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Now this is a topic I've been dealing with for some time that needs to be distressed. It's a very common problem you could find in a number of places and everyone has seen or has even been the cause at least once. I'm talking about overpowered, unoriginal, or poorly written characters be it fan made or original. This is something that has always bothered me, not because i believe it to be annoying, but because of the wasted potential due to some people not giving time and effort into their characters. why am I bringing this up now? Because something happened that shows just how bad something like this could get.about a week ago a new acquaintance of mine had posted on a somewhat known deviants page by the name of Kechi. Kechi had recently posted a journal simply stating that his character is not a Mary-Sue..more on that later. My friend posted a reply on the journal with no intention to insult or hurt Kechi, but to simply tell him her opinion about the character and pointing out faults. Kechis reaction? insulting and yelling at her, then he deleted both the comments and the entire journal to hide the evidence and blocking my friend. My friend however, would not let these immature actions go so easily. She later posted a journal with details on what exactly happened and an extended version of her critique she posted on Kechis page. Kechis response? Making a journal insulting my friend even further and sending his blind goons after her with nary a reason and all the venom. He demanded the journal to be taken down and reported, acting like a toddler throwing a temper tantrum. A 20 something year old man sending mooks to attack a teenage girl, THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE.
more information on it here fav.me/d7scnib
Everyone is entitled to an opinion and an idea with not one ever being the "Right" answer. some people may like a bit of column A while others prefer column B, that's the way it's always been and many people have learned to live with it. The thing is, even if you worked hard on your character and tried to iron out a good, clean character, it's always a good idea to listen to others opinions on your work. Think of it like a teacher grading your paper, pay close attention to what they say as it could lead to some useful advice that could better your work. I personally would appreciate people sharing their opinions and advice when it comes to my work and even encourage it, sure it might hurt a little, but it can better ourselves.
Kechi chooses to ignore others opinions and anything that doesn't say "she's amazing" or "OMG I love her!" is an insult and must be terminated. Kechi and his goons took and twisted her words making her sound like some kind of bad guy and some of them even came in only insulting her and threatening her, demanding that she stopped and took the journal down.
Neko had not once insulted or offended anyone in her journal, she only gave her honest opinion on the situation "I commented :a mary sue is not an real insult.It is simply describing a female character that is unoriginal,over powerd,rip off and down right a little Miss Perfect." ( XNekoCakeRawrX) does that sound like an insult to you? that sounds more like an explanation to me and the thing is she is right. you see the bio on Kechi up there? UNEDITED! i simply copied and pasted from Kechis bio on his own page.
I'll let Neko summarize it for me
"You make Kechi a goddes and a princess not to mention all forms an powers you gave her.
You made her french because apperently it's sexy but in reallity it's not gonna make your character any better.
You gave her M cups wich is way to much for a woman to handle.
You ripoff Sonic,Meroid,Kill la Kill etc. wich is unoriginal.
You character is a Mary-sue"
that wasnt even an opinion, at this point it's just facts now. Kechi has no weakness, and every time one appears, he adds some bullshit to cover it up.
Making a character is like baking a cake. There are a million and one different kinds of cake out there each made vastly different from the rest. you have to use just the right amount of ingredients for the cake to come out the way you want it. not too much, not too little. Kechi, to put it bluntly, was adding way too many ingredients at once, spoiling the cake. then he adds way too much frosting in hopes of covering up the mess underneath. He then goes and adds pure solid fruits and other condiments as he pleases. that metaphor refers to ripping off diffrent franchises.
fav.me/d7r61awThat blue armor? looks a lot like Kill La Kill (Hell, Kechi La Kechi? Unoriginal)
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A daughter that travels through space in power armor and works as a hunter? She even mentions the original source.
the list goes on.
Don't get me wrong, it is okay to be inspired by a franchise and use ideas that you like. Hell he almost passed with the Metroid rippoff with his explanation of it. but the problem is he's using too much of it.
If you like an idea, Good, if you want to use it, that's fine. Nearly every idea has been done by this point and inspiration is always the first step to an idea. but you cant just use the entire raw material.
you need to piece it out, take what you like and what you dont like. Try to piece it back together and see what works and what doesnt and use the core element you want.
Now a lot of you are probably wondering about the character on the right. Who is this character? what does she have to do with anything? am i trying to say my characters are much better than his? No im not. this isnt even my character, i just made her up on the spot inspired by what was in front of me.
inspired by what you may ask?
INSPIRED BY YOU, KECHI
While I was looking at your profile, I was actually interested in a few ideas you put in your character. I took a handful of them and used them to create a brand new character, inspired by You, in honor of You.
You dont need so many things to make a good character, you just have to give it some thought. And there's always room for improvment. and others can really help.
I'm not here to hurt you Kechi. I want to help. your character could be something amazing, she just needs a little work.
go ahead and send your goons after me if you want, but you need to be honest with me here.
im asking you. critique my character, tell me what you think needs worked. i wont mind.
Kechi belongs to
also a shout out to and for bringing it to my attention and filling me in on the details
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No no no seriously I was having a similar discussion with another guy. As for that Mickey thing... don't look at me I've just met people stupid enough to call him that!
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THIS is why I respect people like you. I've had people critique my main persona, Lila, several times. Most of those critiques I took in consideration. Her fire ability and the fact that she is part fairy was inspired by the cartoon Winx Club. But I was also inspired by some of my close friends on Facebook and DA and their OCs. I was mainly inspired by the Sonic characters and their designs, however. Plus, she has more weaknesses than strengths, and her bio and backstory are a little WIP. Nice character, btw.
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It's always best to take the codification of others into the development process.
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I loved your How-to up there, I read it often.
This is so late on the topic no one will probably read this, but I'm an over opiniated oaf myself, and I've been wanting to add my own opinion on this issue eversince I first read it...so why not?
What bothers me more is that everyone here is too busy defending/rallying against this (adjective subtracted) character and have glossed over that fact that this Kechi person was acting like a complete rude douch when someone was trying to be helpful. I don't see why he couldn't have just told the person "Thanks but i'm not looking to change her; I like her exactly how she is." It's that rude self-righteous attitude that brings a person's characters underfire in the first place. At least that has been what I have seen. If the person commenting was being a rude douche themselves, well that would make any one angry...but this was not the case. If someone is going to act butt hurt over some fair and reasonable criticism than perhaps that certain person is too immature to be on the internet.
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I agree with you.
the thing is criticism is a very important concept when it comes to an artist whether it be positive or negative. it's what helps an artist better themselves and should always be taken to consideration. Of course you don't always have to listen to it if you don't agree but at least appreciate that someone decide to share their thoughts with you. And while yes there are those who are quite rude with their words or even those whose criticism is nothing but gibberish, there is no reason to be rude.
that said Kechi is an asshole when it comes to criticism both giving and receiving. he lashes or ignores everyone with any criticism on his character and story design while at the same time pushes his ideas onto others by force. he's even been known to send out his "white knights" to attack those who say anything bad about him or his character. it's rather disgusting and very unprofessional
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You're absolutely right; It can be tough to hear criticism, but that doesn't justify rude behavior. It's how one deals with it that shows their maturity (A certain Princess Shadow rip-off character comes to mind...)
This Kechi person sounds awful. And 20 years old on top of that! Him, Princess Elizabeth013, Yoshiwii1--These kind of people bring the Sonic Fandom down and make their fellow fans look bad.
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i actually had a run in with yoshiwii1. dude was nasty work. in fact the run in was with this picture.
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Ah, yes, I read his comments down there, which I found to be really hypocritical. This is the guy that won't let anyone accept anything that isn't Sonic+Amy, and calls people "not real fans" if they do. Which I guess i'm not a real Sonic fan, because I've always preferred Sally. But he's preaching to you--about control; the person who went to anti-sonic/amy groups and started acting like a major pest, Mr. if-I-don't-like-something-I-wont-comment. Well, it's none of his business how I feel--or anyone else--about Sonic and amy.
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you best not mess with him "he's like a rattle snake"...
but in all seriousness yeah the dude was a huge hypocrite when it comes to critic and his whole bullshit of "if you have nothing nice to say then dont say anything at all". something that he clearly doesnt know about.
even afterwards he went on to send a note to a good friend of mine saying that she needs to control me and shit. Kechi pulled the same thing with the same friend telling her to control me. cowards cant even fight their own battles.
this also goes into the whole thing about minding ones own business. how he acts towards those who have a different opinion or headcanon than him is completely unacceptable.
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It figures he would defend Kechi.
I'm sorry that you and and your friend have had to deal with both of these bullies. (I have another pal who had to deal with Princess Elizabeth013 for getting some of her friends banned for no reason.) Ugh! These guys are seriously warping my childhood love for Sonic!
But, that aside, it was cool of you to stand up for your friend so strongly.
(Hey,did you mention that this character design was a rip off someone else's character named Venus the Hedghog? I though I read that in here...)
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yeah i heard about venus. but it wasnt mentioned here though.
the thing people tend to forget about being in a fandom is that they are the first wave to others when it comes to representing a series. The thing is, I love sonic, I love steven universe, and I have no malice against MLP. I've even seen all of the amazing fan works made by the fanbases. but the first thing people see based off these series are the fanbases, and usually degenerates like kechi, yoshiwii1, akai and others are always pushed towards the front to be seen resulting in a negative outlook by others.
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It isn' fair, is it? All theses brats get all this notoriety, this fame and stardom for being rude arrogant pricks, and others have to put up with it. I'm sure a true sonic fan would be disturbed, maybe even outraged at the way Akai portrayed Sonic. I know I was. I don't care about pariing fan and canon characters together, but she....well, she was; hm...there's no nice way to say that Akai the person was creepy. It seems it's their awful behavior that gets them notice and not their "art", with the acception of Akai.
Hey, my first actual Sonic oc was inspired by Princess Elizabeth! I made some truly awful ones when I was really little. But aftergetting familiar with Her High and Mightiness, I figured I should try again, because I couldn't possibly make a worse character than her even if I tried! He's nothing special but he's mine.<3 After all, I was a hardcore fan once.
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the thing is everyone has different ideas and interpretation with a certain series or franchise. but some people can go from an interpretation to just plain obsession. akai had an idea of what sonic was like essentially claiming him as her own. same can be said about yoshiwii1 with Amy, he was nuts for "his" version of amy claiming it to be the real amy. this kind of creepy behavior and disturbing fan interpretation can lead to some negative views of the fans. and their notoriety of their so called fans as well as the hate for them makes them infamous leading to them being the first and more easily seen part of a fandom. just like how all the people in the mlp fandom are said to masturbate to the characters or even make porn of them when really thats only a very small part of the fandom while the much larger majority of the group are respectful people who greatly look down on the minority.
same can be said with the furry community and how everyone thinks they only draw furry porn, wear fur suits, and fuck animals when they're really just a bunch of nice people who just see themselves differently.
or the sonic community where everyone thinks its just a bunch of rude assholes with terrible fan characters when the reality is most of them are nice people who try to work hard on their characters and what everyone sees is the minority who are infamous for what they do.
its alright that your character didnt exactly have the ideal start, not everyone starts out strong. but as long as you can admit you need practice and you're constantly working on your character to improve them then you're okay in my book
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Those mentioned people certainly don't help the image of the fanbase. Their behavior is inexcusable.
Oh, I saw a rant on Kechi recently and even found someone's journal; I underestimated him; he is a far more TERRIBLE person than I thought! The whole deal with him is disgusting!
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trust me he's a trash pile
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I know he is, but I had no idea how low he really was!
Well, I'll should stop wasting your time now, but it was wonderful to talk to someone new. Thanks for listening to my thoughts. And more power to you for outing a bully!
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that's alright. thank you for your time
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I find this need that people have to grade OC's utterly baffling. It's like grading someone for there taste in music or the order in which the eat their meat and vegetables. I can't think of one occasion when I've thought "Somebody should tell that person not to have that fantasy persona" I see this a lot in the MLP fandom. if someone wants an Alicorn OC a whole group of people will shake their fists in rage and yell "Mary-Sue!" as if what people fantasise about being is the glue the hold society together and wishing for more we bring about the societal collapse.
People dream of being more than they are. No-one is perfect, plenty of people wish they were. The message I take away from this and the MLP fandom is when you create a fantasy avatar of yourself it must be as unimpressive as you are and you must emphasise the negatives. Look at you A-rank candidate, The first and most noticeable things about her are her buck teeth and goofy clothes (She looks more like a cosplayer that a warrior), she can do cool stuff but you need to read the text to know that. I'm not saying that makes her a bad OC, I'm say that holding that up as a gold standard for OCs sends the message "Your OC should not look cool", especially in contrast to your F-rank choice. In answer to your question yes it is an insult to say your character is unoriginal, overpowered and down right a little Miss Perfect. Unoriginal has the barest amount of real critique as it is a measurement of creative quality. The other two are simple attacks for not bending to an unofficial law that avatars must be flawed to suit your preference.
The strange thing is that if you back not even a hundred years having totally pure and sometimes totally invincible mane characters was the norm. Jean Val-Jean, Superman, Sir Gallahad (And some versions of Sir Percival), Odysseus, Beowulf, Oliver Twist, Lucy Penvency, Howard Roark (at least according to Rand logic), Henry V, Mina Harker, Tarzan, Snuffkin and even Sherlock Holmes fit the Mary-Sue trope to various degrees. People wanted their characters to be moral examples and moral purity was sometimes manifested as physical purity. The idea that your all your characters must be intensely flawed is a very 20th century idea. Heck even in the later 20th century Optimus Prime, Link, Goku, and to a lesser extent Mario all fit this bill (Though Goku's stupidity is defiantly a flaw). So if near perfection is so tolerable in our heroies then why is total perfection so immoral in our personal fantasies?
(I write these request for tolerance in full knowledge that I am talking to someone called Zerotollerance).
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My thing with this is that I would say to critique or not to critique depends on what the creator of a character wants to eventually /do/ with said character.
If you make a character, and it is simply just for fun and to barf out random ideas of awesome (I've done this XD), and if that is all you ever intend to do with that character, by all means, random-awesome-idea barf away.
But it is when you create a character, and want people to start taking that character /seriously/ (like is the case, it appears, with Kechi) /that/ is when you need to start trying to get your ducks in a row. If you make a character that is all glitz, power, perfection and is the most sexy-awesome-badass in the entire universe, others will have no way to relate to that character, and will dismiss it out of hand. But if you have a kickass awesome, beautiful badass who is all bluff and personally doubts themselves (even if they don't show their doubt to anyone but the audience), you instantly have a trait people can attach too, which gives them some reason to actually invest interest in a character. Because /anyone/ can create a Mister or Miss perfect, but they tend to be down right boring to anyone but their creator.
If you make an invention you intend to be used, but you just throw on every cool piece of doodad you can think of, and give it no planning, it won't work, and no one will take it seriously.
If you try to build a fun house that you intend people to actually be able to use, but you just put every kind of wacky fun into it you can think of, and it's not actually livable....no one will take it seriously.
Now, this isn't to say that Mister and Miss Perfect can't be useful characters, however. I have seen some comics that have characters exactly like what a full blown Mary-sue would be....but do you know why the work? Because you get a few pages or even less into the comic, and realize....the writer doesn't mean for you to take /any/ of this seriously, and they don't take /themselves/ seriously. This is all about the ridiculous and making you laugh till you fall out of your chair.
So really, I think 'whether or not a character should be "Graded"' really depends on what that character is eventually meant to be.
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ok first off i get the feeling you believe that kechi was a character i made specifically for this example, but i should point out before i begin that Kechi is an actual character who belongs to a certain horrible person of which i had mentioned in the description. so before you go labeling me as rude i recommend you get the whole story straight. also if your going to start insulting someone, make sure you can spell correctly, i see enough spelling errors that if this were a test i'd fail you (you couldn't even spell my name right when you had it available.)
you seem to have the impression that i believe that a character has to be as dull as a shed knife in order to be an actual character but i have not once said that. now i don't know what an "alicorn" is but i'm just going to assume that it's like some kind of god tier character and i'm pretty sure i've not said a thing about what kind of character they are or where they came from. hell even some of the more interesting characters are classified as gods or rare deities like Thor, Palutena, even Amaterasu. all three are gods and yet are still perfectly developed characters with values and personalities.
I understand that people use their imagination to help escape the horrids of the real world, believe me I do the same just as much as the next guy and I greatly encourage it. when it comes to your imagination you can do whatever the hell you want. You want to be a princess? go ahead, want to be a god? be my guest, your limited by your sense of imagination. but the thing is that if you want to have a defined character, then you need to explain how they got there. I did not once say that there must be flaws and the character must be boring and as dull as you are as you say. i simply said a character must be balanced with both the good and the bad.
when it comes to my so called A rank candidate I never intended her to "Not look cool" nor did i intend to for you to understand her character at first glance. I simply meant for her to be an example on how to explain a character. the first thing you mentioned is her buck teeth but here's the thing...she's a rabbit. isnt a typical stereotype about rabbits is that they have buck teeth? (bugs bunny, roger rabbit, raving rabbids, ying & yang and their half brother yuck) so it makes sense that she has them, it's like pointing out that someone is wearing glasses or sandals. as for her "goofy clothes" you complain that it makes her look more like a cosplayer than a warrior/princess but you do realize that was the intention right? the idea of her clothes was for her to blend in with the rest of the people while not giving away her true identity, something i mentioned in the description. they werent meant for looks, they weren't meant for style or appeal, they were meant for practicality. she's not A rank because she looks boring, she's A rank because she has an explanation for her self. she could have all the fancy clothes, powers, and skills she could want, but she'll need an explanation for it.
this of course goes against the idea of my so called F rank candidate. as i mentioned before, kechi is not a character i made up, she is an actual character that belongs to who must be the rudest person i've ever met. I should mentioned right now that when i asked if using the term mary-sue and unoriginal as a word for a critique is insulting, i was being sarcastic. of course they are insulting and not a real word to use in this situation. but just look at that bio of hers, this was taken straight out of her actual bio with no editing whatsoever. Now what's wrong with this bio you ask? take a look at it again, all these powers and information sure sounds unique yes? but where is the explanation? where's the actual development of the character? half of the bio has nothing to do with the character itself and is simply there just to further inflate her ego. I dont care whether or not she's a god/princess/warrior/chosen one. what i want to know is WHY? WHY,WHY,WHY,WHY. everything she does for her character is literally done only to make the character look good, she uses words like sexy and beautiful to describe herself and wears the most provocative outfits not for comfort, not for practicality, but for sex appeal. she's a walking talking piece of pure fanservice fused with whatever anime or game that's currently popular just to rack a few more viewers in and is demoralizing herself for the audience. this is not a character, this is just a walking stick with balloon boobs tied to the end.
also i like to point out that of all of your so called "invincible" characters, you bring up Jean Val-Jean. have you even seen Les Miserables? he is nowhere near invincible, no one in that play is and you saw it then you know very well what i'm referring too. same goes for all of those characters you mentioned. they're nowhere near mary sue because do you know whats different between them and Kechi? development, character, explanations and upbringings. Super man was explained, tarzan had a understandable backstory, Sherlock Holmes had his fair share of problems as well (that dude did cocaine to relieve his stress) the same can go for your 20th century heroes too like link and mario, you do realize these guys aren't exactly invincible right? in fact they probably would've died years ago if not for the world around them giving them what they need which explains their strength. and goku had plenty of flaws yet was still over powered as fuck, but you know what? they explained that too. he trained to be this strong, he trained to save the planet. he didn't just get strong over night. so your examples go straight out the window pal.
you wanna know why it's accepted for these invincible heroes to be so god damned perfect? because they're not, they admit they aren't perfect, they admit they're nowhere near it. but that's what makes them so relatable, they have flaws to show that not everyone's perfect but can still be amazing regardless. they prove that rome wasn't built in a day and the only way to get stronger was by working your way to it regardless of all the bumps and bruises they get to achieve their goal. this is why no character is never perfect, it's not that they are unallowed to be perfect, its when they convince themselves they are perfect and choose to rub it into other peoples faces. you ever played in the park with your friends having a nice game of tag and when you tag one of them they're all like "nah ah, i got the shield of invincibility which makes me immune for 5 minutes" or think they're so goddamned perfect in everything? this is the kind of people i hate and this is exactly what a MARY-SUE is. so take your so called PERFECTION and shove it where the sun dont shine because there is no such thing.
(and yes, my name is Zerotolorance because i have ZERO TOLERANCE for people like you who see a critique and immediately think of it as someone who doesn't know what they're talking about and attack they're opinion without so much as reading the fucking content thoroughly before posting.)
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I am a bit late.
I am sorry if I seem a bit creepy like this, but I find it upsetting that Kechi has so many gosh darn abilities that nothing seems of a challenge to her. Absolutely no weak points. I don't like it that way.
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thats exactly what defines a mary sue. a character with not overall character, no consequences, and no overall conflict. kechi was over powered and poorly written.
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Yep, I have seen enough of them in my life.
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OMG MY HERO!!! 
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lol everyone knows kenchi at some point now, honestly i don't get it either, she is just a bunch of anime powers glued together and when the next new thing comes out it will be glued to it the same way.
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unoriginality at its finest. the thing is being inspired by another source isnt exactly new. but ripping them off is unacceptable
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Dude. It's his character not yours. Let him do what he wants with her. It's honestly none of your business what he does with his character. Just leave him alone and let him be.
If you don't like his stuff? Ignore whatever he posts. I don't like AkaiDalia's stuff but I am not gonna go on there and start posting hate comments. I didn't have to click on her art.
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I do not mean offence to Kechi, nor do i plan on "posting hate comments" I'm not hating on Kechi, i'm simply saying he needs to work on his character and listen to others opinions. this is an art website where people post their hard work so they can hear what others think about it. Kechi not only goes against this, but also attacks those who try to help.
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You are not in control of his art. It's his art, he is 100% in control of it.
You guys need to leave him alone. Let him do what he wants with his character. It's none of your business what he does with the character.
He gets angry because you guys won't leave him alone about Kechi. How would like it if I said your character here sucks? You wouldn't like it so why do it to someone else?
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i never implied i was trying to take control of his work, nor do i plan to. Criticism is not a hate crime, it's just an opinion. We are trying to help Kechi here, not once have we attempted harm.
By all means go ahead and tell me exactly why my character sucks! That's exactly what i asked for! give your opinion!
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No. I will not. Because I care about your feelings. I am only gonna say nice things to other users work. If I see anything I dislike? I will NOT even think about commenting.
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then you are missing the point of a critique my friend. A critique is suppose to point out the good and the bad of what the critique is about. if you only point out the good in something, then the artist will not have a chance to learn from his/her mistakes. My feelings are hurt because you wont give me a proper critique and are denying me a lesson that could make me a better artist.
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I am not gonna post hate comments on other users works no matter what. If I didn't like something? I will simply not comment. I should get going now. Because I said that if I see anything I dislike? I should ignore it.
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then im afraid you have neglected to give a proper critique. I'm sorry that your philosophy goes against what has helped many over the years, but if you choose negligence over helping someone who needs it, then i bid you good day.
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I care about other people's feelings. I am not gonna put them down for drawing their characters.
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the truth hurts, but a lie is a scar that will never heal.
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The truth does hurt. Something similar happened when I revealed a video about what Amy's creator said about Amy being created a girlfriend to Sonic. People get EXTREMELY PISSED at me and started posting hate comments. Going on my profile spamming, making all sorts of hate journals about me, people trolling/cyberbulling me, etc.
^^Sonic isn't about pairings or romance. It's an action/comedy platformer game like Super Mario Bros. I understand people are pissed about it but that is what the creators chose to do with Sonic.
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not sure what that has to do with anything but I agree, Yuji Naka did say that Amy (Rosy the Rascal) Rose was created to be sonics LOVE INTEREST (How far that rabbit hole goes depends on SEGA only)
when it comes to the Sonic fan base, I learned a while back that they dont like to agree on a lot of things (hell a majority of them still wont deny the complete retcon of Sonic 06 which was announced by word of god to no longer be canon)
People dont like it when they feel their theories and ideas of perfection are threatened no matter how whacky they are, you revealed you have first hand experience with this.
Kechi is doing just that, he even goes as far as using words like perfect and beautiful in her description. at one point he even shipped her with sonic himself.
what you experienced is exactly what we are trying to prevent, to help people realize their mistakes and let them know what theyre doing right and wrong. dont you think people need to open their mind?
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Actually it was Kazuyuki Hoshino who said it in the video. They just wanted a non typical boyfriend and girlfriend relationship to make it more funny and interesting.
Sonic never met Elise according to the ending of Sonic 2006.
My OC (he is his own character and not Sonic related) has a TON of flaws in him. He is way too sensitive, he gets upset easily (he has Asperger's), he is too emotional, he complains alot, he has no confidence in himself, he is always negative about things, etc.
^^Oh and my OC has a Spike X Rarity crush on Amy (she accepts his love but only as a big sister and little brother relationship). Amy is older than my OC (she is 21 years old in my Original Design while Sonic is 25.) Who is 19 years old. That's another flaw my OC has? He is TOO clingy to Amy. She always tells him to stay positive about things and have more confidence in himself.
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that may be what one creator said, but stories change over time and i havent seen anything beyond amy's crush on sonic in game. All I'm saying about this topic is yes, there is a bit of romance between amy and sonic, but anything beyond that is forfeit unless it becomes canon in game, anything else is biting the bullet and asking for trouble.
Now I have no idea how the topic went from critiques to your head canon to your OC, but I'm just going to roll with it and go down the list as you presented it.
now the thing about your character is on that first paragraph, it's all negative traits. Now i understand the importance of negative traits, after all, no one is perfect and shows how mortal one is. but if a character is mostly negative traits, then he is a dull character with no real attributes (AKA a Anti-Sue) you did a good job with making him mortal, but now he's too mortal. throw the guy a bone and try to balance out the good with the bad here.
another thing, you said your OC has nothing to do with the sonic series, yet he has a crush on Amy, who is from said series. so technically that does count as having something to do with it. and what the heck is a spike X rarity?
now i would like to return to the original topic please
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Isn't kechi a woman? (It says on her profile)...
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kechi is female
kechis creator is male
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On the user's profile it says "female"
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thats "kechis" profile
like a character profile for roleplay
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I did not realize Kechi was so immature.
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it's like a dog. it gets aggressive when cornered
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You did a very good critique, I agree with it.Hopefully they will see it and think about it.
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