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Tomozaurus β Velociraptor's Image Part 3 - Theropod parade
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Published: 2013-01-18 03:46:40 +0000 UTC; Views: 10464; Favourites: 90; Downloads: 81
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Follow up to this: [link] and this: [link]Sorry it's so big! Just don't zoom in all the way.
Yeah, this is the last one in this series, I promise, back to doing art that isn't rushed, stupid, and shit now. In any case, the idea just came to me and I had to do it, much like the other too.
To the people this is aimed at: please listen!
To the feathernazi's who are going to come in and go "but these guys were probably feathered too..." the answer is no. Let them have a few scaly theropods while they can, they might not be around for long.
Skeletals of Scott Hartman used, credit to him: shartman.deviantart.com
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Personally, because of Ornischelida and the discovery of pycnofiber-feather homology, I believe that only Herrasaurids and Sauropods were 100% featherless. Most other groups probably had feathers to some extent.
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herrasaurus (sorry if i misspelled) is a good substitute
or eoraptor
best the carnivorous sauropod of the Triassic Β (sauropod ancestors some were carnivores)
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Allosaurus, if you ask me, is a bit too big to fit the "raptor" stereotype, even if we assume it was 30 feet long and not 40. Β That's still twice the size of a Jurassic Park-style "Velociraptor" (the movie's website says they're 13 feet long).
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I'd personally feather all the theropods until we get evidence for scales. Either look cool. I love birds, so naturally, I embrace fuzzy raptors and t.rexes, but sort of hope some theropods was scaly, to appease my inner child. If not, we always have poposaurus.
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Carnotarus and all the abelisaurs are rretty hideous to me, they look like they ran into a wall after being made of clay, before it had set, they remind me of the frog-faced theropod in Arthur Conan Doyle's the lost world. They wouldn't wear a shirt in December. And you would back off from them in a bar.
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Well you've also got Carnotaurus.
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Whose scale impressions aren't actually that extensive
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And poposaurus,if I was adapting dino riders the movie, I'd have the openinscene of humans and starfish aliens riding feathered achillobators alongside poposaurs, and when they aren't ridden, they share a paddock.
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They may not be around for very long... A bit of me died inside. But, I made this funny meme.
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Good, but isn't Allosaurus a bit too big to fit the raptor stereotype? Even if we go with an "average" Allosaurus--i.e. a 30-foot individual, not a 39-foot freak-- that would be about twice the size of a Jurassic Park-style raptor.
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I think allosaurus was a bit bigger than that.
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Why not? Allosaurus was at least 30 feat long, at most 39 feat long and maybe just maybe it was 40 feat long.
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You do understand that the size of an animal is measured off the average, not the maximum, right?
If someone asked you "how big is a human" you would not say 8ft tall.
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Yea I know that's just how I usually restore it.
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This is especially funny given the meaning of "Allosaurus;" it makes me think like "oh yeah, and then there's this other guy"
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All theropods should team up and beat up humanity for underusing/overusing/misrepresenting them.
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Why wouldn't people want the scientifically accurate raptor as their OC? One can do greatly with a character with those conditions!
And yes, in case you do check, I know mine doesn't really fit that accuracy.
PS: Why not any other bigger Dromaeosaurus thought? Just because they have feathers?
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No point asking me, I have no idea why. No accounting for taste I guess.
Yes, no large dromaeosaurids as they would have feathers, I was going for animals that most closely resemble the Jurassic Park things.
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I remember the Australovenator. Β Heck, in a sci-fi book of mine, australovenators will be alive and thriving in modern day alternate Australia, where they're the reason for Dragon Fence (revision of Dingo fence), reason for introduction of Texas Longhorns and bison into the beef industry (since they are both hardy and can fight back the venator), and would hunt the feral species (such as camels, wild boars, brumbies, etc.).
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I think Megalania would be a better reason for the Dragon Fence (and harder to kill, too)
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Yeah. Β In this world, the venator arrived in the end of the ice age, when the megalania was struggling and the megalania was already rare and with competition with the venator, it went extinct.
But yeah, that would be a grand idea
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But it was thriving in its last days until human came along and I doubt that any other species was as genocidal...
The marsupial lion would probably go extinct if venator showed up tho, being in a similar niche.
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Like I said, arrived when the megalania was suffering.
In this world, thylacoleo survived, due to it's tree climbing skills that allowed it do survive.
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Except Australovenator could climb trees and was possibly arboreal (judging from its light build)
I think the Ridge Ripper would be the counterpart to Megalania.
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Is there evidence of that? Β Those claws look fierce and awesome (one of the reasons why I bring the species into my sci-fi series idea), but they don't seem to be useful for climbing trees, along with the rest of it's physiology.
Ridge Ripper?
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I am saying this because it had plenty of reasons to climb, there were the giant podocarps that could support an 500kg animal, and because animals far less adapted to climb (even goats) have climbed trees.
The Ridge Ripper is a relative of Australovenator, but twice as large in terms of mass, and with the same claws. A good reason for Australovenator to climb IMO (think lions and leopards, only this time the larger predator is much larger in proportion)
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Goats are descendants of animals that climb mountains and cliffs, so trees are nothing.
Ah, I remember. Β I did australovenator to make the dinosaurs in this sci-fi more small and closer to that of regular animals, to make them "regular" themselves.
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if you used the Ridge Ripper I'm certain the marsupial would be completely outgunned and the croc and lizard nearly so, so I get the point.
For the former point, what I'm saying is if a goat can get up a tree, theropods, being much better built for such activities, could have as well.
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In this world, the marsupial survived and I might add an extra reason for the ripper lizard to die out.
Well, in a sense, goats are climbers and there are theropods that can climb trees (like Velociraptor, who will be in Australia as well), but not all of them.
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If the two reptiles, with their greater adaptability, failed, I believe the marsupial would be gone, too.
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Well, the theropods won't be alone, there will be prey that the marsupial would find satisfying
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Like what? Remember that this thing was the ultimate for a carnivorous synapsid specialist.
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Like dinosaur prey. Β In this world, some herbivorous dinosaurs are in Australia with them.
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What I was thinking was that the prey base would remain but the sauropsids would be more efficient, so outcompeting it.
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The herbivores won't be extremely big. Β One would be as big as a camel, others as big as pigs and sheep.
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That is within prey range true, but I wasn't talking about prey.
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Hmm?
Oh and do you think thylacoleo would've LOVED the feral species roaming Australia today?
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They have feral buffalo in Australia, if the big three predators came back they would have a field day with them.
I meant competition rather than prey base, which I think would have remained.
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I asked that 'cause if usable DNA from Thylacoleo was discovered, I would say that's a justifiable reason for cloning it
Ah, okay. Β In my world, the thylacoleo is like a middle predator between the raptor and the venator.
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That is a conceivable role.
And yes, it is on my "clone back into existence because we messed up" list.
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Yeah, only issue is that since it's specialized in hunting large mammals, it means that our livestock and even us are at risk.
Yeah.
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I imagine that livestock guard dogs and covered enclosures (the marsupial may climb up but the top is covered as well) would save the stock, and cougar precautions would work well on Thylacoleo.
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For sheep, yes. Β But cattle would be another story.
Only thylacoleo would deb more like a jaguar than a cougar.
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Well it would be a combination of jaguar, raptor, sabre tooth, and Dunkleosteus.
Staying away from ambush points would probably work.
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If Australia's top predators were restored, the aliens would have a hell of a time trying to survive in the face of larger, more sophisticated competition.
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Or they would be acting like native animals for a change
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The big three land predators represent the limit-there can't be deadlier land predators than those (or the extinct theropods), period.
With the most sophisticated land predators in the world, the dogs would seem obsolete in technique.
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