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Well I sincerely hope you guys aren't sick of these yet.Not that I don't like answering everyone's questions, but it does get a little time consuming, so I hope this solves some mysteries if you were wondering!
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toerning In reply to ??? [2011-01-25 01:52:35 +0000 UTC]
Hm yeah that's a really good point! The way I see it, as long as there have been artists there has been the "suffering artist-" who isn't happy with a painting unless it contains drops of their own blood and tears. As artists, we feel like if something isn't difficult, it is cheating.
Well, needless to say, I don't believe in this, but what are you going to do. There will always be tortured artists!
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EmiPark26 [2011-01-24 16:54:28 +0000 UTC]
Why didn't you just paint the background blurry and out of focus to begin with?
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toerning In reply to EmiPark26 [2011-01-24 17:03:47 +0000 UTC]
Cause I'm not a wizard haha. I'm pretty sure DaVinci is the only person in history who could do that, really.
Practically speaking, I didn't just paint it like with less detail, because I specifically wanted it to look photographic. That can't be achieved with paint.
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EmiPark26 In reply to toerning [2011-01-24 17:29:04 +0000 UTC]
But you could have just used a soft edged brush and it would have been blurry. I don't know, I'm no expert at photoshop, I just thought that is what people did when doing blurry backgrounds. Now I feel cheated lol
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toerning In reply to EmiPark26 [2011-01-24 18:28:58 +0000 UTC]
Ah I see...but I didn't paint it in photoshop. It's Acrylic. Maybe some artists use an airbrush digitally to create blurry backgrounds but how is that more legit?
If the result is the same, the process doesn't really matter, is my way of thinking. Sorry you feel cheated, I guess.
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EmiPark26 In reply to toerning [2011-01-24 19:02:20 +0000 UTC]
Ohhhhh... No, I thought you'd done this in Photoshop, I obviously paid more attention to the bit where you'd blurred the background. Sorry.
Well, I guess I feel cheated by stuff like that because I assume the artist painted it that way themselves but if they haven't it's just..different? Like I know some people digitally paint something and then edit the colours with selective colour, curves and all that, it just makes me wonder why they didn't just paint it the colour palette they changed it to. I think they painted it that way but they haven't. I think they are great with colours but Photoshop did a lot of the work.
But anyway, sory for the misunderstanding.
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toerning In reply to EmiPark26 [2011-01-24 19:23:39 +0000 UTC]
woah I gotta address that accusation. I can't change how you feel about digital as a medium, but I have to defend it a little. To say that "photoshop did a lot of the work" is like saying that someone didn't create a sculpture because they used tools instead of their bare hands. Digital is another means to help an artist create a tangible version of the vision in their heads...just because someone has access to it doesn't mean it's going to do the work for them. The artist still has to be able to convert their vision to a picture that someone else can view, and that takes skill, talent, and hard work. Photoshop isn't a mind-reading robot, it's a tool.
And as to "why they didn't just paint it in the colour palette they changed it to..." Like all humans, artists don't always know what they want. And if we can create something that's closer to the vision we wanted to create, it WOULD be cheating to NOT use every tool available to create it.
Sorry for getting a little passionate there, but this is something I feel pretty strongly about. Hope I didn't scare you off haha and thank you for indulging me.
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EmiPark26 In reply to toerning [2011-01-24 19:44:24 +0000 UTC]
From my experience, there are a lot of well coloured digital paintings on here but are well coloured because of the alterations they have made using curves and selective colour. I feel it is like doing an acrylic painting and then asking someone to paint over it in a certain way, if you get what I mean.
I don't think your analogy is right. In sculpting you need tools to sculpt something, just like you need a paintbrush to paint something. In digital painting you don't need saturation and contrast sliders in order to paint something. Though I see what you mean. I feel it's not them doing the colour. I mean, I'd understand if they messed with the curves and then figured the background would look better with some darker tones and then they painted it in themself, it wouldn't seem so bad to me. It's like making shortcuts?
But yeah, that's what I think.
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toerning In reply to EmiPark26 [2011-01-24 20:05:32 +0000 UTC]
Well like I say can't change your mind haha
we'll just have to respectfully agree to disagree.
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nicholaskole In reply to toerning [2011-01-26 19:19:24 +0000 UTC]
Leela, I have to confess...I have thought in the past, every now and then, that your Journals to watchers have been maybe a little over-dramatic at times. But if this is the kind of crap you have to put up with- I just- I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS. This is, like, Youtube-comments-level foolishness.
Forgive me for doubting. This is ridiculous. I SO want to beat people up about this.
But seriously you should make nothing but Harry Potter fanart. And there should be more boys making out in it. KTHXBYE
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toerning In reply to nicholaskole [2011-01-26 19:26:40 +0000 UTC]
Haha YOU ARE FORGIVEN and trust you me, guy, this is the LEAST of it.
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nicholaskole In reply to toerning [2011-01-26 20:43:31 +0000 UTC]
My mind is blown. I have no idea why you attract foolish fools. Especially when you rock so hard.
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nicholaskole [2011-01-24 16:24:32 +0000 UTC]
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J'ACCUSE!
I don't really, but it's a fun coincidence.
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hyamei [2011-01-24 15:56:23 +0000 UTC]
I have been delving into traditional media lately and I seem to also have this insecurity of editing in photoshop. I thought if it was a big No-no for traditional artists to do that but I guess it doesn't hurt to use all your resources thanks for the quote there by the way haha
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toerning In reply to haylzherrick [2011-01-24 17:05:14 +0000 UTC]
GRRRL I HOPE YOUR BOSS THINKS SO haha thanks
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EZAT In reply to ??? [2011-01-24 08:22:20 +0000 UTC]
FFFFFFFFUUUUUUOOOOmyfuggin god this is brilliant. i've been doing something similar with markers and it just doesn't turn out. this makes so much more sense.
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Biana117 [2011-01-24 06:18:47 +0000 UTC]
tired of your works?? perish the thought!! this is all very inspiring, way to take it to the next level
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Atariel91 [2011-01-24 06:14:29 +0000 UTC]
beautiful process work! I know its a very touchy subject whether digitally altering traditional media pieces is 'right' but I have to say I find it helps improve some pieces. Its deciding whether you actually NEED to digitally alter a piece that matters.
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Bat-Lass [2011-01-24 05:05:11 +0000 UTC]
My mom loves you eternally for quoting 'Shane'. I just thought you should know that.
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toerning In reply to Bat-Lass [2011-01-24 17:05:57 +0000 UTC]
haha aw yeah I got me some american history, baby!
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LightlyBow In reply to ??? [2011-01-24 04:52:25 +0000 UTC]
Ooh! I was really curious about this, thanks for posting!
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ilsung [2011-01-24 04:18:48 +0000 UTC]
i'm really enjoying these tutorials, actually. you have a really interesting process.
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Mizzy-chan [2011-01-24 03:29:35 +0000 UTC]
OMG!! I wanna do this so bad now!
Now I have to wait for the perfect assignment to do this for!
Thanks for posting this!
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toerning In reply to Mizzy-chan [2011-01-24 03:36:01 +0000 UTC]
haha grrrl if you wait for the "perfect time" it's gonna disappoint! You have to just mess around with it
Thanks!
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Mizzy-chan In reply to toerning [2011-01-25 01:49:07 +0000 UTC]
Right now..awwwwh man..It must be done!
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mjOboe [2011-01-24 01:19:06 +0000 UTC]
jeez, you're so SOLID. Like, in your style and the paths you work. Just like, BAM, and then it's awesome.
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PeterDonahue [2011-01-24 00:47:21 +0000 UTC]
great work, cool process! I LOVE your palette in this piece.
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hilarity In reply to ??? [2011-01-24 00:07:58 +0000 UTC]
I love this deeply. The more you post the harder it is for me to not devour my screen.
I may have to give it (uhhh 'shopping, not eating my screen) a try and see if it gives me willpower to actually do backgrounds on a regular basis. If I could create even part of an environment as engaging as yours, I'd probably die happily.
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toerning In reply to hilarity [2011-01-24 17:06:51 +0000 UTC]
oh man I would LOVE to see what you did with this!!! Your draftsmanship is so freaking good it would be such a treat to see it in a full environment!
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toerning In reply to rinariin [2011-01-24 17:07:01 +0000 UTC]
er no acrylic paint and photoshop.
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Thisper [2011-01-23 23:27:13 +0000 UTC]
Wow! I like the blurring of the background. Makes it very photo-like
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ShimmerStar [2011-01-23 23:11:33 +0000 UTC]
That looks really cool - I love how the foreground pops out! And it's nice to know your process.
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pd-inc [2011-01-23 22:11:45 +0000 UTC]
Your art is so inspiring,.. I love this technique, makes me want to take out my cheap watercolours and give it a shot!
I love your sense of colour and light, unlike me you're able to paint environments that aren't just monochromatic haha- (thats one department I really have to work on!)
Thanks for all these tips and just posting your wonderful art,
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kingkibble [2011-01-23 21:25:53 +0000 UTC]
This is an awesome tutorial!
I think that we should use whatever tools we have to make the best looking art we can-sometimes it's digital, sometimes it's traditional. THEY'RE JUST TOOLS, geez
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13Mirror [2011-01-23 21:13:23 +0000 UTC]
Awesome!
This will be a great help for me!
Thank you so much for making this!!
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dobie [2011-01-23 20:14:42 +0000 UTC]
oh man i was so curious about this, thank you for sharing!! thought i have to say, i agree with greensprite about step 5 looking the best. the composition, the placement of the shadows, the height of the ceiling, it's PERFECT. the blur looks great in your other paintings but is taking something away from this one. it's a fine line you're straddling, and i have to say this is the most ingenious and classy mix of traditional and digital i've ever seen, but if you overuse the blur it'll just become a gimmick. just like not every shot in a film has a blurred background, i think you can make this series look cohesive without a blur in every picture. i love this and all your work though, you are such an inspiration!
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toerning In reply to dobie [2011-01-23 20:28:33 +0000 UTC]
Yearrrrr I know *sigh*
Basically I'm allowing myself to indulge in my gimicky fetishes cause this is a totally new process for me, but pretty soon I'm going to have to figure out a way to class it up. That said, I would have stopped if step 5 had been what I wanted to show. It wasn't quite there for me and regardless of taste level, I think I needed to take it all the way.
Thanks for the input!
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kapieren In reply to ??? [2011-01-23 20:08:16 +0000 UTC]
Very nice tutorial. Will become very helpful in my environmental studies!
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HoBoStIck42 In reply to ??? [2011-01-23 19:55:48 +0000 UTC]
excellent.
still not a fan of guns though
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TyphoonCutter [2011-01-23 19:54:20 +0000 UTC]
Hah, you spelled it "ditital".
This is a cool process you've developed! The digital and traditional media in your work looks great and integrates so well. Thanks for showing us how you do it!
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toerning In reply to TyphoonCutter [2011-01-23 19:57:16 +0000 UTC]
DARNIT no matter how many times I proof-read I just can't avoid those damn type-os. Oh well...it makes me human or something haha thank you!
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