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Published: 2015-07-14 17:34:38 +0000 UTC; Views: 3904; Favourites: 86; Downloads: 0
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Built by Czechoslovakia before the war and designated LT vz 38, they were pressed into German service as the panzerkampfwagen 38(t) and many were later modified into the jagdpanzer 38(t) turret-less tank destroyer. This working 38(t) participated in TankFest 2015 at Bovington, UK.Bovington, UK
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Stunning photo of this classic tank, sweden also had some of them
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It has always been a mystery why the Czechs, who actually outnumbered Germany in many arms of service, didn't fight. This was just one example of their excellent weapons.
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Maybe because of the Munich Agreement also called by czech people as "Agreement about us without us", oh my brother?
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Quite possibly. Those were bad days.
But that doesn't change the fact that the Czech arms industry was top notch.
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When Germany was carved up, some German speaking citizens were left in provinces that were now independent countries. Hitler used this as an excuse to take back land that were ex-German Empire territories. Saying that their citizens were being prosecuted (kind of like the way Russia has been acting since 2008) so they marched in to places like Austria and Czechoslovakia and other states without much opposition and as fast as possible, unannounced. The Blitzkreig. Alot of German equipment was Czech or based on Czech designs. Hell, they even took the French Sonua S35 tank into Nazi service for a few years. It was the first tank to have a fully cast hull and turret, where as most tanks were still held together using rivets.
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As far as i know, there were no "ex-German Empire territories" within Czechoslovakia besides few square kilometers of Czech-majority Hlučínsko.
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Ok correction, the core of the Central Powers of the Quadruple Alliance at the time, being the German Empire and the Astro-Hungarian Empire. Both of which shared (and still share) a similar language. Hitler claimed the Sudatenland that was a predominantly ethnic German populous. The Munich Pact or Munich Agreement allowed Germany to annex the Sudatenland with a promise for no more territorial demands. Which the Czechs or Slovaks were not invited to the conference. At this point troops and the infamous SS were placed into the Sudatenland to apply pressure on the rest of Czechoslovakia to hand land over to both Italy and Germany. The SS (that were the Brown Shirts in previous life) were there to control and dominate as well as obtain anyone and anything that will aid the nazi cause, in this case this little number which was drafted in. The 2 designs taken were the Panzerkampfwagen 35(t) and the LT-38 Medium Tank. The 35(t) was drafted with added radio sets, the LT-38 was rearmed with a Skoda A7 37mm main gun.
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Afaik Czechoslovakia handed land to 3rd reich Germany and Hungary, not to Italy (which it didnt border).
Also dont forget, that A-H was monarchy and the Czech Lands (or Lands of Crown of Saint Wenceslaus) were in personal union with Austria through the person of King, not integral part of Austria. When Habsburks (were) resigned the bond between those lands disapeared. As Czechs say, "We voted the Habsburks to the throne so we can vote them out". So much for "carving out Germany/Austria" etc.. Those borders were there since long before there was Austria-Hungary.
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No, Italy was at the Munich Pact conference, Italy didnt get any land but made sure Germany did whilst Italy aimed for Somalia and Ethiopia. Monarchy? It was not by any definition of the word a monarchy, Adolf pushed and bullied his way to pole position. Even if people saw him like that, he didn't believe in a monarchy after WW1. He wanted a republic and he got it. Hitler referred to Austria as the Motherland and Germany as fatherland. The belief that both countries were connected by ancestry. There were still German speaking people within Czechoslovakia, ok carving out land may have been inappropriate term but at the end of the day, the Nazis still took all of Czechoslovakia after agreeing to stop the land grab campaign.
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A-H = Austria-Hungary and that was surely monarchy.
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A-H = Austria-Hungary? That means nothing really unless you inserted 'empire' but you missed a glaringly huge opportunity here. Franz Ferdinand? The Prince of Austria-Hungary? The Assassination that got the ball rolling in Sarajevo? Come on I made it easy.
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Honestly, I am not sure what are you talking about and i am possitive you dont understand me.
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Trolling sir, I knew exactly what you were talking about and I Know what happened. Yet I left it wide open for you to try and prove your point but missed it by a mile. The 1 thing you had to say to blow me out the water and you say 'A-H = Austria-Hungary". Prince Franz Ferdinand was the only thing you had to say, his assassination was a precursor to WW1. The war that helped shape Hitler, his world view and his policies. He annexed the northern and western border regions under the claim that the German-speaking regions were suffering privation (or lacking essentials like food and clean water). He took them, that is where the Munich Pact took place. Under the radar Hitler assembled an army to push further into Czechoslovakia and take the rest of the country. He did so without opposition, this is what we were talking about. I said that there were supporters of the Nazis and they were further infiltrated by using the SS (formerly brown shirts). Like the way unmarked Russian troops infiltrated the Ukraine late last year. The SS were very capable of bully tactics and quelling opposition parties to prop-up the Nazi propaganda machine. I thought I was pretty clear but then you jumped the gun.
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Indeed. It seems they had genuine support in Austria, but presumably rather less in Czechoslovakia. Of course, this is all history now and I just raised a "what if" questions. Perhaps those are not the best questions!
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Well the brown shirt tactics extended into these pockets of the old German Empire. If they were against the party, they were coerced into supporting it. This helped pave the way for unopposed invasions. But if these forces opposed the invasion and fought, I dont think the Germans would come off lightly if a complete defeat. Same with Poland, they were meant to have the best equipment at the time. The only reason they were caught off guard were tanks. The light Panzer Is and IIs were just too fast and in too many numbers to repel. In France the Panzers had to stop because the infantry were lagging behind, this demonstrated the need for mechanised infantry to keep up with the armour they were meant to support. I think it was Heinz Gudarian who was in command at the time, proved this point to Hitler and the world at large.
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Yes, I recall in Austria how the Catholic youth were beaten up by Nazis. I suppose the Nazis were highly organised while the others were not.
Yes, the Germans certainly used tanks in an original way.
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A mainstay of Field Marshal Rommel's 7th Panzer Division I do believe. Although those rivets were bloody lethal to the crew.
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