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Description So, I support the right to die. That is, euthanisia... for humans. I couldn't find another stamp similar to this, and I think it is an important human right that should be common but is rarely given legal rights to. I am an active activist for this right, and in the correct communities you can easily find me supporting this right. As such I receive many e-mails and mails a day asking for help or advice to end their life. Some of these are very earnest and my heart goes out to these people, but the laws in this world would equate my assistance with lethal or immoral action, and my ability to respond to such requests is restricted to deleting or crumpling their mail without a response. And this brings me to tears that the backwards world we live in threatens my liberties to even communicate and to help, and it makes me feel so incredibly selfish when I do not... I can respond, but my own fear of being imprisoned prevents this. I wish I could be more brave, like the real heroes of this world who fought in the past for human rights even at the risk of death or life imprisonment. I do hope to get rid of this cowardice of mine.

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Many people outright are hostile to the idea, and believe people should live in pain up until their last breathe; they should fight and struggle for years on end, and if they give up are cowardly selfish beings, despite that perhaps the idea of forcing a person to live for your own benefit is the selfish idealogy. Others are more receptive to the idea, but only under conditions such as for those who are terminally ill or could only live by assistance from machines. I believe the right should be extended to those who are physically sick, mentally ill, and even those who are simply bored of life.

We euthanize pets on the basis that they "are living in pain", and yet we force a human to go through every available resource to keep the flicker going, even if they don't want to do this anymore. If they don't want to be hooked up to a machine or if daily living is unbearable, they should "be brave, suck it up!" but why? Why, other than the common "the people around you will be sad if you die."

Does NO one think of the person who is in pain? When someone is murdered, everyone looks out for the victim's right. When your pet is in incurable agony, it would be inhumane to impose that pain on them simply because you would be sad when they die. It's sadistc, it's inhumane, it's torture; to inflict pain, to refuse to help relieve pain, or to ridicule people who aren't steel and can't take the pain... for your own benefit, or for anyone else's benefit.

It truely is a sick society when we feel compelled to kick people who are down and is in fact IMMORAL to NOT punish these people, and that the slightest weakness should be looked down upon.

I care about the earth in which we live. I care about the quality of life for all living beings - like yourself - and I care about the life of the slug I found outside or the chickens on the farm or the elephant in Africa, and the cats and dogs we feed every day. The many wild rodents, the birds and insects, and the abundant flora, in which we humans provide a peaceful means to escape if in pain, exempt one species of billions.

I want the competent to have a means of living and dying which is self-determined, self-empowering, and gracefully executed according to compassionate and responsible principles I associate with intelligent and mature human values. This includes clear adult communications about methods to end one's life in a predictable and timely fashion.

From the words of another, "Euthanasia and assisted suicide are covert and unregulated in the Canada of today. Also, their accessibility has more to do with "connections" than with need. They must become available within an open, regulated and equitable system.

People who are suffering intolerably from an incurable condition must have an adequate level of information and support with respect to every one of their options β€” including, though not limited to, the option of a hastened death." - Right to Die Society of Canada.

"I chose the way I lived my life, I should be able to choose how to end my life." - unknown.

"Quality over quantity. It applies to life itself, too." - my own words.

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I'll be creating another one of these with a hemlock in the background, as I feel that'd be more symbolic. That'll be explained on the next one.

If you support any aspect of the right, feel free to still use it... you aren't obligued to use it only if you support it to my extent.

And to those who disagree with it, feel free to voice your opinions but I will respond and more than likely I will not be agreeing.

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As for the artistic aspect of the actual stamp, the background is quite simply an eye with gaussian blur applied and a little tinkering. The eye is the key to the soul, and such and such, and is important in many cultures regarding to death so that's why I used it.

Medium: Digital
Program: Ole' Gimpy.
Time: an hour.

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Font: Smudger LET Thin

Size: 99 x 56 pixels

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Comments: 233

GothicSolitude [2013-12-14 17:33:22 +0000 UTC]

Agree.

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Makayla5672418 [2013-09-09 02:28:36 +0000 UTC]

I love you.
Will you marry me?

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MelodyGlow In reply to Makayla5672418 [2016-02-19 07:19:53 +0000 UTC]

this girl committed suicide in 2010

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FelisLupus In reply to MelodyGlow [2016-07-23 17:43:31 +0000 UTC]

Damn!

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SuicidalArtist000 [2013-06-22 17:11:10 +0000 UTC]

Very good, I support the right to die for all individuals (for whatever reasons they choose or have), as people have a right to their own body, mind, and life.

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Homssutotuli [2013-03-28 17:20:10 +0000 UTC]

I support euthanasia, as well as other personal choices. Everyone deserves mercy.

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Kryptic-Auro [2013-03-07 01:39:01 +0000 UTC]

I think these convey my point of view clearly enough, as I'm not too good with wording my own opinions. I apologize for the quote spam beforehand.

"It is impossible that anything so natural, so necessary, and so universal as death, should ever have been designed by Providence as an evil to mankind."
― Jonathan Swift

β€œThere is a certain right by which we many deprive a man of life, but none by which we may deprive him of death; this is mere cruelty.”
― Friedrich Nietzsche

"People want the right to die at a time of their own choosing. Too many families have watched helplessly as a relative dies slowly, longing for death."
― Polly Toynbee

"The judgement of a person who competently decides to commit suicide is essentially that "my expected future life, under the best conditions possible for me, is so bad that I judge it to be worse than no further continued life at all"."
― Dan Brock

"We do not die because we have to die; we die because one day, and not so long ago, our consciousness was forced to deem it necessary."
― Antonin Artaud

"They tell us that suicide is the greatest piece of cowardice... that suicide is wrong; when it is quite obvious that there is nothing in the world to which every man has a more unassailable title than to his own life and person."
― Arthur Schopenhauer

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MorCav [2013-01-17 04:24:57 +0000 UTC]

I was reading through the comments, I agree with parts of this stamp, and even if you can't reply, I feel like you can see what everyone is saying. May you rest in peace.

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funlakota [2012-12-27 23:33:51 +0000 UTC]

I can understand where you come from, and I agree somewhat. It's easy to say this for terminal illnesses-- I do agree in those cases provided there is some regulation and all that. And it's not really pleasant to just let nature take its course sometimes. People in vegetative states can take weeks to die when they're not on any true life-support like respirators. Usually these people are only 'staying alive' by feeding tubes. But guess what? Because they are not expending any energy, they stay alive until their 'food stores' (carbs, fats, proteins) are depleted... or they die of dehydration first (which can also take a while in them). It is very hard for everyone involved in these people's care to wait for them to die naturally. In comparison those who are taken off respirators die pretty quickly. It can still be hard for everyone else though. =/

But there's one type of illness this will be very hard to apply to: mental illnesses. These also cause severe pain and suffering-- many with them say they're worse than other types of illnesses-- but at the same time the person with them is not in the best frame of mind to make these sort of decisions.

Plus suicidal thoughts and attempts are considered a symptom of severe (and often untreated) mental illnesses. Like severe cases of depression, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, and some anxiety disorders. Docs will assume that the person has a mental illness first to be on the safe side.

So do we just let these people die to end their suffering? Those disorders are treatable most of the time, and people who are successfully treated for the majority of them no longer want to die afterwards. Do we treat these people or not? Do we encourage them to continue with treatment even if it doesn't seem to help at first? (It can take a while to find the right treatment protocol. I've known people who have gone thru like 10 antidepressants before finding one that worked. That translates into a little over a year of trial-and-error.) Or do we just give up and let them make a decision when they might be in too much pain to think straight?

I'm saying this from personal experience. At one point I wanted to die. Too much pain and suffering from depression. Then I got help, and now I don't want to die anymore. I still have depression, just no more suicidal thoughts. But if I went by what you were suggesting, I might have just given up.

Just things to consider, I guess.

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N0XI0US--GLiTCH [2012-11-13 22:43:49 +0000 UTC]

Agreed up until I read about for those who are bored of life. Or people, whom are depressed. I think they should be offered help before slapping the needle in their hand. I think that person should be offered help, because, not realizing it, they may not truly want death. A couple of more reasons, but I don't really want to make an argument with someone who has passed away.

otherwise my thumb is up, in both agreement and support.

RIP :\

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Sonic1234567891 [2012-06-06 03:18:16 +0000 UTC]

should be a constitutional right

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EbolaSparkleBear [2012-04-09 22:28:35 +0000 UTC]

For the terminally ill, crippled, or seriously mentally disabled, I am all for it. They can check out at will, no questions asked.

For people 'just bored' or upset in life, I think the standards should be a little higher, not because I want to force people to live but because I'd like to sift through the people who are just having hard time and really do not want to die.

There is no reset. So vigilance is required.

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N0XI0US--GLiTCH In reply to EbolaSparkleBear [2012-11-13 22:35:23 +0000 UTC]

Agreed.

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give-me-a-name [2012-03-29 22:01:26 +0000 UTC]

Me too! Thanks for posting this. I fully agree with you, even for people who simply just don't want to be a part of this world and arent' suffering. (<--- Though I have no hesitation deterring these people, but they still should have a right to take their life. xD)

I had a discussion during a class about this sort of thing. I'd hate to live in a world where medical science becomes so advanced that doctors do everything they can to make sure "NO ONE" dies o________O, or something close to that. That would suck, especially if you are terminally ill and you just want to get it over with, but by future government rules, you have to be kept alive. People's spirits should be free when they feel like they have had enough I think part of the issue is that people keep seeing "death" as this bad thing. It only seems bad if you choose to see it that way. It can actually be really beautiful if you think about it, the fact that even with a death, new life forms (dead debris on the ground is nutrient to the soil which feeds new seedlings) And who knows, death may just be the end of one adventure, and the start of another

"despite that perhaps the idea of forcing a person to live for your own benefit is the selfish idealogy. " So true! I thought about this myself. You know, I totally understand that some peopel believe you should live your life until the end and that you can't take it away under any circumstances, however, I'd feel that would be selfish to ascribe that TO SOMEONE. It's fine if you want to live that way, but to ostracize someone for wanting to end their life, especially if they are suffering, is selfish. It's their body, not yours. Their god may punish them for ending their life early but it is for GOD TO JUDGE nobody else.

Thank you for being an activist. I think this is a really important issue too. Here in america, there are only a few states that allow assisted suicide under certain circumstances.

"I wish I could be more brave, like the real heroes of this world who fought in the past for human rights even at the risk of death or life imprisonment. I do hope to get rid of this cowardice of mine." This brought me to tears here! I know EXACTLY how you feel. Being an activist, more so in other areas, I sometimes feel like I have to hide my opinions in certain cases so I don't get the lash of a whip >.> Once again, I know EXACTLY how you feel, and I'm struggling with the same thing, the true heroes were the ones that were willing to die for their fight for justice. However, a certain quote from MLK has made me a bit more confident β€œNever, never be afraid to do what's right, especially if the well-being of a person or animal is at stake. Society's punishments are small compared to the wounds we inflict on our soul when we look the other way.” -Martin Luther King, Jr.

YOu seem like such a wonderful person! I can't tell you how much this JUST MAKES SENSE. Gah more hugs

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give-me-a-name In reply to give-me-a-name [2012-03-29 22:05:54 +0000 UTC]

Ohhh, and I didn't realize until now, but rest in peace, or have fun on your new adventure, hun

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Merno2 [2012-03-22 00:06:33 +0000 UTC]

I commented on this post May 13, 2011, but feel I need to be more specific about my feelings regarding the right to die.

I am Avalik's (Adele) mom, and have been grieving the death of my daughter for almost 18 months now. I have felt suicidal because of her death, but I know I have to stay, as I could never put my other daughter through this pain again. Losing somebody through suicide is exceptionally different than from any other method.

Having said that – here's the difference: Adele had the right. I do not. Why? because she had a severe mental illness which was not treatable (it might have gone into remission in another 10 or 20 years). 80% of people with her illness attempt suicide, 20% succeed. She did not have good days. She had some good hours, some days; she had some good minutes, some days; she lived in hell, many days. I WILL recover from my pain one day; it is unlikely she would have – or even if guaranteed, to ask somebody to be in severe emotional pain for another 10 to 20 years is asking too much. There is only so much one soul can tolerate.

The question to ask is: do you want to be dead or do you want to get rid of the pain?

I believe most would answer "I want to get rid of the pain". If that is the case, please remember that as intense as your pain might be, with help most people will recover. The statement: "Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem" is true in most cases.

So, before you make that permanent decision, please reach out for help first. Give it a lot of thought.

If anybody feels like this, and would like to chat, you can email me at gatelock@telus.net

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HeartStorm4ever In reply to Merno2 [2016-06-15 03:37:06 +0000 UTC]

I'm so sorry for your loss. I... did tried suicide once; fortunately my mother was able to stop me in time. I wasn't ill, like your daughter; I was simply depressed after being abused for several years. Thankfully, my mother got me the help I needed, and even though I still have those thoughts sometimes, I no longer try anything.
I can never say that I know of what you are going through or of what your daughter was going through. It must be awful...
Nowadays, I use my experiences to help others that are in the same place that I was back then. I can never force them to keep on living, though. No one can! I simply show them that they have a choice and to always think very carefully before choosing their path.

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Distance-Diz [2012-03-16 18:45:14 +0000 UTC]

I support the right to death as well, people have others legally executed all the bloody time but when someone is suffering profusely they say "Just keep fighting, you could beat this!" No one should have to suffer more than they need to even if the pain is an emotional pain.

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ADHDnoJutsu [2012-01-26 22:43:08 +0000 UTC]

It breaks my heart to think about the artist's work, knowing she has ended her life. I do however, support her right to chosen death. Because as she wrote - it is unfair to demand of the suffering to "suck it up" just so others won't, err, be sad. Because being sad is so much worse than whatever you could possibly WANT TO DIE for...
Yeah, I am sad now even though I didn't know this deviant. But I'd hate myself if I'd made her stay alive is she'd hated it. Her life = her decision. We all need to respect this simple equasion.

Also, so we're not sad when a suicidal loved one stays alive. Hooray. Must be so great to be around a WRECK who wants to DIE because they're SUFFERING. Must feel great to be the one keeping them around for the sake of an overrated decency... How do you sleep at night? Some people watch those vampire and other immortal movies and feel so sorry for an immortal character for not being able to get out of this loooooooong boooooring life. And those characters usually have a pretty awesome life. But no one understands those in real life, who have a valid reason to hate sticking around. What a messed up world.

I tried on the 10. of June 2009, and after having read my letter, even my mother thought she would not have let them recussitate me if she'd been able to stop them.
After I woke up, I found myself locked up for 3 weeks, abused by staff, locked up in conditions similar to sensory deprivation torture in Guantanamo bay, and no one gave a fuck when I asked for a doctor's consult because I'd just miscarried. That ordeal didn't exactly convince me that life was worth clinging on to. It merely deterred me from further attempts to end it because - FUCK I DON'T WANT THAT SHIT AGAIN! You get ignored, treated like shit, belittled when alive, and punished for trying to remove yourself from everyone's sight as they seemed to want you to.

If I cannot decide over my very life, then what is truly mine?
People are allowed to be alcoholics, spread Aids, be hateful, ruin their health smoking, disfigure themselves with "body modification art", demean themselves, make themselves a laughing stock or a bully target. They are allowed to suffer to no end.
But not to die. What. The. Fuck.

As for myself, I'm still bored of life, but I decided to use my experience and my energy for new life and joy, rather than break my mother's cracked and bruised heart. So if you'll excuse me now, I have a sperm bank to visit. Because despite my negativity, I believe that the world and life are wonderful and worth investing in. However I totally understand when this "wonderfulness" gets too clouded to appreciate.

Seriously though, suicide has not taught me the value of life. It has not given me this over-rated clichΓ© "OMG second chance, all is so great, the sky so much bluer"-bullshit. I'm still fat, bored, sad, angry, and I have a stock of killer pills if I ever feel like it.
It's going on as I did before my suicide attempt - rotting away, grasping occasional opportunities - that I've gotten out of the worst of it, not by waking from a coma with my wrists cuffed to the goddamned ICU bed, realizing how great life is.

Rest in peace, Adele.

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himico-chan [2012-01-12 22:11:27 +0000 UTC]

I agree with everything but the "bored of life" bit.
You made amazing points and I've told my family if I ended up in a situation where my life was hanging by a wire and it seemed that I was never coming back, just to let me go.

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artemis1031 [2011-12-13 00:53:02 +0000 UTC]

i agree completely

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crazylacey [2011-11-19 18:30:24 +0000 UTC]

so if I wanted to kill myself.I have the right to do so?

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VladmiesserDiVisker [2011-11-13 11:24:42 +0000 UTC]

I agree. I've heard people say that we're kinder to our dogs than to our elders in some cases.

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crumbleupsoul [2011-11-12 04:48:01 +0000 UTC]

My opinion
Its there choice like I think this should only be able to be used when the people are real sick and have cancer
I think its aint no buddy elses problem except family
If i ever had cancer and knew the inevitable I would like this instead

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Cuffermix [2011-10-25 00:32:48 +0000 UTC]

My opinion on this?

Bottom line: it's their bodies, their lives. People should have the liberty to decide what to do with it.

Same line with abortion. It's nobody's business but the person in question.

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Outsidethesphere [2011-10-08 15:38:53 +0000 UTC]

In my eyes, you can choose between these two options:

Commit Suicide and lose your life forever, with no way to get it back, and have all your friends and family mourn and maybe even commit suicide themselves.

Go on with your life and live the rest of your life and make accomplishments, friends, and generally mend the emotional heals that scarred you. Emotions are just useless chemicals anyway- suicide is just a catastrophic waste of life.

The only reason I'm still alive right now is because I chose the latter, and of course, my life quickly got by far better.

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Kiakime [2011-09-25 02:56:00 +0000 UTC]

I believe in keeping people alive by telling them how much they're loved and needed. but not by just forcing them into it. I think calling someone a coward and kicking them while they're down is a deplorable and terrible thing to do.

so I guess I support this stamp, too.

It feels out of place to just click a button and favorite this and put it with other stamps reading "I love coffee" and "I like tvtropes", but I don't know.

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The-Sanrio-fanboy [2011-09-08 21:41:35 +0000 UTC]

I heard you can go to hell for killing yourself.

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alaskaonthemoon In reply to The-Sanrio-fanboy [2011-10-06 20:07:27 +0000 UTC]

yes, but see, there really is no hell, not if you're already there.

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WickedGhoul [2011-08-24 01:39:48 +0000 UTC]

I agree with this but part of me doesn't.
I understand why stopping someone from killing themselves is selfish. Most of the time (both online and off) I hear that people want to kill themselves because they feel like no one appreciates or cares about them. So I would tell them that people do care about them so they don't leave this Earth thinking no ones cares, so in that sense I don't agree with this stamp. But I do agree mostly. If someone is suffering, they should have the choice of whether or not to go through with the pain.

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Creep135 [2011-08-16 01:57:53 +0000 UTC]

Reminds me of the lyrics to the song soup is good food :/
" We know how much you'd like to die
We joke about it on our coffee breaks
But we're paid to force you to have a nice day"

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TheRubyAlchemist [2011-06-18 01:11:05 +0000 UTC]

I halfway agree with this... I do think that, just as there should be a right to live, there should be a right to die, but at the same time, there are so many people who chose to die, over an issue that's short lived... teenage depression, for example - I suffered from it as well, cut myself, did bad things, but after a while, I grew to realize it wasn't accomplishing me anything. So many people give up before they're able to move on... Though I can't comdemn them, having felt that kind of despair every day... I only wish there might have been someone there for them to guide them through their hardships

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6NAKED6AMBITION6 [2011-06-08 07:28:06 +0000 UTC]

I agree with you!I came across this tonight because i typed "I WANT TO DIE" in search box.I won't go into to to much detail but my life has been very hard,Most all my life...i have been abused by many ppl..including my mother and father and stepdad ..boyfriends and my x-husband.I have been raped many many times..i have had problems with alcoholism since the age of 9..and many drug problems too.I have had a bad night,well just about everynight for a long time.I dnt usually talk to to many people about it because ifeel bad,i know there are so many other ppl in this crazy world that have and have had it much worse than myself.My only reason for staying alive each day is my BEAUTIFUL BABY~GIRL!!!!She saved me from staying with her abusive father..and i saved her from a childhood of heel like i lived thru!Anyway,years ago i attempt suicide more than once but it didnt work and if i didnt have my girl i would try again.!I'm working on becoming a better and happier person so i can be the best mom i can be!I think ppl should die if they want,i know it would hurt other ppl,but one shouldnt have to live if they dnt want to!I really love the way you put it out there.I really enjoyed ur view on the subject!

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Merno2 [2011-05-13 22:33:04 +0000 UTC]

It makes me angry when I read/hear people calling suicide a cowardly act. I believe that it takes tremendous courage to take that final step.

It is my daughter that started this discussion. I watched her in deep emotional pain for seven years – she was brave to stay as long as she did. These people that somehow believe that unbearable physical pain is worse than unbearable emotional pain obviously have no idea of what a person experiences when they suffer from severe depression and/or other mental health problems. You have a right to be against suicide, but do not judge the person that is 'forced' to make this hard decision.

Seven months after her death, not a day goes by that I don't cry. I miss her tremendously. But in many ways I grieve the hard life she led as much as I grieve her death. She suffered an illness where medication could not give relief. She was looking at another 10 to 20 years before she MIGHT go into remission.

As I stood by in her final hours, I told her (even though she was unconscious): "I will not ask you to stay, because that would be selfish", "I am not angry, I know how hard you tried".

It is true, that to expect somebody to stay in a world they find unbearable – for whatever reason – is a completely selfish expectation. We need to give people love, understanding and support, but when these are not enough we need to put judgement aside.

When we sleep our body heals. When we die our soul heals.

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Decuss [2011-05-05 06:08:08 +0000 UTC]

Right On! I hate that we have laws against suicide and assisted suicide, it's just stupid. Thank you for making this stamp, i support the right to die too, thank you, we need more people like you.

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SuperStarly [2011-04-15 17:19:54 +0000 UTC]

I think.
no matter what happens a person needs to grasp the value of their life.
Even if you have to pull yourself up out of the darkness by a spiders thread
if you admit defeat there's no going back. End your own live and you've
amited defeat. The idea sickens me. Cowardly. However if a person is termialy
ill they should be givent he right to end end their own life if they are suffering
extreme pain that can not be cured. Sadness or Bordom can be cured in many
ways. I would like to ask. Would you admit defeat?

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hazelthewolf [2011-03-30 07:09:22 +0000 UTC]

I whole-heartedly agree with this.
Now I only agree in terms of human euthanasia; To be more specific, I only believe in human euthanasia when the person is suffering a terminal illness from which they're suffering horrific pains that cannot be treated, and when it's guaranteed that their illness will only worsen and is incurable.
People say "With technology we have now, we can give them pain medication so they can overcome the pain they are suffering."
* So the patient will be drugged the rest of their life ? To overcome some of the pain some of these people go through, you would need VERY strong medications which are bound to leave the patient almost lifeless, anyway. I don't think they want to be drowsy the rest of their life, either.
* As someone had commented already saying this, there are some levels of pain that even our medication today can't cure someone from.
In these cases, human euthanasia should be available. In cases of depression or being mentally ill, they should be treated and helped.

I also couldn't help but ignore the comparison between pet euthanasia and human euthanasia: I think that if pets are allowed to be euthanized to be 'put out of their misery', humans can, as well. It makes no sense that you can be allowed to put your pet out of its suffering, but yet, you have to watch your blood relative suffer ?

As I read through comments, I also just found out the maker of this stamp isn't with us anymore.
R.I.P.

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tophat95 [2011-03-11 04:34:58 +0000 UTC]

I'm on the fence about this. I wouldn't ever do this (the details of suicide being an unforgivable sin are a bit. . .undecipherable) and I wouldn't WANT anyone I know to do this, but as you said- it's their life, it's their choice. I don't tolerate suicide, but I wouldn't judge a person for doing so, if that makes sense.

Life is bleak and a bit unbearable at times, but someone's outlook on life can decide if that life is worth living. People with any kind of handicap, illness, etc can change that outlook and come to realize that they can be happy- they change their minds and end up glad that they didn't take their life. I think that's the only reason it isn't legalized. It gives them the chance to reconsider things.
The same thing goes for people with addictions or depressions. They might not be in pain, but they do not want to live, but with the right support as time passes they change that outlook. Once a dark time passes, they enjoy what they couldn't have if they had died.

I don't know if that made any sense. It made sense in my head, but I don't know how to describe the theory.

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KestinSha [2011-02-11 00:04:22 +0000 UTC]

As much as some people still refuse to admit it, death is NOT the worst possible thing! Anyone should have the right to end their own life or commission someone else to do so (the phrase "my body, my choice" works well here), and just because modern medicine can keep someone's heart beating forever doesn't mean it's always the right thing to do.

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ElynneCostumes [2011-01-22 22:12:12 +0000 UTC]

It's funny how everyone goes on and on about "everyone has the right to live"
Of course they do. But it's your own life. If you don't want to go on anymore, who is there to tell you, you can't? I think it's pathetic how other people who don't have anything to do with you, try to control your will and your life by saying you can't do what you want to do.
"Everyone has a right to live - Until you want to die that is." Because then you'll be forced to live on. It's sad and pathetic and I just wish people could pick their own deaths instead of resorting to horrible suicides.
Euthanasia is a good thing. If someone suffers and wants to be done with it - They should be able to do so. It's their choice and no one else's. Illness or not.

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Psychodragoncat [2011-01-20 01:00:47 +0000 UTC]

If we can put pets out of their misery, why does my grampa have to suffer till his last breath?

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Dalek1965 [2010-11-14 04:49:17 +0000 UTC]

Humans are animals, too. Therefore, if someone says they support animal euthaniasia, then by default, they support human euthanasia. However, killing yourself or another due to suffering or boredom with life IS cowardly. That's taking the easy way out, and we all know how THAT works out.

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Rous2010 In reply to Dalek1965 [2010-12-01 04:31:07 +0000 UTC]

Um, no. Killing a human is not the same than killing an animal. While animals have feelings and some degree of intelligence, they can't be compared to humans. Human beings have intellect, will, freedom and reason. Humans can choose. Animals can't. Humans can think. Animals can't. See? It is not the same.
I think killing is never right, but, like I said before, if an animal is in unbereable pain, I do consider euthanasia as a choice. Does this mean I support human euthanasia? No. Never.
However, I agree with the easy way out thing. It's absolutely coward.

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Kitty-Liz In reply to Rous2010 [2011-05-31 03:04:19 +0000 UTC]

You want an opinion? Have mine kid.

Live, love, laugh my ass. That is all.

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Rous2010 In reply to Kitty-Liz [2011-05-31 20:57:31 +0000 UTC]

Okay.

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WerewolfOfTheWater In reply to Rous2010 [2010-12-08 04:32:40 +0000 UTC]

Oh yeah, and your logic? You have none.

Let's get something straight...

So because humans are capable of thinking abstractly, that somehow, for some reason, means that a suffering human should be forced to live against their will, while a suffering animal should just be put down?

So an animal deserves more compassion and relief than a human, because...humans are smarter? What?

Now, is putting an animal down for you really done out of compassion for the animal? Because it sounds more like you'd do it more for yourself, for not wanting to deal with it. Just like you'd prefer if a human is forced to live against their will, to prolong having to deal with their death. Well, you'll have to do it anyway, sorry.

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WerewolfOfTheWater In reply to Rous2010 [2010-12-08 04:28:10 +0000 UTC]

Animals can't think? Since when? If they couldn't think, how could they have ANY "degree of intelligence" at all?

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paramoreSUCKS In reply to Rous2010 [2010-12-03 23:03:29 +0000 UTC]

So... you would rather let someone who is terminally ill die a slow, agonizing death than euthanize them or did I misinterpret your comments?

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Rous2010 In reply to paramoreSUCKS [2010-12-05 14:56:08 +0000 UTC]

I don't believe there is such thing as a "slow, agonizing death". Modern medicine is capable of avoiding the patient's suffering to a point that they don't have to go through an extreme pain. And even if modern science can't do that, it's better to let them suffer (like I said before, we learn a lot through suffering) than killing them. It sounds harsh, I know, but I believe that is the right thing to do.

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skinnyveestamp In reply to Rous2010 [2011-01-07 02:05:49 +0000 UTC]

I'm not here to argue with you, but I just wanted to add a little input. I can say from personal experience that there is a certain threshold of pain that can't be helped with medicine. . . and sometimes, the regimen of medications and procedures in of itself can be torment. I'm not going to touch the debate per se because both sides are passionate and I can understand why both arguments are made.

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