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Description It is actually rather disgusting that there are some people who are so oblivious and delusional that they would DARE to compare that swine-shit, Barack Obama, to a man of such integrity as Martin Luther King, Jr. There is NO SIMILARITY between these two men. Martin Luther King, Jr. fought and gave his life for truth and equality. Obama is just a immoral arrogant hypocritical low-life back-stabbing boot-licking lying shit stain who has done nothing but deceived, misled, corrupted, and wiped his ass with the Constitutional rights he took an oath to uphold! These men are NOT similar by any stretch of the imagination.

Frankly, if Dr. King was alive today he would probably be disgusted that the first "black president" of the United States was elected not because of his character but because of his skin color...and don't pretend like that isn't the only significant reason he was elected. Often during elections people vote for candidates based upon petty unsound reasoning like political parties and false promises anyway...throw a distraction like race into the mix and people just lose track of everything which is important. Political Parties and ethnic background are not important, the content of a person's character is!
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VentAnger In reply to ??? [2013-11-15 18:29:06 +0000 UTC]

Technically, everyone is mixed race.

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Moonstone27 In reply to VentAnger [2013-11-15 18:51:04 +0000 UTC]

Yeah but we're not the President. And he's being labeled as the first African American President. Its only half right.

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VentAnger In reply to Moonstone27 [2013-11-15 18:57:28 +0000 UTC]

Actually it's zero right.  His father was African, never a U.S. citizen, and his mother was American.  That's not what African-American means by race, not even by half.

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Moonstone27 In reply to VentAnger [2013-11-15 19:37:43 +0000 UTC]

Thats not really the point I'm trying to make. People consider him the first "black" president. He's not he's mixed race, on his mother's side he's got English ancestry, with some German, Swiss, Scottish, Irish, and Welsh ancestry. So if we're gonna get technically he's all of that. And look buddy I dunno if you're trying to start a fight with me (or debate) I don't really wanna. I respect your liking Obama and all. But I don't wanna start something. 

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Quickkiller775 In reply to Moonstone27 [2013-11-15 23:11:04 +0000 UTC]

The nigga is black, goddamn you DevianTartists over-think things.

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Moonstone27 In reply to Quickkiller775 [2013-11-15 23:20:05 +0000 UTC]

I find that word offensive. Fuss at me if you want there's no need for your language

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duberdurm In reply to ??? [2013-11-15 18:05:29 +0000 UTC]

Well said.

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IAmTheUnison In reply to duberdurm [2013-11-16 02:20:41 +0000 UTC]

Thank you.

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VentAnger In reply to ??? [2013-11-15 17:52:50 +0000 UTC]

Just so people are reminded of the latest fiasco: Obama shut down the government instead of accepting a Republican plan to do what he's now admitting he needs to do.

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IAmTheUnison In reply to VentAnger [2013-11-16 02:21:56 +0000 UTC]

The man is perhaps the most pitiful excuse for a president this country has ever had.

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Zetsubou-Ninja In reply to VentAnger [2013-11-15 22:58:09 +0000 UTC]

“So, Imagine that the company you work for held a poll, and asked everyone if they thought it would be a good idea to put a soda machine in the break room. The poll came back, and the majority of your colleagues said “Yes”, indicating that they would like a soda machine. Some said no, but the majority said yes. So, a week later, there’s a soda machine. Now imagine that Bill in accounting voted against the soda machine. He has a strong hatred for caffeinated soft drinks, thinks they are bad you you, whatever. He campaigns throughout the office to get the machine removed. Well, management decides “OK, we’ll ask again” and again, the majority of people say “Yes, lets keep the soda machine.” Bill continues to campaign, and management continues to ask the employees, and every time, the answer is in favor of the soda machine. This happens, lets say… 35 times. Eventually, Bill says “OK, I’M NOT PROCESSING PAYROLL ANYMORE UNTIL THE SODA MACHINE IS REMOVED”, so nobody will get paid unless management removes the machine. What should we do???
Answer: Fire Bill and get someone who will do the fucking job.

Bonus: Bill tells everyone that he was willing to “Negotiate”, to come to a solution where everyone got their payroll checks, but only so long as that negotiation capitulated to his demand to remove the soda machine.

Bill is a fucking jackass.”
— 
Brian Krewson

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VentAnger In reply to Zetsubou-Ninja [2013-11-15 23:13:09 +0000 UTC]

What a pointless anecdote.  What would happen if half the office voted that Bill pay for everyone elses soda?  Half the office are fucking jackasses.  America by and large unanimously agree that Obama's dipshit idea to fix an industry by fining people for not buying into it, and enough of both Republicans and Democrats are finally putting politics aside and pulling it back considerably.  Obama's approval rating is lower than Bush's ever was, and another Democrat won't sit in the executive seat for at least 16 years.

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Zetsubou-Ninja In reply to VentAnger [2013-11-15 23:34:55 +0000 UTC]

anecdote?
yeah. okay. we're done here.

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VentAnger In reply to Zetsubou-Ninja [2013-11-15 23:41:25 +0000 UTC]

Congratulations on getting four words into an opposing argument before your head exploded and all you had left with was a nonsense dismissal.

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Zetsubou-Ninja In reply to VentAnger [2013-11-16 05:25:10 +0000 UTC]

I read what you said. Understood what you were trying to say. But also knew that whatever you have to say is moot, because you only understood the quote as an anecdote and not an analogy, which tells me you do not have the brain cells to be able to even BEGIN to cross analyze two things, which then tells me attempting to educate/argue with you is about as effective as spitting in water. Good day sir.

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VentAnger In reply to Zetsubou-Ninja [2013-11-16 07:10:01 +0000 UTC]

An anecdote doesn't have to be based literally on a historic event, but fine, it's an analogy.  You know how I know you're an idiot?  When you had no argument, you suddenly transformed into an unabiding grammar nazi.  Typical.

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Zetsubou-Ninja In reply to VentAnger [2013-11-16 19:04:38 +0000 UTC]

it's not grammar fool. If you start using words that do not apply to what we are talking about aka using words out of context, I'm going to question your intelligence. 
btw Anecdote is not a synonym for an analogy (you can't use it interchangeably) and it doesn't have to be a historic event, but it is a narrative about a true story. When you say it is a useless anecdote, i'm going to assume you are understanding the quote as an anecdote and NOT as an analogy. If you use your instead of you're idgaf. I'm going to get what you mean based on context clues. Also you never understood the analogy because that is basically what happened. I don't think Obama is the greatest, but my head isn't so far up my ass that I can't see when Republicans are being complete and utter shits. Theres nothing to argue with your response. You never actually responded to the analogy other than to dismiss it and I can't respond to "What would happen if half the office voted that Bill pay for everyone elses soda?  Half the office are fucking jackasses." because that's conjecture, and irrelevant to the analogy because Bill is not a consumer, he's an employee and rl counterpart does not stipulate that Bill be the only one to pay for everyone's sodas. heres something for you to read 
try not hurt yourself www.huffingtonpost.com/galanty…

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VentAnger In reply to Zetsubou-Ninja [2013-11-16 19:12:10 +0000 UTC]

Your analogy is an exercise in stupidity because nobody is being forced to subsidise the soda machine.  If you don't want to buy the soda, you're free not to.  On the other hand, you're forced to buy into your states insurance exchange or be fined.  A fine that can eventually become a lean against your property, and you can even face jailtime.  Is Bob going to go to jail if he just ignores the soda machine?  You're a fucking fool.

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Zetsubou-Ninja In reply to VentAnger [2013-11-16 19:45:02 +0000 UTC]

if you really want to get technical, any extra expenditures in the office have to be paid for somehow, which will eventually come out to some kind of salary deduction from everyone and Bill will then be 'paying' for something he doesn't like.Bob is going to be fired if he doesn't process payroll, and going to jail if he doesn't process the modified payroll for himself.

People living without insurance NOW are living without insurance because they can't afford it to begin with. kff.org/uninsured/fact-sheet/k… The whole point is that is affordable numbnut. You will be paying less than regular insurance thinkprogress.org/health/2013/…

Like anything affordable care act will be a part of your taxes. Don't pay your taxes? You go to jail. Simple. The affordable care act is moot if only a selective amount of people are putting in money for it to actually be affordable. Plus, the amount of uninsured people who are suffering without health care is more of a priority than you seething rage for Obama. www.nytimes.com/2013/09/18/us/…

And even if we change the analogy, so that in this alternate universe Bill would have to buy soda, even if he doesn't drink it, the point still stands. BILL WOULD RATHER NOT BUY A $1.50 CAN OF SODA THAN MAKE SURE EVERYONE CAN GET THE MONEY THEY NEED TO SURVIVE. THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WOULD RATHER DEAL WITH www.theguardian.com/world/2013… AND www.nydailynews.com/news/polit… THAN PASS OBAMACARE.

here's the key point my smart mouthed pseudo-intellectual. Bill is throwing a tantrum while everyone else is being denied the things they need. Republicans were negotiated with but the only way they would concede to pass Obamacare is if they don't pass Obamacare. Republicans threatened to shut down the government till their demands where met. Obama said do it. Republicans had a choice, back down or hold the nation hostage. They hated Obamacare so much, they held the nation hostage. 
also heres some bonus stuff for you  politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/…

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VentAnger In reply to Zetsubou-Ninja [2013-11-16 19:53:25 +0000 UTC]

"You'll be paying less!"  Hate the break it to you dipshit, but Obama lied.  For every person enrolled in the exchange, 40 had their coverage dropped or hiked up to the point of unaffordability.  Obama knows this, the insurance companies know this, the Republicans knew this would happen since the bill was passed, and now only a select few of blithering drooling morons like you still defend it.  Here's the thing, you braindead partisan hack, altruism is a good quality, but it's not an excuse to use government to force redistribution of wealth.  The Republicans said publicly that they would have negotiated to delay the employer and individual mandates for a year, but Obama refused.  Republicans knew exactly the kind of damage the roll out would cause, that damage was caused, and now Obama has finally watched enough MSNBC and read enough New York Times to realize, "OH SHIT I FUCKED UP!" and is now doing what the Republicans suggested.  

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Zetsubou-Ninja In reply to VentAnger [2013-11-16 19:59:00 +0000 UTC]

you responded way too fast for someone who actually read and thought about what I said let alone read the links i provided.
I know what the republicans said. That was the whole irony of the situation child genius. "we would have negotiated..." " we would have negotiated, but Obama refused to meet our negotiation demands so we shut down the government to force him to meet our negotiation demands" thats not negotiating. Congrats. You now have the same thinking power of a sheep. 

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VentAnger In reply to Zetsubou-Ninja [2013-11-16 20:06:20 +0000 UTC]

Yes, Obama refused to even negotiate a one year extension.  What is he doing now, moron?

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Zetsubou-Ninja In reply to VentAnger [2013-11-16 20:38:20 +0000 UTC]

oh now we are getting somewhere. Why did Obama refuse the negotiate a one year extension
*hint* part of the answer has already been stated. Deeper information may require you to take your face away from fox news and google search "how many times has Obamacare been delayed"

i'll give you another hint because I feel bad watching you flail around in your own filth trying to make sense out of the alphabet soup you at last night

read the links

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VentAnger In reply to Zetsubou-Ninja [2013-11-16 21:04:21 +0000 UTC]

What an obnoxious jackass.  I get my information from a variety of sources, and I barely ever watch Fox news, like it even should matter.  It must be relaxing to lean on cliches instead of thinking for yourself, I wouldn't know.  I also wouldn't know what it's like to just hop on google and type in the premise you're hoping to be true, and then copy and paste the links it gives back as if they prove your assertion.  Why make your own arguments when you can read a headline, tell yourself "Oh I'm sure this does my work for me." and when anyone dares to not address the article you didn't read directly, claim they're just "ignoring information" and "operating on rage".  Pathetic, typical, brain dead waste of time. Obama refused the one year extension because it's his "signature achievement" and any significant sign of weakness would be too hard on his ego.

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Zetsubou-Ninja In reply to VentAnger [2013-11-16 21:26:54 +0000 UTC]

"what an obnoxious jackass"
Theres two in the room. 

"Why make your own arguments when you can read a headline, tell yourself "Oh I'm sure this does my work for me." and when anyone dares to not address the article you didn't read directly, claim they're just "ignoring information" and "operating on rage"."

Oh i'm sorry, i didn't know arguments had to be void of proof. This explains everything! Let me walk myself out the door and sign up for the conservative campaign. 
So...i give you information and you ignore that information, then you get upset when i say you are ignoring that information i provided because to acknowledge that ignoring facts makes your argument weaker is too hard on your ego? Pathetic, typical, brain dead waste of time. 

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VentAnger In reply to Zetsubou-Ninja [2013-11-16 21:40:35 +0000 UTC]

For fucks sake, hey, idiot, I knew that information before you linked to it.  I'm not going to jump off to an article and start arguing their points, I'm not in a conversation with them, I'm talking to you.  Instead of hoping some blogger is going to convince people for you, how about you try posting your own points and arguments that aren't absolutely batshit stupid analogies that couldn't apply to the Obamacare situation less if it tried.  Failing that, bow out of the conversation because you're clearly outgunned.

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Zetsubou-Ninja In reply to VentAnger [2013-11-16 22:00:36 +0000 UTC]

oh yes cleeaarrrlllly. The only thing you can argue is how i present my arguments and not my arguements yep.
 look if you know the information it's telling me 2 things
either
1. You're lying
or
2. You like to make up your own statistics. 

I already made my argument, my links are there to back it up. None of the links I provided actually made an argument for me to begin with. they simply stated heres the unemployment rate, heres who was affected by the government shutdown, heres the difference between obamacare and the affordable care act (none), heres who is most uninsured, heres a factcheck on Obamacare. If your only way to be persuaded is for ME to present these arguments then i think you are putting too much importance on me dontcha think? 
some blogger?
...NY times?
...Cnn? 
...Huffington post? 
...politifacts.org?
mkay. play me out Mc www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn…

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VentAnger In reply to Zetsubou-Ninja [2013-11-16 22:09:23 +0000 UTC]

Um, you do realize that Obamacare IS the Affordable Care Act... uhh... you don't, do you.  Wow.

You think I made up the statistic that for every new enrollee for Obamacare, there's been at least 40 who have had their insurance dropped or become too expensive to afford?

www.forbes.com/sites/theapothe…

You're such a fucking joke.

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Zetsubou-Ninja In reply to VentAnger [2013-11-16 22:13:22 +0000 UTC]

"heres the difference between obamacare and the affordable care act (none)" 
hey is it me or are you incapable of reading? 
jokes on you.

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VentAnger In reply to Zetsubou-Ninja [2013-11-16 22:20:26 +0000 UTC]

The only reason to point out there's no difference is if you're unaware that they're not the same things.  Good grief, stop embarrassing yourself and just give up.

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Zetsubou-Ninja In reply to VentAnger [2013-11-16 22:29:17 +0000 UTC]

I like how instead of owning up that you misread what I said, you try to make a point that me giving you information is the same as me not knowing the information. Are you even reading what you're typing?

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VentAnger In reply to Zetsubou-Ninja [2013-11-16 22:50:28 +0000 UTC]

You really think I didn't fucking know that Obamacare is the ACA?  You're just projecting your own rampant idiocy, aren't you?

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Zetsubou-Ninja In reply to VentAnger [2013-11-16 22:54:04 +0000 UTC]

still here? you can have the last word, go ahead, i'm not so cruel as to at least take that from you.

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VentAnger In reply to Zetsubou-Ninja [2013-11-16 22:56:05 +0000 UTC]

Next time you think about arguing an issue that requires a minimal intellectual effort, remember how badly your pathetic arguments got destroyed here, and save yourself further public embarrassment by doing something else.

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abellius In reply to VentAnger [2013-11-17 17:23:16 +0000 UTC]

+1. It least someone knows what he is talking about.

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Zucca-Xerfantes In reply to VentAnger [2013-11-15 19:48:30 +0000 UTC]

Admitting is one thing, saying 'I'm sorry these events are happening to you' is another.

The president is still unconvinced that any of this is his fault.

And why should he be? He's been told his whole life that he's the Cat's Pajamas.

He's yet to experience a humbling moment in his life.

He can whip up all the fictitious tales of him sharing ice cream with his wife on a curb he wants. The proof is in the pudding, and the pudding says it prefers to be served in a gilded dish and signaled with a sterling silver spoon. He does *not* act like a man who has known failure and humility.

He has supporters who are so blindly adherent that they will fight tooth and nail against any legitimate evidence brought up against him.

Say what you will about Bush, but at least he didn't have a cult worshiping the ground he walks on.

Obama? He could devour a baby on national television and his supporters would laud him for his bold, pro-choice stance. -_-

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Takisan111 In reply to Zucca-Xerfantes [2013-11-16 08:42:16 +0000 UTC]

... Why would someone put a cat in pajamas? More importantly, how? My cat would claw my eyes out if I tried that. I realize there is a huge political debate going on around us but I've never heard that expression before. 

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denFiktiva In reply to VentAnger [2013-11-15 19:22:19 +0000 UTC]

Yes, place blame, something which Americans seem to excel at. It's no wonder that your country is going down the drain when all you do is bicker instead of solving problems. Such stupidity.

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VentAnger In reply to denFiktiva [2013-11-15 20:55:27 +0000 UTC]

Stemming the tide of socialism which has bankrupted nations, if not directly caused the death of millions of people, that's called solving problems.  That's not "bickering", but it seems you've somehow become completely incapable of telling the difference.

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uki--uki In reply to ??? [2013-11-15 16:36:06 +0000 UTC]

Remember Obama wasn't elected, he been put there by the corporatocrats , election is just a illusion to make people believe they have a choice, they don't.
Elections are a fake thing.

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IAmTheUnison In reply to uki--uki [2013-11-16 02:23:41 +0000 UTC]

Indeed. The past few elections have been shady as hell. I recall even hearing a report that during the last election a plane carrying military votes exploded overseas...awful convenient wouldn't you say?

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Stump8 In reply to uki--uki [2013-11-15 17:14:59 +0000 UTC]

At this point they are, anyway.

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mobile707 In reply to ??? [2013-11-15 15:59:01 +0000 UTC]

There is, of course, no possible way to know what Martin King's political opinions about contemporary subjects and personalities would be, if he were still alive. But FWIW, I think he would be one of Obama's most stalwart supporters.

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IAmTheUnison In reply to mobile707 [2013-11-16 02:30:23 +0000 UTC]

Well, I can't speak on what Dr. King's personal views would be. I'm just pointing out the major difference between what the two men stand for, and how people apparently have not learned to value character over color.

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mobile707 In reply to IAmTheUnison [2013-11-16 03:08:14 +0000 UTC]

Fair enough.


I certainly agree with your implied point that this present generation is every bit as obsessed and neurotic about the subject of "race" as was King's generation 50 years ago -- if anything, more so today than back then.

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uki--uki In reply to mobile707 [2013-11-15 17:09:59 +0000 UTC]

Looks like you never read anything MLK said.

What he would say about drones/war: "War is the greatest plague that can afflict humanity, it destroys religion, it destroys states, it destroys families. Any scourge is preferable to it." - Martin Luther King

If you think he would support Obama, read this: "The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy." — Martin Luther King

Obama don't have any moral values, a man that send drones to kill children and even say "I'm really good at killing people" tells us that, in the other hand MLK says:

"We who in engage in nonviolent direct action are not the creators of tension. We merely bring to the surface the hidden tension that is already alive." — Martin Luther King

"Nonviolence means avoiding not only external physical violence but also internal violence of spirit. You not only refuse to shoot a man, but you refuse to hate him." — Martin Luther King

"Nonviolence is the answer to the crucial political and moral questions of our time; the need for mankind to overcome oppression and violence without resorting to oppression and violence. Mankind must evolve for all human conflict a method which rejects revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method is love."  — Martin Luther King

You can clearly see the difference of character in this few quotes.

"Cowardice asks the question, 'Is it safe?' Expediency asks the question, 'Is it politic?' But conscience asks the question, 'Is it right?' And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular but because conscience tells one it is right." — Martin Luther King

"I have decided to stick with love. Hate is too great a burden to bear." — Martin Luther King

"Love is the only cement that can hold this broken community together.When I am commanded to love, I am commanded to restore community, to resist injustice, and to meet the needs for my brothers." — Martin Luther King

“Never, never be afraid to do what's right, especially if the well-being of a person or animal is at stake. Society's punishments are small compared to the wounds we inflict on our soul when we look the other way.” ― Martin Luther King

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MiraKHall In reply to uki--uki [2013-11-16 07:11:46 +0000 UTC]

I thought religion destroys states and families as well   Just look at Christianity; they wiped out Pagan religions and almost made their mother religion, Judaism, near extinct.

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uki--uki In reply to MiraKHall [2013-11-16 09:38:53 +0000 UTC]

Seen quite right doesn't it ? Still many people does follow religion, it is a choice they have, it is always good to remember what Jacque Fresco says about it: "Chriatianity is a great thing, when are they going to start to practice?"

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MiraKHall In reply to uki--uki [2013-11-16 19:34:47 +0000 UTC]

  I like that very much; that's how I feel about the whole thing.  It's core message promoted altruism on a pacifist level and yet the main focus of the faith is, well, having faith on a fascist scale.  Faith in WHAT, that's anybody's guess.  Not to mention the total hypocrisy involved, starting with the Roman empire's methods of execution via torture, and following with, you guessed it, the Catholic Inquisition who used even WORSE torture methods on non-believers.

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uki--uki In reply to MiraKHall [2013-11-16 20:36:35 +0000 UTC]

All that is just about control the people. Through fear, intimidation and so on. A prison for the mind. The inquisition also target believers, there was no discrimination, all they needed was a excuse to set up examples.

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