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What is this?This is a video of how I would like dAmn to behave. Mostly in regards to doing the /admin commands.

Why am I doing it?I've had this idea in my head for a few months, and decided to finally put it down on 'paper' and flesh out all the details.

Do I actually think this will happen?No not really, it's just my thoughts on it all. It's great if it inspires someone to make a Greasemonkey script or extension or something, and hey, if the tech guys see this, and it inspires them to change something to make it better, that's great.

What is this not?This is NOT a Greasemonkey script/Extension to make dAmn work like this. Hell, I don't even know if it would be possible to do this with a script or extension. This is simply a video showing how I would like dAmn to work. This is also NOT how I think it should look, it's more of how I think it should work. The buttons are too big, and just don't look good. The point here is to show how I think all the /admin commands could be improved.

And this is in NO WAY bashing the work of the coders of dAmn. It's really a great piece of work, and it has made MANY deviants happy. It brings people together like nothing else. This is JUST an idea of how I would like to improve it.





Like I said, I've been thinking about this for a while. The biggest problem I think dAmn has is that new users are totally lost when it comes to managing their own room. Simple things, like setting up the different privclasses and even making a title or topic can be hard for people. I really wish it was more intuitive and easy to do. More graphical and less command line. Sure, there is plenty of good info on how to do it all, but the fact remains that some people just don't work like that.

This would not replace any commands, it is just another way to do it. Most things are probably faster with the /admin commands, but then there's the dragging and dropping of privclasses that would be much faster. And the /manage/ page should stay where it is, because sometimes you may want to administrate something without joining the room.

Things to think about.I'm not sure if clicking the X by a user should ban them, or just kick them to the default privclass. Some people may not know how to /ban username, and that would clear that up, but I fear it may be too easy to accidentally ban someone.

Now if I was any good at coding, I would have just made an HTML page that has a real time demonstration of all this, but I'm just no good at that. I'm much better at video stuff, so that's what I did. I'm sure there's tons of things here that can be improved, but that's why you're here. Give me ideas!

As of making this, I've been up almost 34 hours. So I probably left something out, but I tried to get all the /admin stuff in there. Let me know if I missed something though.

Now for the details of the video.This was all done in After Effects, with nothing but screenshots of dAmn. I animated EVERYTHING. I even animated the mouse cursor moving around. So this ended up being 69 image/text layers, with one audio layer. There was a shit ton of position and opacity key frames too, I didn't use any effects, it's all pretty simple stuff. But I ended up spending 12 hours making it. It just takes time to make all the images needed and to figure out how to put it all together. The sound was from my favorite site, FreePlayMusic.com. I had to find something about 3:50 long, and that really limited my pickings. But I think it works pretty well.


Again, let me know what you think. I am very open to ideas

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Comments: 58

TheCyberRaven [2013-08-15 09:42:48 +0000 UTC]

it's funny how the scripts made years after this video allow you to do something close to this , but you know what I think will be really neat and handy to do?, being  able to  move the chatrooms you are in around, you know when you are in a lot of rooms at once on one tab..other wise to do the same thing you have to get auto-join and organize them as you add them on to it one by one , but who know later on you might want to move one room a few spaces back  on the list..the only way  to do that is  to remove the rooms a head of it and then  type the name back in along with  rest of them... just to make it the 5th room you auto-join  in instead of the 10th DX so much work, but just making  it so you can click and drag them an place it were you want it well make it a dream come true

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electricjonny In reply to TheCyberRaven [2013-08-15 17:28:32 +0000 UTC]

Haha, there's actually a script that lets you drag the chat tabs around, although it might be broken.  realillusions.deviantart.com/a… is the original script but it could be broken.

Not sure what you mean by autojoin (there's a few) but I have an autojoin that lets you reorder rooms easier than removing them and adding them in place.  It's on my page at the top, first submission.



But yeah, chats could use a lot of work to make things easier

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TheCyberRaven In reply to electricjonny [2013-08-16 01:19:06 +0000 UTC]

Yeah XD I found that script last night and yes it turns out it is kinda broken and really need some work and updated, and also I have got your Autojoin, but it might be one of the older ones you did if you have more then one on your page ^^ I go look, and thank you for the reply and the link, and I have added you to my watch list ^^

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electricjonny In reply to TheCyberRaven [2013-08-16 01:22:01 +0000 UTC]

The autojoin on my userpage should work well for ya

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TheCyberRaven In reply to electricjonny [2013-08-16 01:26:17 +0000 UTC]

Alright ^^, Thanks

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FaithLavinia [2010-12-14 08:55:51 +0000 UTC]

Hey that looks really awesome. Would've been a big help to me when I first started out making a chat room. It's great and simple enough to use.

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electricjonny In reply to FaithLavinia [2010-12-14 09:02:23 +0000 UTC]

Thanks

I'd be nice to have it this easy to manage

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supershaun91 [2008-10-03 17:53:13 +0000 UTC]

best film so far.

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electricjonny In reply to supershaun91 [2008-10-04 02:54:40 +0000 UTC]

Haha thanks

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FabulousFabulous [2008-09-20 13:22:35 +0000 UTC]

What did you mean by getting rid of the chatroom names and usernames?

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electricjonny In reply to FabulousFabulous [2008-09-20 17:29:58 +0000 UTC]

That area above the text input area, where it says ~username on #chatroomname.

I just don't think that part is needed. And it take up space

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FabulousFabulous In reply to electricjonny [2008-09-20 17:38:07 +0000 UTC]

Ah, yeah, I hadn't noticed that part, but it does seem pretty unnecessary and space-consuming.

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electricjonny In reply to FabulousFabulous [2008-09-20 18:01:09 +0000 UTC]

Indeed. ¢mindfuckx came up with a mock up for a new chat that gets rid of it too [link]

Although I think the Controls: part isn't needed, but it's a start

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Norke [2008-08-30 14:46:59 +0000 UTC]

This combined with what ¢mindfuckx designed. That would be awesome.

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electricjonny In reply to Norke [2008-08-30 15:20:03 +0000 UTC]

Thanks

But what deviation is that? His Beta Testing Back-end deviation? I didn't really see any forum designs in his gallery.

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Norke In reply to electricjonny [2008-08-30 15:30:20 +0000 UTC]

Oh, no, his dAmn redesign.

:thumb96204251:

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electricjonny In reply to Norke [2008-08-30 15:36:05 +0000 UTC]

Ah yes, I saw that one. Not bad, but still not quite perfect. Read my comment to him for those details

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noxiousone [2008-07-31 22:35:57 +0000 UTC]

good idea I like it

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electricjonny In reply to noxiousone [2008-07-31 22:39:43 +0000 UTC]

Thank you

They really need to make it easier for people not so good with command line stuff.

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TrendyDNA [2008-07-16 21:24:58 +0000 UTC]

I made a mock-up of dAmn that fits with the v6 skin. It has similar features to yours. I'd like to know what you think. [link]

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electricjonny In reply to TrendyDNA [2008-07-16 22:36:47 +0000 UTC]

Not bad. I really like the idea of the emotes being down there

And it seems like drag and drop is all over dA now, so I hope they add that in.

Nice work

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TrendyDNA In reply to electricjonny [2008-07-17 00:56:12 +0000 UTC]

thanks.

I'm also making a compact dAmn to be used while browsing.

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frozenpandaman [2008-05-24 18:27:58 +0000 UTC]

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CasheeFoo [2008-05-24 07:54:50 +0000 UTC]

hahaaha xD i love it!

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electricjonny In reply to CasheeFoo [2008-05-24 08:15:28 +0000 UTC]

Thanks

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sumopiggy [2008-05-23 16:17:38 +0000 UTC]

Hey, I think this is definitely possible to reproduce as a userscript. When I get my current projects done I could give it a try if you don't mind? I definitely think this would be useful, I've always hated trying to use the /admin command, I still don't really know how to use it. But this is possible, just will take some work.

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electricjonny In reply to sumopiggy [2008-05-23 16:21:56 +0000 UTC]

Well @realillusions is already making a script, but you can do one too if you want

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Marker-Guru [2008-05-20 23:02:51 +0000 UTC]

YES PLZ

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electricjonny In reply to Marker-Guru [2008-05-20 23:22:00 +0000 UTC]

@realillusions is making a Greasemonkey script for this. I don't know how much will be in it, but I think he at least has the text box for the title/topic

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Marker-Guru In reply to electricjonny [2008-05-21 00:20:04 +0000 UTC]

OMG YAY

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Rebel2206 [2008-05-19 22:51:37 +0000 UTC]

Looking Cool man, can't wait to try it out, if it gets that far, nice work

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electricjonny In reply to Rebel2206 [2008-05-19 22:52:23 +0000 UTC]

Thanks

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karyaazure [2008-05-19 13:54:56 +0000 UTC]

Good ideas - except I like having the room name - helps if you're in multiple rooms

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electricjonny In reply to karyaazure [2008-05-19 18:53:01 +0000 UTC]

Hmm, you mean by the multiline? Well, that's just my personal opinion. You can't look up at the tab you are in to find out what room you are in?

Anyway, thanks for the advice, I'll see if I can find a better spot for that

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karyaazure In reply to electricjonny [2008-05-20 03:52:29 +0000 UTC]

ah I thought you meant the tab i r slow

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electricjonny In reply to karyaazure [2008-05-20 04:54:17 +0000 UTC]

Nope, just that small text by the multiline. There would be much confusion if they got rid of the tab name

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parliamentFunk [2008-05-19 12:59:13 +0000 UTC]

The beast part was the music selection.

Nice work Jon.

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electricjonny In reply to parliamentFunk [2008-05-19 18:48:22 +0000 UTC]



Thanks man

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parliamentFunk In reply to parliamentFunk [2008-05-19 12:59:31 +0000 UTC]

Best part even...

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in-art-we-trust [2008-05-19 12:15:53 +0000 UTC]

That looks like a pretty sweet, easy way of organising the /admin of a chat room.

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electricjonny In reply to in-art-we-trust [2008-05-19 18:48:08 +0000 UTC]

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Raggatron [2008-05-19 11:20:39 +0000 UTC]

jesus!

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electricjonny In reply to Raggatron [2008-05-19 18:47:55 +0000 UTC]

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scarletwave [2008-05-19 05:14:21 +0000 UTC]

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electricjonny In reply to scarletwave [2008-05-19 18:47:46 +0000 UTC]

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realillusions [2008-05-19 03:24:54 +0000 UTC]

I've made a depressingly large amount of progress on this.

I mean, really. It's sad. If I keep going like this, I'll have it done in a week.

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electricjonny In reply to realillusions [2008-05-19 18:42:57 +0000 UTC]

You are the man!

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shadowed-light-waves [2008-05-19 03:10:51 +0000 UTC]

Awesome!

Loved the music, by the way. I was waiting for "O Fortuna" to start playing when the part about Banning someone began....

This was great, though! When you first hit the "Edit Chatroom" button, all of the (<) and (+) buttons looked a bit cluttered... but it was ABSOLUTELY clear what everything did. And it looked easy! That's certainly something that the current dAmn is lacking: Clear-cut chatroom commands and settings. Major kudos on that.




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electricjonny In reply to shadowed-light-waves [2008-05-19 18:46:36 +0000 UTC]

Haha, I wanted to put some O Fortuna on it, but I think it's copyrighted, at least, the current recordings are, I don't think that piece is still under copyright, or something

And yeah, I think I'll put a still image up of how it should look. I didn't really concentrate on the look for the video.

And yeah, something clear cut is what people need

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skittle-eatin-cat [2008-05-19 02:35:46 +0000 UTC]

yes, I fully agree This makes everything alot easier to handle

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