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ChikitaWolf — Stop WHORING female characters
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D.Gray-Man (c) Hoshino KatsuraLenalee Lee (c) Hoshino Katsura
Stamp by ~ChikitaWolf
Kinda goes along with my “How is the rape of a fifteen year old boy ‘kawaii’?” rant stamp.
Whenever I actually find a hetero pairing (which has become less and less common these days) in the DGM fandom… half the time it’s Lenalee being paired with multiple men in ONE FanFiction and being portrayed as a whore. Or a stripper.
And not for plot-development. Or theme. Or lesson. Or whatever.
Only for fan service.
A friend of mine ~SorasGirl88 made a piece of artwork a while back voicing her own irritation towards Lenalee being whored.
I agreed—of course. I just never realized just HOW MUCH Lenalee is portrayed as a whore in the FanFictions. And especially in the DGM fan art these days.
And once again, FF.net burned my eyes. But it wasn’t just FF.net. It was also here on dA.
Lenalee’s a girl. She’s a part of an anime fandom. It’s only natural for drawings of her doing fan service to pop up. I can understand some people like that stuff.
But to pair her up with multiple men at once? And to detail scenes of her being in bed with multiple men at once or multiple men in a day?
That’s just ridiculous.
And incredibly OOC. Then again, most of the ways people have recently been portraying her is OOC.
It bothers me, as I’m sure you’ve figured out by now. I understand people have their fetishes—but if you’re going to write a story with Lenalee like that, please mention it in your summary. Please. And admit it’s OOC.
AND IT IS OOC.
I won’t even get into her sister-complex, over-protective brother who wouldn’t hesitate in castrating the entire DGM cast of men if something like this was going on with Lenalee. Talk about him sicking his robots on people. Good Lord.
And it’s not just in the D.Gray-Man fandoms. I’ve noticed more and more female characters of books series, anime series, TV series—you name it—becoming whored.
I’m saying this is a fan of the things I enjoy reading. This isn’t a discussion of reality vs fiction.
This is a fan being disturbed by how people have been ruining characters as of late.
Where’s the pride for keeping characters IN-CHARACTER? If you want a bunch of characters being whored and f*cked, make your own characters, dang it. I’m sick and tired of seeing so much OOC crap.
That’s my opinion though.
On a more wide note—if you’re writing a FanFiction, please warn us beforehand that you’re going to whore a character for nothing more than fan service.
Especially Lenalee Lee.
Who could totally kick any DGM guy’s @$$ if she wanted to.
NOTE: If I see you bashing Lenalee mindlessly in the comments, I’ll hide your comment. Bashing Lenalee is NOT the purpose of this stamp. If you want to bash her, go on a bash Lenalee piece of artwork. Thank you for understanding
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Thank you. I will send you a valentine for this.
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to be honest even in the anime lenalee still acts like a whore.........
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NO. Go eat your dictonnary or something.
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D'you even know the definition of a whore, let alone what it means to act like one
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i do know i only say she is because i hate her thats all.......
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So because you hate a fictional character, you slander them with a derogatory term incorrectly? :'D
I get that some people don't like Lenalee, but to call her a "whore" is rather petty, imo. She's clearly not one, and it's incredibly demeaning towards other women seeing as how in today's age people dress a shit ton more scantily than Lenalee has ever been depicted.
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im not trying to start an argument but she does wear a mini skirt and wears a corset and booty shorts but my opinion is my opinion and your opinion is your opinion so lets just leave this conversation at that.....ok?
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You don't want to start an argument, but you comment on one of my stamps with what you said earlier with a statement that clearly goes against my own statement in my stamp? Don't get me wrong, I don't intend to attack or argue, but it's silly to think that I wouldn't respond with my own countering opinion aha. I'm being perfectly calm about this, so I apologize if it comes off that I'm flaming you.
Her miniskirt is mini because her Dark Boots form over the majority of her legs; it would be inefficient for battle if she wore clothes that could catch on her Dark Boots and hinder her aerodynamics in battle. The same can be said regarding her "booty shorts." Regardless of this though, she wears thigh high socks AND short shorts under her miniskirts, so I don't see the problem with how that could be even remotely "whorish." If anything, she's the least fanservice female character I've seen in any anime/manga I've seen/read.
Furthermore, corsets were worn during that time period in history. DGM is based in the late 19th century - how could she NOT be wearing a corset realistically when bras didn't even exist back then? If anything, the corset is more modest than a bra, so I don't see what the complaint is here. If you'd just defeated a Level Three and been engulfed in flames to the point that your clothes got burned off, I'd certainly prefer to be wearing a less revealing corset than a bra.
If you want to leave a discussion, the best way to do so is not to leave yet another statement, but to simply not respond or say you're not interested in continuing. By leaving a comeback or any such similar statement, you are openly inviting me to respond in-turn. Therefore, I will respond. That's the way these things go :'D
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i understand you, im calm too, and i dont want this to turn into an argument because i dont want to be on bad terms with anyone .....and i agree on some stuff you said about her and her clothes but i have to point out some stuff not saying your wrong or anything at all but if the skirt is for not to get in her way of battle than explain the dress O.O....and if the corset is supposed to be a type of bra apparently she aint scared or worried of showing it of to almost all the guys when they were at the ark....and you do have a point about the booty shorts so i got nothing to say about that.....but thats all i wanted to say so please dont take it the wrong way, it may sound and look like it but i really dont want to be on your bad side at all trust me.....i really want to be on your good side, i dont want to make you upset.....so can you please forgive me for being judgmental and saying something i should have just kept to myself in the first place.....please forgive me chikitawolf-san!!!!!
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No worries, I would never be on bad terms with someone just because of a slight difference in opinion xD Tbh, the only thing that surprised me in your comment was the "whore" bit LOL.
The dress, I would assume, was to give her extra cover when going out among the populace. It's another modesty thing, really. (plus it looks good on her!).
LOL, well, she can't exactly control when her clothes get burned off xD I think everyone was a little more worried about her wellbeing at that point than her modesty 8'D
Seriously, it's fine! Not everyone will have the same opinion. I just happen to be a person that likes to discuss and debate things, so I apologize if I came off as aggressive or something :'D
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thank you for forgiving me and its ok i forgive you too!!!
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The only female character of mine who I whore is an unattractive 40-something woman with muscles.
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Pardon me, but I feel I must play a bit of devil's advocate here.
Namely, addressing a few points, the primary one being the mention of stuff being only for fanservice. For something to truly only be for fanservice, it will have no other arching content. Are the fanfictions in question referred to here lacking in anything aside from sexual imagery of varying forms? If there is even an ounce of story, then the fanfiction is not smut for fanservice, but rather, a story with sexual elements to it that carries itself forward and advances plot.
Additionally, to add on to the prior fact, regardless of whether a character seems OOC or not, there is a reason we call these stories "fan fiction". Fictional creations by the fanbase that may or may not portray an alternate take on the story, characters, and universe as a whole. In fact, the ability to portray a potential alternate universe within a popular setting leads many to write these stories to begin with.
Alternate universes, where characters may or may not act as their character, exist in "fan fiction" because it's a way of providing an alternate interpretation of an existing setting. To provide an example, several Pokemon fanfiction stories that circle around the Anime canon, provide alternative takes on Ash Ketchum. Some make him very competent, others place a darker spin on his world. Still others focus more on the battles, while others make him even more of a dork. It's all up to personal spin on a setting that you enjoy.
So to cry a character as acting OOC in a fanfiction is in a sense, a bit illogical, because unless you're a canon purist, you'll let your imagination go free, and write what you feel is an interesting alternate take. If you're a canon purist, then chances are, you aren't writing fanfiction, or maybe lack creativity to do so, and thus I would advise against it.
If someone wants to make the show's resident village idiot character into an intelligent librarian character, that is their right in their "fan fiction" story. If someone wants to take a strong character and put them into a situation where they're weak instead, that is their right, as it is their "fan fiction" story. In this case here, if they want to whore out a character (which I disagree with on moral grounds; more on this in a moment) that is usually independent and free-willed, that is their right in their "fan fiction" story. Get my drift?
If anything, we shouldn't complain on the aspect of creative liberties that spawn into fictional takes on existing content, but rather, complain on the morality of the issue that is turning any character, male or female, into a sexual object. When the story no longer has a story attached to it, it becomes "smut" as opposed to a "lemon", and is done simply for the fanservice sake, then it is a question on morality grounds, and that is what we should complain about. Even this is permissible if their is significant story within the fanfiction to explain why a person, place, or thing is now being sexually objectified (which is usually not the case in stories for pure smut).
Remember, the act of turning a character into something else for a fanfiction story is not the problem (as seems to be implied here, correct me if I'm wrong), for it is just that; fan fiction. Fictitious stories by fans are made to provide alternative takes and twists on an existing canon they may or may not agree with. It is their creative right to explore these options. The problem should be the moral grounds on writing stories exclusively to turn a character, object, or location within the setting into a sexual object without story attached to it that explains or leads into these scenarios.
In short, if there is no story attached to the content you are taking offense to, then it is okay to take offense to it, for it is not "fan fiction", but rather straight smut that doesn't advance anything. If there is even an ounce of story, then you cannot assail upon it for being a fictitious alternative take on the canon from a single fan's point of view. It being fictitious means the persons, places, or things, may or may not be OOC as you put it. This should be assumed and known going into the stories in the first place. Again, if you're a canon purist, don't read these things, and definitely don't write them, as you'll simply plagiarize the original author's work.
If you guys want to poke holes, fire away!
~Lance Lopez
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FIRE THE CANNONS /SHOT
Trust me, I wouldn't be ranting if the fanfictions actually had plot, lmao. The fanfictions I spoke of were those that, as you say, "[had] no other arching content."
I understand what fanfiction is. However, a fanbase greatly appreciates that when they read a fanfiction about, let's say, Allen Walker from D.Gray-Man, they're gonna read a fanfiction about Allen Walker from D.Gray-Man. If Allen Walker does not act like Allen Walker in ANY way shape or form with any explained or understandable reason (I'm talking about absolute OOC - you can't recognize the character), why write a fanfiction about Allen Walker? You might as well write your own original story with your own character, because everyone who reads that fanfiction is going "who on earth is this character idon'teven." People love fanfiction because it's about characters they recognize from the original content portrayed alternatively. That is fanfiction.
Writing fanfiction is more than just writing from a different perspective, universe, plotlines, etc. It's about making those different perspectives, universes, and plotlines work WITH what's already there. If you change everything, it's no longer fanfiction; it's just a story with characters that are appearance rip offs of the original content, with no real connection to that original content. Note, I don't diss on stories that take a darker turn, and therefore the characters NATURALLY and REALISTICALLY do to. Stuff like that is legit, as it's an alternate universe that has affected the character /which you still recognize as that character/.
Furthermore, for many of us fanfiction writers, it's also a matter of respect to the actual owner of the original content to try and keep relatively in-character. A primary example, in relation to this stamp, is when someone twists an innocent character into nothing more than a sexual innuendo or fap material in a crappily written fanfiction with no real story whatsoever. If someone took MY original character and wrote a fanfiction like that about my character, I'd be pretty damn pissed :'D
There's a difference between claiming someone has "no right" versus critiquing someone's way of portrayal in writing. Critique involves a percentage of personal opinion (well, mostly personal opinion), and therefore it's only natural that someone would give their opinion about how someone wrote a character, whether they agree with the OOCness or not. It's not illogical to tell someone: "Ya know, I don't quite get how you portrayed him here or your reasons for it. I think you ought to explain the situation better for your readers so they understand why he acted that way."
Isn't the biggest reason people complain about plotless smut BECAUSE of the issues morally and in the portrayal of women (and sometimes men) as sexual objects and nothing more?
I'm gonna quote ya here cuz it's easier to respond:
"Remember, the act of turning a character into something else for a fanfiction story is not the problem (as seems to be implied here, correct me if I'm wrong)..."
"In short, if there is no story attached to the content you are taking offense to, then it is okay to take offense to it, for it is not "fan fiction", but rather straight smut that doesn't advance anything."
THIS BASICALLY SUMS UP THE ENTIRE STAMP JUST SO YA KNOW.
Lastly, in regards to your comments about "canon purists." I dunno whether you thought me one or not, but just in case, I can assure you I've been writing fanfiction for four years now (going on five). No canon purist here. c:
I'll end this response by saying it's 4:30 in the morning, so apologies for any errors, obvious misconceptions, etc. I'M GOING TO SLEEP NOW //flies away
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Omit the word stern please...
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Wow...
Nice
Clear and stern firm
Very nice rebuttal
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I support hetro and gay pairings, but there is a very few i accept 
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Though I don't know the DGM fandom, I agree with this; it goes on EVERYWHERE. I don't get what people's obsessions are with out of character 'shipping'. If the whole reason for your fanfic is to imagine two characters getting romantic, when it clearly makes no sense in the normal canon, keep it to your damn self. Nobody else cares about your poorly written pervert-fantasies. It especially annoys me when they couple straight characters with the same sex (or a gay character with the opposite sex... though I've personally never seen that). That's about as fanservice-y and disrespectful toward the original works as it can get.
I'm particularly adverse to this kind of junk, as it permeates my favorite fandom to the core. Azumanga Daioh is a series whose cast is entirely girls... all of which (except MAYBE one) are clearly straight. But nonetheless, you constantly find lesbian fantasy pics and fanfics for it EVERYWHERE, because they're all girls. The only thing worse is a lemon/harem fic using an OC created by the author. Just disgusting and intolerably disrespectful of the source material.
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Technically. I support pairings especially cross-pairings.
But sometimes - They take it too far...
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Speaking of kicking ass, even if she was paired simultaneously with guys, she would technically have to be pimping and dominant. But apparently, dominant females in ahem....yeah...doesn't happen much anymore.
Then again, when you go deep in fandom, you realize EVERY character is whored out someway or the other. Just not dogpiled into one huge fanfiction chapter.
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i like Lenalee so ya it's real just wrong for people the write about her doing that stuff.
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agreed i can never find anything good of lenalee i can't take it
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Honestly, I find nothing wrong with pairing characters with multiple characters. I mean even though I'm a huge LuigixRosalina fan, I do still like LuigixDaisy and definitely LuigixPeach. I also like MarioxPeach & MarioxPauline. I like to think of it as being open-minded and being open to other possibilities. Although I do understand where you're coming from.
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in the end any one can draw this character however they want. i agree i thinking whoring is horrible but if people find some type of joy in writing FF about whoreing then we can't really stop them. people shouldn't be obliged to give up what they love because of your love for this character.
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Did you read the description?
I said I understood people have their "things". I'd just prefer if they rated their fanfiction properly or actually warned people about it, and stop acting as if it's in-character writing, since it's not, lmao
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i know you didn't mean this but some of the comments were getting pretty ignorant. This was more directed at the commenters themselves
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Ah, okay. Yeah, I can see what ya mean~
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well thats to bad bronies will whore Fluttershy weather others like it or not
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........
You WHORE characters from MY LITTLE PONY?
Isn't that a little.. I guess everyone has their fetishes. oAo
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everyone is a pervert sometimes
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ya your right i agree its stupid although heh i think her and allen like each other but shes not a cheater shes not even dating anyone sheesh those fan fics are dumb
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Pisses me off whenever every female character is pictured as a slut or a cheater.
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thank goodness SOMEONE said this... thank you!
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I agree with this stamp.
Though I ship every Lenalee pairing(she's really pairable with a character like hers, like, every pair is logical when it's her in it).
And I admit liking threesomes, like KrowLenaEliade.
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I never heard of that pairing. Great idea. Lol!
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This can go for a lot of female characters.
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Sakura x Akatsuki
Sakura x Itachi x Sasuke x Naruto x Lee
Sakura x Neji x Sasuke
I hate those pairings.
So darn ridiculous and totally OOC and totally ILLOGICAL! Sakura is one of my respected characters, and she's been through so much and so are Hinata, Lenalee, Tenten, Haruko, Chrome. It pisses me off women are sometimes in manga just for fanservice and love interests.
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Any time there's a strong female character (meaning doesn't act like a priss), she will be whored.
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I totally agree! Seriously, the only person I can actually see Lena with is Lavi, and there are two reasons for that.
1) I am a Yullen fan. I saw your other stamp and I'm in agreement there as well. I'm all for the pairing but I don't see how someone can actually call Allen being Raped by Kanda 'cute'. Them being together? Absolutely adorable in my eyes. Rape? Not so much.
And 2) She is more of a sister to Allen and Kanda than anything else. To me Lenalee is a maternal character, and she's very kind-hearted. She wouldn't do something like that-EVER. I've pretty much stopped reading fanfics where Lenalee is a main character because of things like this.
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I agree. Since my sister LOVES Sakura Haruno, she likes looking at fanfics which have Sakura paired with multiple. Once, she even slept with Konan! WTH? Some fanfics make her a whore. Honestly. >.<
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I agree completely! I like Lenalee, and it irritates me that people do that to her. (and to Kagome, Tohru, Kikyo, Kagura Sohma, and any other girl in the whole wide anime world.)
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"Out Of Character"
AKA: They're not acting like themselves.
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I totally agree to this!
Let's whore the male characters instead! (no offense)
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