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Published: 2015-01-17 19:48:25 +0000 UTC; Views: 14016; Favourites: 295; Downloads: 0
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Opinion wanted! Do you think that having the SFM ponies with eye refraction like this is better, or not really needed? It does remove some of the "cartoonish look" the eyes give them now, but I find it kinda neat.Decided this morning to play around with the eyes of the pony models. Took a couple hours to figure things out, but have at least some kind of working eye refraction on the ponies. The problem is it requires modifying the textures and recompiling the model.
There is still a lot of things I want to figure out before I go and recompile any more (like, there "may" be a way to animate the pupil).Rainbow is using eye refraction, while Twilight is there to show the way they are now. Had to use Flash as GIFs killed the quality.
As I was only doing testing, Rainbow's left eye was the only one modified, therefore had to close the right.
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It think it looks better with out it. But it could be used in certain scenes like if Pinkie was super upclose to ranbow and you had a close up to rainbows eye
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I personally like the refraction in the eyes! I say keep it!
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The new eyes are smaller than the old ones?
Otherwise they seem interesting.
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I did have to modify the scaling a bit and just threw in a value that worked.
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Hm, kinda hard to say. It depends how well you can see the shine on the eye I guess. With those huge eyes there needs to be an eye highlight visible or they would instantly look creepy.
The close-up looks fine but I'm not sure about the one with both RD and Twi.
I think I'd personally say I prefer the usual texture-only cartoon eyes. If you would make the ponies look more realistic overall like with a bump map/normal map for hair and fur structure etc the shiny eyes would probably be better, but for the simple pony models the usual ones fit better in my opinion.
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i think it looks awesome, and it opens up more movie options like watching a meteor shower or light show only showing it only in their eyes.
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It is a game engine, so the "refraction" is mask that you preset. You could technically change the mask to match the room, but it would still be stationary.
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gotta say i like the way rainbows eye looks, Though I don't think it's entirely necessary it makes her look a lot cooler (Maybe even %20 cooler?.. Eh?.. EH?.. no?.. sorry...)
Keep up the good work!
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I see this having potential, but at the moment it looks a little out of place. maybe you could make another video with more comparisons varying between RD and Twi. Maybe you could make the eye reflection a slider? i could see that helping maybe?
I presume when you say "animate" the pupil you mean to make it bigger and smaller. becuase that'd be really cool.
you also seemed to have added a convex pupil. nice detail, i love it.
It would certainly be cool for higher quality animation under the right lighting.
maybe you could upload a picture you have already done for comarison.
(i think Breather and Scootlegger would be good examples.)
All in all if this is pulled off It will really add to the SFMLP. I'm behind you in this one.
P.S even as i type this it's starting to grow on me.
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I want to get it about how I like it and then load the model in a video for comparison. Pictures are one thing, but as lighting effects the eyes at all angles, I want to see something in motion. This was only about 2 hours of playing, so has lots of room for improvement.
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yeah i suppose so. Im wondering, the texture in RD's eye on the close up, is that a reflection of the surroundings or just a fixed texture?
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It is a fixed envmap. You can change that to whatever you want. I used the same one that the TF2 models use, as it is a good base.
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That makes it look a lot better!
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I like it! Any plan on releasing?
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Being that the models have to be recompiled to fix a sizing issue, it would be hard to "release". Most I can do is provide the resources and instruct how to do it.
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That sounds like a better idea, heh. Keep up the great work, though!
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It does indeed give it a nice touch, tho as you say it removes the "cartoonish look" of it. I kinda like how it going so far.
But i would like to see this effects with Yuki eye texture.
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It's 3D.... Adding more cartooness into a 3D environment is going to make it weird due to mixing of styles. Even though the ponies are already pretty cartoony. But having the flat eyes is odd. makes it lifelessish/out of place. to me
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Remember that are likes, some people like it other no, as the last time you say that things goes crazy around.
~Sorry, i wrote this from my phone and seems like i didnt check before sending the message.
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Can you put that into a sentence that is understandable?
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"everyone has a different opinion, be careful what you say as you may throw fecal matter at a fan"
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Some people like the old eye style, others no, and prefers yuki one. And the last time you say yuki eyes makes the model looks weird/lifeless i remember a big spam of comments started agains you, i dont remember in what submission it was.
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I said nevermind anyways.
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Eh. nevermind. Whatever works for you.
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I think it looks cooler, but I dont think they should just "replace" the models for it, have like 2 versions
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Yeah, it sucks having to recompile. Would have been nice if I could just have it as a separate skin. It "does" kinda work that way, but the pupils are way too small (the recompile is to change the base scale of the eyes).
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Yeah, a separate skin would be cool
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It sorta looks like really, really finely polished glass. Though, I can't say I've ever seen a persons eye of that size so I can't really tell if it's weird just because it's massive or not. Looks neat though, just sort of, off? Might be the environment being so simple with a relatively complex looking refraction either. Not sure! But it just looks a tad strange.
It's likely that it looks this way because I've been staring at it for as long as I have. It's piercing. I never really noticed how massive the iris is before.
I can't close my eyes.
I can still see it.
Help.
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I can turn down the refraction levels. May have to play with it. I wouldn't be surprised if it is also dependent on the scene, having to modify the values based on the map. Isn't really hard once the model is set up for it.
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I think it kinda works for a realistic effect but considering their really made for cartoony things ...iunno, it may work for crying?
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WOah!! That too... There's Just no words ;__; It's so beautiful!
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Oh my jesus... It's like looking into glassy lake. This needs to be a thing.
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Not sure if its not too realistic for cartoon-like models.
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I am thinking I may have to convert 1 model and load it into a past video to see if it works when fully animated. May be the only way to see for sure.
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