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My slightly redesigned version of Goop from Ben 10.
First of I got rid of his anti gravity projector because I never liked it as part of his anatomy. Always seemed like Ben was controlling the projector more than Goops body. The dark sploches in his body is acidic slime meant to break down anything he takes into his body. The Omnitrix symbol inside of his body is meant to protect it from outside damage and interference. I based a lot of his new look on Sploot, the purple slime monster from Ken 10.Β
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Interesting conceptΒ Β Β I made an Ultimate evolution for him. Mind giving your views on it?
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I personally like the original Goop design, but you make a valid point and redesign.
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it looks like a fusion of humungousaur and goop. but it is still vary good.
do you think goop well be in the reboot.
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I think he might appear
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if he does it would be for the 10 year old.
a 10 year old goop. wonder what that would look like.
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Probably just a smaller looking slime since he's shapeless.
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I honestly like this design a lot more than the original.
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Same here, I hope if we see Goop in the reboot he looks cool like this.
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Hmm...
Ironically enough, this is what I imagined Ultimate GOop to look like 
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Cool, though now I'm wondering what Ult. Goop's powers might be.
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We can think of something better.
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Okay...thought of EVO!Goop's powers being more based around being able to expand and constrast in size...though I do hae a thought with Goop's Anti-gravity thing post-Skurd. Since he fiddles with the forms as much as possible when he was attached to the Omnitrix...
MAYBE he changes it so that the anti-gravity device is INSIDE of Goop's body instead of floating over it 
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I dunno, don't you think that might be going into Humongousaur size growing territory ?
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I meant like making a body part bigger or something ;; you know big fist or something like that
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Maybe but since Goop is one solid mass of Slime he can't expand without reducing the other parts of his body. So maybe you need to look at this like The Blob, who grows bigger the more he consumes. So maybe Goop consumes or collects something around him and it makes him grow bigger.
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Makes sense to me. Maybe could be why Bloot got so big?
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Do you mean Sploot ? If so, he was created at a science fair and that might have some things he could absorb to get bigger
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Gotcha.
But yeah, the 'defying gravity' power Coukd also be from the rather light weight his material has plus the gravity thing
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True
Also...I know yo weren't 100% into the idea...
BUT I do think I know why Kevin really joined with GWen and Ben. (remember, Ben didn't fully trust him at first during the early parts of AF and he STILL did illegal things, so he wasn't just 'Boom, I'm good' like most are thinking he was. (I sometimes wonder if people were watching the same show as I was
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Actually I have a cool idea, Ult. Goop gets sticky and could shapeshift into a ball and gather objects like Katamari Damacy for shielding plus like those sticky goop hands in toy machines, he can grab something, have it stick to him and fling it at his enemy.
The thing about it that irks me the most is, would you ever want to be working with or even be near someone who tried to kill you when he was only 11 ? Another explanation could be that Servantis altered everyone's memories to downplay just how psychotic and dangerous Kevin used to be and that's why Ben is distrusting at first and not totally on edge like he should of been.
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I think the main reason why Ben was making sure to keep an eye on Kevin was because of the threat of the HIGHBREED. I think he would do an enemy-mine situation in that regard, especially if Kevin isn't trying anything. ;;;
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I'd believe that if it would of taken longer for Ben to trust Kevin than he did and Gwen didnt have a crush on him in the first season.
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I took it more as 'Gwen noticed his interest and used it as an excuse to keep an eye on him' sort of thing with that
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I'm Still scratching my head on how they saw some sort of attraction in each other. They are vastly different people and Im not even sure opposites attrsct applies here. Im still wondering how they're together in the future where Kevin has been trapped in the Null Void for years, had a son with another woman, tried to kill Ben again and also went after Ken and then somehow after all that they're together by the end of Omniverse.
I think Alien Force should of handled Kevin the way I made it in my reboot story. Kevin is forced to work with Ben and Gwen by being shackled with a control collar. Kevin is still as bad as he was before but he can't be as out of control as he was before. He acts like a jerk and uses his bad boy nature to get Gwen to like him and he saves Ben a lot of times claiming he'll be the one to end him.
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Again, I facepalmed when they brought THAT future into the UAF timeline...since it DOESN'T FIT! Again, I pointed out with other fans that the OS Ben 10K can't be the one we get anymore. Since, one, he had a DAUGHTER. She was NOWHERE To be seen in Omniverse so, technically, it's NOT THE SAME ONE! And Kevin in that would have been a VILLAIN still, not a heroic character.
So yeah....kinda taking THAT plot wiht a grain of salt.
Plus in UAF, Kevin got reformed a bit by Kwarel, who helped him become a lot calmer and less out of control and gave him a father figure he lacked, which improved him a lot more. And even taught him some of the other Osmosion abilities.
And yeah, I can kinda get that. Though I could kinda see Kevin slowly but surely starting to like Ben and Gwen, since he and ben DID start out as friends. Don't forget that; despite how crazy he was, he and Ben DID start out getting along until Kevin's axe-crazy mentality broke the friendship.
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Well at least I think it was better than trying to include Ultimate Ben 10K, that guy was really lame. I think the reason the original future was brought back was because it was the most well put together and established of any future shown. Though I do agree that it doesn't fit with the changes made in UAF. There should of been some explaination that could try to fit the two timelines together.
Yeah, but I still don't get how one prisoner stuck in the null void could help a psychotic, alien amalgamated, sociopathic 11year old with powers. All we get if I remember right was a slight explanation by Kevin telling Kwarel help but not the process. If Kevin lost his powers and was beaten up by other null prisoners and Kwarel was the only one to help, I would buy that, because that might teach Kevin some humility. I didnt know that Kwarel taught Kevin anything about Osmosian abilities, especially with the retcon that Osmosians are mutants and not aliens anymore.
Huh, I get you do have a point there.
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Ultimate Ben 10K, to me, was just a way to explain the idea of multiple Timelines. All I saw was a new future where Ben and Kai were married,money had Ken, Kevin is the head of a new take on the Rooters, Argit is the president and all that. That is the only logical point.
fair enough. But I meant that he Coukd teach him on how to keep a cool head and not be super emotional. Think about it: UAF Kevin was a LOT calmer and more at ease than psychopathic Kevin 11. And they did explain how Kevin went insane don't forget: it's because energy absorption messes with the head.
and that could help make a reform in your take make a bit more sense.
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Yeah but I think Omniverse kinda did it better with making alternate timelines as different dimensions.
That might help but from what I know about about sociopaths, that wouldn't help them overall. I don't particularly like the explanation of energy insanity because 1) The retcon shows that that explanation isn't true since Osmosians aren't aliens anymore and 2) I think the UAF writers wrote that so Kevin's actions in the OS could be justified in that he wasn't in his right mind when he did it, which I believe is a cop out.
For my take on Kevinn he's got some moments of being "good" but pretty much he's irredeemably evil.
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Actually...it didn't really FEEL like a copout BECAUSE it made sense...
at least to me. You see, most metahumans with absorbtion powers...TEND to have a nasty side effect. And given that energy-based powers tend to mess with da brain a bit, it would make sense that it made him go crazy over time. Heck, they explained that he went nuts BECAUSE he absorbed too much power from the Omnitrix and, again...that made sense to me.
Unlike Ben, who has something to CONTAIN all that power, Kevin didn't have it and thus the power from the Omnitrix's core messed with his brain big time. He has the raw power of the Omnitrix at his desposal so that's what drove him into the point of being THAT dangerously insane. He was always alone and felt that way because he was seen as a 'freak' and thus every made him feel like that.
SO I don't think he's IRREDEEMABLE. HEck, I doubt there are MANY villains who are that way
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Can you list any metahumans that are like that, because none come to mind when I think of any. Plus I never heard of the mind being affected by any power like that, it's usually the rest of the body that's affected negatively.
From what I remember, Kevin was way messed up before he started absorbing Omnitrix energy, hell he even tried to crash a train full of people jist to get money that was on board.
Originally he was irredeemable, I mean in the future even Kevin's son gave up on him and helped send him back to Null Prison when Devlin was the only one who believed in Kevin.
I get that villains have gone good, but from everything that was stated in the OS, Kevin becoming a good guy would never happen ever. He took delight in causing destruction and hurting others and I cant think of one villain that's been like that and become good.
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Parasite for one. Electro went crazy when he got his power-based abilities. And even in Ben 10, Darkstar was kinda like that
And understood. But there is one detail that I noticed I think is where Dwayne got the idea from: Those dark circles around Human!Kevin's eyes when he was 11. They were also on Aggregor, so I was thinking 'what was that meaning?'
I think those circles are meant to be a side effect OF his powers
Lets be honest on this: ANYONE can go crazy depending on the powers you get. And it's usually due to not just the power itself, but from extreme trauma that went with it.
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Ok I'll give you Parasite. But which Electro do you mean ? ASM2 ? Darkstar, I dont know about him. He acted like how a villain getting alot of power all at once would act.
I don't look much into stuff like that. Villains tend to be drawn with bags under their eyes to look more menacing. From what I remember Kevin didn't even absorb all that much eletric energy before getting exposed to the omnitrix and even before that he didn't Β absorb the energy of it, he took into the dna of two aliens and still acted the same.
I kinda agree with that but it also depends on the person as well because that's what defines heros and villains, what they do after they get their power. Kevin had so many factors leading up to being a sociopath, he ran away from home Β because of his scared parents and lived on the streets of NYC which would lead him to not caring about anyone but himself and gaining his abilities made him become even worse thinking that no one could stop him.
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ASM2, The 90s animated series, Spectacular...basically any adaptation of Electro
But here's the thing with Kevin: he never had anyone who actually CARED about him in that way. He ran away from home because not only did he scare his step-dad and mom, but because he kinda blew up their house. Ben was kinda the closest thing to a friend he had and that got botched because of his OWN doings. He basically RUINED his own life and basically blamed it all on others because he was too angry. I am just saying; Kevin basically messed it all on his own turf and never realized he was the one in the wrong because of the mindset he was in.
Kwareel, it seemed, was the only one who broke that through to him and Labrid sacrificed himself to save KEVIN. TWO people he barely knew stuck their necks out for him and the former of which actually became a sort of mentor for Kevin while he was stuck in the Null Void. And the latter was a COP who was basically having it that he was just a lead that he would later arrest with the FOrever Knights. So that's what got me thinking about Kevin's motivations at first with UAF:
When he first joined Ben and his friends, he was a lot calmer now because he was more accepting of his own past and basically knew that he was just putting his rage on others and basically isolating himself because of the fact that he scared everyone. THAT is what got him into that road in the first place and having two people who stuck their necks out for him could have changed that.
And in a way, I kinda saw that when Labrid died, Kevin only joined BECAUSE he wanted to at least pay back Labrid and move on with his life after. I doubt he planned on actually becoming friends with Gwen and Ben, it just kinda turned out that way.
My way of looking at UAF KEvin is this: He was just a conartist who slowly turned good because of two unlikely sources: First as a convict who wanted to break through to the new kid and help him out and the second was a cop who sacrified himself for the greater good. That's why I am OK with the idea with the Osmosions and why the energy-based powers did that too them:
To me, you cannot have something that can affect your body NOT affect your mind. It's implausible.
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ASM Electro was pretty screwed up before getting his powers and Animated Electro was the son of the Red Skulln that had to mess him up badly before getting his powers. I'll give you Spectacular because his insanity actually did happen after his transformation.
I refuse to think Kevin didn't have anyone who cared about him from the start. His parents might of been aftaid of what he could do but he was still their son.
I get that Kwarel helped Kevin but it was so quickly glossed over he helped that it seems almost unbelievable. Its like if Joker was cured by a new doctor at Arkham then became an ally to Batman. Who would believe that could be possible ?
I dont know about about the explanation, Kevin was way worse than just a conman and if he were to get better than it would be an incredibly slow process Β and not be due to two events. Also Osmosians arent energy absorbing aliens anymore, Kevin is the only one with energy absorbing powers (Aggregor was a laboratory made osmosian) and the rest have different abilities.
I'm not too sure about that, there are tons of characters who get powers that changes their body but doesnt do anything to their minds.
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Fair enough ;; I DO plan on expanding on what Dwayne may have had in mind since they DID Retcon almost EVERYTHING Dwayne did in Omnivere
Remember, I am more talking about my take of Omnivere when I do things XP I am planning on expanding what helped Kevin become more of the guy they met instead of just...well, glossing over it
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Thanks! Β Sure, tell me what you got.
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OK, since Your version of goop is based on Sploot then I think for his size he would be roughly as big as gravattack (Considering Ben is a teenager)
Another one I have is his species. Since he is a slime blob, he would be related to Gluto's. There are three different species, each which uses devices that help with their physical form.
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I'm not sure about the size, seems a little too big. But that size does seem perfect for his negative counterpart, Slimeball.
I like this idea. I always thought Gluto would be a Polymorph if his species was identified. This makes me wonder if I should put a modified anti gravity device back into his design.
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The reason why he's big is because Sploot is was big. But in resurrection, he'll be only half the size due to his maturity.
I think sploot doesn't need that gravity disc. The device inside him is fine.
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Ok now I get it. I'm fine with that if he's not towering over everyone.
I was thinking that maybe he would have a gyroscope looking device in the dark slime in his chest behind the omnitrix.
I looked up sploot and the ben10wiki says he's a science experiment gone wrong. I'm thinking maybe a student created a slime tether with modified poymorph slime that later mutates and took on a life of its own and became Sploot
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Maybe in Ben 10k He might be slightly bigger.
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That sounds like a cool idea.
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Improving this, since in the future timeline any remains of a villain are stored into Sector 15-D. One Student was helping a friend of his (who is a polymorph) recover from a strange disease, preventing him from shapeshifting and maintaining his physical appearance. When he takes a sample from one of Sector 15's Unstable DNA, the Polymorph winds up becoming Sploot.
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