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Published: 2013-08-28 00:33:09 +0000 UTC; Views: 5487; Favourites: 86; Downloads: 6
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NRG's alien form inside his containment suit zigwolf.deviantart.com/art/NRG… .There's been some changes made from his original look. Here's he more solid than being an energy being and instead radiates energy as opposed to being made of it. I also changed his arms to fins to control how he flies around.
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You forgot to put the omnitrix symbol on him.
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It's on his containment armor, since the alien and armor are still one being for this version, it stays on the armor when he exits it.
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Actually, It's been confirmed that he IS a physical being, and merely radiates energy and has intangibility.
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Where at ? The Ben 10 wiki says he's made of energy. The intangibility sort of doesn't make sense for him, if he radiates alot of energy then he'd probably melt whatever he goes through.
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On the Dwayne McDuffie forums, somewhere. Someone asked about it and Dwayne said something about how he just radiated energy, and his containment suit was made of the only material that he can't phase through.
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Well no offense to the Dwayne McDuffie but for a lot of the explanations he gave out for Ben 10 related stuff, I took them with a grain of salt. Some of stuff he said contradicted what came before it or seemed very strange even by Ben 10 standards. Not ripping on everything he said but a lot of it was hard to believe. Besides Derrick J Wyatt has come up with a lot of stuff that's rewriting what Dwayne had established.
So going back to NRG, he looks like he's made of energy because he has no black outline you'd expect to see on a solid object or person so this implies to me that he's made of energy, that and the fact that he looks a lot like 10,000 Volt Ghost from Scooby Doo. The intangibility kinda doesn't make sense to me because in Hot Stretch he cut open a machine before removing the core when if he had intangibility he could of gone through it and removed the core with no damage to the machine.
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Well maybe he can't make other objects intangible? That would explain why he couldn't pull the core through the side of the machine. And maybe he just glows? Like, Ripjaws's light doesn't have a black outline. Anyway, Dwayne also once said that energy beings don't have DNA, so Ben can't turn into them, but he can, of course, turn into NRG. Then again, Derrick has changed that, by saying Echo Echo is living sound :/ Anyway, they've both made a lot of changes to the canon, and all the contradictions bug me. I like to stick with the first thing that's stated, not random alterations.
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Well Ghostfreak could, he turned Ben intangible in Don't Be Afraid of the Dark.
Ok that's a good exception
That statement sort of bothered me, if energy beings don't have DNA then how did Verdona Tennyson manage to have kids ?
That's a good way of thinking, but there are a lot of new ideas that are pretty good in explaining stuff. I only choose to ignore things that don't make sense or changed what came before it like Kevin being a mutant who could manipulate energy to a half human alien who can cover himself in whatever material he touches and has limited shapeshifting.
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I dunno, the powers could still work differently.
Well, with Verdona having kids, I'm not sure. We know "The Spark" Is not a genetic trait, rather a mana related kind of thing, and that Verdona can appear human... maybe she has regular human DNA when she becomes a human?
I actually like Kevin's new powers, but it REALLY bugged me that they changed it so much too, and when they changed Upchuck's explanation...
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Yeah, maybe but I just think it's easier to think NRG doesn't have intangibility because then you have to overthink how it works on an alien of his type.
To be honest I never liked the mana aspect of Ben 10 universe. Plus it's a real headscratcher on how beings made of energy without DNA manage to be created, learn to control energy around them and then master the art of transmogrification to change into human beings and possibly other creatures.
I liked Kevin's old powers, it was cool to see him transform into twisted versions of Ben's aliens.
Yeah, the whole stomach dimension that links together all Gourmands was really out there
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Meh.
I liked it back when they just had ACTUAL magic, with no science attached, but the concept of mana makes a lot of sense to me. On the subjects of Anodites not having DNA, it makes sense to me; it's like, in the cells of all living creatures, energy is produced. That energy in mana. If you take a ton of that energy and form in into a physical being, with thoughts and such, you get an anodite. DNA isn't necessarily vital to living; we've just yet to discover any creatures that exist without it.
Me too, and Devlin's.
I liked how it was originally: Seven stretchy stomachs. Anyway, I think it's a good idea, in fact I have an alien that has a similar explanation, but it bugs me that they changed a perfectly good explanation into something that makes a lot less sense. I mean, with my alien, it has the power to suck things into a pocket dimension for storage, and then sucks them back into this dimension later to eat or use, but with Upchuck...
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Yeah I liked it back when they had magic by itself as well, then in AF they said it doesn't exist, then it does exist, then said that magic is an extension of using mana. Make up your damn minds!!!
I wouldn't have a problem with Anodites being all energy beings if they had evolved from organic beings into energy beings, but based on all the info we have, they've always been energy beings. I just wonder how the mana could of suddenly become sentient and these beings come into existence. I think there had to some kind of outside force or catalyst that help in the creation of anodytes. Sorry but I think DNA is vital, because I've heard it said that DNA is the building blocks to all living things, so a race of complex thinking aliens must have DNA in order to exist.
I wouldn't have too much of a problem with Kevin's powers if he didn't outright say that he absorbs energy in the OS and the show wouldn't remind us it a lot, if he would of said his absorbs everything, energy and matter, I would of been fine with it. Plus I think it would of been cool if had a different look for everything he absorbed, he look like Sandman when he absorbed sand and the Thing when he absorbed rock.
Yeah I think they really added that convoluted explanation for his powers for one one reason, a star wars line reference. Plus it takes away the purpose of him needing to eat to hock loogie bombs, if they're all connected through a stomach dimension then one Gourmand could eat while the other spits out the energy.
A hammerspace alien ? Cool
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(I'm quite enjoying this discussion! You're quite intelligent you know.)
I agree with all these points, except the one with Anodite evolution. I don't believe it's ever been stated how long they've existed; personally, I have the headcanon that anodites ARE physical beings, but they're on a different dimensional plane, so they don't have DNA in the third dimension, but it also makes sense that they could've once been physical beings that became extremely mental and came above the need for bodies.
My god, I'd never heard of Hammerspace, so I googled it and YES, that is wonderful! The alien, K98U, is a small, pug-like dog alien with a silly voice and cartoonish features, so that idea fits it so well! Thank you!
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Right back at you man! I don't think I've had this much fun in a discussion.
The problem is there's not a lot of information on them history wise. That's a pretty good explanation in your headcanon. I just thought of an explanation right as I'm writing this, Anodites are organic beings that have a connection to their planet ( ex. Avatar). Their planet radiates an energy, and when an anodite connects themselves to the planet they can manifest their consciousness as an energy being. They'll stay this way as long as they're connected but if they disconnect suddenly their energy self disappears.
Glad to be of help. Sounds like a cool alien, I'd like to see what he looks like.
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^^
Yeah, I sort of agree, and I like that explanation!
kinecelefan.deviantart.com/art… I had a pic stashed, so I just made a quick upload for you to see.
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No that's attached to his containment suit.
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Could pose a problem, if he ever needed to time out and wasn't near his suit.
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Well I imagine that when the Omnitrix times out it pulls NRG's body back, like how Ditto's duplicates pull together before he times out.
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..............But all the Ditto duplicates had Omnitrix symbols on them.
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Well he is still technically one being, though separated body from armor, so that's why only has the omnitrix symbol on his armor. I have been thinking that the omnitrix symbol could pop out from the armor with his body when he exits it.
I tried not to worry to much about the placement of the omnitrix symbol on both because in the show the omnitrix symbol for the armor is on the chest and for his body it's on his belt.
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Sorry, but all your Ditto argument had big holes in it, but now I understand, he wears the Omnitrix when he's out of the suite but this is the form he has in the suite, without the Omnitrix symbol, cause technically when he hasn't got the Omnitrix he isn't Ben.
I personally think that when he's out of the suite he should sill have parts of the suite on him like the round plate and tubes on his torso where the Omnitrix should remain in the same place, simple as that. I hate the costume he has on him in the show, and those spots are an awful idea.
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Well it was something I came up with as I was writing it so I'm not surprised it has some holes in it.
Yeah maybe he should have something on him when he exits the suit but with the way I reenvisioned NRG, his species always wears this suit everywhere except for their native planet so wearing radiation dampening armor or the stuff he has on in Omniverse would seem redundant. Plus he would never exit the suit unless he was forced to as a last resort.
I don't like the suit from the show either
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We seem to be on the same path with a slight misunderstanding : when I was talking about his costume I was referring to the costume he wears outside the armored suite, so that we can understand each other.
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I meant that one too, just picked the wrong wording for it. The design for his costume is pretty bad plus it doen't look like it can do what it was intended for, limiting NRG's radiation to keep everyone around him safe.
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Than we're on the right path! Yeah the radiation part I noticed myself, then comes the question: why in the world does he need that armor suite from the first place, when he has that costume retains radiation doing exactly the same thing?
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Well I think it's still a matter of safety. The costume keeps most of the radiation at bay so he's not poisoning everything around him but being a creature of pure energy he still has to give radiation. So he needs the suit to protect everything around him and keep his radiation in check.Plus I also think he wouldn't be able to interact with something without burning it, like Heatblast.
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You're right and I'm not contradicting you, but my question is: What is the point on having two layers of suites that have exactly the same usage, when one is enough? Doesn't that seams pour judgment, lack of imagination, bad idea and plain right stupid?
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Yeah I get what you're saying and it does. It seems like having it makes wearing the armor slightly useless.
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My point exactly! 
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That makes sense. But what if ben was in a bad situation, and couldn't afford to wait for it to time out? Just saying.
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Well like Ditto if he's not pulled together by the time the omnitrix tries to time out the timer will reset and give him a few more minutes before timing out again. So he just needs to hang on and try and fly away from his armor's gravitational pull for it to reset and he'll have 5 more minutes as NRG. But I think Ben could handle himself if he timed out, he's always been really good at improvising during fights when he's timed out.
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Good point. Sorry I'm being so picky, it just seems weird to see a ben 10 alien with no omnitrix symbol.
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Nah, it's cool. I'd be asking the same questions if I were anyone else.
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