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kylander108 [2022-03-25 06:18:56 +0000 UTC]
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EltonStuffProdutions [2020-02-15 08:07:25 +0000 UTC]
Haunted by statues, step one of going completely insane
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fotland42 [2020-02-15 02:46:22 +0000 UTC]
You let a lot of things be done to them, starting before you were any sort of princess at all in Chrysalis's case.
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VectorVito [2020-02-11 16:52:16 +0000 UTC]
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ARCGaming91 [2020-02-11 14:03:02 +0000 UTC]
I really like where this is going.
Please take your time with this.
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tigreanpony [2020-02-11 12:27:38 +0000 UTC]
Ok this seems interesting, I will keep an eye out for more of this.
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TheKman100 [2020-02-11 04:41:56 +0000 UTC]
Look at them, Twilight! They can't move if you keep looking at them!
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DrX-Raven [2020-02-11 02:53:55 +0000 UTC]
.... THAT'S what she was trying to do?! Redeem them?!
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jimmyhook19202122 [2020-02-11 02:11:22 +0000 UTC]
I'm going to guess Cozy Glow is going to show up and make a Nightmare Fuel-ish face to freak the crap out of Twilight Sparkle.
Cozy Glow..... ;-; WHAT WAS HASBRO EVEN THINKING! ;-;
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Joshuawilfred In reply to jimmyhook19202122 [2022-08-23 01:31:31 +0000 UTC]
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godzillavkk In reply to jimmyhook19202122 [2021-03-21 01:20:27 +0000 UTC]
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The-Duke-Abides [2020-02-11 01:52:22 +0000 UTC]
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AlphamonOuryuuken In reply to DrChrisman [2020-02-11 13:28:49 +0000 UTC]
In her defense, none of them made any attempts to reform or become better people, they were dead set on staying evil.
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DrChrisman In reply to AlphamonOuryuuken [2020-02-11 16:07:24 +0000 UTC]
she never offered like she did with Starlight or Sunset
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AlphamonOuryuuken In reply to DrChrisman [2020-02-11 23:04:03 +0000 UTC]
Tirek made it clear that he regretted nothing even after a thousand years in Tartarus.
Chrysalis was offered redemption and she refused.
Cozy Glow was taken in and taught at Twilight's school and see betrayed everyone just for more control.
They had their chances and they chose to remain evil, they deserved what they got.
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DrChrisman In reply to AlphamonOuryuuken [2020-02-11 23:20:28 +0000 UTC]
The copypasta says it better then I can
Nobody wants bad redemption.
People want well developed redemption.
Bad people turning good is one of the best motives we can find in books, movies and comics today.
Nobody wants a half-****** reformation a la Glimmer, even if she deserved it. People were afraid they'll get another one with Chrysalis (almost happened). We've got a ***** reformation of Garble and nobody asked for it. We've got a ***** reformation of Ahuizotl, and he is the last villain that needed redemption.
Cozy, Tirek and Chrysalis were characters with the most development in the whole S9. You could see actual effort in writing them. Frenemies was subtle enough to make kids think "woah, why do they work together?", where the parents saw the moments of developing friendship between the trio. Chrysalis giving a hoof to Cozy or Tirek returning Chrysalis' energy were impossible when we met the villains for the first time.
The reason why they failed when they attacked for the first time was not understanding the meaning of friendship. They worked together and developed one. The elements blasted them with rainbow lazors and stripped from the undeserved powers, they didn't turn them into a stone statue. It was ******* Celestia, Luna and Discord, disposing tools that are not needed anymore.
That's why people are pissed. An unnecessary, ******* twist with no real logic behind it.
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AlphamonOuryuuken In reply to DrChrisman [2020-02-12 12:30:24 +0000 UTC]
Glimmer's redemption wasn't perfect, but it was far from half-assed.
And as for the villain Trio, turning them to stone was necessary since by then they'd when they made it clear that they'd never stop trying to dominate Equestria. And considering the fact that they came dangerously close to killing Spike for no reason other than to threaten the heroes, It's pretty clear that they were beyond redemption and too dangerous to be left running around even without their powers.
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DrChrisman In reply to AlphamonOuryuuken [2020-02-12 16:36:04 +0000 UTC]
Add Starlight almost killed Twilight
Also They have displayed more depth than just being evil for literally no reason, so clearly they weren't intended to just be villains you defeat and toss aside
There was alot of buildup and depth behind them
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AlphamonOuryuuken In reply to DrChrisman [2020-02-13 22:20:13 +0000 UTC]
Starlight at least showed legitimate guilt for her actions and willingly surrendered. The evil trio rejected the very concept of changing their ways.
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DrChrisman In reply to AlphamonOuryuuken [2020-02-14 01:04:32 +0000 UTC]
Your arguing from the point of what happen
I am arguing from the point of that what happen was bad writing
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AlphamonOuryuuken In reply to DrChrisman [2020-02-14 03:54:48 +0000 UTC]
If you're going to criticize a character for their decisions, criticize them as characters instead of taking the easy way out and simply blaming the writers.
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DrChrisman In reply to AlphamonOuryuuken [2020-02-14 13:49:32 +0000 UTC]
I just said that I was arguing from the point of that what happen was bad writing
The fact that it was Discord was bad writing
Plus why even have the episodes of frenemies and set it up for reform if your not going to do it?
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AlphamonOuryuuken In reply to DrChrisman [2020-02-14 15:55:42 +0000 UTC]
I don't think that episode was that to reform them, I think it was meant to show how dangerous they could be when they worked together, as well as foreshadow their inevitable betrayal of their boss.
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DrChrisman In reply to AlphamonOuryuuken [2020-02-14 19:31:35 +0000 UTC]
They why have that warm fuzzy moment?
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AlphamonOuryuuken In reply to DrChrisman [2020-02-14 22:35:57 +0000 UTC]
To show that despite their camaraderie, they're still evil.
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DrChrisman In reply to AlphamonOuryuuken [2020-02-15 04:16:28 +0000 UTC]
but then why have an episode around that over just one scene?
and how did discord not see it come with both Tirek record and a crystal ball?
bad writing
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AlphamonOuryuuken In reply to DrChrisman [2020-02-15 05:56:48 +0000 UTC]
It wasn't bad writing, the episode was dedicated to showing how confident they could be when they actually worked together, and just how dangerous it was that their camaraderie allowed them to scheme against their boss be right under his nose.
Discord isn't onipotent, he's been outsmarted by four, mainly by the heroes. The villains pulling the same stunt on him isn't that impossible to believe. Especially given the fact that he's so arrogant that he just assumed they'd follow his orders under the guise of "the most powerful villain". Plus, given the fact that it was shown he was using them from the beginning, it's easy to deduce that he thought he was stringing them along when in reality they were plotting against him. Discord's arrogance was his own undoing.
So no, it wasn't bad writing.
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DrChrisman In reply to AlphamonOuryuuken [2020-02-15 16:51:07 +0000 UTC]
but that is what "The Summer Sun Setback"
but Discord is a chess master
even though he had been defeated before it when when he though he had (and did) won
He arrogant but not dumb
the fact that he sent them after something so powerful without keeping tabs on them
is out of character. Once again looking at Tirek
and no those "hints" where not very good hints. Cozy had better hints
It is bad writing
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DrChrisman In reply to DrChrisman [2020-02-16 01:15:28 +0000 UTC]
@ AlphamonOuryuuken (because they blocked me)
Then why have the full episode with just them instead of just showing them getting the bell?
and no Discord, also made sure that the elements could not be used against him even after the main six found them
Also Tirek seemed to have some respect for Discord too, why would it be any different if it was Grogar?
Once again bad writing and the fact that you block me speck volumes
Sorry to DeusExEquus , good luck with this comic
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AlphamonOuryuuken In reply to DrChrisman [2020-02-15 21:51:46 +0000 UTC]
Summer Sun Setback was a way of showing how they could properly use the Bell without their boss.
Discord is arrogant, especially when he thinks that he has everything under control when reality others are plotting against him. That's why he lost the first two times. Despite knowing that the elements were a threat, he didn't do anything to properly keep them out of reach aside from hide them in a book. So no, it's not out of character for him.
And again, Tirek seemed to have some respect for Grogar, hence why Discord thought it'd be enough to keep him in line.
So no, it wasn't bad writing. And that's final.
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AlphamonOuryuuken In reply to AlphamonOuryuuken [2021-04-12 23:25:30 +0000 UTC]
And for the record:
That episode was to show how they became a bigger threat than Discord.
So no, it wasn't bad writing, now zip it child.
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opvious In reply to AlphamonOuryuuken [2021-03-30 03:24:34 +0000 UTC]
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AlphamonOuryuuken In reply to opvious [2021-03-30 12:43:14 +0000 UTC]
Not even close.
The only Hypocrites are the villains in this dream sequence for not getting it through their thick skulls that they brought their stone imprisonment on themselves.
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opvious In reply to AlphamonOuryuuken [2021-03-30 16:00:49 +0000 UTC]
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AlphamonOuryuuken In reply to opvious [2021-03-30 16:05:25 +0000 UTC]
They at least showed REGRET for their actions in the grand scheme of and tried to make things right.
These villains? Nada. They were perfectly happy with how cruel they are and were willing to do it all over again no matter how many chances they were given.
So it's not hypocrisy, it was thee heroes taking a preemptive measure to make sure they never harmed anyone again.
And that's a FACT. Deal with it.
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AlphamonOuryuuken In reply to AlphamonOuryuuken [2021-03-30 22:32:26 +0000 UTC]
Also "HypocriteHunter11" AKA opvious, you're the only disgusting hypocrite here. The fact that you're so desperate to pretend you're right really showcases here if they're going to throw a temper tantrum like a child after you've been blocked.
You're wrong, and the three got what they deserved, got a problem with that? Go write your own fanfic.
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HypocriteHunter11 In reply to AlphamonOuryuuken [2021-03-30 17:16:38 +0000 UTC]
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DrChrisman In reply to DrX-Raven [2020-02-11 03:07:30 +0000 UTC]
she is no where close to that
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