If it is a case like this, I think it's majorly underplayed in the current plot.
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It's the most plausible explanation. We'll have to wait and see (the ape-titan still bugs me, though).
It's also important to note they turn into very different titans. I guess Bert's is the most impressive, how much will-power do you need to turn into such a gigantic mass of flesh? It's probably very taxing on him, that's why he doesn't turn often nor for very long, and sometimes only turns partially. Maybe he is also afraid he will lose control? Dunno.
And then there's Ymir's. Hers is not as big or as impressive as the other's and it looks more feral. That's why i though she might have been a failed experiment. Yeah, she's not involved with the trio's cause. I think she just got the ability but wasn't able to control the titan or lost control (neither could Eren the second time he shifted, good thing Armin snapped him out of it). And once she regained it, decided to live on and eventually took Krista as her protegée. Like Eren, she can't remember what she did as a titan. I wonder if this happens to all of them? Maybe Bert and Reiner can't remeber knocking down the walls? They just knew the had to do it, and did it. Maybe you gain better control and further consciousness with time?
OooOOooh. I see what you mean, now! That would make so much sense! It's believed that Bert, Reiner and Annie came from a village in the mountains, but i understood it was within wall Maria. But they could have come from the outside! Sneaking in when the wall was broken and posing as refugees. That would be so neat. A tiny portion of humanity living in precarious and terrible conditions outside the walls. Left behind when they were built with titan power. Forgotten though misinformation and censoring politics. And now these "outsiders" have finally managed to take control of this titan power and through these child-warriors they are going to exact their revenge. But the Survey Corps go outside the walls, wouldn't they know about them? Well, the outsiders probably would have hid from them, fearing they military might be out there to get them, not to do recon tasks.
*Massages non-existent beard thoughtfully*
The appearance of these intelligent ape-titans might have been what pushed them over the edge.
Wow, these is just speculation, we might be very wrong, but this is really interesting.
Annie's titan-control powers are not near as powerful as Eren's. Eren is clearly a key player in their plot. Now at least. Now that they know he is the "coordinate" (whatever that means). But they also want Krista's information, this makes me think it's about a lot more than just destroying the status quo. I think some factions of the Government/Church know how to destroy the titans and the trio is desperately seeking out this information. This information is also what the Survey corps wants right now, but being part of the military institution ordered by the very forces the trio seeks to destroy, they just can't trust them.
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Hey! I'm back! Sorry it took so long to reply! Happy Holidays!!!
Hmm, that Ape Titan. There's really no clues about his identity yet, but he's clearly a titan shifter. I'm not too familiar with the plot post-anime (I haven't read too much of the manga) but I know that he kills Mike and Nanaba.
That's an interesting point. Titan shifters likely keep their memories of what they experience as a titan with increased skill (i.e. why Eren couldn't recall being a titan the first few times he transformed but why he recalled sparing Annie, because of his shock to see her crying). Something interesting about the titan trio was revealed in the last chapter. Now, it may be a bad translation, but Armin stated that Annie, Reiner, and Bert were sided with the corrupted individuals inside Wall Sina, the ones who killed Pastor Nick. This is interesting in light of Annie's father. It's unlikely that he's just a rural farmer, possessing a level of combat that even the trainees in 104 don't get taught. I think he's actually an "insider", potentially one of the guys from the clique that killed Pastor Nick, and was either exiled from Sina or willingly left at an earlier date. As to the aspirations of Annie and gang (recall they wanted to live the safe life in Sina), it's possible that their goal might have been to re-establish contact with the corrupted guys in Sina (hence "going to Sina"). It's also odd how Reiner states the mission objectives have changed, and that breaking the walls in no longer their goal. Who told them their new mission parameters? They must be conspiring with more individuals inside the walls (Annie was sneaking around to discern the motivations of the Wall Cult at one point, when she tailed them and learned that they were seeking Krista).
I'm not sure what the extent of Annie's or Eren's titan-control powers are, we just know that they can control them. All good points about the factions, I just wish Isayama would reveal more information. The plot really needs it right now.
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No problem! You know you don't have to do this, so i really appreciate your interest! :3
Yeah Happy Holidays and New Year to you too!
Hmm, the ape titan acted really strange, i'm not all that sure he is a shifter. Maybe titans, once human, then monsters, are now regaining some form of intelligence and are now neither one nor the other? :/ The thing is the Ape Titan talked (something none of the titan shifters has ever done in titan form, i think, but i have to read the manga again) and he was curious about the 3D gear. He didn't know what it was. Myabe i'm assuming too much but i'd think a human would definitely know what it was at least.
Yeah he kills Mike and Nanaba. TT^TT (i really liked those two)
Hm, i think there two factions at play here, yes. First there is the titan trio and whoever's giving them orders (i don't think they are working alone, they clearly don't want to do this but they feel they must), then there's the established order, the keepers of secrets, the ones the trio wanted to keep an eye on (probably a mix of nobility, cultists and high ranking military officials?) and caught in the middle is the Survey Corps. To them, both are enemies so they might get them mixed together but i think their goals are very different.
Annie's father being an exilee would make a lot of sense. And giving your daughter this horrific task and gruelling her with such training he must have felt the mission he gave her was really really important (also, headcannon of mine, Annie's mother probably died when Annie was young, so all her childhood has been about her father's mission (he still loved her though), hence her "unloving" attitude (she probably didn't get much, if any, cuddling) and the messy buns (no one there to do her hair and fawn over her)).
And of what the trio said about their goals, it's hard to tell what was truth and what were lies. Maybe their primary objective was: 1. Destroy Wall Maria 2. Train with the military and graduate in the first ten 3. Destroy Wall Rose 4. Join the Military Police, that way they would be in inside wall Sina with the remaining wall-dwelling humans, thus having access to conspirators and enemies alike, and then tease out the information they needed (about the coordinate and all that). But when Eren appeared, the stopped destroying Maria and capturing Eren became their primary objective.
I don't think they ever hoped to live a peaceful life inside wall Sina. That was their cover-up story. Just like when Bert is talking about how they didn't know the wall was broken and he heard the animals being restless and all that. Of course he knew the wall was broken, he was the one who broke it after all.
Yeah, Isayama is playing the "Lost" card. He wants to keep us wondering as much as possible. Giving little bits of info and then adding a couple more questions. The truth is, i don't mind at all, but i do hope everything does make sense in the end. I think he's just going let the most important questions pile up until the Big Reveal (kind of like in the last chapters: he just dumped the fact the Bert and Reiner were titans on us and then pandemonium ensued in a crazy spiral of shifting and chases). Well, he has us hooked, so we'll see.
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You are very nice and polite, I really enjoy chatting!
That's an interesting theory, that titans may be gaining intelligence and developing abilities such as speech. If the Ape Titan is a shifter, I imagine he could be a mountaineer, someone not familiar with the gear of "insiders" (Wall citizens). Poor Mike and Nanaba, I also liked those two. Mike fought as best as he could, he has my deep respect.
Interesting, I also imagine Annie's mother to have died when she was very young. This would explain why her father trained her, which I doubt any mother would have allowed in respect to her daughter. Good point about the hair too, she was likely never taught all things typical for a lady (although she seems to expect a level of "gentlemanly" respect, from Eren especially, going back to the "learning how to talk to a lady" speech of hers).
Going by what Reiner revealed, their mission changed from destroying humanity within the walls (hence breaking the walls) to locating/ capturing the "coordinates"/ Eren/ Krista. I've always wondered who fed them intel for the missions though.
It's hard to tell if Bert and Reiner really wanted to reside in Sina, you're right, it could have been lies. Annie, on the other hand, I think hoped to live that care-free life there (thought she knew circumstances would never permit). I don't think she had an intention to go back to her father after Eren's capture, given that it took the flash-backs in episode 25 to make her realize that he truly wanted her to come home, not because of a mission but because he loved her as a father. Ah, I interpreted what Bert said totally differently. I thought he was referring to an arbitrary titan attack on their village, not following the fall of Wall Maria.
I don't think what Isayama has planned is very complicated. I feel the plot will be pretty simple (sort of how anti-climatically the manga revealed that Reiner and Bert were titans). We'll see. :]
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Hur, thanks (gah, you are really nice)!
Of course the shifter is important to consider too. But then you have to wonder about the strange appearance (maybe it is related to something? Skinless (the trio), with skin (Ymir, Eren, the rest) and fluffy (the ape titan) does mean something? Does say something of the origin of the titan? Dunno). He is also somewhat able to control the other titans too and has no regard for them. He is just a big question mark! O_o
Well, i bet her father was nobility or something like that, unlike Bert and Reiner, i've never she felt she was raised in a crass/rough environment. Her father probably taught her about lady-manners and politeness.
Oh i'm sure they are not working alone. There are bigger fish out there and i'm sure Eren's father has something to with them (is working with them or fighting against them, whichever, i'm sure he is a key piece too in all this and we haven't seen the last of him yet).
Well, it's true that Annie seemed pretty reluctant to capture Eren (but i can't tell if it was because she didn't want to fight Eren or because she didn't like her whole mission one bit). Well she's just a girl. It would be dumb not think she had dreams of her own, they might have been of living a peaceful life inside Sina. Poor her.
Yes maybe Bert was telling the truth. Something did make him, Bert and Marcel orphans, running around alone in an area with titans (where they met titan-ymir), but i don't think it was during the fall of wall Maria. Might have been when they were young, when they still had a home and a family.
I am hoping it's not too complicated, the more complex it is the easier it is to mess it up. :/ Yeah, i feel the missing pieces will be dumped all at once and there will be a lot of hard-pacted action as a consequence and that will be that. XD
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Aww, thanks!
Didn't titan Annie have skin in the manga? I assumed the anime changed it was for the sake of a richer colour palette. Oh, that's right! I forgot that the Ape Titan could control other titans. At this stage it seems that certain individuals (titan shifters) can maintain the control that we mentioned, while others simply get absorbed into the titan and eventually fully fuse with it (Hanji made mention of this).
There's this theory still floating around that Erwin is Annie's father. But if that were the case, why would he compromise his own daughter by ordering the mission to capture her? I don't think that theory is too valid, but it's still possible. Oddly enough, the anime depicts her father as being older than in the manga (voice/ appearance w/ blondish-grey hair vs. dark hair).
I wish we knew what was in the basement. I'm thinking a titan serum (cure or shift formula). Does Bert have a brother (you mentioned a Marcel)?
True, but I don't think it will be complicated. It wasn't shocking to find out that titans were once humans.
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Oh yeah, that's right, Annie's Titan did have skin in the manga. Hmmm. I guess their external appearance doesn't mean all that much (unless it's linked to their abilities, maybe because of the Colossal's size the skin is a commodity it cannot afford, and that's why it's skinless?). Oh you are absolutely right, i knew the titans were humans before but yeah i guess i never stopped to think how that happened. You think they shift just like our Teen Titans? Get surrounded by masses of light flesh and eventually disappear into the titan (unlike our shifters)? Then the three-meter classes would be mostly human, very little titan? Hmmm...
Haha, whaaat? No way! I just think people are a little confused because the main characters don't stand out with weird colored hair and crazy hairdos. So they just go ahead and dump all the blondes into one bag.
As far as i am concerned, it's more likely that Annie is Armin's sister than Erwin's daughter. Erwin has been commander for a while, his life isn't secret. How could he train a little girl in a remote place and no one know? And then, the mission during the Female Titan Arc, supposedly meant to go to Eren's basement, was clearly meant to weed out and capture one of the traitors (which happend to be the Female Titan, but i can bet my pinkie Erwin was prepared for the armored or the colossal), that's why they had wagons full of hook barrels and nets. Their mission was to capture a shifter all along. If Erwin was Annie's father, he would never have gone after her like that. What would have been the point, if they share the same goal?
And now consider my other theory: that Armin is Annie's brother. First, we know nothing about Armin's parents: they went outside the walls (or wanted to) and left the care of their little boy to his grandfather. Annie is two years older than Armin (i think), who says they hadn't had a girl before, had taken her outside the walls, wanted to do the same with their boy but got eaten/killed during one of their skirmishes. Annie did treat him with incredible care as the Female Titan, checking that he was alright, taking his comments to heart. (I think this is more plausible but again not true, and it would make the AnniexArmin shippers veeeeery mad XD).
No no, Marcel (he had another weirder sounding name before i can't remember) is the friend (of Bert and Reiner) that gets eaten by titan-Ymir (which makes her go back to human).
Ah the basement. Damn, who knows? I mean, we don't know what happened to Eren's father, but he's probably alive (he did inject something into Eren and gave him the key after the fall of wall Maria). It could be a trap even! We don't know whose side is he on yet. And if the basement is deserted, there is probably what you said: the serum that turns humans into shifters and the answer to how humans turn into titans.
I do believe Ymir, Reiner and Bert are going to be in Shingashina in the next chapter, at least they were on top of the wall there (although the translations might have been conviniently manipulated). Wil they go to the basement?
Yeah, when there was a paralyzed titan that just so happen to look like Connie's mom lying on top of his house, titans once being human became a very obvious possiblity. XD If they don't have sexual organs and don't breed, they must come from somewhere and "thin air" is a bit too ludicrous. The really interesting question is: what makes them transform into a titan? Because it's clearly not by ingestion or any form of contact apparently. O_o
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I think their abilities relate to their personalities/ character. Reiner, the tough guy, gets the armour; Bert, who lives in the shadow of Reiner and never acts on his own can arguably be called "skinless", hence his skinless titan form (the colossal part is pretty self explanatory, haha); Annie, who hardens herself to endure life, gets the "crystallization armour" on demand. Eren... well, there's nothing too special about his titan form, but that's not a bad thing.
I'm not familiar with that theory, about Annie and Armin being related. I don't think it's likely though. Armin moved (and unsettled) Annie when he called her a "nice person", Annie having previously considered herself to be like the self-centered scum of the Military Police. It's why she didn't kill him, it awakened possibilities in her --possibilities that she could be someone else, possibilities that she didn't have to do the mission, possibilities that she could be friends with her comrades. These aren't things that come easy to her, it's why I think she was so reluctant to dispose of him in particular, not because they were related. Then again, she didn't kill Mikasa (choosing to ignore her when she fell in episode 24), nor did she kill Jean, and went so far as to save Connie and him in episode 13, so I don't think sparing Armin (she spared other people that she knew personally) was an exclusive action.
That was Berick, no? Berthold's best friend, who died as a result of Ymir.
Do Bert, Reiner and Ymir actually know the location of Eren's house? XD I'm just curious because Erwin likely doesn't make that information publically available.
To me, the lack of reproductive organs is an indication of artificial tempering, a means of "population control". A mechanism to keep the titan threat from completely outnumbering humanity if they ever got out of hand (I'd say they did). So I'm not surprised that a titan formula is responsible for these very unfriendly guys! I'm curious how they've been conditioned to devour humans and not other titans (unless a titan shifter can order otherwise, i.e. those titan-controlling "battle cries").
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Yeah, that's interesting, they do relate somewaht to their personalities. And Ymir, the wildling, has a feral-looking titan and Eren gets a wide mouthed titan because he likes yelling so much.
No, no, i don't think Armin and Annie are related, i just think that it's as likely as Erwin being Annie's father (that is to say, unlikely). But i really like what you say about Annie envisioning other possibilities when talking to Armin. She probably hates herself somewhat (for being weak, for being different) and tries to show how mean and unworthy she is, so having somebody saying that she is nice, or thanking her, baffles her every time. I guess she was ready for enmity but not for friendship. And yeah, she is surprisingly careful not to harm anyone she knows, and was even reluctant to hurt Eren (in the battle of the forest of giant trees, before she delivers the final kick, she closes her yes as if she were reminding herself of what she had to do and why).
Oh sorry yes, that's the guy, both names, Berrick and Marcel, were swivelling around tumblr and Marcel was the only one i remembered.
Haha, i don't know, but they could! I mean, Eren and Armin were pretty chummy with Bert and Reiner at the very beginning (although it was because Eren wanted to learn how to balance himself better), they had a midnight walk in the woods and everything. I think Eren liked them, they were good soldiers and nice people. They might have chatted more, probably enough to reveal, at least partially, the location of Eren's house (at the front, up hill, left of the main road, etc.).
Ah yeah, absolutely. If they bred, it would be terrible. Yes, my theory is also that someone created a formula that turns humans into titans, most likely to be used as a weapon, maybe both fighting forces got hold of the formula, dumped them in food or water supplies, and it was like an epidemic. Or maybe it was a super-soldier project that went horribly wrong. Doesn't matter, a hundred years ago, somebody messed up reaaaaal bad.
I guess they made the titans (through trial an error, if it really was meant as a weapon) have one basic need (although they really don't need it), which is to consume humans (leaving the need to eat, it being so basic, was probably quite easy, and then they stopped them from seeing anything other than humans as food, so edible wise, they regard other living thinks like we would regard dirt or rocks, not yummy at all) . Then some unforeseen things happen (i guess it depends on the human that once was), and abnormal behaviours take place. But a very important feature they wanted the titans to have was that they could be controlled (like Eren, Annie and the Ape Titan, sort of can). But maybe the "titan handlers" failed or were killed and all hell broke lose. Whatever happened, the government in wall Sina is very intent on keeping it secret.
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That makes perfect sense for Ymir and Eren, especially Eren! It's what I'm telling my friends from now on, haha.
Agreed. Annie emotionally readies herself or what has to be done. You can tell by the look in her eyes before and after the kick, almost like she's saying "it's a shame, but it is what it is". I think she would have liked to stay friends with Eren. Sadly, whatever it was in their dynamic that held her interest couldn't take priority over the mission. :[
We can forgive Berrik for not being around; Annie would frown at the prospect of another guy in the "trio", two guys being enough! Actually... Reiner alone being enough! Bertholt, for the life of him, doesn't see to cause her problems. Except staring, but that's not so bad.
We'll just have to wait and see what Isayama has up his sleeve. 53 chapters in, I feel like the plot really needs to pick up now. What do you think of Revaille's future role? I agree with the argument that he's more a plot "device" than a plot "character", in that he pushed the story and Eren's character development rather that his own.
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Haha! Okay! XD
Yep, absolutely. That's why i really hate it when people go all "Annie is a heartless bitch, she's evil", and i'm like tsk tsk tsk, fool, you do not understand.
Yeah, that would be way too much testosterone for Annie! XD Plus Berrik's death saved Ymir from her titan-madness (and now she in return is saving Christa, and saves both Reiner and Bert. You know, for a character that claims she only cares about herself and using others, she sure saves a lot of people (i've grown to like Ymir)).
MMmm... I don't know what to say to that, what do you mean? On tumblr there's also this theory that Levi is hiding something, but i haven't read the background story of Levi and mmmmm... i will confess that i have only read the manga once and haven't focused to much on him. -_-
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My mind auto-exiles people like that from the Attack on Titan fandom, haha. It's very boring when people see the grey as black and white, claiming characters are "evil" because they "kill people". Truth be told, in many instances heroes also kill many people, but we hold them in high esteem regardless.
Interesting. How did Berrik's death change Ymir? I must have skimmed over that in the manga, shame on me. Same, I like Ymir. She's not as selfish as she claims herself to be (the "I do it for myself" argument she throws around). Plus, I like her dynamic with Krista, particularly how she wants Krista to live for herself and her personal wants instead of pushing for the "goddess" persona she (Krista) build for herself in order to be remembered and acknowledged by the Reiss family.
It was a pretty arbitrary question. I guess in general: how do you think he'll contribute to the plot? He seems to be setting up some plan in the last chapter, it's why I'm curious. Though, to be honest, Revaille never struck me in the manga/ anime. I think he's a very different character than one first imagines him to be (a heartless, cold, Ulquiorra-esque, stoic man, which he is not), but other than that I don't really feel his involvement in the story so far balances the huge uproar/ fan adoration he's receiving. Not to say that's he isn't a good or likeable character that merits fans but it's a bit odd in my mind that he trumps all the characters. I guess we should chat more about Erwin then. XD He seems to be up to "questionably" good things.
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I love all the greyness in these series. I like how nobody is truly innocent, there's specks of selfishness and meanness everywhere, which comes as no surprise if you consider the harsh world they live in. It makes it all more realistic. That's how humans are.
MMmm, i think it was on chapter 46 or 47? I'm not sure. I think Ymir was running around feral but after eating Berrik she kinda snapped out of it? It wasn't at that same instant though, but i think she mentions something like that. When i read the manga again, i'll send you the links. Absolutely, she sees through Krista's BS and doesn't cut her any slack, brings her anger out of her too, Krista is decisive (and slightly violent) only when she's around Ymir.
I don't know, truth be told. I think he's trying to flush out the enemies within the walls, since the plan of reconquering Maria is falling through and Reiner, Bert and Ymir are way out of reach. Now the plot is focusing on the human threat, instead of the titan one.
I think Levi has got some layers on him, he hides his pain and his fear well, but it's there all right. Hehe, i don't know, people really love dark brooding characters, what can i say? XD
Oh Erwin. Despite his Captain America looks he's actually a frightening character, and the reason for this, is that he has a machiavellian approach to life, meaning, for him, the ends justify the means. So far, always. He will sacrifice his chance for a family to focus solely on the titans. He will endanger civilians to catch the Female Titan. He will sacrifice his comrades to ensnare the enemy. He will lose all limbs if need be but he. will. do. it. This level of determination is important in a leader, no-one wants to follow the indecisive or the fretful. But if determination turns into obsession, the costs might rise until they are unbearable. But so far Erwin is seems grounded and level-headed. Let's just hope it lasts.
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Agreed. I think the greyness makes the plot and characters interesting. No one's a pure "good guy" or "evil guy", terms that are over-abused in action animes. Each party fights for their own cause, which we've yet to understand and judge in the case of the titan trio.
Yeah, it's interesting to see Ymir hold onto her humanity. From what I understand (I could be very wrong), she lived a satisfactory life as a titan prior to entering the walled cities. Though it was mentioned in a manga extra (around chapter 52 or 53) that she is grateful for the titan trio for having destroyed Maria/Rose. It gave her a chance for a better life upon entering the walls. Her dynamic with Krista is great. Initially, Krista doesn't come along as someone with a heavy past but you really get to experience her thought process through Ymir, who sees through the facades she puts up. The time will come when Krista makes a decision for herself, not for the sake of other people remembering her, and it will be worth watching, as selfish as it may be.
I don't think Erwin's plan was ever to recapture Maria. That's what he sold to the Military Police and HQ around episodes 15 and 16. He seems intent on flushing out the perpetrators associating with the "enemy", as proved with the plan to capture Annie, and later the same plan on catching Reiner/Bert, all of which failed. Honestly, I think he's just lucky that Eren is still in his grasp and not the "enemy's". XD Now what if he's an enemy and has been hiding it really well, plot twist! Though a lot of people suspect him to be up to no good... so it won't be a surprise either way, hehe.
"Captain American looks"; I think that's the best way I've heard anyone describe Erwin. XD Agreed, the ends justify the means for him. Any means. Though it pains him to loose comrades, which I respect. The same goes for Levi. It's why I respect him as well, because he's not what you expect as the "dark brooding character".
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