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I republish a version 2.0 failing to put fact censorship first by "the good thinking universally left" most "charlie" this will recognize even if majority in my country (which is the 4th most atheist in the world small info in passing) if it should happen again, I would ask all people not to respond by the violence, it is already what they seek above all, be by pure trolling or because they do not know anything and as they hate what will be able to fear, they would rather want to do the ostrich by bellowing like donkeys because they want nothing understand, on the contrary I would like him to pray for these people in the Name of Jesus Christ that He delivers them and they are saved.Related content
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DrSGrowth In reply to ??? [2019-06-14 23:34:53 +0000 UTC]
For the simple reason that your evidence is worthless.
False testimonies, Christian scientists self-proclaim, polls or percentages fake and done fast.
You keep only what suits you and reject the rest.
You’re doing the same thing to justify the church’s homophobia?
For me and others, the church has deserved this hatred.
She took advantage of the power she had and today she did so pointed out to be.
You can spit all you want on the right to abortion, it’s a vested right and billions of men and women will fight to keep what they earn against your church.
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justinjamal In reply to DrSGrowth [2019-06-17 17:37:06 +0000 UTC]
Ah, so any evidence that goes against your worldview is worthless? That's a ignorant thing to say despite the fact of the links given otherwise. the branch of knowledge that deals with moral principles.[4]
Regarding atheism and ethics , under an atheist worldview , there is no logical basis for objective morality or ultimate meaning and purpose.[5]
Atheism and moral relativismSee also: Atheism and moral relativism and Atheism and morality quotes
Dr. Phil Fernandes says concerning atheism and moral relativism :
“Nietzsche preached that a group of "supermen" must arise with the courage to create their own values through their "will to power." Nietzsche rejected the "soft" values of Christianity (brotherly love, turning the other cheek, charity, compassion, etc.); he felt they hindered man's creativity and potential....Many other atheists agree with Nietzsche concerning moral relativism. British philosopher Bertrand Russell (1872-1970) once wrote, "Outside human desires there is no moral standard." A. J. Ayer believed that moral commands did not result from any objective standard above man. Instead, Ayer stated that moral commands merely express one's subjective feelings. When one says that murder is wrong, one is merely saying that he or she feels that murder is wrong. Jean-Paul Sartre , a French existentialist , believed that there is no objective meaning to life. Therefore, according to Sartre, man must create his own values.
There are many different ways that moral relativists attempt to determine what action should be taken. Hedonism is probably the most extreme. It declares that whatever brings the most pleasure is right. In other words, if it feels good, do it. If this position is true, then there is no basis from which to judge the actions of Adolf Hitler as being evil.
How can you justify what you say if you cannot account for morality in your own stance?
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DrSGrowth In reply to BrentdyeDragon [2019-06-12 16:13:11 +0000 UTC]
Pushing a man to suicide is a crime, but someone who has willingly chosen to die to no longer suffer from his illness deserves to leave in peace.
Gentlemen have the right to live as the right to die as he wishes.
You can suck up the merits of life to change their minds, but you promise them hell and the wrath of your "so-called" god.
And you claim that your god is only love and that you respect the choice of others.
You are incapable of accepting his things, all believers are alike.
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BrentdyeDragon In reply to DrSGrowth [2019-06-12 19:39:35 +0000 UTC]
Well I guess I was respect the choice of others.
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DrSGrowth In reply to BrentdyeDragon [2019-06-12 19:47:46 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, while telling them they’re going to hell for it or that god said no.
I don’t call that respecting other people’s choices personally.
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BrentdyeDragon In reply to DrSGrowth [2019-06-12 19:59:03 +0000 UTC]
I think hell is the bad place.
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DrSGrowth In reply to BrentdyeDragon [2019-06-12 20:06:17 +0000 UTC]
Except his people do NOT believe in hell nor in God! They are free, unlike you. But you can’t resist the bows to convince them that they do evil! You do not respect the wishes of any one departs what for you a non-believer is compelled to bend to the law of the so-called god.
There is no respect for others in your Brahmic religion!
You convert by force, you impose your backward vision, you impose the belief of god and hell!
You are incapable of doing otherwise!
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BrentdyeDragon In reply to DrSGrowth [2019-06-12 20:14:09 +0000 UTC]
Look there man I'm a Christian but each people had different point of view including you.
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DrSGrowth In reply to BrentdyeDragon [2019-06-12 20:20:50 +0000 UTC]
Only I do not impose it on others. When no one wants to live anymore I give him my support, I do not talk to him about hell.
The difference between you and me is I don’t judge others by what they do. You not only judge them but you take them high with your beliefs, persuade that there is a force that will judge them like you!
And it’s not just a point of view.
For what his point of view, on all that we are influenced by religion like you, we keep him for himself!
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justinjamal In reply to BrentdyeDragon [2019-06-17 17:21:35 +0000 UTC]
Drgrowthsworth over here is doing the very thing that he accuses the Christian's of doing. Reread his comment about judging then look at his actions
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BrentdyeDragon In reply to justinjamal [2019-06-17 17:39:25 +0000 UTC]
Yes and your name is justinjamal.
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justinjamal In reply to BrentdyeDragon [2019-06-17 17:49:33 +0000 UTC]
Yes. I have a few things that can help you } While I'm [Certain] any attempts at trying to reason with idiots is always a 100% waste of time that would be better served catching up on GOT episodes; Valar Morghulis, Valar Dohaeris. And, so I shall. Feel free to copy and paste this for a reply as you see fit. 1. Without an objective source of reality, his claims on reality are limited and naturalistic relying solely upon sensory stimulation. Can he prove this existence is reality and not a dream, a computer program, or that he isn't a brain floating in a jar? Then any claims he makes about reality are speculative and dismissable. So, with all his talking he said nothing. 2. He failed to elucidate on how your beliefs are "silly" This is a subjective pejorative based on an objective bias for which he cited no proof and can, therefore, be ignored as meaningless.
As both life from non-life and something from nothing are scientific impossibilities that ignore biology and causality, it's his beliefs that are silly. Once again, in all his talking, he has said nothing. 3. Nowhere in The Bible is God ever once described as being a wizard in the clouds so this is just blatant lying on his part, making the statement both false and pointless. His comments on your reality and his reality prove he believes only what he wants to believe and disregard the rest, i.e. he lives in his own little world and can't be taken seriously, . So, as always, he has said nothing. 4. I find his rant about christianity rather strange.
This would explain his attitude and hatred toward Christian communities. Again, use their own terminology against them. 5. His silly little haranguing is nothing more than a series of logical fallacies, cognitive bias, and a lesson in how [not] to win a debate while rendering his thoughts, opinions, and self utterly moot and impotent. In the end, he talks a lot but says nothing. 6. Last; here is a list, in no particular order, of the many logical fallacies and cognitive bias attributed to his sad little diatribe, should you wish to point them out: Appeal to Ridicule, Ad Hominem, Argument by Emotive Language, Poisoning the Well, Red Herring, Strawman Fallacy, Appeal to the Stone (argumentum ad lapidem) Argument by Dismissal, Disregarding Known Science, Dogmatism, Mind Projection Fallacy, Needling, Reductionism, Sealioning, Self-Deception, Argument from Incredulity. Hope this helps.
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BrentdyeDragon In reply to justinjamal [2019-06-18 00:31:53 +0000 UTC]
Wow I never thought about that one guy and very long comment.
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BrentdyeDragon In reply to justinjamal [2019-06-18 06:23:30 +0000 UTC]
So justinjamal what is that other user name.
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BrentdyeDragon In reply to justinjamal [2019-06-21 15:23:08 +0000 UTC]
You remember about this guy.
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BrentdyeDragon In reply to justinjamal [2019-06-21 15:36:26 +0000 UTC]
I already met him several days ago.
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menslady125 [2019-06-09 01:37:46 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, I think I can safely say that hurting people to suicide is definitely murder.
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DrSGrowth In reply to menslady125 [2019-06-09 13:31:11 +0000 UTC]
What about those who had to leave willingly ?
Should we punish them too? -_-
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menslady125 In reply to DrSGrowth [2019-06-09 17:08:33 +0000 UTC]
I have no idea what you're talking about, but I have a feeling you're trying to pick a fight with me.
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DrSGrowth In reply to menslady125 [2019-06-09 18:55:08 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, what a crime it is to want to die the way you want.
Or you have to force him to live against their will, like imposing your beliefs on you.
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menslady125 In reply to DrSGrowth [2019-06-09 19:09:20 +0000 UTC]
Hold on a minute. I said nothing of the sort. I said that those who treat people like garbage to the point where they feel suicidal are murderers, not the people who commit suicide.
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DrSGrowth In reply to menslady125 [2019-06-09 19:33:41 +0000 UTC]
On this point, we agree.
Would you be willing to accept that people have the right to die or to live as they want?
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menslady125 In reply to DrSGrowth [2019-06-09 19:42:04 +0000 UTC]
I have no control over people's decisions. All I can do is tell them the truth. And the truth is simply this: first, suicide never helps. Second, everything is permissible for us to do. But God knows what's best for us and what is dangerous to our souls. We are better off if we live for Him.
Whether or not anyone chooses to believe me or God is totally up to them.
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DrSGrowth In reply to menslady125 [2019-06-09 19:54:04 +0000 UTC]
If they’re free to do what they want and believe in what they want, why always remind them that he’s going to hell?
It is like threatening and forcing them to believe in a religion.
If you really didn’t care, you wouldn’t even talk about God or his "so-called" will.
You would simply try to help him or to respect his choice, my always tell you about your god as an argument!
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menslady125 In reply to DrSGrowth [2019-06-09 20:07:52 +0000 UTC]
We're not threatening anyone. We're warning them that they're in danger...and trying to tell them that there is hope. They don't have to go to Hell.
You see, God doesn't send people to Hell. People send themselves there. And...they do it on their own free will.
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DrSGrowth In reply to menslady125 [2019-06-09 20:27:39 +0000 UTC]
So you promised them hell!
You don’t tell the truth but your truth.
You don’t want to help them.
And once again you talk about your god over and over again! God is an asshole to the point of sending to hell a paraplegic who has to live with the help of a machine leave that he does not want to live like this, he only wants to rest in peace.
And you can’t respect that will, not only threaten him that he’ll go to hell for it, but also tell you that God doesn’t forgive this when he’s supposed to be just love.
Forcing others to religion, talking about hell and al anger of your "god" is all you know how to do!
You don’t help, you convert and force!
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justinjamal In reply to DrSGrowth [2019-06-17 17:18:05 +0000 UTC]
For a anti theist, you sure do love to talk about the one thing You claim doesn't exist. I'll start by asking you a question
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menslady125 In reply to DrSGrowth [2019-06-09 20:33:44 +0000 UTC]
Okay! It is obvious to me that you WERE trying to pick a fight with me all along! I have better things to do with my time than listen to your lies and filthy talk and blasphemy. You are free to tell God ALL of this on Judgement Day which WILL come...and there will be NOTHING I nor AlexPixels can do for you. Good luck partying in Hell...you're going to be the barbecue!
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DragonGirlLezlie In reply to ??? [2019-06-08 22:08:01 +0000 UTC]
I think this is another reason why we should try to help people who are suicidal. No one deserves to feel like that.
Well said!
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DrSGrowth In reply to DragonGirlLezlie [2019-06-09 13:31:21 +0000 UTC]
The people who want to leave the world as they see fit, should they be punished too?
What if we have the right to live without the right to die as we please?
Or should we ask an imaginary friend about his old bronze-age newspaper?
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DragonGirlLezlie In reply to DrSGrowth [2019-06-13 17:35:24 +0000 UTC]
God doesn’t punish people who commit suicide.
I’m not saying that. All I’m saying is that maybe we should try to help people who are feeling suicidal. Because I know that there’s always going to be at least someone, especially God, who loves and cares about them. Even the Bible says that those who are sick or unwell needs help.
Besides, God says there will be a resurrection of the righteous and the unrighteous (Acts 24:15)
He won’t send people to Hell. He promises a place for those who are righteous and willing to repent.
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DrSGrowth In reply to DragonGirlLezlie [2019-06-13 17:51:05 +0000 UTC]
I agree that an evil man in his life must be helping.
Yet more often I hear believers threaten his last by telling them that they will go to hell and that there will be no forgiveness for them.
They say the same thing about homosexuals and women who want to have an abortion.
These people, like alexpixel, have they misread the bible?
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DragonGirlLezlie In reply to DrSGrowth [2019-06-13 18:28:07 +0000 UTC]
Well people have their own interpretations of the Bible. And God knows this. And God does indeed have standards for how we should live, like alexpixel demonstrates, but He has these standards because He wants us live the best way of life. He’s our Heavenly Father after all. (1 John 5:3)
And to be ready for Judgement Day, as it will come at a time when we least expect it. (Matthew 24:44)
We’re all imperfect humans after all, and are bound to make mistakes. That’s why God also allows us to be forgiven if we are truly sorry and willing to change.
Jesus died for us sinners after all. (John 3:16-17)
He would have never gone through all that pain if He didn’t love us.
But just as Jesus told his disciples, a believers job is to love God and love others. (Matthew 22:36-39)
Along with that, he told his disciples to go out and spread the good news; to encourage people to turn to God.
We can’t change people because they have to change themselves by their own free will, but the least we can do is help them get there.
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DrSGrowth In reply to DragonGirlLezlie [2019-06-13 19:05:06 +0000 UTC]
To me, it’s all a web of lies.
A facade to subjugate it to a non-existent entity.
You say that everyone is free to have their opinion, yet you specify that it is preferable that they change for their pardon.
It is a matter of encouraging them to change their minds and therefore not respecting their will.
And if everyone can have their interpretation of the Bible, the extremists, the fanatics and the terrorists are in the real? It’s their interpretation after all.
If your Christ is to sacrifice so that we do not respect those who love a person of the same sex, those who are not ready to become a mother, those who want to leave with peace of mind and those who do not have the same belief.
Then you can keep your "prophet" and your "god".
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IronDragon06 In reply to ??? [2019-06-08 17:22:09 +0000 UTC]
Abortition should be punished with jail. It is murder!
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Sarsath In reply to IronDragon06 [2019-06-08 21:43:47 +0000 UTC]
Even 12 year old rape victims should be put in jail?
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DragonGirlLezlie In reply to Sarsath [2019-06-08 22:11:20 +0000 UTC]
Well no.
Honestly I think when it comes to abortion it really depends on the circumstances. I think God will understand though. He’s a God of mercy and compassion. And well, He’ll remember those who have died in their mother’s womb.
A child’s life is precious to God, but I trust that He’ll understand since He knows the secrets of the heart. You know what I mean?
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DrSGrowth In reply to DragonGirlLezlie [2019-06-09 13:28:35 +0000 UTC]
One is against or one is for, it has no concession and the opinion of an imaginary deity has no place to be !
A woman does what she wants with her body because it is her right, her human right not to keep in her something that is not yet human !
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PetitSeigneur In reply to IronDragon06 [2019-06-08 19:15:50 +0000 UTC]
And the fanatical believer like you should be locked up in an asylum! retarded believer!
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desertstorm272 In reply to PetitSeigneur [2019-06-12 14:55:40 +0000 UTC]
Then say hello to Satan when you are in Hell.
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PetitSeigneur In reply to desertstorm272 [2019-06-12 16:04:07 +0000 UTC]
You mean one more of your imaginary friends that you dirty belief to invent to scare the ignorant of the Middle Ages.
My poor, backward believer, comes out once in a while.
The evil forces here are you fanatics!
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justinjamal In reply to PetitSeigneur [2019-07-18 15:01:24 +0000 UTC]
So why are you on this chat if you believe them to be imaginary friends eh? You know he exists that's why you arent in other groups seeking out to destroy unicorns
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