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Trellia β Goth Type 15: The Metalhead
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Of course, the majority of Goths are unique in their style and music preferences. However, within the subculture there are certain "types" of Goth with particular characteristics. And it can be fun to classify them. Naturally, classifications for each "type" vary from person to person, so you may disagree with what I say here!No doubt, some people WILL disagree with me here, with including the Metalheads into this collection at all. Nevertheless, I think that these days there is a link between Goth and Metal. And most of the people who watch this collection or have faved my work seem to like metal, so it wouldn't be right to leave them out!
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I believe the word oft' used to describe those who sit in the middle is metalgoth... Ma best friend is an avid metalgoth
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These pictures about Goths are damn amazing!!!!I love it!
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I think that metalheads should not be listed in the Goths section. There is enough confusion as it is! I think that the only way a metalhead should be listed in the Goth section is if they have something Gothic sigificantly incorperated with them but many of us do not.
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Very true! I'm adding a blog post on my wordpress account, regarding metalheads.
I'd like to use this picture. May I have your permission? (I would reference you of course!)
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I find myself disagreeing that metalheads are goths i personaly believe that goth, metalhead, emo, etc. are all (while quite similer) different however slightly. i also think some can be classified as gothic and a metalhead. but what this is implying all metalheads are goths which i very much disagree with. though as i said earlier they are similer. i would probably classify myself as metalhead. do i like goth music and art? yes. could you classify me also as a goth? yes. but to say every metalhead is a goth. i personaly think not.
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I find myself disagreeing that metalheads are goths i personaly believe that goth, metalhead, emo, etc. are all (while quite similer) different however slightly. i also think some can be classified as gothic and a metalhead. but what this is implying all metalheads are goths which i very much disagree with. though as i said earlier they are similer. i would probably classify myself as metalhead. do i like goth music and art? yes. could you classify me also as a goth? yes. but to say every metalhead is a goth. i personaly think not.
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oh yah this is definatly me i listen to evanescence my chemical romance rammstein three days grace so i am allover the charts and metal heads are basically the same thing
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Actually, only Rammstein, out of the bands that you listed, are considered metal (Evanescence and TDG's genres are arguable however). Rammstein even leans more towards a more industrial heavy rock-ish sound though, so they're just vaguely metal. All the 'gothic' metalheads I know of really kind of listen to gothic, doom and symphonic metal bands, like Lacuna Coil, HIM, Charon and such...:S
Geez, whatever. It's just music, anyways. I'm not telling you to not enjoy it and that you aren't a metalhead, just pointing out the genre differences really. You can ignore this comment if you'd like
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i know im listing different genras because most of the people that listen to this different genres hate eachother
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Hate each other? I've never heard of that happening before. Which people have you met that have said that they hate others from the genres you listed? (I'm honestly just wondering because I have a friend who likes all of those bands except for My Chemical Romance)
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I know a metalhead who loves to go into a kind of retrogoth style when he goes to clubs just to creep people out xD
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awesome! love all your thoughts about this! great picture too! :3
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This is a really interesting thought....I myself am a metalhead!! and I see goths and metalheads as two different genres.... but I think there like a brother and sister kinda relationship....in many ways metalheads and goths hate the samething, for instance I was sitting at launch and I see these emo kids walking by I say "stupid emo kids" and a kid next to me said "ya what a bunch of pussies" I look and he was one of goth kids in my school. And both genres believe that there some of the most open minded genre around...(even thow they can be assholes to people for being different, like metalheads with rapers and goths with emo's)
Also they love the samethings as well, like the style, such as wearing lots of black and anything that would set them apart from the main croud. In the end I think if you put a metalhead and goth in a room they'll be fine with each other, now put some emos or rapers in that room and you'll see the metalhead an goth ganging up on them....it's most likely the metalhead would start it.....I think were abit more agressive then goths...might be wrong lol anyway keep up the good work!!!
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about your comment a month ago on trellias goth metalhead piece. i agree with what you said but trellia actually classifys emos as a type of goth. which i disagree with. clearly so do you if you say goths dislike emos. which i agree with. as well as metalheads (such as myself) hating rapers. but i just happened to see your comment after seeing both the metalheads are goths and the emos are goths and i felt the need to reply. sorry if you find this annoying and unnecessary. if not feel free to write back.
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Oh...Well thanks I did'nt see the emo one but thanks.
Also it's good to meet a fellow metalhead! \m/ rock on my friend!
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I am so many types of goth I've lost Count
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This is soo me!! Lol. I seem to fit in between a few of these categories though. ^_^ I love all these subcultures though. Great pics. ;]
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....but all it work verry good (all this types)
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Nope, itΒ΄s Hard Rock/Alternative Metal or Neue deutsche HΓ€rte.
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Hmm seems more like a slight spin off of metal which is a slight spin off of hard rock which is a slight spin off rock.... etc. Every gen got their ideas from the previuos gen thinking that is belongs to them lol
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*cough cough* Dude, or dudette, I believe that if you were paying attention to regular metal's lyrics, you would hear stuff about drugs, violence and war more often than "dark and spooky things" like in Goth music.
Not being corrective or anything, just saying.
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goth is the refined and mature cousin of metal.
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Well I'm not goth, but if I was, this would definitely be me. These illustrations are funny! good job!
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isn't "Goth" actually a metal subculture, and have the evolved from there?
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No.
The two are just belived to be the same, because they both tend to be dark, and because they have certain other similarities. As it's sated here, it's a complicated issue.
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aLL OF THESE ARE AWESOME !!!
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I think it doesn't matter as a goth what you listen, some listen to punk, other to metal, you even have the ones who like rock&roll (69 eyes).
And ps for the metalheads:
you have many symphonic and progressive metalbands and even powermetalbands who use the Gothic theme:
-Therion
-epica
-nightwish
-withim temptation
-sonata arctica isn't Gothic but it is famous by gothics.
and many others. -_-
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ThatΒ΄s me!^^Well....yes xD Although I donΒ΄t like to put myself into a category.^^
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Meh, not goth, but if I was, this would be me.
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Very nice idea you had, making these stereo types!!!
It's a lot fun to read, but...
ok i know there are a lot of people who said this before but as a metalhead I have to say it again: metal isn't a part of the goth secene
Ok well and as a german metalhead I have to add that Rammstein has nothing to do with goth xD
Actually the male metalhead looks really like they do, but the girl...
However, go on, it's really amazing what you're creating here
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I appreciate the long hair. I had an idiot say my long hair isn't metalheadesque and when he saw the photo of me with spiked hair on my license from when I was 16 he said that was more metalhead.
Although I am one of those metalheads that insists that there is a difference between goths and metalheads, I have to admit there are crossovers but don't EVER cross emo and metalhead, just don't.
My father introduced me to heavy metal when I was in elementary school using Iron Butterfly as the example. Now I'm in college listening to Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath, White Zombie, and any other old metal I can find. I still have to get my hands on some Iron Butterfly to add to my collection. I don't like new metal or any music from later than 2000. I'll listen to any form of rock or metal (but not hairmetal) from the 90's and earlier though.
And I love the little illustrations, they are adorable representations of metalheads. The look on his face is perfect. Did you use vector to make them?
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Hehe, I'm liking your goth types so far, funny and informative
However,as a metalhead who is interested in and knows quite a bit about the goth subculutre i will say this: no, metalheads are NOT goths at all. I can go more in depth but still, no. Metalheads are far far far from goths despite them overlapping at "gothic metal"
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ITS MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE !!
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Even if there would be a link, the Metalhead isn't a type of Goth. Metal and it's scene is OLDER and you let them look like weaklings in your picture. Thanks to guys like you, many people have a completely idiotic opinion on Metalheads.
You know nothing about Metal.
Sorry if my english is bad.
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I really like your goth "types" cartoons! so adorable! I think I tend to fall into this one.. and that one and.. er uh, what was that other one back there... he he :smile
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If I wore more black, I'd probably be this.
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I'm a Metal-Head, and I have looked over alot of your work and while most of what you say is off or inncorrect, you do get certain key points correct.
Also, I respect the fact that you had the decency to say you were stereo-typing these genres instead of just vocating your oppinion and acting like it was a fact.
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I said this earlier in a reply to someone's comment but I guess I could say it again. Haha.
I like this type especially. Many people on both ends of the elitist spectrum (both metal and goth) argue of having no ties with either side. But, most average members of either subculture (that don't take themselves too seriously) would know this is far from the truth.
I've met plenty of goths (meaning those who have spent a large amount of time at goth clubs/events/gatherings) that DO like metal (and quite a bit of it, I'd say). Even at Wave Gotik Treffen you'll see bands such as Virgin Black listed alongside with other bands such as Alien Sex Fiend, Diary of Dreams, Demented Are Go, and VNV Nation. You'll find that many Goths today have very extensive taste in music (even if all of their music is considered "acceptable" within the scene). This can be primarily related back to the adoptive nature of the goth subculture.
Even those hailed as the "pioneers" of the goth subculture vehemently argued against being associated with "goth". Yet, 30 years later you've got black clad freaks everywhere these days listening to their music. The same goes for Industrial, EBM, Dark Cabaret, and Deathrock. All those genres/scenes started out as entirely separate entities and were later adopted by the black clad masses. Later on to be blended in with and associated with the goth subculture. Like it or not, this IS happening with certain sub-genres of metal.
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I've always considered myself a cross between a metalhead and a gothic rocker, and this seems to describe my style considerably well. xP
The guy's face is epic, by the way. xD
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do metalgoths listen to evanescence?
are there goth stereo types that listen to evanescence?
i would really like to know...
yours faithfully,
a confused young goth
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thing is guys goths metal heads and all that shit arep retty much the same they are the last rebillon in the new generation
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I don't understand why any logical thought would have METAL included as PART of Gothic culture, when heavy metal, along with its various forms and styles, far predates the onset of "Goth."
As far as I can tell (also backed by some of these posts) Goth is a darker, brooding spinoff of Punk more than anything.
Heavy Metal came before punk. Therefore, Metal cannot be a sub-ANYTHING of something that it predates. That is, in a manner of speaking, akin to saying that Dinosaurs are a member of the Bird family, when, though doubtlessly related, you are referring to the RESULT as superior to the ORIGIN.
As much as I hate to admit it, yes, style-wise mostly, the two do overlap. But they are far spaced ideologically as well as musically, and since Metal is, above all, a MUSIC style, they cannot be referred to as anything more than spinoffs of each other, often confused for one another by an ignorant public.
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i wonna argue but black metal kinda had a part at merging it.
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