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Published: 2008-09-19 19:49:09 +0000 UTC; Views: 18642; Favourites: 1100; Downloads: 146
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i dont support it because i almost tried it! i had inspiration for this stamp from this news article here news.deviantart.com/article/57...read it! it's very powerful, and very moving! it had me in tears by the time i had finished commenting on it! and the comment you can find right here and all the replies to it. comments.deviantart.com/2/5787...
let me know if you use it! so i can see it in action!!
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Oh my god. you people realize that the artist doesn't get to choose what get's a DD. i still have no clue what so ever of why this was chosen as a DD so stop discussing it here. if you dont like it. tell the proper people you can find it here FAQ #873: What do I do when I disapprove of a Daily Deviation feature?
and as for "lumping cutting and suicide together", what can i say... i'm sorry. i'm not going to change it now, and at the time it was what was going through my mind.
for the people who are saying stuff about how cutting can be good. well. i wont lie, my best friend used to cut. she did it to relieve stress. but from my personal standpoint, i know it isn't healthy, and it is something i am very glad i never did.
and if i was refering to assisted suicide i would have put that so please stop using that as an argument as well. i was talking about self suicide. like slitting your wrists or hanging yourself and so on.
any other haters out there... well i'm sorry you feel that way i am not here to change your feelings however.
******UPDATE******
I just uploaded an apology deviation. I feel it's necessary
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and you know what. that is fully up to you to cut. but, one, it's not for me, and, two, it's really really unhealthy!
i am assuming that you are Emo from what you said. How about you truly define what it means to be Emo for me. because it was my understand that the word Emo came from the word Emotional. thus being Emo meant that you were a person who was Emotional.
so what exactly is Emo?
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Not for you? Great, don't do it, but why upload a stamp condemning it? I abhor everything about alcohol and it's users, but i dont make a bleeping DD out of it.
And i also should've known that sarcasm doesn't transfer too well via IP/TCP.
I'm not emo, but merely mocking the trend/culture, which while being quite cute also gets tedious when too many shitteens are overdoing it. Maybe it started out as 'emotional', but as for now it's more of 'whiny'.
I'm not emo. I've been in the cutting business before i knew what is emo, before i knew what is the bleeping internet, and before it was as fashionable as square glasses.
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i'm sorry that you think that I made this a DD. FAQ #873: What do I do when I disapprove of a Daily Deviation feature? that is if you abhor it.
sarcasm is truly hard to transfer on the net. isn't it.
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Very well, i shall go and leave puddles of disapproval somewhere else.
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""in my eyes... cutting leads to suicide or attempting it.""
And I know for a fact that you see it wrong. Depression, PSD, Borderline... can lead to cutting - or self-harm, as a broader term - as well as suicide. But self-harm is definitely *not* a 'gateway'.
There are people who attempt or succeed at suicide who never even once thought about self-harm. There are people who desperatly harm themselfs to stay alive. There are people who fail at this.
Physical pain is an effective means to snap out of a (dissociative) mindset, that's why PSD patients often use self-harm to keep from drifting away in a flashback. In addition to that, self-harm is a way to deal with emotions that are just too overwhelming and painful, like self-hatred, anger, disappointment, confusion, fear...
You can't say to someone 'Just stop cutting'. For most people that's like saying 'Just stop breathing'. In order to stop self-harm, you have to treat the underlying disorder. You have to solve the problems that lead to self-harm. You have to help the patient to find other ways to deal with overwhelming emotions and painful thoughts.
Self-harm can't 'just go away' because it serves an important cause: To stay alive.
And to all those out there who use self-harm as fashion accessory: Do you have any idea how much damage you cause? Because of you stupid assholes people like me aren't taken seriously! Do you have any idea how important it is for people with self-harm issues to be taken seriously? To be accepted? Not to hear: 'Just stop it.'
How about you run around and fake heart attacks for sympathy. Or epileptic seizures. Or how about telling people you are HIV positive. Or that you have cancer. Wouldn't that be cool, too?
Srsly, you make me sick.
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As a recovering self-injurer (cutting, self abraision and burning with acid), I know for a fact that YES, there are other ways to stay alive. You just have to be willing to look for them.
Furthermore, it's people with your mentallity who trigger people who are trying to recover into relapsing. Just because you don't want to get help, it doesn't mean that you have the right make claims about all self-injurers.
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I don't exactly remember what I wrote, but of this I am sure: You misunderstand me.
I'm quite positive that I never said that there absolutely never are other ways to survive, and that I never suggested not looking for them or not trying to use these other ways everytime.
I much more likely mentioned that there *can* be situations in which these other ways don't work, and that I demand respect for the decision to use self-injury in a conscious, responsible way to deal with these situations.
I've been fighting the urge to self-injure on and off for the past six years and I'm withstanding it for +12 months now. So, obviously I am using other ways to deal with feelings and situations, and I'm rather successful. But if I ever relapse it will be for a damn good reason and I will not beat myself up for that, nor will I grant anyone the right to beat me up or make me feel like even more of a failure.
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and while all that may be true... there are still better ways to do it. other then self-harm. it's unhealthy, and dangerous.
and is that "you make me sick" directed at me, or at the "stupid assholes" you were talking too?
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Of course there are better ways! And, by all means, we have to try to find some that work for us. But there are times when self-harm is the only way. That's part of the illness. That's why it's a symptom and not a 'bad habit'.
The 'you make me sick' was directed at people who cut themself as a fashion statement.
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i am understanding now...
and whew! good i hope i dont make people sick!
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Well said, I wouldn't have even noticed this obvious discrepancy if it wasn't for you...I don't think that cutting is a taboo anymore though, people on DA do like to make a fuss out of it though so their work sounds deep..
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When people are high-nosed and conservative, many simple things are a taboo, even in the 21th century...abortions, transgenders, democrats...
So yay, someone attempted suicide, seen how horrible it is, and went back to the light side? His problem really.
And if we're here for the discussion, i don't think this stamp is enough of an artwork to be looked at, not mentioning the DD...
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Yeah most DDs are exemplary but if you ever see one that doesn't strike you as great art chances are there is a long story in the description section. I suppose whether or not art is purely visual or mixed with meaning as well is a personal choice, but in this case, any animator could make a stamp which looks as 'good' as this one...
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and the artist never chooses what art goes up in the daily deviations.
and hey did you ever think that, i dont know, i am new at animations?
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I'm not bashing you as an artist, everyone is at their own level and learning. But a DD is supposed to show the cream of what DA has to offer. As you said, you're only new to animation, so there are likely to be a few deviations out there which are better than yours and maybe are more desrving of the top spot. The person who suggested this probably was more attracted to the meaning behind this and message, rather than the pure art. This is fine but a mixture of both is needed.
Finally, don't get me wrong, I know you meant well, and of course it's nice to see someone saying something about suicide, seeing as it is becoming a 'fad' these days, but your downfall was lumping in self harm with it. I meant no offense.
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i'm not offended. and your right. i am still bloody confused on the decision of my work.
meh... i've gotten enough crud bout the lumping thing... i'm over the stress from hearing that... so whatever
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My brother committed suicide. I appreciate this stamp and will use it.
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thank you. and i'm sorry about your brother. i hope you are ok now. death is something hard to live with.
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I do not support this stamp.
everyone is in control of what they do with their own lives.
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yeah... and that's your choice. and it was my choice to put up this stamp. and it was ^PurpelBlur who made the choice to feature it.
why all the hate?
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Or not, like my brother, who was mentally disturbed and committed suicide.
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to escape his mental disturbance.
to deny him this escape because of your own longing to keep him alive is just as selfish as him taking his life in the first place.
I've suffered from chronic depression for years and am currently being treated for it, so I can understand this more than many.
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I attempted suicide as a teenager. I'm on four antidepressants. You're not the only one that understands hurt and depression.
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oh, FOUR antidepressants?
clearly you win this internet debate, my mistake.
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Yes, it was a strong feeling. I understand what you feel, I hate suicide , because I have nearly commited it, too.
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a very strong feeling indeed
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totally support it too 
Great stamp, very touching
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i, luckily, never got to the attempt.
thanks
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good for you then
no prob
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Amazing.
I read the article
going to use your avatar
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dont tell me... tell ~Falln-Avatars
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and thanks!
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Excellent stamp.
Such things are no way to deal with problems. :C
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Suicide is a basic human right. I guess you don't care for human rights.
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A basic human right? So then, you support someone taking their own life and not finding help to deal with the situation? And by taking their own life, causing pain for the ones they loved?
Sorry, I don't see it.
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well, yea its a human right, and do with your life what you want, but most people, "these days" are performing attempts at suicide, e.g. cutting, as attention getters. my friends boyfriend, is a pretty lucky guy based on his life turnout, hes attractive, and hes wealthy, and hes average built but, he acts as if hes depressed, cuz he says he likes the sympathy, his girlfriend tells him to stop, cuz she knows he wants to be noticed, and talked about, and felt sorry for, (this is only one example) he keeps showing her his scars, well more like, scratches because, hes seriously afraid of death. but he fakes this popular "fad" so he can be seen, and frankly, it pisses me off when ppl play with this situation, ive been surrounded by stories of suicide and self inflicted pain, and, while in not so blessed as others have seldomly come near these thoughts/acts of suicide. im not that happy, in general, but i enjoy a large amount of life only because i feel i have too, life is limited, and we should embrace that with laughter and joy, not suspiscion and anger. im not saying, ur not allowed to be depressed, and im not helping you be happy, im reminded most, that problems come and go, but suicide is permanent.
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Tell your friend's boyfriend this:
Do you have any idea how much damage you cause? Because of idiots like you people with real problems aren't taken seriously! Do you have any idea how important it is for people with self-harm issues to be taken seriously? To be accepted? Not to hear: 'Just stop it.'
How about you run around and fake heart attacks for sympathy. Or epileptic seizures. Or how about telling people you are HIV positive. Or that you have cancer. Wouldn't that be cool, too?
""that problems come and go, but suicide is permanent.""
The thing is, when you're planning out your suicide you don't believe that anymore. The suicidal don't see any light at the end of the tunnel, there's only pain and despair. You have to lift up the patient's mood before optimism is possible again. And to do that you need good medication.
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although this is a serious topic i kinda lauged at that last bit about the medication, i wasnt saying that suicide isnt serious, i support the idea that suicide is way serious, sometimes too serious for the positions its been attempted for.
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""i kinda lauged at that last bit about the medication""
Why?
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Congrats to your DD.
Still, for your consideration:
When I saw this stamp, my reaction was a feeling of anger. You don't support cutting and suicide? Now, what about me? I'm a depressed person in recovery; I'm not suicidal anymore but I still practice the cutting that kept me from killing myself (yeah, you read right, I used self-harm to channel the need to destroy myself).
So, your stamp forbids me to even think about those things - that still are such an important part of me and always will be because they are in the history that made me who I am. I know that's not your intention, but this is how it makes me feel: It makes me feel unwanted, devaluated, my mouth better stay shut while you're around because you don't like what I am and you make me feel even worse for being a person who wants to do a bad thing to those who profess to love me.
Whatever happened to loving acceptance? What happened to 'I will not judge you, your feelings, and your thoughts. Tell me about it so I can try to help you.'?
This stamp makes depression feel like a crime.
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thing is... i never said any of that. your putting words in my mouth.
i never said that you couldn't do any of it. i am just saying that I do not support it.
and you really should stop cutting. it's not helping as much as you think.
and trust me, i know what it's like to feel unwanted. I'm transgendered, i fully understand that. most people dont even like the thought of me.
and if i did do that i am very sorry. it was never my intention to do so.
if you ever need to talk about things... just note me... i am online each and every day
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""and if i did do that i am very sorry. it was never my intention to do so.""
I know that. And I explicitly stated in my reply that I know it. I just wanted to bring to your attention that the stamp itself can be misunderstood
Now, thanks for your offer, I appreciate it.
And: More power to you! Ignorance and bigottery are WMDs on so many levels.
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yeah... i know...
and of course and the offer will always stand!
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I very much third this comment. They've said it all.
It's good you don't support them, but to be so against them... I think especially cutting, which is a way to deal with pain and is an act that keeps a lot of people from killing themselves, shouldn't be dealt with in this way.
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I very much second that comment above. It's all nice and sweet to not support suicide (Then again, who does support it anyway, hm?) and share your own story just so other people don't attempt the same stupid thing, but one can't just throw self-killing, suicidal thoughts and self-destructive behaviour, e.g. cutting, in the same bucket and announce them all forbidden. There are complex psychological issues and factors underlying each of those actions and mental states, therefore being told 'not to think about it', really, is completely pointless and may even be harmful.
Especially the cutting part is wrong, since it's obvious you've never actually cut yourself. In most cases it is a mechanism to cope with pain, and not at all a chosen hobby, just like ~LaRouge explains.
I know you meant well, but the form you expressed it is just wrong and even insulting to people who deal with the issues, sorry.
In the meantime, the article linked to is pretty good.
P.S. Technically the stamp is very well made!
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