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Published: 2015-06-16 20:30:13 +0000 UTC; Views: 4963; Favourites: 46; Downloads: 2
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Did this on my free time before graduation. That's right. I am gonna graduate (if I pass the Personal Finance final exam -_- Fuck.) Also, Pixlr sucks at doing what Photoshop does better. But I still use it in case of no Photoshop on any school computer.The Rave manga has ended with Haru and Elie getting married and having a son. I see less hate and more love.
The Fullmetal Alchemist manga, as well as its faithful "Brotherhood" animated series ended with Ed and Winry having kids. Again, less hate and more love.
Unlike both the Rave and FMA ending, The Naruto Manga finale, as well as The Last caused a controversy by having an ending when NaruHina, SasuSaku, SaiIno, ChoKarui and ShikaTema were canon. Because I see people bitching about the ending, especially anti ending people who were hardcore NaruSaku/NaruSasu/SasuKarin/SasuHina fans.
And this doesn't make any sense. Yes, FMA, Naruto and Rave are different shonen mangas made by different publishers and artists, but come on. Why the ending of Nardo is hated while FMA and Rave isn't when the ships are canon?
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Of course it was canon in the end of the manga.
And you're damn right about NaruSakus. Even though not all NS fans are like the extremists who are being like: "Give me NaruSaku ending or Give me death".
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I meant the obviousness of "Sakura wouldn't lay with Naruto even if he was the only male alive - she'd just find a way to clone Sauce back into life instead, lol".
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I havent watched Rave, But In FMA u pretty much expect Ed and Winry to end up together, as they dont really talk with any other characters romantically in the story.
In Naruto, Many characters are teased to end up together, purposely to fuel shipping wars and make money, so as expected people are going to be angry when their couple doesnt happen. Also, this is literally the end of FMA. While this is not the end of Naruto, This ending was made to make a spinoff series to make GUESS WHAT!
More money.
Chouji and Karui who have never talked before ending up together and having a kid, to make more characters for the series is an example of this.
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It's not like I wanted EdxWinry to be "forced".
It's just that people hating on the Naruto ending yet loving the FMA and Rave Ending because of ships makes no sense.
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Because ppl are dumb the pairings are pretty obvious NaruHina, SasuSaku and SaiIno, since this is a shonen manga in Shonen Jump with a obvious straight male (Naruto peep on women as a kid) NaruSasu (Sauce is the uke in the relationship if they were ever homo I can list reasons why Sauce is the uke) a yaoi ending is not going to happen ever if it was done by Clamp on the other hand. I understand NaruSaku but that should have stopped at the failfession. SasuHina can only work in fanfiction that takes place in a different verse then the Narutoverse such as a modern AU take on it otherwise Hinata gives no fucks about Sauce I mean when he said he was going to be the Hokage she looked like she is thinking about whether she left her hair dryer on at home and Sauce gives no fucks about ppl who gives no fucks about him. SasuKarin he needs to give a damn about Karin he actually cares about Sakura even when he tried to kill her.
Remember shippers, take into account your ships personalities and traits and if they can be shipped or not, Naruto is one of those chars that can be shipped with everybody and anybody and somehow make it work with canon personality or slight OOC, chars like Sauce and Hinata not so much. And when in shipping you win some you lose some as a NaruHina shipper I am proud of it, but I also lost many ships over my years of anime and manga some can't even be launched, shipping should be for fun not to be something to ban a series or be salty about.
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Well, my only EVER ship had won anyways, so - LOL!
And yes, OOC (or AU) is the ONLY way NaruSaku or SasuHina could happen ever.
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Because NaruHina had bad deveolpmetn
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You had a NaruHina avatar and you say it has bad development.
Explain your logic.
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He or She just answered the question of why some still argue over the pairing. They didn't mean the couple shouldn't be together. He or She still supports NaruHina^^
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Just because I support NaruHina and love the couple doesn't mean I don't have its horrible development.
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I don't think NaruHina had a good enough development throughout the series.
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I disagree.
It had perfect development throughout the whole of the series - yet it was RUINED by Kishi NEGLECTING that very development with further story.
While never regressing as much as Suckura, Hinata still looks like abandoning her goals now and then - and The Last is the WORST case of it.
That DUMB two-year time-skip makes NO SENSE, and I pretty much consider it to be an INSULT to the Hinata of the Juubi Arc (who finally grew to become truly brave and self-assured).
Damn Kishi, really.
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I mean the development was fine under after the Pain Arc, but Naruto ignored Hinata's confession and that bothered me. But the Last Movie showed how bad the development really was.
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Yeah, well, FUCK Kishi then, really.
It's ALL his fault after all, ya know.
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Personally, I'm more concerned with the fact that the ending was rushed as hell. Also, don't blame the manga for stupid fans - trust me, rabid shippers will never learn.
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That pissed the hell out of me too!! He should have taken one of the NaruHina fan fictions to atleast help him fill in some romance (keepin it PG-16 of course)
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I don't care about NaruHina. Neither I do about NaruSaku or SasuSaku, so I don't know what's the point of telling that to me.
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Oh no, i replied to the wrong person! My apologies 😅
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Um, the difference is FMA and Rave spent time building up those pairings. Naruto just seemed to pull them out it's ass, with the exception of ShikaTema.
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How did they do it. Screentime or mutual feelings? Because screentime can't be romantic development.
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FMA established them both as having mutual feelings for each other, and Rave spent the entire manga's run developing the romance, while still moving the story along. You can't just say screen time can't be romantic development, otherwise no couple could ever be developed on screen.
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Hinata's feelings have been crystal clear since her first arc (the freaking Exam, ya know).
And Naruto already shows unusual concern and respect towards Hinata in THAT VERY ARC too.
Basically, NaruHina had been a 99% thing ever since the "proud failure".
That alone was more than enough to provide enough CONNECTION between them.
Pain and further moments merely added more drama to the already obvious prediction.
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Yes, Hinata's feeling may have been clear since the Exams, but Naruto was still in love with Sakura, and still asking her out even up though Shippuden. He respected Hinata for simply copying his ideal (which he copied from Haku), and he also shows quite a bit of respect for Lee, so obviously NaruLee was a foregone conclusion. Thing is, Winry and Ellie were both major characters in their respective series, whereas Hinata was never anything more than a minor character.
There were also quite a few ship tease moments for NaruSaku as well. Look, the question is Why are EdxWinry and HaruxEllie not ragged on the same way NaruHina and SasuSaku are, and the answer is both pairing spent an entire manga building the relationships, rather than just one or two token scenes. Haru and Ellie were together the entire manga, baring a few times they were split up. Winry showed up in the manga extremely frequently, usually to fix whatever Automail Ed had broken and so her relationship with Ed was developed. NaruHina and SasuSaku just kinda... Happened with little to no explanation given.
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I'm unfamiliar with the couples in question here (I did watch a bit of FMA, but not enough for this).
On the other hand, are you familiar with Shaman King (anime, not manga, since I only watched it, and it differs a lot between those)?
There's Yoh - the main guy, maybe not as oblivious, but also not to sharp with ladies, kind of.
There's Anna - a bossy and physically abusive main-female-character FIANCE of Yoh's, who he actually ends up marrying, and who openly claims to be Yoh's future wife throughout the entire anime.
There's Tamao - a shy secondary-female-character with a childhood crush on Yoh, who she openly has no hopes of winning over from Anna, according to her own words.
Now, before I LINK you to a bigger text, two things:
*While not a perfect comparison, the pairing situations (during the series, not in the end) are still similar enough to draw conclusions.
*I like YohAnna and I never rooted for YohTamao - yet NaruHina is my ONLY ship ever, literally (I haven't shipped ANYONE else, ANYWHERE, EVER).
And now, the LINK:
koshej.deviantart.com/art/Why-…
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Yes, I watched it when it aired back on FoxKids, and I still don't get how it's in any way related to the question. Because Yoh and Anna were also heavily developed in both the Manga, and the anime. Again, the entire question revolves on why NaruHina get's hate, despite other examples not. NaruHina was very poorly developed. 90% of "moments" were one-sided, and just reminds that, yes, Hinata has a crush on the protagonist. She didn't have enough screen time to properly develop a believable relationship, in comparison to Yoh and Anna, who were together quite a bit on screen. That was literally the entire point of "The Last". To explain how Naruto and Hinata ended up together.
Also, in comparison to NaruHina, I think SasuSaku takes the biggest hits because Sasuke tried to murder her. Multiple times, and then up and abandoned her. NaruHina was bland, boring and completely uninteresting, while SasuSaku is just a domestic abuse case waiting to happen.
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