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Description OMG I've done a smash roster, how original of me... Can you blame a guy who is bored?

Tell me what you think of the characters I choose in roster and tell me what characters you want to see in smash 5/Switch

If you wonder who anyone of those 84 characters are or wonder why I chose them just ask.
If you have done a fan roster I would love to see it. 

Hope you have a great day! 

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ThePontusAndersson In reply to ??? [2018-05-19 16:29:59 +0000 UTC]

Sorry for late reply

1st: I made this over a year ago on March 5th, 2017 and my opinion on some of the characters have changed, but I still personally think Marth, Ike, and Lucina have the best chances of making a return. Marth being the icon and Ike and Lucina being two of the most popular male and female characters in the series (It's always them or either Hector or Ephiram and either Lyn or Erika) and IMO I think cutting anyone of those 3 would be a huge mistake.

2nd: I actually believe that adding the FE16 lord would be even less likely, Roy and Corrin were added before their respected games were released and those two are two of the most hated main characters in the franchise and and sakurai said it himself that after playing FE6 he regretted adding Roy instead of Leaf. I don't think he would add the main character from FE16, just because it might become another hated main characters when there is others great ones from the past, and even if it's not someone pre fates, there could easily be Alm or Celica from SoV or a new character from Heroes before a character from FE16. Maybe a DLC character in the future, but not in the main roster.

3rd: If you're saying "unless 16 is a remake" why would they be irrelevant? If the next echoes game in a remake of FE4 wouldn't Arvis make sense as a FE4 and FE villain rep, or if they port PoR and RD wouldn't Micaiah make sense? Nothing too major, but I just thought that didn't make too much sense having "unless it's a remake" and "irrelevant" in the same sentence.

"I liked your original one better"
That's ok, that one was just if it was a port

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getschwiftyboiiz In reply to ThePontusAndersson [2018-05-20 19:37:26 +0000 UTC]

Popularity wise, Corrin isn't the best in Fire Emblem. But people have grown to like her in the Smash community. Sakurai won't cut anyone he doesn't have to. Sakurai has never willingly cut a Fire Emblem character. I think Lucina will just be a palette swap. I believe there will still be six Fire Emblem slots (Marth and Lucina merged into one), including the FE16 protagonist, assuming it's new. Also, by irrelevant, they don't stand out much and don't have what it takes to represent Fire Emblem. Corrin and Robin are from the two bestselling games to date, which guarantees them a spot. Besides, Fire Emblem Warriors chose the popular characters and worlds to put in. 
 

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TJZiomek [2018-05-04 18:11:17 +0000 UTC]

Where’s Jake he’s inkling boy

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ThePontusAndersson In reply to TJZiomek [2018-05-05 09:53:40 +0000 UTC]

What?

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AetherCrusader [2018-03-21 22:25:09 +0000 UTC]

Honestly, I'd prefer Paula over Kumatora.

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ThePontusAndersson In reply to AetherCrusader [2018-03-26 19:34:26 +0000 UTC]

That's fine

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Guillaume101 [2018-03-13 12:34:33 +0000 UTC]

I would've prefered Jon Talbain rather than Morrigan.

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ThePontusAndersson In reply to Guillaume101 [2018-03-26 19:34:13 +0000 UTC]

I mean, Morrigan is like the main character and makes more sense than Jon Talbain

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Guillaume101 In reply to ThePontusAndersson [2018-03-26 19:36:48 +0000 UTC]

I get it, but she's not really iconic to Capcom. She's just popular. Though iconic to Darkstalkers, but not to Capcom.
Jon Talbain was more deserving to be in a crossover game, but Capcom didn't want him. So after MvCI, I gave up on them.
And SSB was my last straw, because even that one is impossible for Jon to be confirmed. Hell, not even Mortal Kombat or Tekken.
So I was like fuck it. If Jon is not gonna be in a crossover game, then he'll never be.

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RecreationalNukes [2018-02-11 15:56:23 +0000 UTC]

King Boo: Not really my first choice for a character, but I'd like to see how he'd fight.
King K. Rool: Yes please!
Waluigi: Absolutely!
Mona and Ashley: Can't really see how Mona would work, but I'm down for Ashley.
Lana: She'd make a cool new addition.
Vaati: Same case with Lana.
Dark Pit: I hear a lot of people saying he could be decloned, but I'm not really sure how that would work...
Phosphora: Don't really think she's big enough to be a fighter.
Ice Climbers: Hell yeah!
(I haven't played a whole lot of Pokemon games, so I can't really comment on this section)
Bandana Dee: We need more Kirby reps. I'll take it.
Micaiah, Sharena, and Arvis: None of these are really my first choices. Arvis sounds rather interesting, but I feel the other two could be used for new FE characters.
Henry Fleming: I liked Codename STEAM, but I don't really think it's relevant enough to be in Smash.
Fiora and Elma: I'm alright with these two, but I think Rex and Pyra would be more likely.
Kumatora: I haven't played Mother 3 yet, but she seems like an interesting character, so I'm fine with this.
Sylux and Dark Samus: I'll take it, since we'll probably never get Ridley.
Wolf: He should definitely come back!
Inkling: Pretty much a given.
Excitebiker: Not really sure how this would work. I'd rather give it to Takamaru, Mach Rider, or even Diskun.
Chibi-Robo: Sure.
Phoenix Wright: Not really sure if he'd be worthy of the 3rd Capcom rep, but I would want him in.
Morrigan: Feel this spot could go to Chun-Li. I like Morrigan, but she's only on a Nintendo console in Tatsunoko vs. Capcom and Project X Zone.
KOS-MOS: I know there's a rumor that there's gonna be a Xenosaga remaster coming to Switch, but until that's proven, I think Nightmare from Soul Calibur is more likely.
Snake: I really want him back. I love Metal Gear.
Shantae: A charming character who should have been in over Corrin.

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ThePontusAndersson In reply to RecreationalNukes [2018-02-11 16:33:45 +0000 UTC]

Mona: I imagine most of her moves being based on the Warioware games

Dark Pit: I'm thinking the Pandora Claws, Dark Pit Staff, and the weapons he uses in Chapter 6 in Kid Icarus uprising

Phosphora: IDK, she was a pretty popular character and was one of the commanders of the Forces of Nature that was in more than 1 chapter

FE rep: I mean I added Sharena for a mobile Nintendo rep and because she was a female lance user. Micaiah because she was one of the most requested FE characters to join after Lucina was added, but Micaiah could easily be replaced by a old or new FE character.

Fiora and Elma: This was made before much information about XB2, but I would probably switch out on of them for Pyra now.

Morrigan: I know Morrigan is not likely, but I would not add Chun-Li because I don't want multiple 3rd party character from the same game.

KOS-MOS: She made a huge cameo in XB2 and was playable, that and the Xenosaga remaster rumor and that she is a character that is in multiple Namco crossovers and that XS and XB would be reunited again outside PXZ2

Shantae: Anyone should have been picked over Corrin

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RecreationalNukes In reply to ThePontusAndersson [2018-02-11 18:57:13 +0000 UTC]

I think if you wanted another Capcom rep, you should do Leon from Resident Evil, as Resident Evil 4 was on Gamecube and is considered to be one of the best games ever.

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ThePontusAndersson In reply to RecreationalNukes [2018-02-11 19:42:29 +0000 UTC]

True, I love Leon, but I think the problem would be like how they did with snake without guns.

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MrLampy [2017-12-27 15:36:57 +0000 UTC]

Do you accept constructive criticism?

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ThePontusAndersson In reply to MrLampy [2017-12-27 15:38:48 +0000 UTC]

Well, sure

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MrLampy In reply to ThePontusAndersson [2017-12-27 16:08:20 +0000 UTC]

Alright, here I go.
King Boo: Seems like a pretty random choice as far as a Mario newcomer goes... But I guess he is a villain and a Luigi's Mansion rep, and he's still a better choice than Daisy.
King K. Rool: He's a great choice and I wish he was in already.
Waluigi: See above.
Mona and Ashley: IDK much about either but Ashley seems to be the more popular one... But I think 4 Wario characters is too much, especially when there are just 3 DK characters.
Lana: Never played HW so I can't comment. Seems like a simillar situation to Geno though.
Vaati: I don't know much about him but I think we need another toon rep.
Phosphora: Seems like a pretty random choice, even more so than King Boo... Especially compared to the likes of Medusa or Viridi.
Ice Climbers: I'd like to see them back as well.
Pokemon Trainer: It would be nice to see him again if the Stamina gimmick is removed.
Quilava: I know I sound like a broken record, but it seems like a pretty random Pokemon choice...
Gardevoir: Interesting choice. Probably the best option as far as Gen 3 reps go other than Blaziken (I think both are equally good choices but Blaziken makes more sense IMO due to being more iconic)
Tapu Koko: It's an understandable choice seeing as it's one of the more prominent Gen 7 mon... But I'd heavily prefer Decidueye, but that's just my bias talking.
Bandana Dee: Great choice.
Micaiah: Haven't played Radiant Dawn but she seems pretty popular so I guess I'm ok with her.
Sharena: I don't play Heroes, what can she do?
Arvis: I know little about him, but I do know that he's a villain and a magic user which are both things we need more of.
Isaac: Still don't understand why he was dropped as an Assist Trophy. I want him playable though, especially after playing his game (Still playing through it but I already see potential)
Fiora: Never played Xenoblade but I know she appeared in Project X Zone so she wouldn't be completely random.
Elma: Haven't played X but I think Rex/Pyra is more likely... Though this seems to be more of an ideal roster than a prediction anyway, so I'll let it slide.
Kumatora: From what I understand she can't do anything Lucas already does in the game... I don't see the appeal.
Sylux: Good substitute for Ridley I guess, and he seems likely due to Prime 4 being a thing.
Dark Samus: Again decent choice. Haven't played any Metroid game aside from Zero Mission so I can't really comment.
Wolf: I really wish he was added as DLC in Smash 4.
Inkling: I mean it's practically a Shoo-in.
Excite biker: I can't see a working moveset for him.
Chibi Robo: I like his SSF2 moveset and more new series is nice too.
Phoenix Wright: I guess. I never played AA but I know what they did with him in MvC.
I know nothing about Xenosaga or Darkstalkers so I can't comment on either Morrigan or Kos-Mos.
Snake: I'd love to see him back.
Shantae: Once again I'd be okay with her despite not playing her games.

Overall, it's an okay roster. I'd give it a 6/10. Would you mind taking a look at my roster? (It's the only deviation I uploaded so you shouldn't have trouble finding it).
Edit: Although, I'm not a fan of your cuts (I'm okay with Dr. Mario, Corrin and Roy not being in, but I'd miss Robin and to an extent Rosalina).

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ThePontusAndersson In reply to MrLampy [2017-12-27 17:57:09 +0000 UTC]

King Boo: Not that random if you think about it. Like you said he is the main villain in LM 1&2 making him an importaint character, but he is also a recurring character in the mario series and spinoffs and is another villain character in smash.

Mona and Ashley: They are about as popular as each other, but Ashley is the more plausible of those two to make it in to smash ."4 Wario characters is too much" Waluigi isn't a Wario character. Kinda like how Yoshi is next to the Mario character in Smash 4, but isn't a Mario character.

Lana: Not necessarily, it depends on if Koei Tecmo owns Lana, but I haven't heard anything about something like that.

Vaati: Well that and besides ganon/ganondorf he is the most recurring main villain in the series.

Phosphora: Well she is somewhat a recurring villain in uprising and is pretty popular, but you could easily change her with ether Medusa, Magnus, Pandora, Viridi, or even a Eggplant Wizard

Quilava: Well I wanted a Gen two pokemon, smash has only made one middle evolution (Pikachu and Jigglypuff does not count because they were first evolutions when they were added) and I wanted a middle and not a second evolution like Lucario, the Cyndaquil evolution line is one of the most popular evolution lines in and outside gen 2, Quilava is a populaour second stage evilution, doesn't have many smash characters that stands on all four, a little bit of my personal relation with this pokemon, and that's the basic.

Tapu Koko: Well I chose him not only because I wanted a 7 gen pokemon, but also because I wanted another legendary pokemon for smash.

Sharena: Well heroes is a pretty simple game so not much, but she uses a lance and shield. I imagine her to use moves based on how other lance unites fights. I also just wanted a character to represent Nintendo's mobile line up.

Arvis: Yeah, he is one of the more popular villains and is considered the best in the series.

Elma: This was made before XC2 was released and before much information was revealed about the game, so I didn't want to chance it. But if I remake it I would probably add Pyra.

Sylux: Well that and he appeared in the endings for Prime 3 and FF, so he is planned to return.

Excite biker: I'm thinking movies based on his motorbike, like a motorcycle tricks and stunts.

FE cuts: Well, I decided to keep Marth because he is the icon of FE and Ike and Lucina are arguably the most popular male and female characters in FE. I didn't want to many FE characters in. Roy and Corrin are pretty hated lords in the FE fandom, and even if I love Robin I wanted more characters from other series and rather have one Awakening instead of two and Lucina is more popular and is the first and only female sword fighter in smash.

Sure, I check it out

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MrLampy In reply to ThePontusAndersson [2017-12-27 18:40:13 +0000 UTC]

King Boo: Still pretty random compared to the likes of Toad, IMO.

Mona and Ashley: I see, although Ashley seems much more popular from what I've seen.

Vaati: Yeah I knoiw that.

Phosphora: From what I've seen, she's not that popular (At least as far as Smash requests go), and she wasn't that prominent in Uprising (She had a major role in her debut chapter and made some minor appearences in later chapter if I remember correctly, but it's been a while since I've played that game.) Though I really do wonder why Pandora gets a mention and Thanatos doesn't.

Quilava: Still seems random to me but whatever.

Tapu Koko: Oh well, still wouldn't be happy with that addition but to each their own.

Sylux: Yeah, he seems like the go to Metroid choice nowadays because he's pretty much guaranteed to appear in Prime 4 and because Sakurai said stuff about Ridley being too big (I'd accept Sylux but I'd still prefer Ridley myself).

Excite Biker: But how do you make a full moveset out of that? Especially since he's on his motorcycle all the time (How does it jab?)

Roy and Corrin: I heard some stuff about Roy being an awful unit and character (Being the second most popular male character is probably because of Smash anyway), and I'm not surprised Corrin is hated... I couldn't stand him myself when I played Fates, he was such a boring character.

Robin: Still, he's our first Magic user... Plus Ike appeared in both PoR and RD, yet you added Micaiah?

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ThePontusAndersson In reply to MrLampy [2017-12-27 20:30:42 +0000 UTC]

King Boo: I think Toad is a random character TBH

Phosphora: I remember Phosphora being a wanted character for smash 4 and a pretty popular character in the KI fandom (But I haven't been a part of the KING community in a while, so I don't know how populaure she still is) and I forgot that Thanatos even existed, so that's why.

Quilava: Well, which new pokemon character would you add that's from gen 2 and/or is a middle evolution?

EB: I imagine a short jabb where he'll kick his opponent and spin around with his bike for a second hit.

Ike/Micaiah: It's not the same in my eyes, PoR and RD isn't the same game and Micaiah appeared first in RD and Ike in PoR and then it's sequel. It would be the same if I had both Marth and Katarina in my roster. Marth was in SD and NMotE and Katarina was only in NMotE. The only characters I let it pass is for characters like Nyna, Leif, and Eliwood, I don't know if this makes much sense, but that's how I feel.

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MrLampy In reply to ThePontusAndersson [2017-12-27 21:26:10 +0000 UTC]

Toad: He is one of the most iconic Nintendo characters... How is he random exactly?

Thanatos: ...but the extra H is for hamazing...

Gen 2: Scizor, no questions asked. It's ny 4th favorite Pokemon overall.

Mid evolutions: I'd probably just throw in Ivysaur again.

Excite Biker: That sounds neat actually.

Ike/Michaiah: I guess I see your point, especially since I've seen many rosters that had both Roy and Lyn on them.

Edit: BTW, can you comment on my roster please? I like discussing rosters with other people.

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ThePontusAndersson In reply to MrLampy [2017-12-28 20:36:08 +0000 UTC]

Toad: IDK, I just don't see him that important of a character.

Scizor: Ok, yeah Scizor was a pretty obvious one.

Mid evolutions: I mean as a new one.

EB: Thx

Done.

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MrLampy In reply to ThePontusAndersson [2017-12-28 21:02:39 +0000 UTC]

Toad: Still one of the most iconic Nintendo characters.

Mid evolutions: Dewott I guess. He's one of the few middle evolutions that look good IMO.

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SuperMario643DS [2017-10-22 03:44:32 +0000 UTC]

King Boo: Interesting choice for a character. I could totally see him slipping people with his tongue. Maybe his final smash could be the Bowser Suit from Luigi's Mansion or the purple lightning attack from Dark Moon.
King K. Rool: Yes
Waluigi: Yes
Mona: Not sure how she would work, but I never played WarioWare so I don't know what she does.
Ashley: She looks more straightforward with how she would fight as she is a witch. More magic characters would be cool.
Lana: I think she would work really well in Smash and certainlly has moves to take from. I remember her being one of my favorite characters in Hyrule Warriors.
Vaati: Don't know much on him as I never seen or played the game he's in.
Phosphora: She seems like I cool character and all but I would really have Viridi or Hades as a fourth KI rep as they are more prominent characters. Phosphora only shows up for one chapter and a cameo in another.
Pokemon Trainer: I would personally prefer them to be separate. I would totally support Squirtle and Ivysaur returning, but as separte charcters. I like Charizard a whole lot more now that he's by himself in Smash 4.
Quilava: I see that you're going for a Pokemon from each generation (even though you forgot about Gen 5), though I think bringing Pichu back would be better for that.
Gardevoir: Gardevoir is definitely one of the best candidates for a Gen 3 rep. Sceptile, Blaziken, and Deoxys could also work.
Tapu Koko: Seeing as how Tapu Koko gets more attention from Pokemon than the other 3, it being the Gen 7 rep makes sense. The final smash would definitely be Guardian of Alola. Decidueye, Incineroar, Mimikyu, and maybe Dusk Lycanroc could also work.
Bandana Dee: Yes
Micaiah: Adding another FE character from the same game as another is a little strange even though we have Robin and Lucina, both from Awakening in Smash 4.
Sharena: Seeing how popular Heroes is, an original character from there is possible. Definitely better that Mr and Ms blond, bland, swordlords from Warriors.
Arvis: A charcter from a Japan only game who's not the main protagonist? Yeah that's definitely not happening. Did he burn Sigurd to take his spot?
Henry: Don't know anything about Code Name Steam, a certainly more unique choice.
Issac: Yes
Fiora: As cool as Mecha Fiora is, I don't think she would be in Smash. She was in that Capcom Project X thing, so maybe it's more possible than I think.
Elma: I don't know anything about Xenblade X, so you're going to have to explain her potential moveset to me. Though I would rather have Rex and Pyra from Xenoblade 2 as a duo character over her.
Kumatora: As unlikely of us getting a third Mother character, I would rather have Ninten to represent Mother 1/Earthbound Beginnings.
Sylux: He's one of those hunter guys from Metroid Prime Hunters? I don't play Metroid so again some explaination is needed.
Dark Samus: She could actually work as a Metroid Prime rep and could be a semi clone if not original fighter. If only Dark Pit wasn't a clone moveset wise.
Inkling: Yes
Excitebiker: If Sakurai could actually come up with a moveset for them this time then why not?
Chibi Robo: I could definitely see him working well in Smash, so sure.
Phoenix Wright: I would want to see him in Smash just to see how he would.
Morrigan: She's from Darkstalkers right? Seeing that she's already from a fighting game a moveset would be easy. I think the only things holding her back are Capcom's approval and that she may need to be censored a bit like with Bayonetta.
Kos Mos: Don't know who she is, where she's from or what she does.
Shauntae: I'm totally for a Nindie character in Smash. Either her or Shovel Knight.
Overall, this roster is really good, save for a few, to me, weird choices. The return of Ice Climbers, Wolf, and Snake is greatly appreciated. As for cut characters...
Why Rosalina? Are you just so salty of how broken she is you would cut her? Just kidding, but seriously why cut her? She's a very popular Mario character and a really good and unique fighter.
You cut Dr. Mario yet kept Lucina and Dark Pit... Why not keep all three or cut all three? Doc seems the most original as he differeniates from his source character the most.
Why did you cut Robin and not Girl Marth I mean Lucina. Robin is a perfectly fine and original character. Is it because of Micaiah and appearently there can't be two white haired mages in Smash even though we have 3 blue haired sword lords.
Again cutting Corrin and keeping Lucina also seems really strange. Corrin is also a perfectly fine and original fighter yet you think genderbent Marth with the exact same moveset as him supersedes them. Whether or not you like Fates or Corrin as a character, they certainly left their mark on the FE fanbase and do deserve to stay.
Lucina over Roy is also weird. Both are the second most popular FE characters of their gender. Though Roy is more unique that Lucina as he's a semi clone as opposed to an exact clone. Also if Sakurai regretted putting Roy in, why did he get readded as DLC in Smash 4? Not hating on Lucina. I just think it's stupid to keep her over two original fighters and someone who's less of a clone than she is.
Lastly there's Duck Hunt. Did you forget them or something? I don't see any reason to cut them especially since Duck Hunt was one of the most successful NES games and is the obligitory retro character of Smash 4.

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ThePontusAndersson In reply to SuperMario643DS [2017-10-22 07:49:11 +0000 UTC]

Phosphora: Well, I chose Phosphora because she is one of Viridi's commanders and you actually see her fight. However, Viridi is a good candidate.

PKMN Trainer: I prefer them separated as well, but I think a way this could work is if you would lie to choose to fight with them all or just one.

Quilava: I don't hate Pichu, but smash has only made one middle evolution (Pikachu and Jigglypuff does not count because they were first evolutions when they were added) and I wanted a middle and not a second evolution like Lucario, the Cyndaquil evolution line is one of the most popular evolution lines in and outside gen 2, Quilava is a popular second stage evolution, doesn't have many smash characters that stands on all four, a little bit of my personal relation with this Pokemon, and that's the basic.

Gen 5: I didn't forget it, but if I added a gen 5 Pokemon there would be 10 Pokemon characters (12 if you count PKMN Trainer as separates) so I decided to cut gen 5 out.

Micaiah: The reason why I added Micaiah was because she became one of the most requested FE characters to join smash when DLC got announced and she would be a Magic/Staff user.

Arvis: No, Arvis is considered by many to be the best villain in the series from what many consider the best game in the series and FE needs a villain character in smash. + Thanks to FEH he has now appeared in a game outside Japan (Even if I don't think that being japan exclusive is a big point if or if not a character could join smash) and possibly an echoes treatment to GotHW

Elma: She is the main character in X and is basically a dual gun user and also a dual sword user witch would make her a long range character. And yeah, I do think Rex or Pyra from 2 has a better chance

Ninten: I'd rather have him as an alt for Nes to be honest.

Sylux: Yes, he is one of the hunters and also appears in the ending of Metroid Prime 3 and Federation Force, so there is clearly plans for him to appear in future games.

PW: I mean, he was in MvC3 so him being a fighter isn't something new.

KOS-MOS: is from Xenosaga and is the main character, she is an android with a ton of weaponry and has appeared in multiple crossovers, so I chose her because she made sense as a second Namco rep and because it would make a Xenosaga and Xenoblade character to be united.

Rosalina: The thing about Rosalina was that I didn't think she was "worthy" to be in smash when there is a ton of characters from the Mario series that should be in before her. I don't hate her, she is one of my favorite Mario characters I like her moveset, I just think she was added to earlier.

Dr. Mario: The thing is that I always imagined that smash 5 will give DP and Lucina the what I would call the "Luigi 64 to Luigi Melee" treatment where they get a new moveset so they aren't clones anymore (Or at least they could become semi clones) And yes, it could be done to Dr. Mario as well, but the difference between Him and DP and Lucina is that Dr. Mario and Mario is the same person, which is personally bothering me when it comes to him being a character.

Robin: The reason why I cut him was because I only wanted to have one Awakening character. And here's how I thought, Marth is obviously going to continue to be in smash, and Ike and Lucina are arguably the most beloved male and female lords in FE who were also in smash. And the facts that Lucina is the first female FE character and only female sword user in smash (I don't count FRobin and FCorrin because they are alts) she represents 2nd generation characters in smash, she was the most requested female fighters to be added to smash 4, and she is more popular than Robin.

Corrin and Roy: Here's the thing, they are despised lords in FE and no matter if they are more original or not or if they are someones favorite character in or outside smash or FE, they are not smash worthy and the fact still stands that there are better and more deserving characters to be added to smash before them. And I would do and say the same if Ike was a Marth clone and Roy was the original, because Ike and Lucina deserves to be in smash before Roy and Corrin.

Duck Hunt: Yeah, i forgot him. If I had to change this roster I would add him instead of Kumatora or Chibi Robo.

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SuperMario643DS In reply to ThePontusAndersson [2017-11-02 01:12:32 +0000 UTC]

Late reply is late but better late then never I guess...

I suppose having the Trainer back would be okay as long as they remove the Pokemon tiring, the type advantage gimmick, and the game forcing you to switch when you get KOed.

You're right about the first stage thing, but I do think Grovyle or Braxian would be better as they're more relevant. Grovyle to represent the Mystery Dungeon games or Braxian was in Pokken (though Gardevoir would also work for that). Then again, we got Ivysaur because reasons so Quilava may be more plausible then I first thought.

I think 10 Pokemon characters is pretty justified as it's one of Nintendo's biggest franchises next to Mario and Zelda. Counting DKC characters, WarioWare characters, and Yoshi, there are 14 Mario characters, 16 if you left Rosalina and Dr. Mario.

I haven't heard much people wanting Micaiah as DLC. I guess it got drowned out by people complaining that we have too many FE characters. I wouldn't mind her if she did get in Smash though.

As for Arvis, he seems he would be a great magic character but for me, main protagonist prioritizes villain. Fire Emblem is a series full of characters as almost every game has a whole new cast. A Genealogy of Holy War character seems very unlikely, or at least until we get a remake of that, but even then I'd rather have Sigurd or Seliph. Sigurd would be very unique as he fights on horseback and could use lances.

Yeah, Ninten as an alt is more likely, but if by some miracle we get a third Mother character, I'd rather have it be the main character from the first game so all three games would be represented in Smash.

The only other characters I think we should have gotten over Rosalina would be Waluigi, Daisy, and Toad. Nintendo has put Rosalina in pretty much every Mario spin-off as of late and was actually playable in a main series game, that being Super Mario 3D World. Rosalina has solidified herself as part of the Mario spin off crew and I don't think she's going anywhere.

Well Link and Toon Link are also technically the same person but they are of different timelines, different ages, and different yet simliar movesets. For me with the Smash 4 clones, either keep them all or cut them all.

So we can have two Radiance characters but not two Awakening characters? Robin as also originally intended to be in the game (well technically Chrom was, but was cut as Sakurai couldn't make him original enough) while Lucina was suppose to be a alt for Marth. You cutting Robin also upsets me as Robin is one of my mains in Smash 4.

Corrin, as much of a moron they are, aren't just there for themselves, are representing Fates as a whole. Yes the story is a complete mess and a lot of the characters are annoying, but the gameplay is actually pretty good and fixes the more OP pair up system in Awakening.
I think Fates does deserve Smash representation since it's certainly popular, whether it be for better or worse. It's also apparent that IS is certainly throwing Corrin into more things. Corrin was one of the first characters reveled for Warriors, has gotten a special version in Heroes, and has gotten two amiibo (both of which summon both genders of Corrin in Shadows of Valentia). Whether or not you think Fates deserves Smash representation, IS is most definitely going to be using Fates characters in other things in the future. Corrin is also my other Smash 4 main, so yeah, I'm probably being biased in my paragraph here.

As for Roy, yeah he's pretty meh in his source game, but that doesn't change the fact that he is the second most popular male character of the series (and this is most defiantly because of Smash). You could have kept him and made Lucina a Marth alt or maybe kept Lucina and make Roy the Marth alt or something. He's also a Smash veteran and I think his popularity is more rooted in Smash Bros. then Fire Emblem.

Anyway thanks for responding and I have also made a Smash 5 roster that you can criticize. Feel free to completely tear it apart and type lengthy paragraphs explaining why you would disagree with my choices as I've done to you. 

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ThePontusAndersson In reply to SuperMario643DS [2017-11-04 11:39:07 +0000 UTC]

10 Pokemon: While I do agree about that Pokemon is one of Nintendo's biggest franchises and 10(/12) Pokemon characters could be justified, I'd rather just have it like this so it doesn't feel jammed with Pokemon characters.

14/16 Mario: The thing is that unlike Pokemon, DKC and WarioWare have established to be their own separate thing in the same universe as Mario.

Arvis: Well there was a poll not long ago in Japan where everyone got to vote for their favorite FE game was and FE4 won and Sakurai have talked about how much he enjoyed FE4 (Don't remember if he said if it was his favorit or not) And I usually would agree with the "main protagonist prioritizes villain" but i think it could be justified because there has been 6 protagonist from 5 different games out of 15(soon 16) and 2 spin offs so I don't think having 1 villain that's from a different game is that big of a deal + you could always make Seliph a Marth alt(who would later become the 4th Marth clone ) or Sigurd a Ike alt.

Clone: Well that's that, they are different Links. Dr. Mario and Mario they are the same person. It be the same as if it was YL insteand of TL, because it would be YL from OoT and MM and this adult link who is based on TP and SW, they are both Links, but they are different Links.

Robin: "So we can have two Radiance characters but not two Awakening characters?" Because unlike Awakening there are two Tellius games and Ike was chosen to Rep PoR and Micaiah reps RD. "You cutting Robin also upsets me as Robin is one of my mains in Smash 4" Ok? So do I.

Corrin: "Whether or not you think Fates deserves Smash representation" I do think Fates deserves a rep, but I think Azura fits the bill better and I still think there are characters in Fire Emblem and outside that should be added before Corrin. "Corrin is also my other Smash 4 main, so yeah, I'm probably being biased in my paragraph here." Ok, I main Corrin too and yes you're probably being biased here.

Roy: "doesn't change the fact that he is the second most popular male character of the series" Don't take the Choose Your Legend seriously, because the way it was handled you can't make it accurate. Not only was it that you could vote on more than just one character, but you could vote for the same character multiple times. I saw someone who voted for Roy everyday just because he wanted smash 4 Roy to be as good Melee Roy. That's it, that was his reason, no joke.

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MZimmer1985 [2017-10-16 07:36:28 +0000 UTC]

Morrigan from Darkstalkers? Well, since she was in Tatsunoko vs. Capcom, I'll bite. Plus, I think it's highly recommended to have her there. And don't forget Felicia! You can't have Morrigan without my waifu (as it's called!). I mean, Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite came without Felicia (unless she's being planned for the season pass). Don't be like them, you!  

You should also throw in Rowan and Lianna from Fire Emblem Warriors, maybe some characters from Hyrule Warriors, Chun-Li, Ken Masters, Cammy White, Akuma, Miles "Tails" Prower, Knuckles the Echidna, Amy Rose, Dr. Eggman, Roy, Male/Female Robin, Rayman, Dixie Kong, Geno, Mallow, the Aqua Teen Hunger Force (humor me!), any Pokemon from Sun/Moon, Cranky Kong, Monster Hunter, Mega Man X, Zero, Rabbids, Tina Armstrong, and Rosalina.

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ThePontusAndersson In reply to MZimmer1985 [2017-10-16 09:06:26 +0000 UTC]

Felicia: I'd rather not have multiple 3rd party characters from the same game and rather than have multiple Darkstalkers character I'd add other Capcom characters. But if I were to add more Darkstalkers character I would probobly not add Felicia first.  I would add Jedah  (And then I would probobly add Demitri, Hsien-Ko, Pyron)

Rowan and Lianna: No, they are not smash worthy and there are better FE characters.

Characters from Hyrule Warriors: Don't you see that I have added Lana?

Chun-Li, Ken Masters, Cammy White, Akuma: Like I said I'd rather not have multiple 3rd party characters from the same game, but Chun-Li is a character I had considered to add instead of Ryu and Ingrid also because she was tecnically not a SF character.

Miles "Tails" Prower, Knuckles the Echidna, Amy Rose, Dr. Eggman: Like I said I'd rather not have multiple 3rd party characters from the same game, but If I had to add another Sonic character I would add Knuckles.

Roy: Roy is not a good character in and Sakurai himself said that he regret to put Roy in. And there are better FE characters to be added to smash

Robin: There were any reasons why I decided to remove him and have Marth, Ike, and Lucian left and added new ones. Let's just say that id be ok if he was in, but I think there were others that should be in before him again.

Rayman: I was going to add him, but I didn't want to many 3rd party characters in the main roster.

Dixie Kong, Geno, Mallow: No

Aqua Teen Hunger Force: Dafuq? why?

Pokemon from Sun/Moon: I have added Tapu Koko, didn't you see that?

Cranky Kong, Monster Hunter: No

Mega Man X, Zero:  Like I said I'd rather not have multiple 3rd party characters from the same game, even if X isn't the same as Megaman it's still a Megaman game.

Rabbids: No

Tina Armstrong: Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Kasumi the main character in DoA and should therefore be added first?

Rosalina: No, there were too many and still are characters that should have be added before her.

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MZimmer1985 In reply to ThePontusAndersson [2017-10-16 18:57:38 +0000 UTC]

Ah, I wish you did throw in Felicia though. I'm still salty about Capcom not including her in Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite.

Well, I've been digging Rowan and Lianna based on videos from YouTube. Those two deserve some notice somehow.

I didn't play Hyrule Warriors to have recognized Lana.

Fair enough. But some SF characters should have an appearance. Okay, either Chun-Li or Akuma.

You still have to include some Sonic characters, at least the ones from the 90's. Amy would be a lot of fun to play in a Smash Bros. game.

Sucks about Roy.

I was random about the ATHF. I thought it would be a fun gag.

I'm not aware of Tapu Koko. I haven't played the games.

Well, maybe Mega Man X can be an alternate costume choice for Mega Man.

Well, Rabbids had a recent resurgence of popularity post-Mario X Rabbids, so I figured one of them gets some love.

Oh, I didn't know about Kasumi. That's how much I'm aware of Dead or Alive!

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ThePontusAndersson In reply to MZimmer1985 [2017-10-17 07:48:20 +0000 UTC]

There is a lot that is in Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite to be salty about.

Rowan & Lianna: They are not good characters. They are extremely bland and again there is better FE characters to be added to smash.

Lana & Tapu Koko: Why would you ask about HW & Sun/Moon characters if you haven't played them/know anything about them?

Some SF characters: Maybe not in the base roster, but probably dlc.

Sonic characters: I don't "have to" include more Sonic characters, i'd rather add other Sega characters before mor sonic characters.

ATHF: But this is supposed to be more of a "realistic" roster.

Rabbids: Not before Rayman

DoA: WHY WOULD YOU ASK ABOUT IT THEN?

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MrYoshi1996 [2017-06-12 17:38:29 +0000 UTC]

Personally, I'd add an ARMS rep here. But it's still a nice roster

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ThePontusAndersson In reply to MrYoshi1996 [2017-06-12 18:06:15 +0000 UTC]

I believe that I made this before Arms was a thing, or at least before we got more info about it.

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MrYoshi1996 In reply to ThePontusAndersson [2017-06-12 18:09:18 +0000 UTC]

Oh okay

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ThePontusAndersson In reply to MrYoshi1996 [2017-06-12 18:11:43 +0000 UTC]

Except that, is there any specific thing you like, dislike, or is confused about?

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MrYoshi1996 In reply to ThePontusAndersson [2017-06-12 18:12:52 +0000 UTC]

I think every character is a good choice. Especially Quilava

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ThePontusAndersson In reply to MrYoshi1996 [2017-06-12 18:25:22 +0000 UTC]

Huh, that's new. Everyone always asked why I added Quilava in my rosters, and there is always one person who disagrees with one character I chose to add.

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MrYoshi1996 In reply to ThePontusAndersson [2017-06-12 18:26:35 +0000 UTC]

It helps that Quilava is my 2nd favorite gen 2 Pokemon. Second only to Steelix

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FunnySmashPhotos [2017-05-27 17:46:54 +0000 UTC]

I would love to see Inkling Girl, Morrigan and Shantae in smash.

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ThePontusAndersson In reply to FunnySmashPhotos [2017-05-28 19:30:06 +0000 UTC]

Well Morrigan is a little bit far fetched, but a man can dream.

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FunnySmashPhotos In reply to ThePontusAndersson [2017-06-02 21:56:26 +0000 UTC]

Yeah.

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AWSOMEDUDEX90 [2017-05-22 23:29:46 +0000 UTC]

Im surprised sora wasnt added

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ThePontusAndersson In reply to AWSOMEDUDEX90 [2017-05-23 10:15:34 +0000 UTC]

Why would I add him?

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AWSOMEDUDEX90 In reply to ThePontusAndersson [2017-05-23 10:33:24 +0000 UTC]

There was a whole #sora4smash thing

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ThePontusAndersson In reply to AWSOMEDUDEX90 [2017-05-23 11:55:21 +0000 UTC]

There was a bunch of #___4smash things, not only for Sora.

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AWSOMEDUDEX90 In reply to ThePontusAndersson [2017-05-23 20:21:49 +0000 UTC]

I know that

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ThePontusAndersson In reply to AWSOMEDUDEX90 [2017-05-24 17:05:00 +0000 UTC]

So again, why would I add him?

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AWSOMEDUDEX90 In reply to ThePontusAndersson [2017-05-24 20:12:02 +0000 UTC]

Cause why not

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ThePontusAndersson In reply to AWSOMEDUDEX90 [2017-05-24 20:12:46 +0000 UTC]

Because I don't see a reason why he should be in smash.

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AWSOMEDUDEX90 In reply to ThePontusAndersson [2017-05-24 20:20:32 +0000 UTC]

Okay

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Troykv [2017-03-19 05:13:09 +0000 UTC]

Wow! Now features we're brand new lance lord Sharena, the everyone's friend

I like to see Micaiah again <3

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