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This is basically how I look at types and how they can be grouped.Its the latest attempt at trying to make sense of it.
This time its actually so good that I thought I would put it on here.
It goes like this
Basically everything is either
1--technique (a strategy, way of battling, an approach)
- Fighting (superior body, brute force, muscles, martial arts..)
- Psychic (superior mind, psychokinetic powers, telepathy..)
- Poison (weakening your enemy to gain advantage)
- Dark (sneaky cheap unfair tricks, cheating..)
- Flying (some way to stay in the air, some wind..)
2--species (relates to the creature itself, what kinds of organism it is, what its made of)
- Bug (insects, arachnids, worms..)
- Dragon (well, dragons..)
- Rock (literally mineral based organisms)
- Ghost (gaseous, seemingly impossible)
- Steel (ore based, metals, iron..)
3--element (things and processes found in the world around us, things to shoot in the opponents face..)
And elements are then branched into
I-natural (physical things stuff is made of)
- Grass (plants..)
- Water (H2O, useful for all kinds of stuff..)
- Ground (soil, mud, sand..)
II-energy (processes and reactions)
- Fire (reactions that release energy, hot stuff..)
- Electric (flow of electrons, charged and glowing stuff..)
- Ice (f-f-freezzzing cold stuff..)
UPDATE: Figured it out a bit better.
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Comments: 34
AdeptCharon In reply to johntyronne [2014-01-09 13:33:04 +0000 UTC]
Well obviously as a Species in this version.
But my current one is this
saiph-charon.deviantart.com/arβ¦
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zigaudrey [2013-07-04 16:32:13 +0000 UTC]
Interresting one!Maybe that's help to find some species on my fakemon!
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Stella-Shuriken [2012-02-24 13:39:20 +0000 UTC]
You should post this to pokeprofessors
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AdeptCharon In reply to Stella-Shuriken [2012-02-24 19:29:13 +0000 UTC]
Is that just a compliment or do you mean an actual site or something? o.o
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Kyle-Dove [2012-02-07 10:53:09 +0000 UTC]
Sounds cool! Not sure I would agree with steel being natural though. Steel is like the most unnatural thing ever, it doesn't even happen naturally in nature...humans created it. I think that's why a lot of steel pokemon are man-made, though I can't remember how many right now.
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AdeptCharon In reply to Kyle-Dove [2012-02-07 12:13:37 +0000 UTC]
I didn't specifically mean that it couldn't be material that is usually manmade. Nature as in the world around us. No idea what other word would be more fitting, but that group are elements which are actual solid material.
As lots of the types though, the name is not necessarily the perfect choice, but I guess they went for more common and easy understandable words instead of logical names. It would probably be weird if it was Cold instead of Ice(since thats what its about, not necessarily frozen Water), Abnormal instead of Ghost (as they are not actual ghosts of something that died, they're just gaseous floating creatures)... but I guess Steel as type includes most kinds of alloys, like Bronze and Brass or even just plain ores like Iron.
Actually you raise a much more interesting question here. Where the heck does the steel on Steel pokemon come from?
Maybe the name is just misleading and pokemon aren't made of proper steel, but just ores and metals..
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RayquazaMaster [2012-02-07 00:56:06 +0000 UTC]
Makes sense, but I don't really see how Rock would be Species, or why Grass is an Element.
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AdeptCharon In reply to RayquazaMaster [2012-02-07 01:15:35 +0000 UTC]
The real Rock pokemon tend to be literally mineral based.
I went like this:
Basically everything is either
-technique (a strategy, way of battling, an approach)
-species (relates to the creature itself, what kinds of organism it is)
-element (things and processes found in the world around us)
And elements are then branched into
-natural (physical things stuff is made of)
-energy (processes and reactions)
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Sunkist-Rise In reply to RayquazaMaster [2012-02-07 01:01:14 +0000 UTC]
Hmm
Think of grass as the earth type of element in pokemon? Because Earth, Fire and Water are common elements in RPGs. Rock pokemon are generally moving rocks, so it makes sense to show it as a species. (Geodude, Boldore, Torkoal, Onix)
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RayquazaMaster In reply to Sunkist-Rise [2012-02-07 01:07:53 +0000 UTC]
Torkoal's not Rock type, it's pure Fire. And there are probably more Rock types that aren't moving rocks than Rock types that are.
As for Grass being earth, there's already Ground type for earth.
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AdeptCharon In reply to RayquazaMaster [2012-02-07 01:48:16 +0000 UTC]
Theres essentially 3 kinds of Rock pokemon
-true Rock pkmn (Rock, Rock/something)
Their bodies are literally made of rock.
-secondary Rock pkmn (something/Rock)
They have rocky armor or shell attached to them.
-fossils
These are kind of vague. Probably as lame and simple as "they came from a fossil, so they're Rock..", or maybe the fossils were preserved well enough because they were more mineral based organisms, which would put them into the first group.
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RayquazaMaster In reply to AdeptCharon [2012-02-07 02:07:03 +0000 UTC]
What about the Larvitar line? Rock is their primary type. And then there's Terrakion.
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AdeptCharon In reply to RayquazaMaster [2012-02-07 11:24:17 +0000 UTC]
If I'm trying to make sense of it all, I look at the prominent examples and similarities, not at the exceptions and ones that have no way to tell.
You see, lots of times types are not obvious simply from the look of a pokemon. Larvitar, personally always had a minerally feel to it with the touch of grey in the green. If they made it Rock type, its probably safe to assume it's supposed to be hard and sturdy, you just cannot grab and pick it up to see for yourself.
Usually the only indication of the type is the color. If Suicune was not blue, I doubt anyone would guess the type without a problem. But even that's not always true.
And then there is groups of pokemon, like legendary trios. Where they might have a similar basis but are differently typed. In those cases, if their types don't have an obvious color to represent it, the type can be especially hard to guess, since they are the "same" animal, just with different details.
In short, types aren't necessarily obvious, usually all you have is the color to guess and there is always exceptions.
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swanpfireX In reply to AdeptCharon [2012-02-12 15:56:42 +0000 UTC]
like lucario being part steel type, never guessed why...
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AdeptCharon In reply to swanpfireX [2012-02-12 16:42:25 +0000 UTC]
Visually you cannot tell. Well the three spikes could be a hint.
My immediate guess is that its simply because it makes it even more hardcore XD
The second types are way less obvious than the first ones. If its first type was Steel then we should all be going WTFFFF. Now its just more badass than it would have already been as a pure Fighting
Oh and apparently its name is the reverse of the japanese spelling for orihalcum.
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swanpfireX In reply to AdeptCharon [2012-02-12 17:43:10 +0000 UTC]
i knew the spikes thing, speaking of steel types, i hate klink's evolutionary line names, it would be cooler if it was: geer, gigeer and gigageer, or at least klink, klang, klunk
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AdeptCharon In reply to swanpfireX [2012-02-12 20:36:17 +0000 UTC]
I like it that the third is a combination of the first two, because everyone understands right away its the final evolution
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swanpfireX In reply to AdeptCharon [2012-02-12 20:58:03 +0000 UTC]
lol, also i would preffer klinklang's design if it gained a bigger gear behind klang's bigger gear, and the second klink face inside klang's big gear just turned into a blue circle
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RayquazaMaster In reply to AdeptCharon [2012-02-07 23:11:19 +0000 UTC]
But then there are colors that are more or less shared by multiple types.
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AdeptCharon In reply to RayquazaMaster [2012-02-07 23:19:35 +0000 UTC]
Yep, but since its not a constant rule anyway, it just makes things less obvious, and in my opinion more interesting XDDD
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Sunkist-Rise In reply to RayquazaMaster [2012-02-07 01:19:26 +0000 UTC]
Whoops, sorry about that! Kinda relying on memory for this -_-;
True, I'm just stating another way of looking at it. I'm not trying to make you change your opinion.
And as for rock types I really can't think of too many XD
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RayquazaMaster In reply to Sunkist-Rise [2012-02-07 02:08:14 +0000 UTC]
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There are far more that are based on something other than an animate rock than there are Pokemon that are.
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Sunkist-Rise In reply to RayquazaMaster [2012-02-07 02:31:33 +0000 UTC]
I can see where you are coming from.
But I have better things to be doing than arguing about the forms of rock pokemon.
And I'm sure you have better things to be doing than trying to prove a fifteen year old girl wrong about her opinion on rock pokemon. c:
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RayquazaMaster In reply to Sunkist-Rise [2012-02-07 23:12:52 +0000 UTC]
Haha, I wasn't even aware we were arguing. :'D
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Sunkist-Rise In reply to RayquazaMaster [2012-02-08 01:18:45 +0000 UTC]
XD I just got that impression I guess. I mean it probably didn't help that I had a lengthy English assignment to finish
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RayquazaMaster In reply to Sunkist-Rise [2012-02-08 02:12:29 +0000 UTC]
Lol, I thought I had just corrected you. :'D
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AdeptCharon In reply to Phillipinas [2012-02-07 01:07:50 +0000 UTC]
Poison is a strategy. You weaken your enemy to get an advantage. Just like you can have muscles (Fighting), superior mind (Psy) or resort to sneaky tricks (Dark).
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Sunkist-Rise In reply to Phillipinas [2012-02-07 00:58:35 +0000 UTC]
Not exactly, since poison can be envisioned as either a poisoning like poison ivy (naturally) or the artificial kind. And if you think about it in terms of how poison type moves are used in pokemon and what type of pokemon use them, it is more of a defensive technique (Arbok, Quilfish, Tentacool) or as a trait of the pokemon. (Gastly, Garbador, Grimer)
At least that's how I think of it.
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