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• Critical Thinking - George Carlin ...
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One of the smartest and most aware Americans to ever live...a fucking comedian
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• Higher education — Remember young man, your first step in the REAL WORLD is just 8 feet ahead. Best of luck !!! …item 2.. Men and women both have different ways to get from A to B (2 May 2012) ...
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• Critical thinking is a type of reasonable, reflective thinking that is aimed at deciding what to believe or what to do. It is a way of deciding whether a claim is always true, sometimes true, partly true, or false.
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• George Carlin (2005) Life Is Worth Losing .
There's a reason for this, there's a reason education sucks, and it's the same reason it will never ever ever be fixed. It's never going to get any better. Don't look for it. Be happy with what you've got... because the owners of this country don’t want that. I'm talking about the real owners now... the real owners. The big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don’t.
You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the state houses, the city halls. They got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies, so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying. Lobbying to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I’ll tell you what they don’t want.
They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well-informed, well-educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That’s against their interests...
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• Youtube video ... The Reason Education Sucks ... 05:07 minutes ...
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One of the smartest and most aware Americans to ever live...a fucking comedian
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for me Mr. Carlin is not a comedian, for me he is a teacher, scholar, mentor and a grandpa I never had .
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Wow,everything he said about the "higher people" ,the people in that "club" lol..and them making all the decisions,is so TRUE! The elections are rigged,everything u hear is fake..ugh..if only there were more smart people to understand this.
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Big fan of George Carlin here, to tell you the truth, I can't honestly say that he did not influence the piece
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He is exemplary of the target of the kind of education we currently have - the proper, total deletion of individuality, ready to be replaced by whatever ideology is fashionable at that time.
Also, this may not necessarily be true of Western schools - my personal experience with them is quite positive, but it is an inherent problem of the educational system we have inherited from the Soviet.
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This is exactly what the education system in America -- right now -- is demanding from students, complete and utter capitulation to the ideology of the day: cultural marxism, which is slowly becoming less cultural and more marxist. There is no room for the individual in the collective, the mantra of "diversity" is designed to bring a stultifying sameness to the individual. Weird times.
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I see what you mean. I haven't ever experienced that, but I can imagine the legacy left by the Soviet.
Just out of curiosity, what is your point of view on communism and the "soviet era" ? (do you have any point of view on that ?)
"this may not necessarily be true of Western schools"
Nope. The fact is that Western Schools claim to be "neutral" and "objective". They claim to be 100% ideology free. That's not true. But the fact that everyone feels like they are makes it even easier to include "non-neutral speeches" in classes. Because people aren't used to detect them and to isolate them from the rest (because we're in a democracy and blablabla). So everyone just fall in the big hole of "claimed objectivity". I did. And I discovered later that half of the things I was forced to learn as "the truth" weren't even shared by all the French Population.
School did not necessarily changed the facts (in History, for example), but it made them look shiny and all, while the reality was much darker than that.
Example : all countries of the western world would agree that Napoleon was a dictator. Well, I learnt he was a very important man, with interesting ideas and that he made French Empire "great again" (it reminds me of someone else, for some reason...).
Example 2 : the socialist period just before WW2 in France was a miracle because blablabla. When you listen to some people, it was a big mistake because it just "forgot about Germany" and let the whole thing happen. I mean, who can be proud of that ??
I wouldn't say this is better or worse than Soviet system, but it isn't a nice and pink system. You are lied without being able to spot the lies, because you are a child and because everybody says that school is here to teach you what is true. While really... It is not. Do you see what I mean or did I lose you ?
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About Soviet and communism in general I can only say that in the Soviet, communism went bad pretty fast. The concept is pretty futuristic, I think that it could be maybe upgraded/rethought and be applicable even nowadays.. But Soviet had some enormous pluses and likewise enormous minuses. Life for the regular artist/sculptor/writer etc was pretty good, they got their own studios for free, there was a thriving community of creators free to explore art as long as that art was not directly aimed against the communist party. It's not ideal, but it's kind of better than just ignoring the existence of art/culture that is so prevalent nowadays. What Soviet did generally was bring pretty poor/dying countries to a level that made them efficient, proud and cosmopolitan, in a way. There are many dark sides to the Soviet's rule - my great-grandfather was actually executed during Stalin's times, so yeah.. Not ideal, but not as bad as portrayed in the West, that's what I think, all things considered.
Yeah, I see what you mean - I hate historical axioms, because most of it is being processed to serve the needs of the current ideology - facts and half-truths are manipulated to represent different truths at different times.. We have the same problem here - as in some historical figures are presented as unquestionable heroes, others as irrefutable villains - and I don't think that can be true, there as so many facets that you can't just say - this is bad, this is good, it's not a video game..
I remember the one problem I had with education in the US was the constant praise aimed at their soldiers - in school, in press, in media.. it's like they're these holy crusaders bringing light and freedom, and all of their actions are above any critique.. knowing some examples of the not so ideal behavior of the soldiers/US army in general, I was irked that in a country that claims to have absolute freedom of speech, all the military actions were so unanimously revered.
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"Not ideal, but not as bad as portrayed in the West" - I could not agree more. I think the West just made things look evil for political reasons. And I think the East and the West remain in a tensed relationship because of that... They completely misunderstand each other.
But I overall agree with you on your idea of Communism. I did not "live it" so I can only refer to what I have heard of it, but I don't think it was worse than what we have in the West. To be honest, I look at the whole political stuff with cynical eyes, because I know you can vote for whoever you want, the Western societies are ruled by people who do whatever they want. We are useless. I feel like Communism quite "solved" this idea, even if I can imagine the top of the states being a bit boastful as well. I don't know if I make sense.. ?
"and I don't think that can be true, there as so many facets that you can't just say - this is bad, this is good" - in the end, this is chaos. Because, as moral is just an "illusion of order", when you dig in, you see it depends of LOADS of things, and therefore, you understand that there is no real order. And people have real trouble accepting this idea, because it would mean that all rules are pointless. That all behaviours can be done. It means losing control. And it is seen as an awful thing for most people out there. Which is quite understandable in the end, but you can't deny the truth because of fear, can you ?
"in a country that claims to have absolute freedom of speech" - let me laugh, please ! 
I understand you. I don't know why soldiers are so praised, there. Do you have any idea ?
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Agreed on all the points, T. I think the soldier propaganda - it was quite obnoxious, really, it started from video games, went all through ads, movies, posters, music - you name it - was just an easier way to get people to sign up into the ranks... In Armenia, soldier service is not voluntary - you turn eighteen or you finish university- bang! it's time to serve. In the US, they have this sort of voluntary/contract soldiering, and if people really know what being a soldier is about, I don't think that many would sign up...
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Do you think "obligated service" is a bad thing ?
What is "being a soldier" about, in your opinion ?
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It's not necessarily a bad thing. It's kind of like a rite of passage the old folks used to have for people for becoming men/women of age. It's a challenge, but not an unbeatable one, that does make you far stronger in the end.
Being a soldier is about, first and foremost, thinking outside of your small individual self. It's kind of like a group mind sort of state, where you just see yourself as a part of a whole, all the while readjusting your senses, your sense of right and wrong, your sense of fear and shock, your sense of smell to this new, 'soldier' level, where you say and do stuff you'll never later admit as a simple civilian. Mostly, though, being a soldier is about this sense of brotherhood, of caring about strangers who care about you in return. It's strange, a bit wild, but still - a very powerful experience.
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But you told me it broke you in some way. Do you think that challenge was "worth the price" in the end ?
I see what you mean. You kind of lose your individuality for a while, correct ? How is it to live as a part of a wider entity ? Do you feel protected, responsible, under pressure, all of these things at once ? Something else ?
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It is worth the price. Every penny of every drop of blood, sweat, tears and the two years. Because it's kind of like being forged anew - you lose some of your pieces, you get hit around a lot, beaten a lot, put through ice and fire - but in the end, you're a strong, confident person that doesn't scare so easy anymore.
Yes, you have to let go of a large part of your individuality. The things that make you differ too much are the things that make you vulnerable to a group. It's a strange experience, because most of the time, I remember catching myself thinking more as 'we' than as 'me' - I basically considered myself to be in most regards identical to the people I served with, and I know they felt the same way - it's a sort of a lopsided unity we had going there. It's a great deal of responsibility when we were seeing action, especially towards newbies who just became soldiers, and also, yes, there was the feeling of protection, because, no matter what happened, we knew we had each others' backs.
Let me bring you an example - it was my first month soldiering, and the drills had shaken me quite a bit. I had not eaten at all the whole month, but every single day we marched for a few hours, ran for a few hours, marched some more, et cetera, et cetera. It was in the middle of yet another drill that I just sort of fainted - it all went black in front of my eyes, I lost my sense of orientation, my head started spinning, I started falling. Before I fell, I felt a few hands catch me before I hit the ground - the next thing I know, total strangers are holding me up in the air, carrying me to the medbay, not caring what the officers will say, not caring what happens to them - they were doing this because I was a brother, and they were my brothers, even if we had never spoken, even if none of us knew each others' names.
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Ooooh I'm so late with this, sorry about that ! I'm such a lazy thing...
How would you describe yourself before and after service ? What pieces did you lose ?
What was your relation to newbies ? I'm curious about that.
Did you like losing your individuality ?
Wow, I see what you mean, now. 
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Before and after service... I'd say it's a fast course of aging 10 years in just 2. You're wiser, smarter, stronger, but laughing and overall joy becomes harder than you'd imagine. Sometimes a lone evening with a bottle of wine becomes preferable to a loud gathering with friends. Many ex-military guys I know, myself included, talk to themselves when no one can hear, and prefer silence when anyone is within earshot.
Relationship with newbies always carries a bit of a duality - on the one hand, you see yourself in each and every piece of this fresh meat, on the other - even though you can relate to them, understand them, you still despise them for the weakness and gullibility you yourself used to have when you were just beginning your own service. With time, this fades, until those former newbies join you in mocking the new kids brought about half a year later.
Losing individuality is a mixed blessing. It's a relief, but also not the kind of relief you'd like to actually have if given a choice. But when it does happen, it doesn't feel as bad as you'd think it would.
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In the end, you may be you're best friend. Why are you talking to yourself ? To me it looks like you think nobody can understand, so you prefer discussing with yourself. Because maybe you are sure you'll understand yourself ?
"and prefer silence when anyone is within earshot." - why is that ?
You despise them ? That's interesting. So you have to prove yourself to be part of the pack. How do you do so ?
"it doesn't feel as bad as you'd think it would." - interesting. So you knew it was going to happen ? Were you anxious about that ?
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You nailed it. Maybe voicing some issues makes them more solvable this way, and the schizophrenic conversation you have as a result is just a byproduct of the process of organizing the thoughts you have chaotically swirling in your mind, that, unvoiced, don't make so much sense?
Because silence is always the better option when there is nothing crucial to say. Maybe that's how I lost my fiancee, but one thing I currently hate is killing silence when there is actually nothing to say.
It's funny how, when you're actually out proving yourself, being a part of the pack, as you mentioned above, actually helps the newbies become a part of the pack themselves. You assign them the worst duties, you mock them, you make them think twice before they say something foolish - just as the older boys used to do to us when we were newbies ourselves. It may be a cruel and crude process, but in the end it creates brotherhood and camaraderie, because you basically give the kids a chance to prove themselves - in the eyes of your pack, and, maybe, in their own eyes. Civilian life never gives you a chance to so fully test yourself as the army does.
I was very anxious about the changes that might occur to my personality going in. Very scared. In the process, though, the fear of 'loss of individuality' and things like that fades, replaced by more immediate concerns. Upon reflection, you realize what was happening, but it's not something as horrifying as one might imagine just from the sound of 'loss of individuality'. Some things demand sacrifice. If I was busy thinking about post-modern art and the value of freedom in modern media in the field, I'd be dead for quite a long time now.
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Do you think the act of speaking out loud adds sense to words ?
Oooh, that. I couldn't agree more. A lot of people spend their time breaking silence with useless things. That's tiring.
Do you think if you were acting as "protectors", they wouldn't be able to join the pack ?
"Civilian life never gives you a chance to so fully test yourself as the army does." - I agree with that. You have to be your own pack and your own "newbie squad". You have to test yourself on your own.
"f I was busy thinking about post-modern art and the value of freedom in modern media in the field, I'd be dead for quite a long time now."
Maybe the fact that you weren't thinking that much about all those things is actually what made them bearable. No ?
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It makes you shape thoughts into words. When you do this, you kind of untangle your own musings and give some sort of form and shape, making them easier to understand.
I'd have to agree with your last question/statement, as I'm often convinced, especially recently, that the more thought you give something, the more power/substance you give that thing in your own internal ecology. Your mind starts prioritizing and focusing on the things you most often bring to mind, and so even the most trivial things can take up a lot of internal space, I guess.
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Reminds me of Hegel, for some reason : he said that thoughts cannot be approached as objective thoughts except if said out loud. So, it related to what you say, because when given a shape, words can be approached. Otherwise, they are blur entities without true existence (I know, I'm just clumsily summing up Hegel, and it may not be exact). Maybe it's a way of making your thoughts "real" ? Because even if nobody can hear them, the action of saying them make them real and make your feelings real as well ? Or I am totally wrong ?
I agree. Maybe that's why "grey people", as we call them, don't like thinking at all ? They're scared of being parasitised (is that the right word ?) by thoughts ?
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It is exactly as you say - you give shape and form to abstract things like thoughts, and when you do - you can actually interact with them, see their flaws and virtues, maybe morph them into something more to your conscious liking.
Yes, the grey people are big on escapism. That's why the most popular genre of television/cinema/video games/literature is fantasy/science fiction. People just want to escape their reality, the objective world, they want to put walls upon walls between themselves and the things they do not understand. Sadly, this kind of ignorant behavior is a bit of a trend these days.
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"maybe morph them into something more to your conscious liking."
What do you mean ?
Sci fi is an escape, but it can also be seen as a critique of the world we live in. I have no example since I'm not a big sci-fi fan, but I guess everything we create is rooted in what we live/see/whatever, on a daily basis. No ?
Time to create a new trend, it seems !
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