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Graphospasm — 10 Things People Say to Writers (but shouldn't)

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Description General: These questions and comments come from a rather frustrating family reunion I recently attended. I have been on the receiving end of each of these statements at least once, if not many times more.

DISCLAIMER: I’m not saying that the questions/comments above should NEVER EVER EVER be asked of/said to a creative writer; some of them (#s6, 10) have their definite place and time. Some of them (#s 1, 2, 3, 9) do not. It also depends on how well you know the writer and how open they are about their work. I also recognize that when comments like these are made, they are not typically meant to injure.

Also: I drew up this list after seeing a similar list aimed at things you are not supposed to say to visual artists, so I can’t say the format of this list (or the concept of “things you don’t say” lists) is terribly original. Just figured I’d disclaim my inspiration!

PITHY RESPONSES (from me):
#1— Yes, I’m still writing my “little” book. No, my work is not less important or less gratifying than your “real” job. No, I will not be giving up my dreams for a “real” job anytime soon. Thank you.

#2—Must be nice not taking my work seriously.

#3—The amount of hair I’ve torn out while writing my novel would suggest otherwise.

#4— I would sell my soul to be able to write books in my spare time, you ignorant hick.

#5— My creative writing degree is from an accredited university and/or college. Thank you.

#6—If YES: “Oh god, you haven’t heard of me, I’m a failure!” If NO: “Oh god, I haven’t been published yet, I’m a failure!”

#7—No.

#8—Use it in your own book, please.

#9—No comment.

#10—Firstly: I can and will talk for ten hours straight on the subject of my book so don’t go there unless you’re actually interested. Secondly: Don’t start telling me how much you think my story sounds like that one book your cousin told you about six months ago after only six seconds of explanation. Thirdly: I have no intention of making use of your “helpful tips.” Fourthly: If you steal my plot I swear to the dearly departed ghost of Ray Bradbury that I WILL HUNT YOU DOWN AND GUT YOU LIKE A FISH.

SINCERE EXPLANATIONS (from me):
#1—My book project isn’t a “little” thing to me. Please don’t patronize my work. I followed my passions and I love what I do. Creative work is just as legitimate as technical work. After all, somebody had to WRITE the script of your favorite TV show, the one you come home and watch to de-stress after a hard day working at your "real" job.

#2—My job comes with all the demands of a “real” job. Deadlines, time crunches, pleasing coworkers and superiors (editors, agents, publishers), dealing with fallout/backlash from consumers, and eyestrain from staring too long at a computer screen. Also carpal tunnel and a sore neck. That’ll kill ya dead.

#3—Writing is extremely difficult. If it wasn’t, everyone would have a book published and publishers wouldn’t reject thousands of manuscripts a year. There’s also an immense drain on the self when you write; creativity is not, as some assume, an easily tapped substance.

#4—Again: If I could write a good novel in my spare time, I’d be filthy rich. I wouldn’t be laboring over a project for years on end. Writing takes time and dedication, not a few weekends and on a whim.

#5—Creative Writing degrees are indeed real; I’m a year away from getting mine and I plan on doing quite a lot with it. There are, perhaps surprisingly for some of you, many ways to use a CW degree! Fun Fact: Many of us go into law.

#6—This is (usually) a perfectly innocent inquiry, but writers (like all artists) seem to be particularly prone to self-doubt. Self-esteem is a fragile thing. Not being published can be a big deal to a writer who hasn't caught their break yet, and if you haven’t heard of us and we ARE published… well. Whoops.

#7—Unless my work is nonfiction, I don’t base characters on real people. Characters should and do take on lives of their own; branding them as “COMPLETELY BASED ON PERSON #464” limits their natural ability to grow and change in the context of their story. Taking some inspiration from real life is wonderful, but I will never base a fictional character completely on a friend or family member. Besides: Imagine if someone you base a character on were to complain that they aren’t “pretty enough” or something. It’s hard enough to write creative nonfiction and not offend people without adding fictional characters into the mix—because in a fictional character you can eliminate flaws or other character devices your model deems unfit to be a part of their portrayal, which ruins the authenticity of the character. It's like when an artist paints a portrait of a picky customer who wants all their perfections erased, even if that means the end result won't look a damn thing like them.

#8—If you have an idea, go write it down. Your ideas do not fit into my story. You are trying to change my story into a story of your own, a DIFFERENT story, the story you think my story should be—but my story is mine, not yours. Write what you want to read. Don’t expect me to do it for you.

#9—I have met several people who’ve asked “Aren’t novelists just professional liars?” Their logic is that liars tell stories, novelists tell stories, and therefore novelists are just liars who get publicity. I’ve also had people say that I must be an excellent liar as a direct result of being a writer, and that they don’t trust me on instinct since I “must be really really good at lying to people" since my “job is all about making stuff up.” I imagine some actors must get this as well. “Are you being sincere or are you just playing a part?”

#10—I can talk about my novel for hours on end, but I can tell that some people get bored within five seconds and were only asking about my work to be polite. Tip for Writers: Prepare a very short description of your work to recite when asked about your projects (think of it as practice for writing the back of your book jacket!). If a person truly wants to know more, they’ll make specific inquiries. Furthermore, sometimes my nonfiction work can be highly personal; I don’t feel it’s appropriate to discuss such stories when asked after by strangers. And then there are always those people who steal ideas... I recently confided a story idea to someone only to have one of their works suspiciously resemble my proposed idea. It was an absolutely devastating experience.
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Comments: 43

Cyanidebaby8 [2018-08-24 23:40:14 +0000 UTC]

I hate the line that people say in the comment section on wattpad, quotev, etc “You should write a book”,

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scathas [2017-11-22 10:00:09 +0000 UTC]

So fcking true ^^
#10 happens to me a lot and I never understood, why they ask what the story is and not if they are allowed to read it

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Purplecloud101 [2016-12-31 02:32:29 +0000 UTC]

"what's the book about?"

//Insert me talking for 3 days/

"Can you write a romance story for me?"

//Strums guitar/ no

"So it's about... Dragons?"

diD YOU EVEN PAY ATTENTION-

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TheCozyAuthor [2016-12-21 04:14:43 +0000 UTC]

YESS

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keelen6 [2014-04-29 03:56:10 +0000 UTC]

OMG I get #10 a LOT

I just start talking about it til they get bored and walk away.  ABILITY TO TALK EXPOSITION FOR HOURS FTW!

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ReyRay [2014-03-15 20:45:38 +0000 UTC]

This is so, so very true. Even for people who don't write professionally! Some people have asked number seven to me before. I just sort of cocked my head and said something along the lines of "I actually take my book seriously, believe it or not."

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MorzansElvenDaughter [2013-11-30 02:52:15 +0000 UTC]

Those of us in acting do encounter #9 quite often.

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Graphospasm In reply to MorzansElvenDaughter [2013-11-30 05:33:21 +0000 UTC]

Totally!

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ChrissietheArchen [2013-09-17 09:49:59 +0000 UTC]

1. if someone asked me that... I'd just say it isn't 'little', it could be as big as Harry Potter. And you know those little stories, taking me somewhere. 

2. if they said- I would just say imagine writing 1000 words after a part time job and school (later in life, like 1 year). Not to mention editing until sunrise! 6 hours editing straight. I call that a job. 

3. Okay then, you try writing a 100 page book between school assignments and social time. 

4. You do that. 

5. You can go to uni for cheesemaking, don't see me wide eyed and amazed. 

6. self published, getting there. ;3

7. No... it's too hard to make a character like you. To make you in a story. But you don't know, if you look hard enough some characteristics of you might be in a few characters. (to close friends)

8. Cool story. Feel free to give me loose ideas. 

9. I'd much rather be lying by telling people a amazing world in which their actions can fix then tell the truth that can tear them apart. The world pretty deadly and crazy place. So why not let people escape from it? Through beautiful descriptive lies. 

10. In a nutshell (insert quick confusing storyline here). Did you get any of that?

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art-herper [2013-07-06 18:18:08 +0000 UTC]

every now and then one of my teachers would see me writing and asked me if it was for a nother class and im like No. there like oh, ok.

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art-herper [2013-07-06 16:51:18 +0000 UTC]

yep if you ask to be in my story ussually i put you in and you wont like it

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GrayToneSkies In reply to art-herper [2015-09-10 21:36:43 +0000 UTC]

When someone gets put in my story, I make sure to change the physical appearance and name... and then brutally have them murdered and/or completely destroyed. Heheh.

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whimandwonder [2013-03-10 01:26:22 +0000 UTC]

#2 is funny, because writing a novel takes waaaay more work/effort/labor/bloodsweatandtears than a lot of jobs do.

#9 is the weirdest thing I've ever heard. First of all: UM, RUDE. Second of all: WHAT kind of logic is that?? I wonder if they ask that of actors too.

#6 is a valid but very hard-to-take question, because as soon as you answer "No" they're kind of like, "... Oh." Like they're disappointed. It's totally understandable that they'd be curious, because maybe you HAVE, who knows, but when you have to answer No and they look at you like "Oh well what's the point then", it just... sucks.

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Graphospasm In reply to whimandwonder [2013-03-10 02:02:00 +0000 UTC]

On #2--Exactly! People totally underestimate how hard it is to write ANYTHING, but less a full length novel.

On #9--They do indeed ask that of actors too. Usually what happens is I tell someone something that happened to me and they say, "How can I trust you? You make up stuff for a living." Ugh.

On #6--It's a boobytrapped question. Most of the time people are just asking because they're curious, but when you say "no" and they get that disappointed look... not cool.

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whimandwonder In reply to Graphospasm [2013-03-10 18:13:29 +0000 UTC]

I think #9 applies to ANY creative field though. I'm a writer so I get asked the publishing question. I'm an artist so I get asked if I've been shown in a gallery. (That is NOT my goal.) I majored in dance in college so I get asked if I've been in professional companies. (Way to remind me that I suck, lol.) I know they're just curious, but if they're REALLY just curious, then why are they so disappointed?

Oh well!

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Graphospasm In reply to whimandwonder [2013-03-10 18:38:08 +0000 UTC]

Very good and valid point! It's one thing to be curious, but it's another thing entirely to be critical of someone who hasn't gotten to the publishing stage yet.

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TheTimeVortex [2013-03-09 20:54:04 +0000 UTC]

Ugg. I KNOW! i hate when people ask these things or say these things. annoying as hell.

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obako-chan97 [2012-12-24 06:46:50 +0000 UTC]

Frustrating. Indeed.

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IPreferLemonPie [2012-11-14 03:28:09 +0000 UTC]

Happens to me. Happens to me. Happens to me. Only that I'm still in school so not all of those thins happen to me.
But when someone goes like "can I be a character in your book" I go: "Already in there, you're the asshole everyone wants to kill"... That usually throws them off. And when they say about the idea thingy: "Why don't you write it down and I'll put it next to the things I'll never write? "
About 9. "Aren't actors professional liars too, then? After all, they act fake people and say things they don't mean."

10. I can spend a day if necessary. Lmao. Don't go there unless you're prepared.

3. Oh no, it isn't, at all. Of course not. Not at all... *Grabs knife, stabs person repeatedly while repeating "it's not*.

1. Oh no, I stopped writing them a long time ago, they write me now.
Person: WUTT. Me: Yes.

4. Wished I had free time...
And etc, etc. lmao.

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crocodilerocker [2012-09-11 22:36:31 +0000 UTC]

I agree completely and I love this!

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Desuke-Love [2012-08-26 00:57:18 +0000 UTC]

Ergh, I hate it when people patronize me like that -_- I just feel like yelling 'I'd like to see you write a friggin novel whilst studying to get a degree and holding down a part time job and somehow still having a social life!'

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Procrastilove [2012-07-27 04:35:44 +0000 UTC]

As a new CW major myself (I'm already halfway done with college, and switched career paths over from premed), I've got to say it was a little difficult finding it in myself to tell my family that this was what I wanted to do with my life. I love making my own characters and creating storylines, but with all the science and mathematics I was taking I stopped drawing, writing, and making things. Premed was sucking out my soul. Luckily, my family didn't take it too hard and my dad says he'll always love me even if "I want to be poor" >_> These little jibes still come up every so often though, and I completely agree with your reactions to all of the ones you've listed.

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Flyingpanzyking [2012-06-24 02:23:15 +0000 UTC]

Every author I've ever talked to said not to waste the time and money it takes to earn a college degree on creative writing. I've taken a few creative writing courses in college and only one was really worth it. You say you're a year away from graduating? How has it been? The advice was even given to us by our creative writing professor so I'm wondering what your experience has been.

To sum up what most of them have said:
Unless you plan on teaching you don't need a degree to write, and the time and energy needed to get a four year degree could be better spent on something more likely to pay itself off. Also just about every successful writer started off doing something else.

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Graphospasm In reply to Flyingpanzyking [2012-06-24 03:58:01 +0000 UTC]

I have benefited greatly from my experience in the CW program. I know I would never have been published had it not been for the advice, criticism, and support of both my peers and my professors. Because I pursued this degree, I have been taught by published authors with decades of writing, publishing, and teaching experience. I have become submerged in an environment that fosters a reverence for the creative. I'm surrounded by the like-minded and have no end of connections to the writing world. As consequence, my love for the craft of writing has sharpened even as my craft has drastically improved (seriously, compare my writing from year to year, even from class to class, and you can read the difference). I consider my forthcoming degree as the most valuable achievement of my life. I would not trade my educational path for anything, just as I am sure my fellow CW students would not trade theirs.

Funnily enough, many CW students end up going into law. CW degrees are actually quite handy and well-received by law schools, at least the ones I have spoken with. They are also extremely valued by the business sector. CW and English majors are often hired (with fat compensation checks) to teach writing courses sponsored by major corporations in order to improve the writing ability of their employees. Then there are the worlds of television, journalism, business writing, editing/publishing, and, as you mentioned, teaching. CW degrees have a habit of "paying themselves off"--just not in ways most people expect. I think many CW majors go to colleges that don't help them find those unexpected roads, or are just unwilling to do anything other than write novels for a living. Thus, they never look for the other opportunities a CW major might afford them, and come away with the mistaken notion that their degree is useless. Most outsiders seem to share this opinion.

While it is true that many famous writers didn't major in writing and started out in vastly different arenas of thought, it's also true that many of those same famous writers were not as polished as they appear on paper before their work was retooled by an educated editor. Some of them were practically unreadable until an editor saw the gem lurking beneath the dirt and helped them bring it into full shine. Maxwell Perkins functions as a prime example of the value of an editor educated in the ways of writing.

Anyway, thanks for your opinion. I was told by my highschool teachers not to go for a CW degree, but as soon as I talked to a CW professor at the college level I knew CW was the route for me. I can't see myself doing anything else.

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WonHitWonder [2012-06-23 08:26:18 +0000 UTC]

I hate #7, #8, and #10 the most XP

And sorry about the person who "borrowed" your idea, that's awful

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Graphospasm In reply to WonHitWonder [2012-06-24 04:09:10 +0000 UTC]

It's OK! It's happened more than once, but luckily never with stories or story-elements that I have poured my soul into. Usually it's little things that I probably didn't know someone else had used a million miles away, haha. The big stuff is safe.

7 & 8 are the worst!!!

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WonHitWonder In reply to Graphospasm [2012-06-24 17:13:07 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, when other people try to write the story for you. Sometimes friends will make up stories for characters that I've drawn, ad it really makes me mad. Even worse is when it's a good one or one I was already using, and now I can't use it or they'll say "Hey! You copied me!"

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Silverstar1311 [2012-06-21 00:01:54 +0000 UTC]

My answer for #3 is. "You try it then."

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Graphospasm In reply to Silverstar1311 [2012-06-21 05:45:35 +0000 UTC]

Good answer!

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HieizRenryu [2012-06-10 02:36:49 +0000 UTC]

Nice going! This is great! I hear a lot of that, and it all pisses me off.

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sures1109 [2012-06-09 19:42:40 +0000 UTC]

#3 i hear all the time! i just answer with something along the lines of "you have no idea" or "really? why don't you try then?"

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PyroNinja999 [2012-06-09 17:46:53 +0000 UTC]

I LOVE YOU FOR THIS. Especially the pithy answers. XD If I decide to work towards a creative writing degree (one of four or five I'm considering), I have a feeling I'll be using those quite a bit.

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DraconisZodiark [2012-06-09 12:31:05 +0000 UTC]

I like your pithy answers

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rinrei [2012-06-09 09:02:31 +0000 UTC]

I've come across my fair share of these on my accounts. I try to ignore the ones about lying and spare time.

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rebelnijamaster [2012-06-09 05:12:06 +0000 UTC]

Haha! This is great!

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Graphospasm In reply to rebelnijamaster [2012-06-09 05:13:06 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!

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Scairdcrow [2012-06-09 05:11:47 +0000 UTC]

Why can't you just lighten up and not care or respond to what others have to say if it's negative.

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Graphospasm In reply to Scairdcrow [2012-06-09 05:12:50 +0000 UTC]

I do typically laugh off such comments; most are not meant to be negative. I merely thought a list might be fun and informative. Seeing from another perspective is never a bad thing.

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Scairdcrow In reply to Graphospasm [2012-06-09 05:17:55 +0000 UTC]

Indeed it isn't -- I often like to indulge in doing so.

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Graphospasm In reply to Scairdcrow [2012-06-09 05:19:52 +0000 UTC]

Well then, wonderful for you!

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Scairdcrow In reply to Graphospasm [2012-06-09 05:22:53 +0000 UTC]

You being sarcastic?

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Graphospasm In reply to Scairdcrow [2012-06-09 14:01:21 +0000 UTC]

No.

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Scairdcrow In reply to Graphospasm [2012-06-09 14:58:42 +0000 UTC]

Ah, okay.

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