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Quick and (hopefully) simple guide as to how I sculpted the wings of my Pegasus Royal Guard [link]Any questions or additional information about things i've missed please ask.
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KwartzKitten [2014-02-23 05:21:09 +0000 UTC]
Thank you for taking time to make this! If you don't mind I had a couple questions about one of the materials, the plasticard. Namely what exactly is it and how does it apply to polymer clay? Can it be baked without loosing the shaping? I tried googling for this but couldn't find anything definitive. Thanks either way!
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frozenpyro71 In reply to KwartzKitten [2014-02-23 18:04:54 +0000 UTC]
Plasticard is essentially just styrene that can be brought in sheets, rods, tubes, angles and a load of other shapes and thicknesses. Its used a lot in model railway builds and scale models. The best place to find it is eBay or to search for 'evergreen scale models'.
For polymer clay work its not ideal as it will bend and warp when heated; a good thing for building with it but not baking it. Thats why this wing method uses an epoxy clay, no baking required. For polymer clay I haven't really found a substitute but someone did mention tooling foil as a good base.
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KwartzKitten In reply to frozenpyro71 [2014-02-24 04:34:33 +0000 UTC]
Hmmm, interesting! Thank you for telling me.
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Drieth [2014-02-05 15:17:00 +0000 UTC]
It looks wonderful, thank you for the tip! I'd also like to know how you attach the wings to the sculpt itself
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frozenpyro71 In reply to Drieth [2014-02-06 01:57:18 +0000 UTC]
Usually with a length of wire or paperclip drilled into both the wing and the body and glued in place.
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frozenpyro71 In reply to PlatinaStar [2013-11-04 03:01:58 +0000 UTC]
Not particularly, its just a thin sheet of plastic and a layer of clay. Nothing to it really.
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Mahira-K [2013-09-30 22:30:25 +0000 UTC]
Awesome! *_* I was just going to ask you, if you'd know any ways to sculpt something like a cape - but your wing tutorial really helped me out - thank you very much! *_*
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SpazSenpai [2013-09-08 19:50:33 +0000 UTC]
Where can I get "Milliput" and "Greenstuff"? I've never heard of anything being called that.
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TaishoArcanix In reply to SpazSenpai [2013-12-01 00:04:52 +0000 UTC]
almost any 2 part epoxy puty will work also. just so long as it hardens up to solid end result. if you are in doubt about the puty, kneed up a small ball of it and let it cure.
depending on your location, or sources:
Privateer press has a sculpting putty
Games workshop has their green stuff
Cool Mini or Not has a decent putty as well as a quick mold for duplicating
Milliput
sculpty and sculpty2 these are more of a advanced sort. requires a calculated time in an oven to cure them. emphasis on calculated time. to long, you burn, to little it doens't cure. you get ONE try.
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frozenpyro71 In reply to SpazSenpai [2013-09-08 21:27:59 +0000 UTC]
Some art supply shops have them but, if in doubt... Ebay.
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Nachtana [2013-05-11 09:51:08 +0000 UTC]
Even i did not exactly following your tutorial, it was still a great help for the wings on my own model. The basic was a 0.5 mm plastic card too.
To be exact: I bended them with a heat gun and noticed, that this card is bending on its own. And always in the same direction. Good to know when you draw the wings on the card. The first ones bended in the wrong direction.
I took a different way for making the feathers. I made them without crafting a shaft on purpose. It's coming out by making the ribs (or barbs, if you want id correctly) of the Feathers. Second, my feathers are not going from end to end of the Wings. That was impossible because of the special kind of wings i did. so i made them like roof tiles. But the rest is similiar to yours and this tutorial was the reason why i got enough confidence to make a pair of my own wings.
BTW: This is my result. [link]
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Zistheone [2013-01-25 04:11:20 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for the tutorial, it looks great, but what about the backside of the wing?
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frozenpyro71 In reply to Zistheone [2013-01-26 03:42:27 +0000 UTC]
The back of the wings is done in exactly the sme way as the front, but instead of three rows of feathers there are two.
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SameAsUsual [2012-11-20 14:18:58 +0000 UTC]
This is really helpful!
I just started working on a pair of wings and was about to start a battle with the old metal wire making an armature.
The idea of making it using plasticard is really clever!
Thanks!
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Sarablack10 [2012-09-30 18:53:50 +0000 UTC]
Nice tutorial. Do you sculpt the other side afterwards?
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frozenpyro71 In reply to Sarablack10 [2012-10-01 01:36:13 +0000 UTC]
No I sculpted the wing just for the tutorial so didn't really need to do the underside.
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Sarablack10 In reply to frozenpyro71 [2012-10-01 01:44:56 +0000 UTC]
But you normally sculpt the other side too, right?
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frozenpyro71 In reply to Sarablack10 [2012-10-01 02:15:47 +0000 UTC]
Yes, both sides are sculpted. If both were done it would look like [link]
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Sarablack10 In reply to frozenpyro71 [2012-10-01 02:21:32 +0000 UTC]
That looks amazing! You're very talented.
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JStanSantana [2012-08-18 21:29:25 +0000 UTC]
I love this, but I must ask. What kind of clay did you use?
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frozenpyro71 In reply to JStanSantana [2012-08-18 22:37:51 +0000 UTC]
The clay i use is called milliput. its a two part clay that doesn't require any baking or firing.
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batosan [2012-07-17 03:17:32 +0000 UTC]
Went with the "Tear drop" style feather, but still used most of your process! Great work.
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Firehawk9 [2012-07-11 19:19:25 +0000 UTC]
Fascinating and very time consuming. Thanks for making this very helpful guide.
I've tried molding feathers by making an oversized feather then making a mold and using it to make feathers that i cut out, but the mold stuck to the clay too much. Therefore, my feathers were thicker than yours. I You have much more patience than me. Do you do any shading with the wing paint job? Does the paint ever fill in the cracks and lines when you don't want it to?
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frozenpyro71 In reply to Firehawk9 [2012-07-12 22:48:09 +0000 UTC]
Its hard to tell from the last picture but its painted with a midnight blue all the way up to a very light grey-blue.
The paint clogging up the datails is not an issue as I thin down my paints to such an extent that it never really has the chance. I use lots of thin layers to get the colour I want. The wing in this tutorial was also given a wash of thinned ink to excentuate the details as it flows into them and makes them stand out.
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batosan [2012-07-10 15:29:12 +0000 UTC]
Thank You! Hope to use this in a few days for a Luna sculpt I'm in the middle of.
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frozenpyro71 In reply to batosan [2012-07-12 22:24:52 +0000 UTC]
Oooh i'd very much like to see your take on this style of wings.
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batosan In reply to frozenpyro71 [2012-07-13 13:51:01 +0000 UTC]
I'm still debating on the "Feather" or "Tear Drop" Type of plumage. But it will follow your "Tutorial" quite close! Milliput is a god send! The work I'm doing now would not have come together without it! That's another big Thank you!
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PonyVillain [2012-07-10 09:19:53 +0000 UTC]
That's really clever and yet extremely involved. Good luck to anyone who gets involved with this craziness. :3
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frozenpyro71 In reply to PonyVillain [2012-07-10 11:13:45 +0000 UTC]
Yes, very involved. I was sculpting the wings on my Pegasus guard for about a week and half. Almost drove me insane
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Dragon620026 [2012-07-10 06:44:28 +0000 UTC]
Plasticard huh?! Wow... I've been doing wings the hard way :/
This is a HUGE improvement from the way I usually do it. Thank you!!!
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ColorsofCrystal [2012-07-10 05:32:33 +0000 UTC]
this is awesome! I might think of using more of this style for my wings that I draw.... hmmm.....
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frozenpyro71 In reply to ColorsofCrystal [2012-07-12 22:50:23 +0000 UTC]
Thanks, send me a link when you're done i'd like to see what you come up with.
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Lesh4537 [2012-07-10 03:39:42 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for the great tutorial! I've seen another artist do something the same technique but on a much larger scale with a wire armature.
I've never heard of 'Milliput' or 'Greenstuff' before. I use something very similar called Apoxie. If you're interested here's a [link] It might be a step up from what your using.
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frozenpyro71 In reply to Lesh4537 [2012-07-10 11:10:07 +0000 UTC]
I have heard of Apoxie, and from what I can tell it has quite similar properties as the Milliput/green stuff mix. I do really like working with Milliput but I'll try anything once
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Lesh4537 In reply to frozenpyro71 [2012-07-11 01:34:58 +0000 UTC]
Use what works best for you, of course. I know I found Apoxie to be superior to anything I had ever used. But I also haven't used the products you referenced either.
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frozenpyro71 In reply to Lesh4537 [2012-07-11 18:09:06 +0000 UTC]
I'll try any material once, if i see that stuff anywhere i'll give it a shot.
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Xaphriel [2012-07-10 01:49:25 +0000 UTC]
Dude, that is awesome. I won't personally be sculpting anything like this in the near future, but this is the first thing I'll go to when I do.
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EngineeredMadness [2012-07-10 01:18:46 +0000 UTC]
This is brilliant. Thank you for posting.
The previous approach I was using involved texturing then cutting feathers out of a thin rolled sheet of polymer clay on aluminum foil; it was difficult to support them adequately on a skeletal wire armature. I never would have guessed to use a solid armature like that. So question time: Do you sculpt onto the bottom of the armature, or do you remove the armature, and work off your wings (wing-tops)? Cause I recall your wings were double sided.
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