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My redesign of Swampfire from Ben 10For the longest time I hated this alien, he was a walking contradiction, he was a plant that can shoot fire from his hands. How come he never caught on fire then and excreting methane was even worse for him as it should of made him as flammable as a dry Christmas tree covered in gasoline. It was never explained how he never avoided getting burned. And many fans have looked at him a cheap combination of Heatblast and Wildvine.
For this one, the black rock like parts of him are flammable and can create sparks to ignite them. This is how he fights with his hands, shoulders, and legs on fire. The sap around his head is the key to his safety from catching fire, it's non flammable and in small amounts covers his body. It also provides a good defense from any head damage.
For his look I combined elements of Swampfire and his Ultimate form while adding in my own ideas
This version's powers are also powered down. He can light parts of himself on fire, stretch himself, and heal from any damage. But what's gone is his chlorokinesis and fire blasts.
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I pictured what would happen if Ben actually turned into this version of Swampfire instead of the canon version.
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while I don't want to compare, but while I admit this version of swampfire is pretty cool and awesome(a counterpart to Heat blast's fire powers) what would you think his species would work like back on their homeworld compare to this:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHeuWs… .
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Very interesting video. Well I'd definitely have his sap play an integral role into how he fits on this planet. Maybe it can be a fertilizer for many of the plants and that's what makes it so they produce so much methane. These guys could grow in the only part of Methanos that has both plant life and rocky terrain. Which now is only 5% of the planet.
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That does seem like a interesting way to use his sap on a methane filled planet...by using it to grow more plants by some chance.
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Sweet redesign! But where's the "swamp" part of him?
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Thanks. It's the plant part of him.
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I seem to understand your point, but at least there is one thing that makes Swampfire good to me, his designed looks. (vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/be… , vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/be… ) Now this design looks like he could be the new and improved Swamp Thing. As a matter of fact, I can even imagine him in a swamp!
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you ever consider doing an ultimate version of this?
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wait there are a bunch of other aliens that make no sense like a sentient single celled organism (goop), and basically ghost aliens (ghostfreak and big chill) as well as one LITERALLY MADE OF FIRE AND MAGMA, but a non-flammable plant is where you draw the line? he could just easily have a similar thing to this with his plant body being fire resistant by nature like how certain animals have naturally tougher skin or certain plants can resist drought. being resistant to fire would probably be a package deal with the fire powers. otherwise he'd literally just set himself on fire and almost nothing else.
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The reason I can accept those aliens are
1) Goop - It's a living slime, not a single celled organism (looked it up) sentient slime is something that seems feasible.
2) Ghostfreak and Big Chill - Ghost abilities are easy to explain scientifically and with alien biology, those powers become possible
3) Heatblast - He isn't made out of fire and magma is a semi liquid state of molten rock. Heatblast is made of rock and exerts fire. If a crystalline alien like Diamondhead can exist, then it's not hard to think an alien like Heatblast can exist too.
My problem with Swampfire was the lack of understanding on how his biology worked. Logically, this kind of alien shouldn't exist. It's a plant alien that releases methane in order to shoot fire from its hands. But the methane is also released in small amounts throughout its whole body, which explains his bad smell. Methane is highly combustible, so if it lit its hands, its whole body would go up in flames.
I've backtracked slightly on this aliens powers but at least they make sense in the new version.
My newer Swampfire (slightly different than this one) secretes a non flammable sap that protects him from his own fire. Instead of shooting pure flames out of it's hands, it releases a stream of waste from his palms that is highly flammable and when Swampfire creates a spark, that's when the fire starts.
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If ghost powers and other insane powers (toepick, atomix,eagle, upchuck,way big,daimondhead, etc) are acceptable then I think you should extend that acceptance to swampfire
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Ghost powers are easy to explain, density control.
Toepick - Not gonna say anything about this one because OV Toepick's powers don't seem to match how they were described in Ken 10
Atomix - All objects, including the human body, can emit radiation. If the conditions were right, this alien would develop the ability to release more energy than everything else and have control over atomic energy.
Eatle and Upchuck - Their powers are simple to explain. When an organism eats food, the stomach digests certain things, like turning carbohydrates into the sugar, glucose. The stuff these aliens eat cause a chemical reaction in their bodies that turns the material they've eaten into exploding loogies or energy beams.
Way Big - Not really an explanation for big powers. But you might be talking about it's energy blasts. To'Kustars are made from cosmic storms. It's not too hard to believe that they still have this energy that created them still coursing through their bodies and they could develop a way to release it.
Diamondhead - His powers aren't that hard to understand. He's made up of a quick forming crystal that is durable but malleable enough to form whatever he wishes.
None of these aliens had powers that contradict their biology like Swampfire did. It would of been easy to state why Swampfire is protected from his flames. I did it, he was secreting a flameproof sap all over his body. See ? It's the easy.
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Toepick- I think he said it was gross and Toepicks body is kinda gross. He probably didn't see there face
Atomix- he creates nuclear explosions and basically small stars. Unless he has a natural atom smasher inside his body, he shouldn't be able to produce THAT much energy. NRG makes sense cause he's an energy being
Upchuck- the concept of eating things to blast energy isn't the weird part. The weird part that doesn't make sense is how they both can't eat normal food and they are connected to a 'stomach dimension'. Now apparently he's Kirby. Eagle makes more sense since he munches down on things to make a simple blast
Way Big-How is a being made by Cosmic Storms? Also if they were, why are they huge ultramen. Wouldnt they be more likely to become amorphous cosmic smoke like Goop on celestial steroids given there's no ground to stand on.
Diamondhead-how come if hes made of diamonds, hes so prone to being broken? And his ability to make diamonds/crystal form near him makes no sense given he doesn't just summoned it from underground, it forms from nowhere. If his body is malleable, also how does he have as much diamond in him given the huge things he's made
Ghostfreak- how was ghostfreak able to possess people? Instead if we're being logical one of them would get stuck inside them like that ben 10 game when you timed out inside a wall or get split into pieces. Also a specific goop can cancel that ability? How? Also his second skin thing only makes sense if it's basically shed skin, but then it's just as liable to BURST INTO FLAMES as his normal skin given there the same
If you can overlook most of these, just forget about complaining about sswampfire given there's even weirder creatures on our planet then a fire retardant plant
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Toepick - There's a difference between gross (as Ken stated) and so horrifying it turns you white. Never like Omniverse's Toepick, so I made my own fitting the gross description Toepick
Atomix - If we look at Heatblast being an alien made of fire and rock coming from a literal star then it's not too hard to believe that Atomix comes from a planet that releases heavy radiation, so the aliens there developed into organisms that also release a great amount of radiation as well.
Upchuck - Well Upchuck and Eatle seem to be able to use their abilities on command, so they could also be able to eat normally without having what they consumed turn into energy. I'm not a fan of the "stomach dimension" idea either.
Waybig - Yeah, all To'Kustars are born from cosmic storms. Just because they're made up of cosmic storms, doesn't mean that's what the final organism has to be. 99% of the human body is made up of oxygen, carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, calcium, and phosphorus, but we're not gases and metals.
Diamondhead - He's not made of diamonds, that was just Ben's name for him. Diamondhead is made up a certain crystal of alien origin, it's durable and solid, but not unbreakable. If you're talking about crystals appearing out of nowhere, then I gotta assume you mean the UAf Diamondhead, whose powers made no sense at all (like how that version makes a giant cluster of crystals telekinetically float) The OS and OV versions put his hand to the ground so the crystals could be channeled though the ground and appear where he wanted.
Ghostfreak - Well I'm not gonna pretend to be an expert on ghost powers but if I were to take a guess, I'd say that when phasing into a person, Ghostfreak's mind is partly integrated into the host's, enough to gain control.
I don't think the omnitrix would time out if phased in a wall or split. It knew not to time out when Ben was Ditto, it detected that other clones were elsewhere and canceled the transformation until all Dittos were together again. So the omnitrix must know certain scenarios in which not to transform back.
The second skin was an addition included by Azmuth to protect the ectoneurite transformation from being destroyed.
I can overlook those because when you first see them you can look deeper into the alien's powers and see how they work. When you tell me that a plant alien who releases methane can also shoot flames, my first thought is "That alien should look like this 1.bp.blogspot.com/_4otgOfL1Dy4… when he sets off the first flame"
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I think they meat that OV Toepick's face was so gross and ugly that it scares a person so hard that it turns them white.
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Like I said before, there's a big difference between disgust and horror at something. If Ken was talking about OV Toepick and not OS Toepick, then he'd say that "He even freaks me out."
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Toepick-if Ken did see Toepicks face he'd probably say something like 'that thing still gives me nightmares' so I'm guessing he meant Toepicks body was gross. Given his appearance, I'm guessing he smell HORRENDOUS
Atomix-alright you got that one
Upchuck-I found it's dimension stomach thing unexpected but to actually make sense when you look at the absurd things he EATS. He at a device that could destroy mount Rushmore and a ball of nanites so dense it crushed the ground
Way Big-Are humans born from storms of said elements? No. Plus given there's ULTIMATE WAY BIG(you have to capitalize its name) it means there able to evolve so I'd say it's more likely they live in cosmic storms.
Diamondhead-I know it's just a name. There was also a particular scene in the original where he repeatedly formed his crystals on buildings which don't have crystals in them. Molding his limbs into crystal weapons is fine though
Ghostfreak-Itd make sense to do that on certain creatures but how on humans? Or whatever Acid breath? Also given Z'Skayrs cloak thingy in Omniverse is implied to be made of a second skin given he just pulled it from a grove in his skin so it's a natural ability which makes sense given it protects them from a natural hazard.
Also dude there's man made materials that are fireproof. Swampfire could just easily cover itself in this stuff in a thin layer over there 'skin'. Also I can mention the real bombardier beetle which releases BOILING CHEMICALS.
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Toepick - I'm not sure Ken would describe Toepick's body as gross. A lot of people have seen Toepick and haven't described him as gross. Look at Swampfire, we know he stinks because it's brought up from time to time.
Upchuck - The reason I don't like the dimensional stomach thing is because Upchuck has never consumed anything that he stored for later, it's immediately converted into energy and spat back out. Talking about the Sub Energy Core Upchuck swallowed, if his stomach was connected with the others then they could've belched out the energy instead of just Upchuck. With the Alpha Nanite prison sphere, I have to doubt how canon the whole Heroes United special was. At the end, it showed the Alpha Nanite making a crack, now if we're to believe that happened then the Alpha Nanite would of broken out again and escaped from Upchuck or another Gourmand.
Way Big - I'm trying to prove a point. These storms develop the To'kustars but that doesn't mean the storms themselves have to be sentient. I don't believe the Ultimates exist in nature. No one can predict evolution and Albedo made the Ultimate Feature by putting alien DNA in worst case scenario simulation where it would evolve itself and an Ultimate would form from that.
Diamondhead - I know of one instance of building diamonds on buildings when Ben first discovered that ability. He shot crystals into the building and they molded themselves so he could redirect himself instead of crashing. I think in this instance Ben control the crystals to a certain degree after he shoots them and they form into what shape he wished for.
Ghostfreak - What certain characters, he possessed a lot of people, aliens and human. If it has a brain, he can probably control it with the method I already said if he can phase his brain to interact and possess others then what species they are shouldn't matter. The Original Series already stated that Ghostfreak's second skin was created by Azmuth. Omniverse changed that design to fit for all Ectoneurites so their designs can be more unique. Also how could they naturally develop a second skin for sun protection when only a small sun (one that barely lights up Anur Transyl) exists in the Anur System, so how can they develop an immunity to something so trivial in their star system ?
All they needed was one detail, just on detail and I would of been happy to ignored the apparent fire hazard that Swampfire first appeared as. If they would of shown for a moment something that shows how Swampfire is fireproof, then I wouldn't say anything. The sap or the thin layer of skin, anything.
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Toepick-most people who've seen it have also seen its face which would eclipse all other opinions they could potentially ever had.
Upchuck-since it introduces Shocksquatch, I'd say it's canon enough to count here. Given he ate that sphere of nanites, if it went into the stomach dimension then it probably would of digested.
Way Big-well I just perfer to think they are born in and live in cosmic storms. Also the Ultimates might not naturally exist, but there creation is based on natural means.
Diamondhead-he didn't shot any diamonds onto that building, they just formed from the building.
Ghostfreak-Z'skayr is shown having the second skin without the omnitrix involved immediately upon being freed and clearly knew that sunlight was deadly to him. I'm guessing Anur Transyl is very far from there small sun and Anur Phaetos is closer
I don't think the creators should go into detail on every alien species they primarily feature like swampfire. People would expect it more often and it'd create worse absurdities then a fire spewing plant
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Toepick - Which goes back to my argument from before, to see a face that horrifying, it would be described as terror inducing and not gross, that work is reserved for things that are nasty, slimy, and sometimes stinky. Can we just agree that they got his powers wrong ? If he was to be called something that matched his powers in OV, Toepick would be called Terrorface or Whitescare
Upchuck - If the stomach dimension existed and it did digest the Alpha Nanites prison sphere then that would ensure its escape. With something that powerful, it wouldn't be destroyed by something like digestion and every Gourmand would know about it's escape if it effects the stomach dimension.
Way Big - Ok, I can agree on the being born in and living in cosmic storms. I don't know if I agree with Ultimates being based on natural means, what if Humongousaur's planet experienced world wide flooding and Vaxasaurians took on a more amphibious form millions of years later instead of the weaponized version. Albedo couldn't predict exact factors of evolution so he had to make a system to have scenarios that would force evolution, not natural.
Diamondhead - Look at this clip, Ben is shooting crystals to form surfaces for him to "bounce" off of www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKxCme…
Ghostfreak - He only had that skin when he escaped from the Omnitrix then he tore it off. You're probably thinking of his real skin that he had underneath the sun proof one that looks very similar. Also I looked it up and Zs'Skayr never reacquired his sunproof skin. In the episode "The Vampire Strikes Back" Atomix creates a miniature sun through atomic fusion and it instantly destroyed Zs'Skayr youtu.be/qiOEOqeWEK4?t=25m32s . Also here's a screenshot of Anur Phaetos from one of the UAF games vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/b… not particularly sunny, is it ?
It doesn't hurt to learn more about aliens, it make them more interesting and gives fans a better understanding of how some powers work.
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NICE! and i agree on the fire thing also Swampfire is not the only fusion ripoff alien i mean Blitzwolfer + Ditto = Echo Echo Arctiguana + Ghostfreak = Bigchill, And back to your design, looks amazing and if it wasnt the normal swampfire (I like the omniverse one) IT DESERVS TO BE AN ULTIMATE FORM, right?
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Thanks! Yeah they should of been a bit more creative with aliens or powers and not just make combinations of previous aliens. It's not that hard. I agree, this could be cool as a new Ultimate Swampfire.
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Oh and Man of action NEED YOU to work for them it would be awesome!
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Good redesign. To be honest i really actually like his regular design and would like swampfire more if he wasn't a literal combination of heatblast and wildvine. Like in my headcanon i try to give all aliens original powers and i have a hard time doing that with ultimate alien/alien force aliens because of how much they are blatant ripoffs of the original series aliens, which was one of the main problems i have with UAF.
I like that you powered him down and made him more original with his healing and stretching. Is there anything about regular swampfire that you think is original or no? Just curious.
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Thanks, I originally made this before I saw the OV redesign of Swampfire, which I really like over the original UAF one. It would be good for the UAF aliens to have some original powers because of what you stated. I tried to do that with some of my other alien redesigns that reworked their abilities to be a bit more original.
Well the original stuff I like about Swampfire is that his fireblasts are fueled by methane to differentiate him from Heatblast (though they needed to explain how the rest of him didn't catch on fire). I kinda like the Chlorokinesis, if the vines he makes are just grown and not controlled. One thing I like that they gave him in OV was that he could create thorn vines from his hands and use them as whips.
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