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Description DBZ and all its characters belong to Toei Animation, Funimation, and Akira Toriyama (Who is god of this world).

I don't have a huge problem when shows want to put in their writer's view of the world or do any of that other stuff, but don't interrupt the action for it. DBZ touched on Vegeta and Piccalo's pasts once or twice when their was a significant break in the action, that's it.

LEARN FROM THEM, NARUTO, BLEACH, ALL THE YU-GI-OH SERIES, INUYASHA, AND PROBABLY EVERY OTHER ANIME EVER!
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Comments: 332

Zelgeist92 In reply to ??? [2011-01-10 16:22:45 +0000 UTC]

Dragon Ball is great show in terms of action. Maybe the best. But, if It comes to plot and drama, it's far below averege. Toriyama (and his fans) wanted for DB to be in that way, so it is like this. And that's okay. It's still one of the bests anime I ever watched (and manga I ever read).

Lack od drama and plot is, in my modest opinion, just a disadvantage. I do not think that other animes should copy that trait.
I don't think that "philosophies" and "other bullshits" are no needed. Just because people don't want to think and do not understand what mangaka is trying to tell doesn't make motives in other series a bullshit. Using "philosophy" word when refering to anime and manga is just mistake. Just because it requies some thinking, it doesn't mean that this is philosophy.

And, one last think. No anime and manga is perfect. Dragon Ball too (more noticeably after Freeza saga).
Sorry for my English.

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xxiceheartxx13 In reply to ??? [2011-01-06 17:04:48 +0000 UTC]

so true

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Tsunami2208 In reply to ??? [2011-01-01 20:40:21 +0000 UTC]

awsome!!!!

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HEN-TAIRON In reply to ??? [2010-12-22 11:16:22 +0000 UTC]

Damn Straight DBZ rulez

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Razmere In reply to ??? [2010-12-19 07:25:04 +0000 UTC]

And FIGHT AND FIGHT AND FIGHT AND FIGHT AND FIGHT AND FIGHT AND FIGHT AND FIGHT! Along with having all that pesky character development happening OFF SCREEN!

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daveshan In reply to Razmere [2010-12-19 23:28:01 +0000 UTC]

Still better than interrupting an end-arc battle to discuss philosophy.

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Razmere In reply to daveshan [2010-12-20 00:27:41 +0000 UTC]

Not much.

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Easterhands In reply to ??? [2010-12-12 06:42:16 +0000 UTC]

Thank you

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NovaSayajinGoku In reply to ??? [2010-12-12 04:47:55 +0000 UTC]

THIS IS FROM MY SOUL TALKING

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SylentEcho88 In reply to ??? [2010-12-11 07:01:30 +0000 UTC]

Damn right! DBZ is the best show ever made. Period.

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bladevstwilight In reply to SylentEcho88 [2011-02-05 06:27:54 +0000 UTC]

Do you even know of good anime thats fighting with little back story?! Dbzs bullshit to the fucking max its the horror of the anime genre as its spanned countless other crap just as bad.

heres a very good anime with little backstory or drama Guuren Lagann is in the last two or three eps and ended of the secound movie would destroy Dbz as in Gurren Lagann there was planets thrown at a group that lived another was smashing two galaxies together for a attack proof first one to show then literally by the force of two colliding attacks suck the universe up[albeit a pocket dimension's universe but still] [link]

The two galaxy's smashed together into a ball for a attack [link]

That Anime Gurren Lagann trumps dbz big fucking time with power and action,I can list other anime better then that dbz filth not necessarily in power but how action is really done

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SylentEcho88 In reply to bladevstwilight [2011-02-07 18:32:04 +0000 UTC]

Relax. DBZ was made in the 80's and influenced many writers to make manga. If it weren't for DBZ we wouldn't have so many other great manga today. Also DBZ put Anime on the map. It's because of DBZ that Anime got famous in the rest of the world in the first place.

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MagicalKeyPizzaDan In reply to SylentEcho88 [2013-06-29 13:14:57 +0000 UTC]

yeah i agree DBZ was one anime influenced people makes other cool anime like one piece

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bladevstwilight In reply to SylentEcho88 [2011-02-07 19:02:26 +0000 UTC]

Sorry I get alittle carried away with rants and there was a mess up in links on it so to correct the first link messup [link]

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DonNado In reply to ??? [2010-12-06 06:37:33 +0000 UTC]

Agreed to the fullest, but of course with this amount of awesomeness, you will get your hating comments(olympas) but they all know DBZ owns everything that follows and it will always be that way.

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bladevstwilight In reply to DonNado [2011-02-05 06:29:30 +0000 UTC]

Do you even know of good anime thats fighting with little back story?! Dbzs bullshit to the fucking max its the horror of the anime genre as its spawned countless other crap just as bad.

heres a very good anime with little backstory or drama Guuren Lagann is in the last two or three eps and end of the second movie would destroy Dbz as in Gurren Lagann there was planets thrown at a group that lived another was smashing two galaxies together for a attack proof first one to show them literally by the force of two colliding attacks suck the universe up[albeit a pocket dimension's universe but still] [link]

The two galaxy's smashed together into a ball for a attack [link]

That Anime Gurren Lagann trumps dbz big fucking time with power and action,I can list other anime better then that dbz filth not necessarily in power but how action is really done

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daveshan In reply to DonNado [2010-12-07 05:49:20 +0000 UTC]

I never let those comments get to me. Thanks anyway.

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bladevstwilight In reply to daveshan [2011-02-05 06:30:11 +0000 UTC]

Do you even know of good anime thats fighting with little back story?! Dbzs bullshit to the fucking max its the horror of the anime genre as its spawned countless other crap just as bad.

heres a very good anime with little backstory or drama Guuren Lagann is in the last two or three eps and end of the second movie would destroy Dbz as in Gurren Lagann there was planets thrown at a group that lived another was smashing two galaxies together for a attack proof first one to show them literally by the force of two colliding attacks suck the universe up[albeit a pocket dimension's universe but still] [link]

The two galaxy's smashed together into a ball for a attack [link]

That Anime Gurren Lagann trumps dbz big fucking time with power and action,I can list other anime better then that dbz filth not necessarily in power but how action is really done

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POOHEAD189 In reply to ??? [2010-11-22 07:34:13 +0000 UTC]

HELL YEAH

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olympas In reply to ??? [2010-11-18 00:47:36 +0000 UTC]

gay

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narutogoku102 In reply to ??? [2010-11-16 02:07:19 +0000 UTC]

THATS RIGHT!!

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eminemer In reply to ??? [2010-11-07 04:36:02 +0000 UTC]

very good point...

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Herokiller12344 In reply to ??? [2010-11-07 01:11:49 +0000 UTC]

So true. I love this show
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Part Geek, Part Furry, Part genius = All the way Awesome.

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Kadeys117 In reply to ??? [2010-11-06 19:10:16 +0000 UTC]

well said

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GordoZONE [2010-11-02 03:02:06 +0000 UTC]

im super indeed with you

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klagana1 In reply to ??? [2010-11-02 00:33:09 +0000 UTC]

hell to the yeah! i grew up on this show!!

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emoth888 In reply to ??? [2010-11-01 14:33:40 +0000 UTC]

Don't forget the stedoids!

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dragonbeast99 [2010-10-25 20:34:34 +0000 UTC]

Wow, every single anime series ever made you just bashed. I think you need to see something [link]

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JimDig97 In reply to ??? [2010-10-15 19:20:28 +0000 UTC]

And this is why I'm still a dragon ball fan to this very day

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thatascendedsaiyan [2010-10-08 07:49:26 +0000 UTC]

This poster speaks the truth!

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BobsCookie In reply to ??? [2010-09-28 22:23:50 +0000 UTC]

Well, Vegeta had quite the tormented past, and Bulma and Yamcha had a love HEXAGON going on, but this is still awesome. ^U^

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daveshan In reply to BobsCookie [2010-09-29 02:37:29 +0000 UTC]

Vegetta did, but how much was it really talked about.

Also, Yamcha's angst over Vegetta x Bulma is confined to about two minutes in one episode.

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BobsCookie In reply to daveshan [2010-09-29 02:54:46 +0000 UTC]

Vegeta's past was brought up several times. Especially during the Buu saga when Babidi took control over him and then he finally admitted that Goku was better..

As for Yamcha and Bulma, I wasn't talking about just the triangle involving Vegeta, I meant over all. Bulma was always complaining over Yamcha not being faithful, dating other girls, flirting with Maron; and especially back in DB when they were both unfaithful to eachother.

But mainly, yes, DBZ does focus on the fighting and action. But it DOES have it's mild drama.

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Otakui In reply to ??? [2010-09-23 22:53:50 +0000 UTC]

um...
dbz DOES have the following
1. love triangles (Yamcha, Bulma, Vegeta)
2. Philosophy (read it closer than you have, Akria Toriyama majored in it and uses it often in the story)
3. dragon ball was full of teen drama
4. the early villains and some of the newer ones had a deep tormented past that was analysed

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daveshan In reply to Otakui [2010-09-29 02:43:38 +0000 UTC]

1. Yamcha's angst over it is confined to about two minutes in one episode. After that, nothing is said by him about the matter.

That's not making a love triangle, that was addressing character continuity.


2. The biggest talks they have is people giving Goku one or two lines that he has to kill and not spare people. To which Goku responds with one or two lines.

These instances are also few and far between.


3. Where was there teen drama (and don't say that Saiya-man BS. That has less to do with DB that GT).


4. The early villains didn't show tormented pasts. They explained in back story. No, I'm not splitting hairs. It was just an explanation of where they came from:
Raditz
The Androids
Cell
Buu

All of those had backstories that just explained their origins.

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xXChihroXx [2010-09-11 21:34:57 +0000 UTC]

I Totally Agree With This!!

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spiralmaestro In reply to ??? [2010-08-28 03:05:55 +0000 UTC]

This is what DBZ is all about! thank you for pointing this out with that quote!

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bladevstwilight In reply to spiralmaestro [2011-02-05 06:32:29 +0000 UTC]

Do you even know of good anime thats fighting with little back story?! Dbzs bullshit to the fucking max its the horror of the anime genre as its spawned countless other crap just as bad.

heres a very good anime with little backstory or drama Guuren Lagann is in the last two or three eps and end of the second movie would destroy Dbz as in Gurren Lagann there was planets thrown at a group that lived another was smashing two galaxies together for a attack proof first one to show them literally by the force of two colliding attacks suck the universe up[albeit a pocket dimension's universe but still] [link]

The two galaxy's smashed together into a ball for a attack [link]

That Anime Gurren Lagann trumps dbz big fucking time with power and action,I can list other anime better then that dbz filth not necessarily in power but how action is really done

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spiralmaestro In reply to bladevstwilight [2011-02-05 06:47:56 +0000 UTC]

I've watched gurren lagann and loved it! I agree with you on gurren lagann, Not even DBZ could ever pull off anything Gurren lagann ever did!

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bladevstwilight In reply to spiralmaestro [2011-02-05 07:15:29 +0000 UTC]

Sorry if I came off being rude I tend to end up coming to dbz pics from some sites I go to and I never know tell I hit the link. I've also dealt with in the past alot of times on sites fanboys and fangirls of such and such anime without them being reasonable,I will admit I'm a big fan of Gurren Lagann. But a big problem with dbz to little REAL fighting,still has unreleasable large fan base along with franchise merchandise[milking the cash cow till its dry] and it along with Bleach has ended up making anime labeled by alot of closeminded people as being'' mindless violence,without morals plot or anything'' views. I'm a anime fan and of the DBZ anime I only like the dbz movies and the chunk of the anime future trunks is in. I especially like the dbz movie history of trunks.

But thats just talking of the true series but the abridged series I'm addicted to.

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spiralmaestro In reply to bladevstwilight [2011-02-05 08:51:49 +0000 UTC]

I'm a big DBZ fan! and i agree with you on bleach and dragonball z,I grew up watching DBZ and loved ever moment of it, to the toonami promos and movies of DBZ!

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bladevstwilight In reply to spiralmaestro [2011-02-05 12:04:38 +0000 UTC]

I'm 17[will be 18 in August] and my only real moments of liking it was Future Trunks, SS2 teen Gohan and Majin Vegeta in the series as I hated the rest of anime series.[Note I exclude movies in series talk as they normally aren't directly connected to the series there tied to] Believe me I find it ironic that I prefer dbz over dbz kai. When I DON'T like dbz other then the few things as stated before. I guess it has to do with some voice actors[especially that damn freiza woman voice hate it] and even if the series is staying canon scripted I can't help but hate the new ''I am speech'' It just doesn't sound right for lack of better term,for a western viewing group to hear a name[like how I've read] with ''son'' *insert name here* before the normal name.

What I've read on the Japanese and Chinese culture is they tend to say ''son''then the normal name as its used ether as respect,meaning there son or just has a honorable thing. I would go into detail just to lazy to make a giant wall text and/or run out of characters if DA has a character limit per post.

Anyway point is new ''I AM'' speech sucks from factor A)western viewers aren't used to the ''son''way of saying a name,Factor B)it lacked a good delivering the right feel for a revenge/honoring race/good guy/speech to a destroyer of races and planets.

Another thing my theory on dub voice actors putting less and less effort into putting emotion and really getting into the role,in other words doing there very best as if it was a movie effort. You hardly hear dub VA'S putting emotion into there acting anymore. as if there to lazy to even see the point in a acting carrier. Seeing as VA'S tend to get better acting jobs if they did there best .


I'm a pure anime watcher,even though I will by the manga to support the maker. I never read the things just laying around unopened in a box somewhere.Its do to the fact I see no piont in watching something if you know really soon it would be turned into a watchable form,books thats a different story as its true reading material,Comic books again a diffent story as they aren't that likely to turn into a ep any time soon if ever.

Anyway Mangas normally=anime within afew years or so. Basically I got a mini collection of misalliances manga series not really that many of any series just some of this and that.

also does of old Saturday promo [link] you won't believe this but people are bashing the now way dead programing time block that was Toonami on alot of old promo's on youtube


I used to watch Toonami myself till it turned to nothing and shortly after died,my fav thing of Toonami was a promo themed for each day of the week,or do you remember those?! I loved the Monday promo's as it reflected even most adults views on Mondays, the promo's on holidays was among the top 10 promo's on my list heres afew I liked [link]
That promo I kinda need to take that tip

I liked the hole promo's based on something that was like rerun eps promes and almost if not all the promo's was worth watching for a far chunk of them anyway. My all time favs are the speechs on morals on terms of the most seen promo's throughtout the weekdays. Its kinda funny on afew different promo's I remembered that there was slightly different, but the speech or something on the promo was to get your attention and stress the importance of doing your homework and other school projects before watching Toonami or other thing that might make you forget to.

The makers loved breaking the fourth wall on important topics in promo's. There ones talking about weapons,drugs and other things the weapon one was so ironic as Toonami had atleast some weapon in one ep they air when the promo came on for sure.

I hear rumors and such it was CN's new owner thinking kids would want live action,which I have a 0.o every time I just look on the net for there scheduled programs its barely any animation they need to change the name to Live action network

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spiralmaestro In reply to bladevstwilight [2011-02-05 14:03:59 +0000 UTC]

I loved the ally to good goku speech! I too am a fan of toonami! my favorite promo is dreams![link] I agree with you on the new CN! it's lame now! I loved toonami! especially, the voice over of peter cullen and steve blum! I too am also an anime watcher fan! i also read some manga on occasions.

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MagicalKeyPizzaDan In reply to spiralmaestro [2013-06-29 13:17:43 +0000 UTC]

i am same as you i loves dragon ball z too

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spiralmaestro In reply to MagicalKeyPizzaDan [2013-06-29 15:27:47 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for responding back!

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MagicalKeyPizzaDan In reply to spiralmaestro [2013-06-29 16:04:40 +0000 UTC]

your welcome awesome person

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spiralmaestro In reply to MagicalKeyPizzaDan [2013-06-29 16:13:18 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! I also draw art too! If you're interested you can see my gallery when you get the chance, if you don't mind that?

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MagicalKeyPizzaDan In reply to spiralmaestro [2013-06-29 16:19:38 +0000 UTC]

and your arts is awesome

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spiralmaestro In reply to MagicalKeyPizzaDan [2013-06-29 16:22:24 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!

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MagicalKeyPizzaDan In reply to spiralmaestro [2013-06-29 16:24:08 +0000 UTC]

your welcome awesome friend

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