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Danerboots — Please learn what a cyber bully is
Published: 2011-11-10 21:40:56 +0000 UTC; Views: 10803; Favourites: 441; Downloads: 34
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"Cyberbullying" is when a child, preteen or teen is tormented, threatened, harassed, humiliated, embarrassed or otherwise targeted by another child, preteen or teen using the Internet, interactive and digital technologies or mobile phones. It has to have a minor on both sides, or at least have been instigated by a minor against another minor. Once adults become involved, it is plain and simple cyber-harassment or cyberstalking. Adult cyber-harassment or cyberstalking is NEVER called cyberbullying.Read more here- [link]
Cyber bullying is defined as bullying:
through email through instant messaging in a chat room on a website or gaming site through digital messages or images sent to a cellular phoneCyber bulling is not:
giving a helpful critique. disliking something you do like. politely telling you the rules of a website arguing and/or debatingI swear, people on this website throw the word cyber bully and troll around like its nothing.
You give a thoughtful crit that has some negative points in it, you are a cyber bully/troll.
You point out that a person is stealing artwork or breaking the rules, you are a cyber bully/troll.
You correct someone's grammar, you are a cyber bully/troll.
Some of these kids today are so freaking weak.
If you feel I should add more or take out something, drop me a line will ya love?
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ACTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES.
At 11 years old your cousin was plenty old enough to know that stealing is NOT OKAY. She should have learned that by the time she was FIVE. So not only did she make the conscious decision to illegally create an account here before she was 13 years old (COPPA), she then made the conscious decision to STEAL. Whatever backlash she received as a result of those conscious decisions — no matter how overboard some people inevitably went with it — was her lying in the bed she made for herself, plain and simple. Life tends to suck like that when you do dishonest irresponsible things.
"She cried because people were very rude to her... To hurt someones feelings..."
And?
She chose to steal. Boo-friggin'-hoo.
Why should HER feelings be cared about when she didn't care about the feelings of the artists she stole from? Are we supposed to feel sorry for her because she cried from strangers posting mean comments on the internet in response to her stealing from people?
If you steal art on deviantART, you WILL get attacked by other deviants. Some will be polite about it, and some will go WAY overboard with things like "go die", name calling, cursing, etc. If she didn't want her feelings hurt, she shouldn't have posted stolen art. Period.
DeviantART is not a "sharing what you like" site like tumblr. DeviantART is for posting artwork YOU created, and the Terms of Service she agreed to when she registered stated as such. "Only post work created by you" is not a difficult concept to grasp or impossible rule to follow.
The internet isn't a playground and people aren't always nice, especially when you do dumb things like lie about your age and steal from people. She was more than old enough to know better but she chose to do it anyway, so she had to deal with the consequences. Tough noogies.
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Even so, you shouldn't make death threats.
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And you shouldn't lie and steal.
"Go die" isn't a death threat any more than "go jump off a cliff" or "go take a long walk on a short pier", etc. Besides that, I didn't say anything about death threats. I said some deviants will inevitably go overboard with mean/rude/explicit comments. Actual death threats aren't supported or advocated for by anyone on deviantART, anyway. They're a reportable policy violation.
My point is the vast majority of deviants on this site — myself included — have no sympathy for kids who steal when they're damn well old enough to know it's wrong.
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So you're telling people to not hurt the feelings of art thieves who hurt the artists they steal from with no concern for their feelings? That's...special.
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Well you don't have to make death threats to them.
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No, you don't have to be nice to art thieves.
And also, in one part you're right: You shouldn't make death threats.
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I was never advocating that in the first place. But what I'm saying is its a little sill to be worried about your friends' feelings getting hurt without putting yourself in the shows of the artists who had their work stolen. Would you be so kind and understanding if someone stole something you worked hard on, thus giving it a lot of meaning for you?
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"B'AWWWW SOMEONE GAVE ME A CRITIQUE AND I WAS TOO MUCH OF A WHINNY BRAT TO TAKE IT AS A HELPFUL RESOURCE TO IMPROVE AND INSTEAD TAKE IT AS A INSULT EVEN THOUGH I REQUESTED CRITIQUES ON MY ART!!!!"
"B'AWWWW SOMEONE DISLIKES MY LITTLE PONY: FRIENDSHIP IS MAGIC!!! KILL THEM!!! THEY AREN'T ALLOWED TO LIVE ON THIS EARTH!!!!"
"B'AWWW SOMEONE TOLD ME THE RULES AND YET I DECIDED TO BE A WHINNY BITCH AND NOT TAKE THEM SERIOUSLY AND BREAK ALL OF DA'S RULES"
"B'AWWW SOMEONE WAS ARGUING WITH ME BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT MY OPINION WAS WRONG WHEN IM ALWAYS RIGHT AND THEY WERE MAKING GOOD POINTS BUT WAAA THEY OFFENDED ME UGH THE AGONY!"
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don't forget the one that usually happens in first person shooters:
B'AWWWWWWWW SOMEONE KILLED ME SO I'LL IP BAN THEM FOR NO REASON!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Don't forget "B'AWWW SOMEBODY SAID SOMETHING SLIGHTLY NEGATIVE ABOUT SOMETHING I DID BUT I ALWAYS DO THINGS PERFECT 'CUZ I'M GIFTED AND SPECIAL MY MOMMY AND DADDY AND TEACHERS HAVE ALWAYS SAID SO SO MY FEELINGS WOULDN'T BE HURT AND I WOULDN'T THINK BADLY ABOUT MYSELF! YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO CODDLE ME DAMMIT!"
A friend of mine who teaches actually told me her school district forbids her from grading papers with red ink because it's too harsh. What is this I can't even.
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What. And an entire district too? What the actual fuck.
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I wish that was made up, but sadly it isn't. She was serious.
The only times I was graded with colors OTHER than red it was just because the teacher liked that color better personally. I had one teacher that wouldn't allow us to use green pens (when I was in high school those jellyroll metallic pens were all the rage and we were allowed to use the dark colored ones for ease of reading on the poor teachers' eyes) because she preferred to grade with green marker, but all of that is sensible reasoning! All of my generation made it out of school alive despite the red ink of doom.
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Just.... just what? Red ink is now harsh? What is that school? I don't even right now...
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It wasn't a specific school that had that policy. It was an entire school district.
And apparently yes, at least to the idiots who subscribed to the whole "preserve self-esteem no matter WHAT" method of raising children. I can ramble, gripe, and bitch about this subject a LOT, so bear with me here for a minute novella.
That self-esteem preservation theory backfired to say the least. It's only turned out a generation of kids who (although not ALL of the kids, of course) have over-inflated egos that are as fragile as spun glass and warped senses of their own capabilities, skills, and the most basic of social interaction when that interaction is anything OTHER than abject praise. They SHATTER when criticized even a tiny bit.
Because these kids were never told they were wrong about something, needed to do something better, practice to gain skill, consider opinions/tastes/beliefs other than their own, strive for excellence because mediocrity isn't rewarded in the real world, or basically anything negative AT ALL, they're egotistical wimps. They really do believe they can do/say no wrong, they're awesomely perfect at everything they do (so there is NOTHING that needs practice, effort, or improvement), they're special and unique (which is why I call them the "special snowflake generation"), and anybody who tells them otherwise is a bully, a loser, mean, or jealous.
I have had 14-year-olds who draw like I did when I was NINE tell me I'm just jealous of them/their friend, so THAT'S why I said something needed work in their art. I've also had the same age bracket tell me I'm wrong about illustration technique, foundations in art education, and/or even the graphic art industry itself and how it works even though I'm a professional illustrator with a BFA in illustration and have been working on my skills for longer than they've been ALIVE.
I was raised with praise when I did well, correction when I screwed up, encouragement to do the work required to do better, freedom to (metaphorically) fall flat on my face if I failed at something, and a hug and kiss when I got myself back up and dusted off.
And I was graded with red ink. Somehow I managed to survive with my self-esteem in tact, as did the vast majority of Generation Y.
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A whole school district? That's absolutely ridiculous. Also, I agree with you completely. Kids already, and will continue getting one, have an ego and it'll only get worse unless we (or they, if we're just speaking about them as a whole) do something about it. It most likely will not happen, though. I'm actually in that age group, but I wouldn't tell people they're "jealous" of my art or judge them when I already know my art isn't the best in the whole entire flipping world. Sometimes I absolutely hate the generation I was born in. Most of the time I do, but that's just getting off-topic. Hell, even I still get graded in red ink! I don't sit and cry in the corner about it. I don't care about "perfection," if that's even a thing, at all. I'd rather make mistakes and learn from them rather than being all perfect like the little angel I'm supposed to be and never have to fix anything. As the saying goes, "there's always room for improvement."
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Unfortunately the fragile ego problem is something the kids themselves CAN'T fix — the adults who caused the problem in the first place are the only ones who can undo some of it. I mean good GOD, guys, your kid won't commit suicide if you tell them they did something wrong or they need to work on something to get better at it!
I hated most of my peers when I was your age, too. I thought they were immature, stupid because of that immaturity, and that a lot of them were horribly self righteous (I went to a Christian school for Pre-K through 12th grade and for the last few years I was there, the "message" in our chapel services started focusing more and more on judging and ostracizing other people and DEMONIZING gay people). I couldn't stand listening to a lot of them talk about other social groups of any kind.
As for the rest of what you said? Good. For. You. I mean it: good for you. You will be far more successful in life because you're open to learning and grounded enough to know that you NEED to learn things. Even when I was in college at our senior illustration thesis show, one of my profs told me that I got the maximum benefit out of my time there because I was open to advice, correction, and suggestion. I told him "Well YEAH, of course! That's the reason I came here in the first place, to learn from professionals that knew a hell of a lot more than I did." He replied "And that is exactly what I'm talking about. The kids who come in here thinking they already know everything there is to know and think their work doesn't need improvement and are only here to get the piece of paper and the entry on the education section of their resume? They just wasted four years and a lot of money."
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I wish it was something that was fixable for the kids, but it isn't! If I was able to, I would do everything in my power to fix it if I could. Maybe I can. You're right too - the kids won't get all depressed if you tell them they made a mistake or something. At least most of them wouldn't, anyways.
Oh my... I'm speechless! "Demonizing" gay people? That's just obsurd! All I can say is that I feel bad that you had to sit there and learn a message (multiple?) that you didn't agree with! I think people have every single right in the world to be whoever they want to be without getting judged. It's just... just not right.
Exactly. Learning something from the class(es) you're in is way better than trying to get "popular," get into a relationship, etc. I don't care about any of that. I'd rather pass my classes in school and get good grades. Besides, things like relationships can really throw you off from doing well in school. I know how that feels, but it would be off-topic (even though I've probably gone off-topic more than once). I also agree with your professor; what's the point of going to college when you don't care? If you've spent 5 years just not caring in school, how far is that going to get you in college? It costs money, and your time. You've gotta actually show up and do well. College is pretty damn important if you want to get an awesome job! I'm just speaking from what I know instead of experience, though.
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Exactly. If kids are raised with a healthy balance of praise for accomplishments, correction of mistakes, and encouragement to do better where they can, they're more than capable of handling a bombed test (it happens to everyone at one time or another... I graduated high school with a 4.0+ GPA and I still made a 63 on a chemistry test that I studied for quite a bit!) or being told there's room and capability for improvement.
Ugh, yeah... I was in Jr. High and high school from 1997-2003, and even back then other sexual orientations and gender identities weren't accepted as much as they are now. That gradual change has been a great thing to have witnessed.
In the first few years they didn't really say much of anything about gay people or other people, period. They just talked about the message of love and compassion that Christianity is SUPPOSED to be about. There was the basic understanding that gay people were bad, and before I was old enough to think for myself I'm ashamed to say I followed the sheltered flock. Once I got to be 16-17, though, that was when the "Religious Right" in politics reared its ugly head thanks to W., and then the message went downhill into ostracization, discrimination, and hate toward "other people". I started thinking "Wait a minute... This isn't right." and questioned what I was being spoonfed. I was one of the very few who did.
I'm still a Christian now, but I'm most definitely a PROGRESSIVE Christian. They've refocused on the love and compassion toward all people, they welcome everyone regardless of sexual orientation, gender identity, race, culture, whatever. We also don't believe the LGBT community is wrong/hellbound or to be avoided/shunned, and they're just another person like you or me and loved by God regardless. Most of us fight for their equality because they SHOULD have equality in all things.
But anyway... Yeah, that sucked.
"I'm just speaking from what I know instead of experience, though."
You're absolutely correct, though. Your education is fucking important. I used to have a stamp that said that in my profile, but I think the creator put it in storage. :\
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I have many times tried and succeeded in my attempts to stop Cyber Bullying. This site is for people to express themselves freely, not for trolls and cyber bullies to find prey.
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I got cyberbullied by one person calling me a "sad bastard" in the forums on this site! This person has serious issues!
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You're being sarcastic, right?
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I was called a cyber-bully for correcting someone's grammar. owo
I regret nothing.
The person who I corrected claimed to be twenty one, yet she typed lik tis and was pretending to be a female lioness 'in heat'.
Sick-o...
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No then you won't enjoy life and I'll go to jail ;D;
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I have been cyberbullied (by that, I mean dropped documents, blackmail, and hacked personal accounts), and I hate when people whine and cry about how someone called them stupid on the Internet. Thank you so much for making this.
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Someone called me a cyber-bully just for saying that 'not everyone likes MLP' o_o' I'm not a rabid pegasister myself. Hell, I don't even COUNT myself as a pegasister.
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Please do not misunderstand me and do not feel offended, but things like these support cyber bullying, because the more you talk about it, the more people will do it.
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I think you need to reread what this stamp is actually about.
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I do not have to read it because cyber bully can end if one wishes truly to end it. Because there is always a shut down button on the computer or there are always websites which can be avoided to overcome the cyber bullying and to tell you the truth, mostly all the cyber bullying starts when those who are bullied start the fight, you know this bullying thing is like racism, have you or any other person thought about talking with those who bully or just simply judge them for who, what they are or what they do?
Do you want my idea of the cyber bullying? People should stop showing their egos and should start becoming more compassionate and also should swallow their pride.
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I really think you should read what this stamp is really about my dear. You are way off point.
Oh I'll just tell you. This stamp is about people on deviantart who trivialize what cyber bullying is. For example. Someone giving a well thought out critique is not cyber-bullying. This is for people who throw the word around. K?
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I was in a roleplay and there was this one girl who had no idea what we were roleplaying about but joined in anyway.
I repeatedly told her "That's not what the rp is about"
Then she said I'm a big stupid cyberbully and she can rp as a pink rainbow winged kitty as much as she wants.
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Thank you! There was like an 11 year old on this site who made a journal saying she wanted to kill all lesbians and gays. When people told her it was offensive she blocked everyone hid the comments and claimed that she was "trying to help someone" she said she was cyber bullied and tried to report everyone that told her off.
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...please tell me somebody reported her for violating COPPA.
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Yup, she's off dA now.
Hopefully for good.
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I agree. Some people overreact to everything these days.
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Yeah, this kid BAWWlocked me when I told him his grammar was awful, and he kept calling me stupid and telling me "cussin makes u look stupd stop"
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Ha, I didnt know you make stamps!
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oh my god i seriously hate when a child is told by an older person something that isnt really anything to worry about, then the child starts acting up. "ugh this guy was being so mean!! he told me not to do this!!!! he technically said my art sucks!!!"
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There are people who would call trolling cyber bullying.
There's a difference between joking around and looking at a child's photo and calling them ugly.
People are WAY over-sensitive. I can tell you a bully from a sparring match on an online game for example: If there's more then one person repetitively killing someone and that person asks them to stop but they don't, that is bulling. If you're picking on someone out of "boredom", you need to have the same treatment done to you in your own home.
.....I bet you some people are going to call me a cyber bully for having an opinion on this when it's not even hurting anyone!
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Some people are sooo crazy!
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