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The Great Exchange
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Published: 2017-10-11 22:17:17 +0000 UTC; Views: 62044; Favourites: 548; Downloads: 0
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Taking a break from the jokes to say something serious about my faith. Maybe it will encourage someone. Funny stuff next time.EDIT: If you want a print of this cartoon you can now get one through my website. I also plan to make prints available directly through DeviantArt if I can figure out how. Until then, here’s the link to my store: cedricstudio.com/product/print…
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Well you just go off what scientist say so aren't you doing the exact same thing?
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Every "scientific" proof of God has been debunked time and time again and the argument always falls back on fallacies. The big bang theory is flawed if you look at non peer reviewed proposal's
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Well then how the heck did we even get here......everything had to start from somewhere....there is no scientific evidence that is solid that determines how everything came to be and how complex everything is now. It is not physically possible for something as great as our universe to be created the way it was
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That's called a "god of the gaps" fallacy. "I can't explain it, therefore God" is not proof. & this comic?: TRANSLATION INTO LOGICAL LANGUAGE: PELASE SAVE ME FROM YOUR FIERY VENGEANCE, AND I WILL THANK YOU. PRAISE THE FIREFIGHTER WHO STARTED THE FIRE! I AM WASHED IN THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB TO BE SAVED FORM THE WRATH OF THE LAMB. This DD is sick, superstitious, irrational, and morally indefensible.
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Don't you get it this is our fault why the world is this way. God never intended us to befall to the devil, but we screwed up.
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Just because science hasn't figured out the how that doesn't mean that "god" made it. The complexity of the universe has been explained by science. The idea that the universe is great is subjective, if there was a god that cared about mankind he wouldn't make a universe that is so hostile
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He gave us the choice of free will. He really does care about us. It is the people on this world that are driven by demons that are so hostile and turning this world for the worst. It isn’t Gods fault. The everyday hardships are like tests. Yes I don’t like being tested everyday but God does it to bring us closer to him. Or at least in Christianity. I think other religions do the same. I also believe that there is a God because how can so many people believe in the same thing and it has lasted this long in time. One crazy person couldn’t of just woken up one day and said God is real and believe me. People back then needed the proof of God’s existence so how did religion spread so quickly. Minus the fact that people were killed if they believed in God. That is another point. Why would people sacrifice there life by believing in God?
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People where killed for a slew of things. Why would god create demon and hardships just to bring people cloder? That's a very evil and manipulative, why worship a entity that gives free will and then punish those who use free will?
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God didn’t create these kind of people. Like I said the devil has manipulated them. This all started because Eve listened to the devil and did what God told Adam and Eve not to do. That is the reason why today is the way it is. And after the crucifixion of Jesus things are supposed to go downhill from there because that is the last time people saw a unnatural thing happen. Now that there has been no proof for the last thousand years...we’ll more than that....people have been turning away/not believing in the first place because they...like you...don’t understand the logic in any of this. Which I’m not meaning that in a rude way. It’s just how society is. Even if you don’t believe the Bible states good life lessons and how to get through tough times/how to produce good on this evil world. Like I said again God isn’t trying to punish us, and never wanted this world to turn out this way. But because of our easily manipulated minds we turn away and seek our own path as greater than his path.
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There is no logic with the idea of God. If god can create anything why then would he create adam and Eve and the apple and the devil? If he didn't want them to eat the apple when make it in the first place, why create the devil to temp what he created to do the one thing he didn't want them to do. Why did he have to sacrifice himself to himself to forgive his creations for doing what they where created to do? Why not just forgive mankind instead of making doing all these pointless actions. If he didn't want people to use free will why give them Free Will? There is either no god or he is impotent
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He didn’t create the devil. Have you even read the beginning of the Bible? Maybe if you would read it you would understand. The devil was an angle of God that turned against him. God then banished him and that’s how the devil turned Eve against God. God was trying to create a paradise for his children.....and the one he had banished turned his own children against him
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He created everything right? He's omnipotent and omnipresent right? He created angels knowing one would turn against him and temp his creations he created an angel knowing he would become the devil. He created the devil.
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On two occasions the New Testament speaks of a time when angels turned on God and fell into wickedness:
God did not spare [the] angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them in chains of darkness to be held for judgment. (2 Pet. 2:4)
The angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day. (Jude 6)
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Yes, he created demons and the devil
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But sent them to hell
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He created the devil, gave him his own world, and let him do as he pleased
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There has to be a good an evil
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That's just a black and white fallacy. There doesn't have to be a good and evil. Good and evil are constructs of human morality and perspective
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Let's be honest here you don't have to take the first few chapters of Genesis literally personality I believe that God used the big bang to create our universe and had a hand in it. you can not use science to disprove this
Yes this is based on assumptions about our nown universe but it is logical sound.
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This is so beautiful 😊
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Scroll up and avoid the comment section, friend. The exchanges happening down here are much more likely to get you tilted, whichever side you're on. Too many people trying to say they're right about religion on a thread that will probably be forgotten.
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Christianity is the biggest joke there is
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Why do you say that?
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It makes up "sins" that can only be forgiven by the imaginary character in their book
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That is false, sins are bad things like cheating(unless you happen to think it is okay for one person to cheat on another) lying, etc, Jesus forgives us because before him if you did something bad, you had to sacrifice stuff, and such, but Jesus made it so that we don't have to do such things, the idea is that you lay down your guilt at all the bad things you did because you have already been forgiven, so you don't have to feel bad about it.
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Sins are completely defined within the context of the Church that is ran by humans, and since humans are fallible then so to are those sins. Probably why rape or child abuse was never mentioned in the 10 commandments. Nobody on this world needs forgiveness from a fictional character. It is far more practical to seek forgiveness from others that we have wronged in our lives, Jesus is simply a scapegoat to make bad people feel good about themselves.
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Well, that is one way of thinking of it, glad to know you speak for so many other people, but rape and child abuse are mentioned in the scriptures.
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They are, but telling someone that they have to pay the equivalent of 10 sheep for a woman they've raped is fucking atrocious and disgusting, and says a lot about a book many hold to be a moral standard
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Considering the fact the sheep is a person's life's work, they require alot of work and, ten sheep is probably more than the fine on rape today.
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And you're a fucking piece of shit for saying that and a perfect example of why Christianity is a fucking joke
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Oooh, feisty, listen, I am not going to ask you to be Christian, so I will ask you not try to convince me to be an atheist, you will learn in your own time or you won't that is your choice, but why on earth did you click on comment on this post if you are not Christian, or Adventist or Protestant or Jewish or anything like that, are you just being a troll?
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I'm being a troll? You justified rape you sick fucker. Take your damned Bible and shove it
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I did not just justive rape kid, I pointed out the reasons for things that happened ten thousand years ago compared to things today you twat! If your tiny feminist brain can't understand what I am saying that is YOUR Fault moron!
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You're fucking disgusting if you think the Bible's justification for a rapist essentially buying their victim for 10 sheep is just. It's absolutely disgusting and doesn't require a fucking agenda to know that it's flat out wrong in every sense. I strongly encourage you to quit reading that filthy book and actually read something that has substance
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Buying their victim? Well you moron, if you had eyes or could read, you would understand that compared to sitring in jail for a few months or paying a fine, paying ten sheep is actually similar because those people were shepherds and ten sheep was way more than what most people back then could buy or pay back then, and one sheep was equal to sitting in jail for a few months, these people spent months raising their sheep, and those sheep were their lively hood, a sheep could buy a family food for weeks! So oh-bright-one-with-a-vocalablary-equivalent-to-that-of-a-rock. I am not in fact defend or justifing rape, I am in fact justifying their currency system. So oh-blind-one, if you were even thinking you would know that. So I am sorry if you are a troll, because only trolls go to something that they don't like/disagree with, and try to make those people change their minds, because you opinion is so obviously what I should believe too, because you are obviously never wrong and never have been wrong, (NOTE THE SARCASM) So, no you self righteous mutter mumble I will not 'Shove it' you moron.
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No, you are still justifying rape because you're a deluded moron who thinks he's smarter than what he really is. And justifying the Bible while doing so won't make you any smarter for it either
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Okay genus, I guess sayng that something is equal to something else is justifying rape, I was wrong, (Note the sarcasm) Moron, did you even read what I said? No, because little twelve year old picks who worship money like you don't give a rip about anyone else and only push their own agenda, ignoring all logic and reason! 'Ooooh me monkey, me intelligent, because I ignore all reason' So list Asshole Almighty! Only smirky-mac-jerk-faces like you do that, you are being one huge hypocrite, you cherry pick everything I say, then twist my words around to mean the complete opposite! And I may be a moron, but listen Asshole Almighty, you are way dumber than you think, I mean seriously, do you even think before you type?
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No, you are seriously justifying rape by saying the worth of sheep in the old days of the testament was more than today's standards making it perfectly acceptable for a rapist to buy their victim
It's fucking disgusting
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Is it buying something to be punished, most people can't even buy one sheep back then you twerp. So a person losing ten sheep from his already really small flock could really hurt that persons life.
And how is saying a foie back then was more then a fine today justifing rape? Can you even read what you're saying? I mean, seriously, punishments on rape were heavy back then, and how is disgusting to discuss punishments back when people were smaller, poorer, and a lot more prone to diseases, plus, have you heard of Lot? He lived in city that raped men and women alike, (still happens today it is just that people seam to think that when a man is raped everthing is fine) And lot escaped, and the town was vaporized.
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Because you are saying that paying 10 sheep is a just punishment for the crime of rape. That is justifying rape
Do you really want to bring up Lot? Dude offered up his virgin daughters, to be ganged raped, instead of the angels and then has sex with said daughters after the city is destroyed. The Bible if fucking disgusting
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Considering that the daughters were the ones who started it by incapaciting Lot, thst were
the ones who had sex with lot while he didn't even know what was going on.........
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And what exactly did any of your drivel have anything to do with what I said?
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Well you blamed Lot for having sexual intercourse with his daughters.
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Wrong, I said Lot had sex with his daughters. A disgusting story either way
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Also, wars were started over rape and child abuse, but don't forget context, things were very different back then.
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