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I made a whole post above the size of Indarctos here.Refereces/Referencias
Roussiakis, S. J. (2001). Postcranial remains of lndarctos atticus (Ursidae, Mammalia) from the classical locality of Pikermi (Attica, Greece), with a description of the front limb. Senckenbergiana lethaea 81(2), 347-358.
Merriam, J. C., Stock, C. and Moody, C. L. (1916). An American Pliocene bear. University of California Publications Bulletin of the Department of Geology, 10 (7): 87-109.
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vasix [2014-04-13 15:45:24 +0000 UTC]
I myself wonder why in the world people would exaggerate these extinct animals so much, especially when they're known from a few fragmentary remains. It's so easy to present misinformation that defies physical and natural laws these days, and then I see Mauricio Anton's size comparison of Miocene carnivores and then this, and I wonder: Why the hell can't people appreciate these animals as they were without overestimating them and their capabilities? I mean and Indarctos can still kill a person if he crosses it even at this size so there's really no need to go too farΒ
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bLAZZE92 In reply to vasix [2014-04-14 02:49:51 +0000 UTC]
I wonder the same thing... I just read a response by Mauricio Anton to a review ofΒ one of his books, he outlined something that I think is related to the exaggeration of prehistoric animals, a lot of people don't want them to look familiar, they want weird, monstrous creatures, which also reminds me of people arguing against feathers in theropod dinosaurs, they don't like them being like "normal" animals, they want dragons.
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vasix In reply to bLAZZE92 [2014-04-15 01:28:23 +0000 UTC]
It's the human condition. We may not want to admit it but we constantly want to imply that the "there were giants in the Earth in those days" line was absolutely true and so put everything on steroids. Even the original line is "there were Nephilim in the Earth in those days", but well when you're human things get so lost in translation!
And Β Ithink the book would be "Mammoths, Hominids and Sabertooths"
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bLAZZE92 In reply to vasix [2014-05-03 02:39:12 +0000 UTC]
Agreed, and yes, that's the book!
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vasix In reply to bLAZZE92 [2014-05-04 03:22:46 +0000 UTC]
ha, i guessed as much! i love Anton's work to pieces actually, and will be getting "Sabertooth" in a month's time
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Yutyrannus [2014-03-17 23:14:53 +0000 UTC]
Will you also do Agriotherium? That's also a very large prehistoric bear.
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SpinoInWonderland [2014-03-14 06:00:04 +0000 UTC]
Hah, nowhere near the absurd ~3-tonne bear it has been presented as. Great work!
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bLAZZE92 In reply to SpinoInWonderland [2014-03-14 06:38:16 +0000 UTC]
Thanks! In all fairness, the authors of the paper where that estimate appeared made clear that it was highly improbable but you know the nature of the internet.
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SpinoInWonderland In reply to bLAZZE92 [2014-03-14 06:51:19 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, most people on the interwebs were too gullible and they just skipped over that improbability thing.
I mean really, seriously? Indarctos being a giant multi-tonne bear that can fight an Allosaurus? Give me a break. Terrestrial carnivorous mammals aren't well-adapted to be that large.
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