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Description People nowadays care so much about content, art design and graphics that Street Fighter V, DmC: Devil May CryΒ and any HD remake got criticized and nobody gives a crap about the gameplay anymore.

Gameplay is more important, graphics and content are an optional bonus. No matter how complete or incomplete a game looks like. Games like Sonic 06 and Sonic Boom are the REAL incomplete games, because the gameplay was poor and it was rushed, unlike Street Fighter V, who has a complete gameplay, no glitches, but people criticize it for the lack of content where I just wanna facepalm so harder. I know, it's the same thing with Killer Instinct, although after three seasons, it felt complete.

Again, Gameplay is the MOST IMPORTANT thing in videogames, whether it looks incomplete or not. I blame Mariotehplumber and other people who started this "Gameplay is not the most important in gaming" mindset.

Oh and before you get annoyed, I find the gameplay of Killer Instinct and King of Fighters XIV as badass as every Street Fighter game.
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ClarigatoRegnator [2021-05-30 23:58:33 +0000 UTC]

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JawlyRogers [2020-04-18 18:16:28 +0000 UTC]

That's why you gotta stick with the SNES and PS1. Oldies but goodies from the 90s-00s era. Or find inspiration from the games of those time periods and make your own. BOOMERS UNITE! XDDDDDDDDDD

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Rb1996 [2018-03-29 00:56:33 +0000 UTC]

Okay this argument is just stupid we aren't having 1990 anymore the medium evolved and while Gameplay may remains the most important part of a game have we so many good playing games in this day and age that unless you have something unique you won't survive and this was even in the Super Nintendo days already the case were many fighting games had similar good Gameplay as street fighter 2 but were dead on arrival because there had nothing to make them self look spezial compared to SF2 which is also why games like Mortal Combat survived with the unique optic and the blood and gore did it manage to survive the marked because its had more to it than just its Gameplay.

As for your example with Street fighter who cares that its plays well so did most of the games that came before that you could played before 5 which has massiv lack in content.

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AaronMon97 In reply to Rb1996 [2018-03-29 01:47:18 +0000 UTC]

Still, gameplay should not be ignored just because of content.

I mean, Yes it evolved, but still. Also, Killer Instinct had lack of content too and its hatred towards it is not as big as Street Fighter V because.

NoΒ offense, but don't be such a content whore.

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Rb1996 In reply to AaronMon97 [2018-03-29 08:04:43 +0000 UTC]

But the amount of games with Good Gameplay is so high this days that Gameplay alone isn't going to win anything anymore unless you manage to reinvent the wheel something Street Fighter 5 for example didn't do because its just more of the same but with less interestingΒ things around it so why should anyone play this games when you get the same but more in most previous street fighter games or many other high quality fighting games.

As for Killer Instinct that games is Old (unless you talk about a new game that I didn't know about in which case properly the hype to finally getting a new title after years is what caused the most excitement) as in Super Nintendo old and had similar to Mortal Combat an edge that made it more interesting than any other of the dime a dozen street fighter 2 clones and unlike Mortal Combat with Killer Instinkt just as brutal on Super Nintendo while Combat got cut hard in that version.

So you may call me a contend whore but with so many alternatives that also have good Gameplay but also lots of content on-top of it is the bare in my opinion raised a little to high this days for just Gameplay being a good enough.

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AaronMon97 In reply to Rb1996 [2018-03-29 18:55:41 +0000 UTC]

>Killer Instinct
>"That game is old"

Um, I am referring to the 2013 game, not the first SNES game. As much as I should have put "2013" or "for XBOX One", I guess you should learn that I am not referring to the first one. At least you put parenthesis.

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Rb1996 In reply to AaronMon97 [2018-03-30 21:15:25 +0000 UTC]

Okay I am not to familiar with Fighting games so I didn't know about the 2013 game but in this case properly just the hype to have gotten this new games after the series ended on the N64.

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AaronMon97 In reply to Rb1996 [2018-03-30 21:15:49 +0000 UTC]

That's okay.

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MrSkylar-1995 [2018-02-10 22:16:14 +0000 UTC]

Isn't content a crucial part of gameplay?

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AaronMon97 In reply to MrSkylar-1995 [2018-02-10 22:22:49 +0000 UTC]

How come?

People are ignoring Street Fighter V's gameplay (when it has no bugs, no glitches and no problems that ruin the game) over having minimum content. It seems like they want quantity over quality.

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MrSkylar-1995 In reply to AaronMon97 [2018-02-10 22:24:33 +0000 UTC]

That's a good point. Β People should enjoy a game for what it is and practice getting good at it since it's so competitive.

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AaronMon97 In reply to MrSkylar-1995 [2018-02-10 22:27:41 +0000 UTC]

Agreed.

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SonicTeam765 [2017-05-02 18:16:09 +0000 UTC]

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AaronMon97 In reply to SonicTeam765 [2017-05-02 21:55:10 +0000 UTC]

Well, true.

That doesn't mean gameplay should be ignored. Look at SFV, people complained about the game for the lack of content and ignored the gameplay, which it has no glitches or bugs and it's similar to SFIV. Also, there's Zero Wing, they complained mostly about their bad translation. And there are people who I doubt they still complain about the DmC reboot just for Dante's design while people praised the graphics and gameplay after its release.

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ZAMNPlayerD In reply to AaronMon97 [2017-07-19 03:21:27 +0000 UTC]

In the defense of RPGs (ESPECIALLY turn based ones), their gameplay is pretty simplistic, but it can fun if done well. Look at Earthbound, Good Final Fantasy Games, Paper Mario, Mario and Luigi, etc etc.

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AaronMon97 In reply to ZAMNPlayerD [2017-07-19 04:29:01 +0000 UTC]

Good point.

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ZAMNPlayerD In reply to AaronMon97 [2017-07-19 05:44:55 +0000 UTC]

Thank you, thank you.

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SonicTeam765 In reply to AaronMon97 [2017-05-03 13:30:09 +0000 UTC]

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AaronMon97 In reply to SonicTeam765 [2017-05-03 13:43:40 +0000 UTC]

At least, unlike the gameplay on SFV, people cared about the gameplay of DmC.

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SonicTeam765 In reply to AaronMon97 [2017-05-03 21:43:32 +0000 UTC]

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SpyderSoup In reply to SonicTeam765 [2017-11-27 10:52:17 +0000 UTC]

Let me ask you. If story is more important, then how do you think video games from the 80s and 90s became so popular? the Sonic Genesis games barely had any story, so how do you think they became so popular durring those days?

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SonicTeam765 In reply to SpyderSoup [2017-11-27 20:56:50 +0000 UTC]

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SpyderSoup In reply to SonicTeam765 [2017-11-27 21:17:55 +0000 UTC]

Actually, it's true that some games do have more story like RPGs, but other games like platforming ones rely more on the levels and gameplay like the Super Mario games and the other platforming games. To quote Animat "When writing a game, the story is more of a complementary side order so it can leave room to work on the control and the creativity of the gameplay and to emuse the players into the world of the game. Having a story is not necessary, but it is a nice touch. So, it's much more forgiving if the plot isn't well written, but the game is fun to play."

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SonicTeam765 In reply to SpyderSoup [2017-12-02 18:56:25 +0000 UTC]

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SpyderSoup In reply to SonicTeam765 [2017-12-03 04:52:10 +0000 UTC]

Is the story more important in racing games or party games

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SonicTeam765 In reply to SpyderSoup [2017-12-05 14:33:09 +0000 UTC]

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SpyderSoup In reply to SonicTeam765 [2017-12-05 23:33:42 +0000 UTC]

Well, that proves that gameplay is more important in most video games. Games are not like TV shows or films. If you want to see something that has more story, than go watch films, not play a game. If I want to play a game just for the story, then I would play games like Ori and the Blind Forest or My Sims Agents or even Portal 2 and not games like Sonic where the gameplay is more important. It actually depends on the game in terms of story. Some games rely more on gameplay. But some rely more on story. If you care more about the story and don't like Sonic anymore, then why not feel free to leave the Sonic fan base, let go of this negativity, move on and play some other games that are out there and stop complaining about how bad Sonic is right now and leave the other fans alone.

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AaronMon97 In reply to SonicTeam765 [2017-07-17 19:12:35 +0000 UTC]

Also, speaking of content, when Killer Instinct 2013 arrived, people complained about the lack of content, but unlike SFV, the hate against the 2013 KI game has died down and I see kinda like a vocal minority for the game than SFV. A true one that describes little to no haters, not a pseudo one that describes a zillion of haters, when in reality it's a vocal majority.

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dannymax440 [2016-12-28 16:38:29 +0000 UTC]

That explains why Mario has fantastic games despite his cardboard personality and sticking to the same formula.

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SpyderSoup In reply to dannymax440 [2017-11-27 10:53:36 +0000 UTC]

Not to mention that almost every single Mario game has the same story line over and over again and it gets really repetitive.

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dannymax440 [2016-12-28 16:24:43 +0000 UTC]

Guess that explains why Mario has awesome games despite his cardboard personality.

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PanzerPSOprorius [2016-11-18 04:18:07 +0000 UTC]

so i just looked at Channeleven's messages below, and had this in mind.

Silent Hill is one of the most heavily regarded. survival horror games. but at best, Β the gameplay is shallow and boring. it's functional if anything. but i doubt that's what propelled it the connoisseur-following it held in the industry for years. Β 

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ZAMNPlayerD [2016-11-16 01:25:12 +0000 UTC]

When it comes to judging a game, I go by this scale of importance:

1. Gameplay (Includes Control)
2. Difficulty
3. Overall lack of glitches
4. Longevity/Replayabilty
5. Sound
6. Story
7. Graphics.

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SonicTeam765 In reply to ZAMNPlayerD [2017-07-19 01:17:58 +0000 UTC]

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ZAMNPlayerD In reply to SonicTeam765 [2017-07-19 02:26:23 +0000 UTC]

That's kinda douchey don'tcha think? I mean, Earthbound has a fantastic story, but it's gameplay is simple and addictive. Ditto Undertale.

Gameplay, no matter what constitutes in any game has to be good and fun. Whether it's stomping mushrooms, stacking blocks, or punching trees.

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SonicTeam765 In reply to ZAMNPlayerD [2017-07-19 03:16:48 +0000 UTC]

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ZAMNPlayerD In reply to SonicTeam765 [2017-07-19 03:33:58 +0000 UTC]

You brought this on yourself.

Somebody once told me the world is gonna roll me
I ain't the sharpest tool in the shed
She was looking kind of dumb with her finger and her thumb
In the shape of an "L" on her forehead

Well the years start coming and they don't stop coming
Fed to the rules and I hit the ground running
Didn't make sense not to live for fun
Your brain gets smart but your head gets dumb
So much to do so much to see
So what's wrong with taking the back streets
You'll never know if you don't go
You'll never shine if you don't glow

[Chorus]
Hey now you're an All Star get your game on, go play
Hey now you're a Rock Star get the show on get paid
And all that glitters is gold
Only shooting stars break the mold

It's a cool place and they say it gets colder
You're bundled up now but wait 'til you get older
But the meteor men beg to differ
Judging by the hole in the satellite picture
The ice we skate is getting pretty thin
The water's getting warm so you might as well swim
My world's on fire how about yours
That's the way I like it and I never get bored

[Chorus: x2]

Somebody once asked could I spare some change for gas
I need to get myself away from this place
I said yep what a concept
I could use a little fuel myself
And we could all use a little change

Well, the years start coming and they don't stop coming
Fed to the rules and I hit the ground running
Didn't make sense not to live for fun
Your brain gets smart but your head gets dumb
So much to do, so much to see
So what's wrong with taking the back streets
You'll never know if you don't go
You'll never shine if you don't glow

[Chorus]

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AaronMon97 In reply to ZAMNPlayerD [2016-11-16 01:25:49 +0000 UTC]

True.

Gameplay goes first, and the rest go after.

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ZAMNPlayerD In reply to AaronMon97 [2016-11-16 01:43:23 +0000 UTC]

Thank you.

Like, Zombies Ate My Neighbors is one of my favorite games, and it has no real story, and graphics that look like 8-bit sprites. But the gameplay is fun, it's challenging, and highly replayable.

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Channeleven [2016-11-15 18:19:05 +0000 UTC]

You might as well ply those shovelware games for the PS2 and Wii.

In all seriousness, gameplay really isn't the only factor of importance. A good story, an appealing art style and graphics help to keep the interest of the player (follow the story and appealing visuals). You can't constantly rely on a singular factor to determine the quality of the game.

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AaronMon97 In reply to Channeleven [2016-11-15 20:40:37 +0000 UTC]

"You can't constantly rely on a singular factor to determine the quality of the game."

Same thing with graphics if you exclude the story and gameplay. I don't want to be like Mariotehplumber just to dislike DmC and Sonic Boom (even though Sonic Boom was a mess and I didn't play it)

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Channeleven In reply to AaronMon97 [2016-11-15 20:47:06 +0000 UTC]

I mentioned more than just graphics, you know (oh gee, another one of those people who take MTP seriously)

If I thought like you, I'd just praise anything so long as the gameplay works (i.e. a stark amount of those shovelware games)

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AaronMon97 In reply to Channeleven [2016-11-15 20:49:35 +0000 UTC]

Seriously, why wouldn't I take MTP seriously, even if he is a troll, do you want me to hate DmC because Dante looks different from the original, even though the graphics and gameplay are great?

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Channeleven In reply to AaronMon97 [2016-11-15 20:57:46 +0000 UTC]

No, of course I don't want you to hate Dante over how he looks. Don't go all fubar on me.

(also, why bring up graphics when you're trying to push that gameplay is all that matters?)

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AaronMon97 In reply to Channeleven [2016-11-15 20:59:06 +0000 UTC]

Because people forget about the gameplay since they criticize Street Fighter V for lacking content when there is no bugs nor glitches in the gameplay.

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DrEarthwormRobotnik In reply to AaronMon97 [2016-11-16 01:38:51 +0000 UTC]

Street Fighter V was released unfinished. Even then, the gameplay was average at best to me

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AaronMon97 In reply to DrEarthwormRobotnik [2017-07-17 19:09:43 +0000 UTC]

What's so bad about the gameplay?

Does it have any bugs? Does it have any glitches that ruin the game?

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DrEarthwormRobotnik In reply to AaronMon97 [2017-07-18 04:33:34 +0000 UTC]

There weren't any bugs, but the gameplay felt very lacking compared to the competition at the time:Β www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQevVm…

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Channeleven In reply to AaronMon97 [2016-11-15 21:07:42 +0000 UTC]

Well this day and age, you could only go so far relying on gameplay.

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gameman5804 In reply to Channeleven [2016-11-15 21:36:47 +0000 UTC]

And you can only go so far relying on content. Β 

gameplay is the one main element that separates videogames from movies and books (even if the game itself is more oriented on Story, Graphics, or even Music) since your interacting with the environment. Β That's why you have the controller.Β 

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