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Description It seemed to me that more and more so lately, I'm noticing disharmony between artists here on dev relating to the critique system. I don't think it's that artists don't want honest critques, I think it stems more from miscommunication and perhaps not everyone understanding how to give a helpful critque. In any case, I didn't think it would hurt to throw this guide together and just maybe, it might help improve communication between each other.

Now, I don't want to sound preachy, either. These are just thoughts and techniques I have found work well for me. Like any other tutorial, you may find some work for you and some don't. Just take from it what you like and leave the rest behind

*Edit 3/13/05: re *tigrin 's suggestion, I went back and added some general and brief definitions for the formal elements.

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Critique. It’s one of those words that society has taken into one of the most negative connotations, and yet, it’s not meant to be a negative at all. In the art world, the idea of a critique is to examine the formal elements of a particular piece of art. It has absolutely nothing to do with passing judgment or assessing its validity, it is just a way to look beyond the obvious. It is an invaluable process within the artistic community and the responsibility to handle it properly should not be taken lightly.

Now, personally, I was introduced to the process at a very young age. Back in grade school, we had a woman that would come in once a month and we would go over several pieces and review the formal elements involved. Of course, my level of understanding at that age was not what it is now, but still, I knew the basics and if asked, how to approach a proper critique.

It has come to my attention that many people were not likewise exposed and are relatively new to the concept of critiquing the works of others. There seems to be a bit of high tension lately as some people are presenting things in a less than tactful way, upsetting artists, and in turn, getting upset and thinking that the artist does not want an honest critique. Well, I can’t speak for everyone, but I know for myself personally that is not the case. I do want an honest critique, but I also appreciate one done properly that shows respect for the work at the same time as examining it.

As many people do not understand the difference between those two concepts and many have not yet been exposed to the proper way to give a critique, I thought a little guide might be helpful. This is especially important here on devArt as if you are going to participate in the critiquing/commenting process, it’s best to do so with a full understanding of what is and is not considered good form.

First and foremost, the formal elements of art I mentioned include but are not limited
to:

Theme – the idea, emotion, or motif behind the piece.

Expression – how the theme is carried out in a piece on a technical level. What elements are employed to express the theme and how well does it read.

Line – how lines are used in the piece, both in the literal lines you can see and in the implied ones created by objects and directional movement.

Color – how color is used, including, but not limited to the tonal palate (warm tones like reds, oranges, browns versus cool tones like blues and greens), use of contrast and complimentary, and also how the color has been used to render and draw focus.

Form – how the artist has used rendering techniques to create a dimensional feel and how those forms then register and relate to each other.

Repetition – how shapes, colors, and lines can be repeated throughout a piece to create unity, pattern, balance, and/or rhythm.

Composition – how the different elements of the piece are arranged to give and specific effect or mood. The actual staging of a piece.

Balance – a more surreal term, does the piece feel balanced and well grounded where it is? Are the objects centered, or all to one side? Does one side seem to feel more pull than another?

Direction – somewhat related to balance, how the elements combine to create a pull to a common point in space.

Movement – similar to energy, but also including literal movement within a piece. How alive a piece feels, both for abstract and representational works.

Energy – the dynamics of a piece. Do the different elements like color, line, and pattern create a calm state or a more energetic one.

Rhythm – how elements like pattern, repetition, and flow work together to create an overall unified feel.

Flow – how the eye moves around the piece and how well the different elements relate to each other.

Focus – how the artist has used to formal elements to guide the viewer to a main subject area.

Depth of Field – how the literal focus has been adjusted to create depth in the piece, i.e., objects at a closer range are more/less in focus than those at a distance.

Emotion – also related to theme, but the emotional level or idea in a piece. Also the emotional response it elicits from the viewer.

Symbolism – elements of the piece that involve a subtext beyond their outward appearance. They are what they appear to be at first glance, but they may also be representational of an idea, a person, or an emotion.

Iconography – a type of symbolism related to specific images or objects the viewer should use to understand a piece. For instance, placing a heart over a person’s head would be an iconographic reference to love.


How an artist has chosen to use these elements should be the central issue, not whether or not you care for the particular subject, style, etc… What follows are some tips on how to keep that focus.


1) A critique is not just about what is ‘wrong’ with a piece. This is an unfortunate misunderstanding that I have seen perpetrated all too often. Simply pointing out each and every thing you consider to be a flaw in a piece of art is not a good critique. A good critique is balanced and addresses many if not all of the formal elements, expressing both good and bad, what you feel works, and what doesn’t. This may seem to be an overly ‘pc’ approach to some, but if you focus on the negative, the person you are trying to help is likely to tune you out without taking in your meaning which accomplishes nothing for either of you. Remember, this is something the person has likely poured hours of work into and understandably, they may be rather attached to it and if all you have to say is negative and they see some good, they may discredit your perfectly valid points. A balanced evaluation is the best and most proper approach. Try to address the elements you think were carried out well in addition to the one’s you felt maybe could use some work.

2) Remember to leave your personal tastes behind. If you are going to evaluate a piece of art, you have to be able to approach it from a totally neutral perspective. If you don’t care for a particular genre or style, to give a good critique, that needs to be left out of it. That is not to say you are not entitled to that opinion, but I’m sure the artist is well aware that there are those that will not care for the style/genre of their work and there is no need to say so again. As mentioned before, you want the person to be receptive to what you have to say and if you start out with an obvious prejudice, they will likely discredit anything else you may have written. Again, this is of no help to anyone and defeats the purpose of the critique.

3) Be constructive with your criticisms. Unfortunately, this is a very ambiguous area. How do you say something bad in a good way? Well, to start out with, saying something is ‘ugly,’ ‘annoying,’ and/or ‘bad’ is not constructive. It gives the artist nothing to help them improve. Again, your ultimate goal is to help the person you are lending your time to and if all you do is slander their hard work, they are unlikely to listen. If per say you find something lacking in a piece, it is far better to try to focus on why you find it lacking and express it that way. Saying a color feels a bit too bright is far more helpful than saying it is ugly or wrong. By focusing on the source of your gut instinct, you are both helping the artist because it is much harder if not impossible for them to try to guess why you had a certain reaction.

4) Similarly, do try to be honest. It’s all well and good to be polite, but also not to the point where you are being untruthful. Don’t hold back your opinion, just try to keep in mind how you would like it expressed to you if it was your own artwork being commented on.

5) Also important specifically here on devART is the level of critique the person has indicated they desire. Obviously, if they say ‘do not critique,’ they do not want it critiqued for many possible reasons. If they ask for an ‘advanced critique,’ then fire away, but still keep in mind that you want to be respectful in doing so. More ambiguous is the ‘critique welcome’ option. Keep in mind, this is the only middle ground deviantART has set up. While the person is not asking you to refrain from a more in-depth look at the work, they are also not specifically requesting it, so try to keep that in mind.

6) Use maturity and tact in your comments. Of course, this may fluctuate depending on the age of the artist that produced the work, but if you are evaluating a serious nude, then it is not generally good form to make jokes about body parts, etc. Understandably, one of the most natural responses in people when they are nervous or uncomfortable about something is to make a joke, but think first about whether it is appropriate or not. If not, it might be better to say nothing.

7) Saying nothing is perfectly alright. If you really just don’t like a genre like anime, or abstract expressionism, or portraiture and do not think you can comment without those prejudices influencing you, it is perfectly alright to say nothing at all about the piece. To have an opinion does not mean it has to be expressed at every opportunity. As mentioned before, the artist already knows that there are those that do not share their same interests. Simply telling them again with no consideration for the formal elements of the work does not help them at all and isn’t the end goal to help the artist?

8) Be prepared that the artist may not agree with you. That does not mean that they do not respect your opinion, but just as you do not necessarily agree with the choices they made, they might not agree with yours. In the end, art is very subjective and each person will have their own taste. You can offer a suggestion, but don’t take it personally if the artist decides against it. It is not that they are unwilling to hear criticism, they just don’t happen to agree with that particular suggestion. Remember, all you are offering is an opinion. It may be an opinion shared by many, but in the end, it is only an opinion and the artist is the one with the end say.

9) Do not try to pass judgment on the ‘validity’ of someone’s chosen means of expression. There many different forms of art out there, some I like and some I don’t, but if it is of no harm to others, then I have no right to say what is and isn’t ‘art.’ Someone else might choose a different means of expression than I would, but that does not make those feelings they are expressing any less valid.

10) Try to look at the age and level of the artist. On devART, there are many different ages and skill levels. The scale ranges from professionals to amateurs to hobbyists. You may want to be a bit less harsh with a 12 year old or someone that is just doing art for fun than with an aspiring professional that is trying to hone their skills to break into the field.

11) Be willing to put your money where your mouth is. It is not a necessity, but a very nice addition if you can see that the person offering suggestions understands what they are talking about and can demonstrate it in their own work. As I said, this is not a necessity, but I’ve always found I’m far more receptive to taking suggestions from professors and other artists whose work I respect. It shows that they understand what they are saying on both a theoretical and practical level.

12) Do not, I repeat do not use the critique/comment area for promoting your own work. That is extremely bad form. That’s like coming into someone else’s gallery show with fliers for your own or coming to someone’s wedding and trying to upstage the bride, it’s just not done. Mentioning that you have dealt with a similar theme/character and even comparing and contrasting the two is generally accepted, but to use the space to link up your own work is very disrespectful. Obviously, if the artist is interested (and I would hope they are as I’m always interested in seeing how different artists have approached the same subject), they can come over and find it in your gallery, but it is impolite to impose.

13) If you are going to ask a question, be respectful of the artist’s time and read the description first. Nine times out of ten, the question has already been answered there. After all, they were nice enough to take the time to provide all of the information you might need to properly understand a particular piece, if you ignore it, then you are showing disrespect for that original time spent and the time they now must spend answering it again.

Now, in the end, these are only suggestion to help both you and the person who you are critiquing. Just like with a critique, you might agree with some or none of these and ultimately, how you approach it is up to you. These are just my own observations and things I have found help me from both ends in terms of understanding where someone else is coming from in offering a critique and helping them understand where I’m coming from when I am offering one. Maybe these tips will prove useful for you and maybe they won’t, but it’s something to think about in anycase.
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Comments: 567

Helen-Baq In reply to ??? [2007-11-06 07:11:51 +0000 UTC]

I was going to write something like this a few years ago, but never got around to it. I think you did a better job than I would have, anyway. Would you mind if I share this with another community if I credit you?

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TazounsBones In reply to ??? [2007-11-03 10:12:22 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for creating this roundup of tips. As most members agree, these will be very usefull here.

True there are a lot of wonderfull drawings, photographs, poems and other works i like. But how to critique a picture or poem created by someone not so advanced or professional?

I find myself often adding a small appreciative comment, a short 'What would be interesting to try.. ' or 'I look forward to see more like..', complemented with a heads-up like 'Keep it up!'

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Inky20xx [2007-11-01 10:12:56 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for the wonderful piece of advice! Granted, I never really critique badly to the point of upsetting someone, but should a need arises I'll know whose advise to turn to. +Fav'd

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DekeNicki [2007-10-17 19:44:53 +0000 UTC]

WOW!! I've got to fav this - unfortunately I'm not at all artistically minded, and I don't really think that these will transfer well to the knitting world, but it's really incredible that you did all of this to help people communicate better!!

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nightmare-orchestra In reply to ??? [2007-10-12 23:56:47 +0000 UTC]

A good piece of writting which opinions are informing and still feel fresh, and seeing the lack of unfearfull and brave critiques... a quite needed article too, so thank you for this.

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SHADOWPRIME [2007-10-07 14:21:30 +0000 UTC]

I'm always struggling to make crtique cos I have no idea what to write about so I mostly resort to saying "AWESOME" however I also try to leave something like a joke.....but with this guide maybe I can step up my game a bit and be more helpful to my fellow artists.

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bggringo [2007-10-05 17:52:32 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for posting this it was very informative.

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Sh3lly [2007-10-05 10:29:31 +0000 UTC]

Alot of your sentiments echo that of my own Thanks for putting so much of your time into writing this! Here's to hoping that more and more people learn how to critique properly! This definitely goes to my favorites .

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Rave779 [2007-10-05 01:45:27 +0000 UTC]

I mainly added this, because I wanted to help spread this information to as many people as possible, since this these are the kinds of comments I want as my critiques. *nods*

Thanks for taking the time to make this, I really appreciate it. =]

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Cindi-Khieu [2007-09-26 15:39:04 +0000 UTC]

This is probably my favorite piece in your gallery. These tips could've stopped so many of the "flame wars" I see on a deviation. I really wish more people would critique like this, to be honest, DA seems to be where people go to get what I like to call, an "artistic blowjob"; the majority of any artist's comments are usually things like "Awsome! *fav*", while those who don't do that usually just flame you. Those who actually critique are few and far between.

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GoblinQueeen In reply to Cindi-Khieu [2007-09-27 16:11:37 +0000 UTC]

Well, and that's just it. Not to sound cliche, but the old addage about 'do unto others as you would have them do unto you' isn't just to be nice, it really does make things run smoother

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InkAntigen [2007-09-15 03:57:07 +0000 UTC]

I'm learning to give a constructive critique and this tutorial is really helpful. Although I'm not professional artist and have little knowledge about art, I'm willing to give it a try.

Thank you for sharing this nice thing.

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GoblinQueeen In reply to InkAntigen [2007-09-27 16:19:20 +0000 UTC]

you're very welcome and thanks for being willing to give it a shot

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JenBroomall [2007-09-11 15:26:33 +0000 UTC]

I miss the group crits I had in college--we would present, the teacher would crit, & then the students had the floor. It was a fantastic learning experience & I personaly LOVE crits on my work! I view them as helpful & sometimes challenging but they are all made for me to improve.
I've had professors rip up my artwork in my face--a very hard thing to overcome trust me! & my own aunt--an art professor in NH also dispizes anime/manga works but she'll give me constructive crit even though she hates the genre.
Though I must confess, when I read most crits on DA I notice the people giving them don't have "that great" of work themselves... That's somewhat harsh but I agree I would take a crit by someone who's work I respect over someone who's works look like they belong in scraps. Ouch, my apologies--I know that stung.
For me, I don't really crit unless I have something both good & bad to say. If I don't like something, here's the kicker: I stop looking @ it. & I hardly crit b/c I'm not a high-level artist. Instead, I like giving suggestions & brainstorming with the artist. Sometimes I get a response, most of the time I don't but I like thinking up ideas.
Well, that's all I have to say about that...

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GoblinQueeen In reply to JenBroomall [2007-09-12 06:10:01 +0000 UTC]

That's the true trick of it. There aren't any black&white answers, just trying to use your best jugement in each individual situation

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blammogirl [2007-09-11 11:19:38 +0000 UTC]

Not only is this helpful for critiquing, but for keeping in mind when I'm creating a new piece, as I tend to just wing it. Lately I've been trying to focus on actual art therory. Thank-you for writing this!

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GoblinQueeen In reply to blammogirl [2007-09-12 06:01:53 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for taking the time to read it, glad you found it useful

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bromstrom [2007-09-09 18:38:52 +0000 UTC]

Useful

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dictatorofrandomosia [2007-09-07 21:24:58 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much for making this. I can never critique, only say 'HOORAY, you're AWESOME! 8D' Of course, this might partially be because I hate recieving critique myself(I know it's not criticizing, it just makes me immediately start nitpicking and hating what's being critiqued)...
Faving because
a) this was a genius thing to make a tutorial for,
b) it was a very good tutorial and extremely well-written,
c) I need future reference, and
d) others who need to see it might notice it in my favs.
And congratulations for the DD.

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GoblinQueeen In reply to dictatorofrandomosia [2007-09-08 17:49:48 +0000 UTC]

Goodness, well, I'm very glad you were able to get so much from it, happy to be of help

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Amaipetisu [2007-09-05 17:28:05 +0000 UTC]

Excellent tips!

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MissCassidy [2007-08-31 11:42:19 +0000 UTC]

This is so useful.

Thanks for posting it.

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youlootamax [2007-08-19 22:49:14 +0000 UTC]

Dude, I saw this when you first posted it, but I never actually -read- it until now, but I wish I had read it sooner. All of the tips you've mentioned are things I already discovered on my own, but I would have known them much much sooner had I decided to read this *slaps forehead*

I think I'm going to link to this in my journal if that's alright with you, and maybe some of my watchers will take a look at it~
I've had problems with people doing almost everything that you've mentioned -not- to do in this guide, and it bothers me so much O_O I try not to let it bother me, so I just dismiss what they've said, and this is from experienced and inexperienced artists alike. But it's like you said, it really makes me not want to listen to them at all even if they do make some valid points :/ I've even had it where I asked someone for an art trade, and I was really polite about it. They reply, and all they did was beat up my work. I didn't ask for a critique or anything and this was the second time I've had someone do this after asking for an art trade of all things, when they had their art trades -open- O_o And it's not like they said in their journal saying the art trades were open that they only wanted people who drew like them asking for art trades. I was very very tempted to say something in return because I was so angry, but because I like to be polite, I thanked them for their time, and moved on. Had it been someone else they did that to, I have a feeling they might have just set themselves up for a really nasty argument :/ Which is why it's always best to be as polite as you can, as you never know how someone will react if you're just downright rude, and especially on someone's style just because it's different than your own.

Once again, I love the guide~ I'm going to go post a link in my journal right now

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Nebelstern [2007-07-21 20:58:43 +0000 UTC]

well, that's a very optimistic, or rather naive point of view.
imho, for most people the main goal of critique is not to
"help the artist" but to make themself feel better by discouraging
the artist. very, - no - extremly few people know the art of
honest, yet polite and constructive critique.
most people just think " hokay, lemme give this n00b a piece of mind! "
when they do critique. or " i am mr.whippersnapper and a know-all art critic and everyone has to draw just to please MY personal taste. " i hate that.

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sammi-antha [2007-07-12 10:20:04 +0000 UTC]

Really well put together and nicely written. It's also really helpful which is a definite bonus!
Thanks for this

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TalentHaven In reply to ??? [2007-06-28 16:27:28 +0000 UTC]

Hi there. I've linked to this tutorial on my club's tutorial list: [link]

This list is to help the club's members find good tutorials easier. If you'd prefer it not to be listed there please note the club and it will be removed asap.

Thanks for writing such a great tutorial.

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YoukaiLaurana [2007-06-26 20:31:08 +0000 UTC]

This was extremely helpful.
I have been guilty of throwing my art teachings out the window when commenting, because I thought that they didn't relate. Stuff like 'balance', 'theme', 'depth' and 'rhythm' belonged in Art 101, and wasn't useful anywhere else. Or so I thought.

Your post shows that this is not the case. You've opened another window for me!
I'll keep these points in mind when I comment someone. <3

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PearlHeart [2007-06-22 19:48:44 +0000 UTC]

I Think eveyone should see this before they start commenting and critiquing on other piece of work... Most meaningful piece of work i've seen for a while

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becomethecannon [2007-06-14 17:55:24 +0000 UTC]

This is great. I've never thought about it this way. I usually refrain from critiquing peoples stuff, if they ask then yeah. But I think usually people are just having fun. I don't think it needs to be taken to heart, but sometimes people can be very harsh and usually do more damage than help. Thanks for taking the time to write this.

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MissingHorcrux [2007-06-05 03:35:59 +0000 UTC]

You've inspired me to write better comments.

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argentum-moon In reply to ??? [2007-06-03 11:25:41 +0000 UTC]

Very useful, thanks a lot for making this!
Usually I don't know what to say in my comment, just "nice" or "cool" seems so useless, but it's difficult to know waht is accepted as critique and what is considered insulting...
Thanks again!

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GoblinQueeen In reply to argentum-moon [2007-06-03 17:41:38 +0000 UTC]

No problem, thank you for taking the time to read all of it and glad it seems useful

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Marji4x In reply to ??? [2007-05-17 15:54:52 +0000 UTC]

What a great idea! I'm coming back to look this more carefully later tonight but for now, may I add something?

The great C. S. Lewis, an avid enjoyer of science fiction and fantasy, cautioned against lending your critiques to any work you found dull, boring, or uninteresting based on your tastes.

I think this applies to art as much as to fiction. If you don't like manga, for instance, are you really fit to critique it? (Or any genre) Is it possible to be careful enough to press down your own feelings and separate them from a neutral critique?

I actually think it is possible for some people. But they are few and far between on DA.

It's something for every critique-er to think about before speaking, at any rate, I think.

Just an addendum to that general "if you don't like it it's not necesarily bad" theme you have.

Thanks for writing this up, I think it's fantastic and everyone should consider these things before speaking on art


~marji

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saino In reply to ??? [2007-05-07 13:48:47 +0000 UTC]

Good thing I read this. I want to critique my own art because I know there's something wrong with it, but I somehow can't grasp the idea why. This somehow helped me with doing art as well as giving an artist a good critique. X3 It was nice of you to post something like this. O_______o

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kasF [2007-04-30 16:30:07 +0000 UTC]

Very well written. I totally agree with what you're saying. I think that too many people are caught up in styles to get down to the composition itself. Like you stated earlier, it is the subjective nature of art.

Gah. I'm just restating what you said, but once again thanks for this. Many people should read it and I'm glad I've peeped this as well.

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sleepingcloud11 In reply to ??? [2007-04-28 20:50:55 +0000 UTC]

You know what, I am soooo happy there are people like you!
I get both good and bad critiques and I know most people are just being technical, but they way they present it is very rude.

I also learned that you have to view things from a very neurtral perspective an d realized how hard they worked on the piece. In addition, when I give a critique I usually point out how great they did because unless they say it was a 3 second drawing, I assume they tried their best on what ever they do. There is no doubt that everyone can always improve because its true (even for me). So I comment first on what i notice is most beautiful because there is always some beauty in everything. Secondly, I try to be specific on what they can change and try to clarify it. I dont say its manditory but its always something to take into consideration when they want to improve. My friend, who i probably critique more than others (because she really listens) always says thank you in the end and actually changes the drawing in which it ends up even better than before.

I am not saying that I am the best drawer in the world. Lets be honest, there is always someone way better and I try to be humble, but at the same time, I don't want someone to keep on repeating the same mistakes and its always good to give someone some slack by giving some good advice^^- If you suffer, why do you have to make others suffer as well. I say use your wisdom wisely and in a proper manner and you will be respected!

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Ehryn [2007-04-20 18:26:52 +0000 UTC]

I have HAD to fave this!
My work is made of suck at the moment and as such no-one wants to give me the time to critique it... perhaps it's because I don't mention in my description that I want it... ¬_¬ Meh... Either way! This is awesome because it means that I can recognize good critique from bad and, also, hopefully seeing it in my faves will encourage people to critique! ^_^
Thanks for taking the time to write it out! ^_^

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ang3ll In reply to ??? [2007-04-20 16:09:15 +0000 UTC]

useful and clean tutorial! You made a good explanation and approached this subject very well.

... but... and when we don't have the vocabulary needed (i'm portuguese ) though we know what we want to say?... I sense that sometimes i could comment in a better way if i just knew some more expressions ;__;

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Mel-P In reply to ??? [2007-04-19 19:09:37 +0000 UTC]

WHEE! *faves* The idiots who crit me should see this. >_>; They always whine about my style or want me to show nonexistent art school work. Or assume I won't get published cause -they- don't think it's up to standards. Which is why I only accept crit from people that matter like the publishers themselves. Another dude accused me of stealing for using SCREENTONES (that I bought) whee XD;

I wish they'd listen to the 'critique not desired' thing. Then they wonder why I slap them for saying their part. "she never accepts negative critique!" no I just don't accept -theirs- damn moo-cows.

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Tencia In reply to ??? [2007-04-14 11:41:52 +0000 UTC]

I found myself agreeing with most of what you've written and I think it would be nice to thank you for your hard work, which, I hope, will pay off in people realizing what mistakes they were making.

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GoblinQueeen In reply to Tencia [2007-04-14 16:01:36 +0000 UTC]

Well and that's just it, sometimes people don't even realize that they might be approaching something wrong. They really do have the best of intentions, so my goal was to let those good intentions come through a bit more Thanks for taking the time to read

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daPhyre [2007-04-12 02:01:47 +0000 UTC]

Wo! Really cool and useful. Thanks really ^^

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GoblinQueeen In reply to daPhyre [2007-04-12 05:44:03 +0000 UTC]

Glad you find it so

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PrincessTikal In reply to ??? [2007-04-06 05:46:49 +0000 UTC]

this is very useful, great job working on it

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guardianangellita In reply to ??? [2007-04-05 19:19:07 +0000 UTC]

I'm so glad I read this piece, makes me look at critiques in a new way.

I was getting mauled constantly by a critic of mine in a separate gallery, making me feel bad and terribly upset that I wouldn't touch a drawing for days, and I guess reading this made me realize s/he was doing wrong, as s/he only pointed out the bad things, grinding them into me and never once told me what was good in the piece.

Thank you so much for the wonderfully deep insight!

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GoblinQueeen In reply to guardianangellita [2007-04-10 06:36:47 +0000 UTC]

Well, and that's one reason why I won't go into heavy critique unless people ask specifically for it. Yes, critiques do help us to grow if done right, but by that same token, there are reasons and times you may not want that speculation. I know there are people that feel it their duty to 'enlighten' others at every possible opportunity, but if they are not considering the person they are trying to help, then they are doing it for themselves only and that's not the right reason. Or at least, that's how I see it, I know there are other opinions out there, too

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guardianangellita In reply to GoblinQueeen [2007-04-10 19:10:41 +0000 UTC]

thanks

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Kisah-san [2007-04-05 00:45:46 +0000 UTC]

hey, i saw your text translated by =tiggerfactory and decided to pass here to say thank you! this really helped me with critiques ^_^
I guess we (artists) want receive good critiques, and also give good ones, but sometimes it's difficult because some of us have lack of knowledge (like me xP but now I'm taking care of this problem X3~)
thanks again for sharing your knowledge with us

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GoblinQueeen In reply to Kisah-san [2007-04-10 06:38:37 +0000 UTC]

You are most welcome, I'm happy to have helped in any small way

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MarcelPerez In reply to ??? [2007-03-28 16:58:08 +0000 UTC]

Good job. I totally agree on the tips and critique system you expose here. You know, I'm one of those amateurs who want to boost their abiliteis to break into professional ground, and I'm always searching for good constructive critic (and try to give it to the others myself). So it's nice to see someone cares about telling people some tips about commenting propertly.
You exposed it very correctly and clearly, I really think it's a very useful guide.

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