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"I honestly don't really like Millie. She never had much appeal to me and I feel like she was too mean to Blossomfall, but I can understand why she was acting the way she was."or
"I don't think Millie deserves all the hate that she gets. She's done some bad things but everyone makes mistakes."
Ok cool.
"ANYONE WHO LIKES MILLIE IS FUCKING STUPID. CAN'T THEY SEE HOW MUCH OF A BITCH SHE WAS?"
or
"HOW FUCKING DARE YOU INSULT MILLIE. SHE'S FUCKING PERFECT. SHUT UP AND GO DIE."
sToP.
So recently I received some comments from Millie supporters and it encourged (for the lack of a better word lol) me to redraw this:
and rehash my opinions on Millie.
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My opinions on Millie have changed a bit over the years; I don't hate her as much as I used to, but I still dislike her. [LENGTHY RANT AHEAD I'M SORRY; skip to the cut if you'd like]
My anger against her have fizzled because I've seen people bring up a few good points. She brought Graystripe back home. She was only worried about Briarlight because she had almost lost her two times before. She acted the way she did against Blossomfall because of her stress. I could go on.
I mean, compared to Rainflower, Millie is an absolute ANGEL.
Although I am completely aware of these points, personally, Millie has never been much of an appealing character. Here are my reasons :
First off, I will not use the argument "Millie stole Graystripe from Silverstream" because Silverstream has consented Graystripe's relationship with Millie and supports it. (and the fact that the Erins confirmed Graystripe will choose Silverstream when he enters StarClan is punishment enough for Millie lol... Graystripe and Millie's relationship in the novels wasn't that great anyways.)
Millie...just doesn't do much. I haven't read the books in a long time, but from what I recall, I don't think Millie has done anything significant after she brought Graystripe home (but even so, Graystripe just doesn't seem as fun of a character at all when he comes back, compared to the original series). The only think I remember her for is fussing constantly for her kits and sharing prey with Graystripe.
Millie coddles Briarlight excessively. Yes, I understand that she almost died twice, but doesn't that in a sense show Millie that she's a fighter? Jayfeather is there to take care of her and Briarlight has shown to be strong and independent.
There are other mothers in the series who have experienced traumatic events with their kits. Frostfur was the mother of Cinderpelt AND Brightheart, yet she didn't go hysterical and yell her other children. (YES, i get that Frostfur was born a clan cat and is used to violence and injuries, but she had two of her own kits mangled and defaced and still remained calm and loving to her other children.)
I've seen people say that Blossomfall is a bratty attention whore and that she's the bad guy. People compare her to Bumblestripe and say that he didn't care if Millie ignored him. I agree that she was acting a bit childish, but every cat has their individual personalities and what they deem "acceptable behavior" from their parents. It's like that when they were kits, Blossomfall grew accustomed to being pampered by her mother. That's why when Millie started ignoring her, Blossomfall felt neglected and jealous. Sometimes, you can't help those feelings. Blossomfall herself has said that she felt guilty for having them.
Then Blossomfall and Ivypool went into the tunnels. Blossomfall openly expresses "Will Millie miss me if I die down here?". She's truly insecure about how her mother views her. I don't think that this is "bratty". A lot of children who are ignored by their parents will doubt their love for them and make them feel neglected. When they return, Millie does something that I really don't like. She berates Blossomfall, confirming Blossomfall's fears and making her believe that Millie would not have missed her if she had died in the tunnels.
Millie says that what they did was irresponsible, which I agree to; they were wasting their time and were being dumb. But then she goes on to her to "grow up and become a proper warrior." Um. Proper warrior? Millie, who stays back in the clan and whines and cries and coddles Briarlight apparently know what it means to be a proper warrior. I don't remember seeing Millie go out and hunt for Briarlight, so why does she so strongly feel as though Blossomfall has to?
She goes on to say that "Briarlight would do anything to help feed the clan." Ok, way to go. Not only are you making Blossomfall feel like you wouldn't care if she died, but now you're comparing her to Briarlight. THE VERY THING THAT SHE IS FEELING GUILT ABOUT. that is one big no-no. (correct me if I'm wrong, I read this on the wiki) Brackenfur even approaches Millie and says that the important thing is that they're safe. She then proceeds to yell at him.
People have said "Well, Blossomfall should've confronted her mother about it." But after all those things that Millie has said, would Blossomfall really have felt secure enough to open up to her mom? Also, shouldn't Millie be the ADULT and talk to Blossomfall FIRST?
I don't really remember what time frame the above scene took place, but it also unnerves me. Blossomfall isn't the one who confronts her mother about the injury. She didn't want to take her mother's "attention". Hazeltail has to be the one who calls her and tells her "Hey, I think your daughter's sick." Millie then waves her of in a very "I DON'T GIVE A SHIT" way and says "What? She's fine. I have to go check on Briarlight." Really? Briarlight can live a five minutes without your attention. What ticks me off is that Millie doesn't even take a second to walk over and ask what's wrong.
tbh, I would like Millie a lot more if the Erins had included some sort of scene where she and Blossomfall console in eachother and apologize. But sadly it never happened. Afterwards, Millie just seemed indifferent to the whole situation.
I guess all of my reasons above are invalid if you play the "she was hysterical" card, but eh, those who defend Millie would have found a way to counter me anyways.
tl,dr; I have no doubt in my mind that Millie loves her kits. I know she does. She's not a terrible mother, but for the reasons above she's certainly not one of the best either. I can understand why people like her and that's totally ok! I just personally am not fond of her.
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Point is, people who are allowed to love Millie have all the right to. They are allowed to defend her and admire her. Likewise, people who dislike Millie are entitled to their opinion and are allowed to express why.
What is not ok is when you get disrespectful and personal about it. Do not insult someone personally because of their preference or dislike for a character. Do not wish death upon them. Do not get overly passionate about trying to change someone's mind about a character. Do not get butthurt over FICTIONAL CATS.
I'm actually thinking about closing the comments on the old drawing. I've looked through them the other day and it's a bit of a mess. x'D
Feel free to leave your opinions, but please be tasteful and respectful. 'preciate it.
aa well i wasted 45 minutes typing that and now im tired. sorry if there are grammar/spelling mistakes anywhere i will proofread later.
g'day.
do not use, redistribute, repost my art and/or my characters without my permission thanks
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Comments: 488
Turn-Tech-Biologist In reply to ??? [2016-06-09 21:41:29 +0000 UTC]
Compared to rainflower,everyone is an angel.
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silvermistfeather In reply to Turn-Tech-Biologist [2016-07-20 22:38:46 +0000 UTC]
yeah like EVEN MILLIE WAS BETTER LOL
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Spookykitty9 In reply to ??? [2016-06-06 00:04:15 +0000 UTC]
Thank you. You just outlined how I feel about Millie.
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CascadingSerenity In reply to Spookykitty9 [2016-06-06 01:31:53 +0000 UTC]
you're welcome c:
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DamagedChaos In reply to ??? [2016-06-05 02:03:11 +0000 UTC]
I don't like Millie either. I didn't like her from the beginning but the way she acted after Briarlight got hurt just pushed me to hate her. I don't believe she's a good mother, a good mother would not push away her other kits just because one got hurt. She's pretty much in the same boat as Rainflower for me :/ Worst mothers ever-
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silvershade21XD In reply to ??? [2016-06-03 02:15:01 +0000 UTC]
lol like a quote in a video said, " ppl rather see alone and miserable rather than with Millie and happy "
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htfcocoandluara In reply to ??? [2016-06-02 16:14:33 +0000 UTC]
Sliverstream was better than Millie....but when Graystripe goes to Starclan...chooses Sliverstream over Millie.
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DancingHearts120 In reply to htfcocoandluara [2017-03-18 15:16:29 +0000 UTC]
I disagree. Millie is a far better mate than Silverstream. If Silverstream survived, she would leave her kits and go see Graystripe. Silverstream was bratty, and would've been a bad mother. Graystripe also moved on to Millie, how spent more time together.
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YeenaDeena In reply to DancingHearts120 [2017-06-27 01:54:26 +0000 UTC]
shut the fuck up. Millie is just a ripoff of Silverstream. an ugly one too. Have you seen her design in the manga? Ugly as hell. My baby Silverstream didn't deserve to die for some witch
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DancingHearts120 In reply to YeenaDeena [2017-06-29 02:11:08 +0000 UTC]
That was a bit harsh.
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silvermistfeather In reply to htfcocoandluara [2016-07-20 22:39:29 +0000 UTC]
yeah I agree silverstream would never be like millie
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DancingHearts120 In reply to silvermistfeather [2017-04-11 01:20:16 +0000 UTC]
Silverstream was a complete brat though. She only cared about herself and Graystripe and thought everything would go her way just because she was the clan leader's daughter. Millie on the other hand/paw is a tsundere.
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htfcocoandluara In reply to silvermistfeather [2016-07-21 23:49:47 +0000 UTC]
Yup... I wish Silverstream lived.
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silvermistfeather In reply to htfcocoandluara [2016-07-22 16:57:47 +0000 UTC]
millie should have died
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TheGreatLemur In reply to ??? [2016-05-22 21:30:44 +0000 UTC]
My opinion on Millie used to be that I just hated her, but now I see why people like her. She brought Graystripe home, and she's seen Briarlight almost die about 3 times now, actually [greencough, snake, tree]. But Millie seems pretty neglectful of Bumblestripe and Blossomfall especially. Blossomfall felt guilty about wanting her mom's love, and she ended up in the Dark Forest for that. Millie also can't leave Briarlight's side for five minutes. It was Jayfeather that convinced Briarlight that her life was worth living, not Millie. Millie was part of the problem. All she does is dote and whine and cry about Briarlight. And Millie hasn't done anything significant anyway, so she can't judge Blossomfall about her warrior duties that harshly. And Millie argued with Jayfeather [in front of the whole clan] about how he was pushing Briarlight too hard and that Briar would never be a full warrior. Why can't Millie just be happy that Briar is safe and healthy and happy? Millie isn't one of my favorite characters.
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UncleanSiblingEnder In reply to ??? [2016-05-14 20:53:06 +0000 UTC]
I know you guys always hate on Millie but did anyone see a minute of Graystripe throughout those three's lives (besides sometimes kithood)?
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SpaceWolfcake In reply to ??? [2016-05-13 00:11:18 +0000 UTC]
That little Bitch..
Gimme ideas how to kill her guys, STAT!
Rules: Needs to be Gory.
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silvermistfeather In reply to SpaceWolfcake [2016-07-20 22:41:29 +0000 UTC]
I KNOW GRAB A KNIFE SOME FOXES AND START ATTACKING HER THEN CUT HER THROAT AND GIVE HER MORE CUTS FOR A GOOD MERSURE
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SpaceWolfcake In reply to silvermistfeather [2016-07-21 00:19:18 +0000 UTC]
LETS ALL DO THE IDEAS, MILLIE HATERS, ATTACK!!!!!!!!!!!!
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SpaceWolfcake In reply to iiWaffle-Chan [2016-07-01 15:12:39 +0000 UTC]
So you're a Millie Fan... If so... GET EM MILLIE HATERS XD
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heavenle0024 In reply to SpaceWolfcake [2016-06-29 19:26:58 +0000 UTC]
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm cut her open take all her organ out take her eyes out and cut her limbs off?
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SpaceWolfcake In reply to heavenle0024 [2016-06-29 20:01:57 +0000 UTC]
Great Great, I got an idea.. LETS DO ALL OF YOUR IDEAS! )
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Chica247 In reply to ??? [2016-04-14 23:12:51 +0000 UTC]
I really liked Millie in the manga, but after that her personality seemed to drastically change. And Briarlight didn't even want all that attention :/ Personally though I like her because of the manga, but I don't love her. I just think she's better than Silverstream lol, I don't like Silverstream
And i love how you shade the chest fluff .3.
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Streamwhisker1 In reply to ??? [2016-04-13 02:52:58 +0000 UTC]
millie is horrible!!! i hate her, she sucks
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DancingHearts120 In reply to MossFur0206 [2017-04-11 01:23:42 +0000 UTC]
Silverstream is bratty and obnoxious.
Millie can be annoying, but everyone forgets everything good about her. She was extremely nice and welcoming in Bramblestar's Storm. Blossomfall is a bratty full grown cat who makes everything seem like it wasn't her fault, when it wasn't!
If it was Millie's fault Blossomfall was in the Dark Forest, then it's Blossomfall's fault Ivypool was in the Dark Forest, and Bumblestripe would've been in the Dark Forest.
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White-ferrets In reply to ??? [2016-03-11 01:36:47 +0000 UTC]
Honestly I agree with you, Millie's a bad mother, she pays all her attention to briarlight as though she's begging for attention.
I could go on for a while but I don't want to waste anyone's time (-\/- ',)
and..
I've been watching your art before I had a DA, and you've REALLY improved alot!!!
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CascadingSerenity In reply to White-ferrets [2016-03-11 01:40:11 +0000 UTC]
aaa thank you!! ;v;;
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White-ferrets In reply to CascadingSerenity [2016-03-11 03:39:19 +0000 UTC]
And happy (very late) birthday! (owo) /)(\(owo)
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CascadingSerenity In reply to White-ferrets [2016-03-11 03:57:40 +0000 UTC]
oh! ahaha thank you! x'D
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DemonLillie In reply to SparzOfNight [2016-04-17 11:41:56 +0000 UTC]
A wish that needs to die a very painful death
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RubycloudKitty In reply to ??? [2016-02-22 00:14:15 +0000 UTC]
I kind of liked Millie in the graystripe manga but after that is just ugh
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nanoonri In reply to RubycloudKitty [2016-03-14 01:26:29 +0000 UTC]
Same here. Her personality seemed to really change away from the manga.
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kawaiipuppy44 In reply to ??? [2016-02-18 00:44:47 +0000 UTC]
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FireFoxpng In reply to ??? [2016-02-16 14:00:52 +0000 UTC]
I never rlly liked her much.
I think at first she seemed to a good cat but I honestly don't think she a good mother. I dislike how she treated Blossomfall and I hardly ever saw her even talk to Bumblestripe. I feel like she neglected two of her kits and I preferred Greystripe with Silverstream.
Also not changing her name. Now I know Daisy kept her name, but at least it's a natural name that fit in more, like Boulders from Shadowclan, whereas the name Millie, she could have at least changed it to something natural, it seems almost disrespectful to clan life.
Anyway amazing picture
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DragonSlayer832 In reply to ??? [2016-02-12 04:11:12 +0000 UTC]
I wish Millie could be killed by Tigerstar
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bearclaw63 In reply to DragonSlayer832 [2016-03-25 21:48:56 +0000 UTC]
Haha good one but I think we should give our spiky fur friend ,Thisleclaw that honor!
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JustAGurl4Life [2016-02-06 00:51:09 +0000 UTC]
CascadingSerenity, I know your trying to stay away from the "kawaii" style...but...maybe you could still do some like that..not saying your new style isn't bad...because I personally LOVE it...But just a suggestion. ------
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CascadingSerenity In reply to JustAGurl4Life [2016-02-06 01:01:17 +0000 UTC]
a lot of the chibis that i do are in a "kawaii" style:
but if you meant the cats with emo bangs + really bad anatomy, then nope sorry. i'm never going back to that nightmare LOL ;O;
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Meloney-Cat In reply to CascadingSerenity [2017-01-10 23:21:27 +0000 UTC]
what program to draw you use?
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