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We're beginning to walk away from my "mini-series" showcasing all the popular Cartoon Network shows from the 2010's. I consider Over the Garden Wall an epilogue to the last scorecards of Season 1 because it gained popular attention towards fans and critics. So yeah, this is the first Nickelodeon scorecard of this season and we're back to normal once again. Anyways...The Ren & Stimpy Show is a show I didn't like when I was little, despite that I didn't watch any episodes of the show. I didn't like it mainly because of its zany-ness and the two main characters, Ren (especially) and Stimpy. While listening to the theme song and credits over and over again, I had an idea to review the show for Season 2, as the first episode of the season "to be normal from my perspective". When I saw the pilot and first episode, Stimpy's Big Day, I liked the show, but at that time, I thought is was just good...
...but when I saw the series as a whole, I was really astonished by not only a 90s cartoon scoring pretty high, but also its infamous reboot is as good as the original! I can't believe it; this has to be one of those shows where I was the most easy on (because it's early 90s for ya, duh). Judging by the chart, wow! You know why? There's only 5 episodes I didn't like! One of which I didn't recommend at all and unfortunately, it's a bad episode. You thought I didn't like this show because it's Gumball Syndrome? Well, it isn't that type of show with Gumball Syndrome, but it's one of those shows that gave birth to Gumball Syndrome because it influenced shows that borrowed some of the show's aspects, only to mess around with it too much where the writing and characters are mean-spirited, thus Gumball Syndrome is born, being used uncommonly by Nickelodeon and Kids WB at the time, and then Cartoon Network wanted a grip of it, which they've become addicted to the formula that one time, the entire network is nothing but Gumballs. But I digress, there's 10 blessed episodes from the show, with the most common ratings from the show being great and divine. Thanks to Seasons 4 and 5, the great rating has multiplied where it's up there with divine to be the most dominant rating of the show. As for Adult Party Cartoon, I was honestly shocked especially with the ratings and final rating becoming extremely unpopular. The worst one is only good, while the best one is up there with the best episodes of the show overall being supreme. This has become something great I haven't seen in quite a while now.
I'm going to split each section that talks about my thoughts on The Ren & Stimpy Show and Adult Party Cartoon respectively. Without a further or do, we'll analyze how revolutionary The Ren & Stimpy Show is with its writing and how it set new standards for the cartoon industry:
The Ren & Stimpy Show: For the premise, it doesn't look anything promising. It's all about a chihuahua and cat living together and their adventures. Since we're talking about the early 90s, the premise doesn't look bad, so how's the execution. Unlike everything I've seen before for its time. Well, the episodes' premises are pretty simple. Since it's all about adventure and comedy regarding The Ren & Stimpy Show, the writing here absolutely works. For most of the time, the show heavily makes fun of everyday life, whether it would be fishing, camping, getting stranded on an island, addiction to TV, insomnia, guarding, the list keeps going! Not only can this show tell simple yet hilarious concepts very well with its use of satire, but it can also sometimes be ahead of its time (An Abe Divided, Blazing Entrails, Powdered Toast Man vs. Waffle Woman to name a few) that makes it a piece of art of the 90s. It's not because that they feel so original that it automatically makes them good, these episodes can get as hilarious as they get jammed pack with satire, super effective slapstick, unpredictably funny moments and a lot of clever and chuckle-worthy twists. There's also some creative effort in the writing where examples like galoots and lummoxes being like wild animals are genius-enough ideas for a premise for The Ren & Stimpy Show that, while delivering some gross-outs, are executed satirically. What spiffy up the humor some more is the use of adult jokes and no, they aren't as uncomfortable and visible as the ones from Adventure Time's Fiona and Cake, like their format, the humor makes fun of adult jokes. And what about gross-out? What's my thoughts on the gross content you may ask? Well, the gross-outs come out as unpredictable and indeed out-of-place for a children's show, but thanks to the zany animation, it's fairly effective for what it is. Since this is the one that started Gumball Syndrome, few of the episodes can go out as too mean-spirited and sappy where substance is stripped away from the writing. And not all of the episodes are laugh out loud hilarious because few episodes aren't that funny where it makes me bored, but it doesn't affect the overall quality of the writing because the satirical and creative effort helped shape the writing for new unique ideas. This is easily one of the best examples for a show dedicated to satire.
Adult Party Cartoon: Alright, now it's time to talk about the infamous and critically-panned Ren & Stimpy 'Adult Party Cartoon', considered as one of the worst cartoons of all time. For me, I think the writing didn't change a bit, except the adult jokes dominate every single episode and are clearly visible. And you know what? I'm fine with humor like that. Since Adult Party Cartoon is a show aimed towards adults, the jokes some episodes send out really shows that this is an adult cartoon and not a kids show. However, for a reboot based on something like "The Ren & Stimpy Show", the portrayal could've been worse, but I'll talk about that in the characters section, the "worst" aspect according to many reviewers. Now back to the adult jokes, which I can say that it still fits with the show's formats; The reboot continues to make fun of everyday life (moving in with someone, impressing girls at the beach (for some reason it's unpredictable) and dealing with your wife being pregnant), but it doesn't stop there. It takes the edgy humor of the show and actually be creative with it. I think the creativity with the jokes here work better than The Ren & Stimpy Show because I find them more clever than ever. I'm surprised that Adult Party Cartoon can go many directions with adult jokes and turn normal actions into more edgy jokes so that the mature audience and grasp a laugh at that. For example, the infamous log scene where Ren wears shorts with a saw strapped on as he cuts the log in half on Stimpy's back, in my opinion, works because it feels a lot different yet creative. It feels like something adult cartoons could've done with some creativity of its edgy material where it feels thoughtful. How about the gross-ups? Well, they're more fitting for Adult Party Cartoon rather than The Ren & Stimpy Show because again, the reboot is an adult cartoon and I find it forgivable if it makes disgusting jokes. It's probably a way to make the audience laugh and so forth and like what I said, the show crafts creative ideas for adult jokes. But what about the writing itself without the humor? Since the episodes are stretched to last more than 20 minutes, the pacing can be slow, like REALLY slow. It can shove in filler often, probably to dive deeper into what and why is it happening in the episode. Like The Ren & Stimpy Show, it can have some clever twists and unexpected moments from the duo. Since The Ren & Stimpy Show is from the early 90s while Adult Party Cartoon, it did its best not to feel dated for the early 2000s and it turns out it did. Thanks to more creative effort, thoughtful ideas for adult humor and nice twists, there's not much to describe the writing except it fits really well for Adult Party Cartoon's tone/theme. Once again, the portrayal needs some work and the pacing can be slow, but it's still writing I approve.
Adult Party Cartoon's writing isn't as good as The Ren & Stimpy Show's, but it's very good for what it is (great WITHOUT the Ren & Stimpy touch). I have a very bad feeling for your thoughts because I'll get attacked by a lot of Mr. Enter fans for what I said with the writing being good. It's an adult cartoon and it's alright if it has many adult jokes. But since it's rating is M, there can be sexual jokes here and there. As for the animation, the infamous one wins:
The Ren & Stimpy Show: It still lives up to my dreams when I can say that this is the reason why many episodes are divine and over. So this appears to be a type of animation style that references cartoons from the late 50's to 60's. What are you going to expect? Me bashing the animation style specifically because it's dated for its time? Actually, no because the show strives to create its own unique animation style and it works. The animation of the show is what adds to the humor of the show where it's over-the-top in a hilarious way. And now you'd expect me to criticize the character designs for looking ugly and inconsistent. Well, they're used for the humor of the show once again for the exaggerated expressions so that the audience can get a laugh at. And the ugliness of the characters? They're also intended to show how zany and cartoony Kricfalusi's works are and you know what? They're also silly looking as well. It presents anthropomorphic animals in a zany but unique way that makes the animation really fitting and silly looking. When Kricfalusi worked on the show, it made the animation more unique and nostalgic to look at due to the use of paint splatters used over the backgrounds, as well as simplistic backgrounds that are given some depth and value that gives you vibes of the late 50s to early 60s animation. This looks like it's making the old-style animation new again by painting a simplistic background that we can all tell what it is, therefore it isn't ugly looking, as it shaped 90's style of animation. Just like how Adventure Time made its character designs simple yet effective where it shaped the cartoon world of the 2010's. Much of this animation style worked really well for the show that it makes the humor more laughable, but what about the gross-ups? While there are some that can be taken too far, the grotesque-ness is toned down for family viewings. I'm glad that it isn't THAT gross to look at. And the character animation? Well, it's pretty fluid. The characters don't move realistically, but it makes sense because this is a cartoon that isn't real and the animators did have a lot of fun with the character animation. All of these aspects combined together multiplies the quality of the humor where it definitely revolutionized today's standard with nostalgic animation being used to act more unique at its own.
Adult Party Cartoon: I know I may be crazy saying this but the animation, like other shows when they made the move to digital ink and paint, is an upgrade compared to The Ren & Stimpy Show. While the color palettes got darker and the backgrounds lost that nostalgic touch The Ren & Stimpy Show, the character designs and backgrounds (still) translates very well into digital ink and paint. I mean, the style did lose half of its charm, but it did make room for more depth and character animation as well. In Adult Party Cartoon, the characters move a lot fluid compared to The Ren & Stimpy Show's animation, while still having little exaggerated faces in them. As for the backgrounds, they appear to be given more depth as possible where they make them look cartoonish and realistic respectively. The new animation style here doesn't look as low-budget and inferior like what Teen Titans Go! did to Teen Titans' animation but it didn't make the animation as ugly as possible where you had to look away. Combined with very well painted backgrounds, they seem to have some taste of what the 80's animation like with more realistic backgrounds compared to the simple and abstract backgrounds from The Ren & Stimpy Show. I'm happy to see Adult Party Cartoon aim for a different animation style so that the old animation style doesn't look dated for 2003. But, I said that The Ren & Stimpy Show presented a 50's vibe while cracking some unique ideas from it, right? Well, the luster the show's animation style includes is going to feel really dated by 2003, so Carbunkle Cartoons aimed for more realistic backgrounds while keeping that 50's vibe to it and it still manages to work for the 2000's. However, they make the backgrounds too realistic where there can be gross ups everywhere. I think it's used to coincide with the show's edgy tone and how gross it is, which again, they did some creative effort with gross content. And yeah, we still have Kricfalusi's signature animation on the human designs where they look less cartoony than Ren, Stimpy and Mr. Horse themselves. That's where Adult Party Cartoon tries something new with the animation style because back in The Ren & Stimpy Show, the humans are drawn to look like they are a little cartoonish like Ren and Stimpy, but in Adult Party Cartoon, the backgrounds got an upgrade with its details and settings, so the animators went along with Kricfalusi's human designs. They're still as cartoonish as Ren and Stimpy themselves and animates fluidly with the backgrounds and their movements. While the colors are a bit crisp, the animation did its best to capture the charm of the original while presenting new ideas for the show with realistic backgrounds and upgrades on character designs and animation that in all translates well for 2003.
Once again, the upgraded animation always win, but it haves some holes it needs to cover up, yet it solved it by replacing it with something that fits well with the show's theme, therefore it works. Not much to describe the characters, though:
The Ren & Stimpy Show: You all were expecting me to bash on the characters as much as I can due to how Ren is a jerk often and Stimpy is plain naive and dumb. But as for me, there's not much to describe the characters from The Ren & Stimpy Show. Ren's grouchiness is funny this time instead of annoying thanks to their voice acting, which also adds to the humor of the show. While there isn't a lot of major characters, they're pretty interesting characters for what they are, especially when they look like they have a secret upon them. Development, which was missing in most Gumball Syndrome shows, is present in most of The Ren & Stimpy Show episodes, showing Ren and Stimpy's troubles of having no home and trying to adapt to the setting. There are indeed some episodes where either Ren or Stimpy learn from their mistakes of what they've did throughout the episode, but in some cases, it comes out as under-developed. However, since Ren is typically a grouchy chihuahua, he gets his comeuppance at the end. But back to the others characters, which have some sense of depth and are quite funny. Examples of other funny characters from The Ren & Stimpy Show are Powdered Toast Man and Mr. Horse, them of which deliver a fair amount of audio and visual gags together while presenting their personality in a comedic way. So, there's not much to describe the characters, except they're quite funny and well-characterized for what they are. The cruelty makes sense here.
Adult Party Cartoon: Same thing I can describe the characters is that they're quite funny and well-characterized. However in Adult Party Cartoon, it appears that development here is replaced with more depth on the characters. The reboot does give some really interesting backstories/depth on the characters that showed who they are in the show today. Ren Seeks Help is dedicated to Ren's backstory of how he became a psychopath in the first place and WITHOUT Ren, the backstory appears to be told suspenseful and entertaining thanks to the details it tells on Ren and what kind of things he do in Adult Party Cartoon. Ren is the most hated character in Adult Party Cartoon because his grouchiness is taken to a new level where it shows that he's a psychopath wanting to kill innocent creatures. However, he does have some sense of dynamics where he did change throughout the episode showing his jealous side (derived from The Ren & Stimpy Show) and he did reflect on the wrongs he did in the past (Ren Seeks Help). And by his psychopathic side, it can be shown in Sven Hoek where he threatens Stimpy and Sven so it can be shown in the original nevertheless. So, he has a sense of development and he does have moments here and there in Adult Party Cartoon when he does care about Stimpy and other characters from the reboot like the beach girls from Naked Beach Frenzy and the poor lady and her handicapped son from Altruists. As an example, it can show that characters are able to develop in Adult Party Cartoon when they can reflect on what they've done before and heck, Ren can get karma for what he done. Ren Seeks Help may show that he desires to show animal abuse to the audience, but in other times he can care about other people as well. But as good as when I brought up those points, there's something absolutely wrong regarding the character from Adult Party Cartoon. Remember what I said about the characters having development? Well, they don't develop well as they used to back in The Ren & Stimpy Show. It just feels like the writers want to dive deeper into these characters' lives as possible so that we could learn more about them, but development is what makes us like characters. The reboot lacking any sense of development weakens the characters more. Also, I think the portrayal of these characters could've been worse because I feel like Adult Party Cartoon isn't a good fit for Ren & Stimpy. Well yeah, the characters aren't flanderized to the max, but the episodes don't treat them well as they used to. I think Adult Party Cartoon should be about someone else like George Liquor or Jimmy the Idiot Boy, but it's not saying much. Also, Ren and Stimpy are visually shown as gay couples here, but they can be specified as gay back in The Ren & Stimpy Show where they lived with both each other. Remember when Ren kissed Stimpy in the pilot, Big House Blues? Well, that's just a deleted scene so nevermind. Even though Adult Party Cartoon fails to give respect to the characters, at least they have some redeemable qualities like fair amounts of development, flanderization not taken too far (it's a different story for Ren Seeks Help) and some of the best backstories and depth I've seen in a while.
When Nickelodeon started, this, in my opinion, is one of their best Nicktoons. One of the most revolutionary cartoons I’ve seen has to be this one that brings everything to a whole new level for cartoons that gifts us clever writing that takes advantage of the premise, non-stop silliness and hilarity ensued, Kricfalusi’s signature animation that adds to the humor of the show and funny and likeable characters. Adult Party Cartoon isn't far behind since it did tried to keep the show's charm with creative effort targeted on the humor, upgraded animation that still keeps a taste of the 50's and a lot of depth fed into the characters. If you want to watch a comedic cartoon, I highly recommend this cartoon with its magnificent use of satire and comedy where I can find a joke in an episode here and there. Thought I would rate this show meh like the other Gumball Syndrome shows? Nope, it's divine (82%). What about Adult Party Cartoon? I, honestly, was really shocked that the reboot would reach an 81% in the cartoon ruler. Both shows did something for its time and that's to revolutionize cartoons into what they are today. The Ren & Stimpy Show is the starting point of Nickelodeon's success, along with Rugrats, as it gets love from other shows like every Gumball Syndrome show, Rocko's Modern Life, SpongeBob SquarePants, etc. It is truly a marvel for the cartoon world that made my past self wrong about the show overall.
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Comments: 184
Powerstar2038 In reply to ??? [2019-06-23 18:33:29 +0000 UTC]
so what would you rate from best to worst 1 to 6?
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HugeTFPFan In reply to Powerstar2038 [2019-06-23 18:58:49 +0000 UTC]
6. Fire Dogs 2 (Worst)
5. Onward and Upward
4. Stimpy's Pregnant
3. Naked Beach Frenzy
2. Altruists
1. Ren Seeks Help (Best)
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Powerstar2038 In reply to HugeTFPFan [2019-06-23 19:09:53 +0000 UTC]
i agree with the list surprisingly but i do know that the internet has an opposite oppinion of your list lol but yeah thats my list as well ren seeks help and altruists are actually a 5 outta 10 in my eyes the rest are anywhere from a 3-4.5 tho yaknow def not terrible but not my fav cartoon ever made but the internet blows the cartoon way outta porportion in saying its one of the worst cuz i wouldnt even put it in top 20 worst cartoons my mother wouldnt ether in fact id put it in top 50 or 100 best cartoons even but id also put it in top 50 or 100 worst ones too its got great scenes but some scenes i perfer to skip ahead of (meaning id perfer not to watch certain scenes) but i think most of the scenes i didnt wanna watch where in fire dogs 2 so i 100% agree on the list
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HugeTFPFan In reply to Powerstar2038 [2019-06-23 19:44:34 +0000 UTC]
I think I'd put APC in my top 10 favorite cartoons.
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Powerstar2038 In reply to HugeTFPFan [2019-06-23 21:02:26 +0000 UTC]
lol you must really like it then its def over hated tho thats for sure hell id say its kinda underrated the funny parts were really funny ren seeks help was a decent horror episode mixed with a bit of comedy and weirdness even and yes ren seeks help makes sence in my eyes and was an alright back story for ren well id take it over school mates from the og ren and stimpy and alot of eps from season 4 and 5 so when you said that its better then season 4 and 5 your 100% correct i didnt like season 5 at all and season 4 was kinda lame only a few eps id go back and watch like ren bitter half and some parts of aloha hoek n things like that apcs alot better then season 5 for sure and didnt get enough eps for me to say its better then season 4 so around as good as season 4 for sure but not as good or better then the first 3 seasons for me but i def disagree with mreter and phantomstrider and jemreviews about it being one of the worst it was shocking gross funny disturbing it was ok sometimes was decent at certain moments even
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HugeTFPFan In reply to Powerstar2038 [2019-06-23 21:16:39 +0000 UTC]
APC is better than Seasons 3-5 IMO but Seasons 1&2 are better.
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Powerstar2038 In reply to HugeTFPFan [2019-06-23 21:50:41 +0000 UTC]
actually now that i really think about it yeah seasons 3-5 were worse then apc seasons 3 and 4 have good eps but seasons 5 was kinda lame boring and bad id def watch apc over season 5 anyday very few laughs and good moments were in season 5 season 3 and 4 atleast had some great moments but season 5 was kinda lame boring and bad season 5 didnt even feel like ren and stimpy anymore really so apcs def better then season 5 for sure
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HugeTFPFan In reply to Powerstar2038 [2019-06-24 00:18:16 +0000 UTC]
My rankings on the seasons from best to worst are:
Season 2>Season 1>APC>Season 3>Season 4>Season 5
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Powerstar2038 In reply to HugeTFPFan [2019-06-24 00:33:42 +0000 UTC]
yeah my thoughts really too but im still not 100% sure if season 3s worst then apc with eps like rens bitter half a yard too far Circus Midgets Stimpy's Cartoon Show wall apc had ren seeks help and altrusts and i did like those ones a decent amount the rest of the eps where ok as well i liked em exsept fire dogs 2 was kinda boring so hmmm but i think imma go with apc being better cuz there was only 6 eps and about 65% of the 6 eps were funny or wtf so yeah imma gonna go with apc being better if it actually got 13 eps (meaning a whole season id know alot better but since its only 6 eps i was thinking hard on what i liked or was shocked by or whent wtf or laughed at and apc seems to be the winner yes) and no im not trying to have the same appinion as you on apc but its seems we think alike about apc for the most part
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HugeTFPFan In reply to Powerstar2038 [2019-06-24 01:02:34 +0000 UTC]
Although the third season has several episodes worth calling masterpieces, I still prefer APC.
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Powerstar2038 In reply to HugeTFPFan [2019-06-24 01:23:07 +0000 UTC]
well its just that apc is only 6 eps 7 if u count the unmade one life sucks which i dont cuz its just a prequal to ren seeks help but for the amount of laughs and hoe ridulous the ideas where and things its prob about the best a person could do with the ideas id say but 100% agrree with seasons 4 and 5 being worse that thought will always stay the same for me theres very few eps id go rewatch in seasons 4-5 id rewatch all the eps of apc tho so apc def wins over season 4 and 5
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HugeTFPFan In reply to Powerstar2038 [2019-06-24 13:06:39 +0000 UTC]
Seasons 4 and 5 weren't all bad for me. There are still many great episodes I remember from those seasons.
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Powerstar2038 In reply to HugeTFPFan [2019-06-24 17:54:50 +0000 UTC]
those 2 seasons werent awful or bad but not as good as the other ren and stimpy seasons and apc
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HugeTFPFan In reply to Powerstar2038 [2019-06-24 18:09:13 +0000 UTC]
I agree. There are masterpieces in Seasons 4 and 5 such as Hermit Ren, Blazing Entrails, A Hard Day's Luck, I Love Chicken, Powdered Toast Man vs. Waffle Woman, Insomniac Ren, My Shiny Friend, Dog Tags, I Was a Teenage Stimpy, Who's Stupid Now?, Blazing Entrails and Reverend Jack.
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Powerstar2038 In reply to HugeTFPFan [2019-06-24 18:56:43 +0000 UTC]
my favs where i love chicken powdered toast man vs waffle women insomniac ren those are my fav also what were your fav moments in apc mine was i dont give a rats ass flude dance whos the pitcher whos the catcher your fucking crazy thats whats wrong ith you do it for YOURSELF
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HugeTFPFan In reply to Powerstar2038 [2019-06-24 21:04:00 +0000 UTC]
Those are my favorite moments, too.
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Powerstar2038 In reply to HugeTFPFan [2019-06-24 21:18:54 +0000 UTC]
they were hilarious i had to download apc after watching those moments cuz if i didnt then my brain would remember them then i wouldnt know what cartoon those moments came from and watching the cartoon reviewers review ren seeks help and stimpys pregnant they didnt look too hard to watch after watching i can say i found it just medeocre the worst score i can give is a 3 outta 10 the best one is a 5 and id be a 6 if some scenes werent dragged out or stuff like that but still an alright cartoon id take it over alot of adult cartoons like modern family guy (sorry if you like modern family guy i hate it) mr pickles king star king and stuff like that in fact apc its surprisingly my fav adult cartoon (i dont consider simpsons an adult cartoon its more like a teen cartoon so thats why apc is my fav) but good animation good art style ok voice acting some good writing some bad writing good music (its stock but still) really funny moments and tolerable characters for the most part it prob will be my fav adult cartoon for a long time if i find a better one then apc that one will be my new fav but till then apc for life
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HugeTFPFan In reply to Powerstar2038 [2019-06-25 01:07:54 +0000 UTC]
APC is still my favorite adult cartoon of all time, tied with Beavis and Butt-Head but that could change.
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Powerstar2038 In reply to HugeTFPFan [2019-06-25 01:15:24 +0000 UTC]
cool also rens so cute and funny lookin in apc when he turns derpy like ya know classic ren and the eyes are far apart kinda isnt that so cute and hilarious? (i still cant get over that its cute at parts cuz it has adult in the title and adult cartoons arent cute normally lol oh well its kinda shocking that way then and memorable)
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Powerstar2038 In reply to HugeTFPFan [2019-06-25 18:26:04 +0000 UTC]
im really sorry my mind just cant get over ren looking really cute and apc having a few cute moments when its an adult cartoon and normally adult cartoons dont have cute moments so then its so funny and shocking then
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HugeTFPFan In reply to Powerstar2038 [2019-06-26 00:38:18 +0000 UTC]
I mean that I acknowledged what you said in your comment: "im really sorry my mind just cant get over ren looking really cute and apc having a few cute moments when its an adult cartoon and normally adult cartoons dont have cute moments so then its so funny and shocking then"
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Powerstar2038 In reply to HugeTFPFan [2019-06-26 02:06:36 +0000 UTC]
cool yeah those are my thoughts on apcs cute moments wtf its an adult cartoon its not supposed to be cute but ehh whatever the cartoon does not care its just like imma break the 4th wall and idk why im doing it and imma be really violent and disturbing and n cute for no good reason imma gonna be off the wall and have lust (naked beach frenzy and the scene with rens parents making out lol) also is it just me who wants more apc eps or do you do too?
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HugeTFPFan In reply to Powerstar2038 [2019-06-27 01:57:28 +0000 UTC]
I think 6 is a good enough of a number.
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Powerstar2038 In reply to HugeTFPFan [2019-06-27 13:03:42 +0000 UTC]
i guess only i do then lol ill have to make more for myself then
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HugeTFPFan In reply to Powerstar2038 [2019-06-27 14:52:43 +0000 UTC]
This is why fanfictions exist.
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Powerstar2038 In reply to HugeTFPFan [2019-06-27 16:45:07 +0000 UTC]
yes how true lol but ill prob make the art and animation for it but ill do it after making the ep life sucks an actually animation and not a animatic anymore
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HugeTFPFan In reply to Powerstar2038 [2019-06-27 21:50:47 +0000 UTC]
It would actually be great if Life Sucks was made into an actual episode.
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Powerstar2038 In reply to HugeTFPFan [2019-06-27 22:10:58 +0000 UTC]
i agree ill make the ep one day (also its not cuz animation is that hard for me its just im slow at things sorry) id def wanna see it even if ren hoek scarys me (apperantly he scared me so much as a 7-9 year old he was forever in my brain and he wehent as the name no name till i watched apc then i found out no name was ren hoek and then he came back no name leavt my head at age 15 cuz stimpys 15 but ren hoek seems to kinda like who ive become we always have diffrent oppinions on things tho but he doesnt like me watching pokemon or crying so he then leaves but nm about this part just dont say im insane or anything ok) also im not 100% sure if the animation quality would be worse or better im 1 person so dont go too hard on me if its not as good as ren and stimpy (ether apc or og) cuz ill try my best tho i dont do frame by frame i only do bone point or switch layer animation in moho/anime studio youll find most of the animations ive done on my youtube and heres my youtube channel (or atleast a vid thats on my youtube channel so you can get to my youtube channel also its not the best i can do animation wise it was just a test to see if mew was bone rigged correct or not) www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4iXWJ…
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HugeTFPFan In reply to Powerstar2038 [2019-06-29 02:27:13 +0000 UTC]
You're going to need a lot more practice with animation when you animate the episode Life Sucks.
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Powerstar2038 In reply to HugeTFPFan [2019-06-29 19:10:29 +0000 UTC]
i can do good if i really want to but i dont think the life sucks ep will be as well animated as the other eps of apc
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HugeTFPFan In reply to Powerstar2038 [2019-06-29 19:46:23 +0000 UTC]
I would animate Life Sucks myself but I don't think I have the time and patience for that. I'm sorry.
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Powerstar2038 In reply to HugeTFPFan [2019-06-29 20:07:37 +0000 UTC]
lol well im the one who wants it animated mostly anyways but the main reason i say not to get your hopes up too much for it to be animated as well as apc is that i dont do frame by frame animation when ill make the animation itll be with bone tool a few switch layers and the program doing alot of work for me so in reality itll take longer to draw the characters and bone rig em then to animate it but id recamend you check out all my animations not just the one i sent you (if you only watched the one i sent) cuz they come in all kinda of quality but there def not as well animated as apc but im 1 person and am doing it withh 1 program so dont expect it to be as good but prob as good as cans without labels or early ren and stimpy season 1 and heres my youtube channel cuz im an eddiot and forget to say chech out all the tiny animations i did www.youtube.com/channel/UCIdYX…
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HugeTFPFan In reply to Powerstar2038 [2019-06-29 22:42:23 +0000 UTC]
I have an idea on how to make the animation good: add more detail to the characters and design them the way they are in both the original show and APC. As for the backgrounds? Perfectly design them to where they look like a really detailed painting.
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Powerstar2038 In reply to HugeTFPFan [2019-06-29 22:54:19 +0000 UTC]
imma try but i still can only use moho/anime studio cuz i couldnt learn any other programs really well but like i said it prob wont be as good as og ren and stimpy or apc but itll be better then most youtube animations and no im not gonna learn adobe programs for the animation i really hate adobe programs but if i need to ill try to use krita rebelle opentoonz or something like that if i cant made the backgrounds well enough in moho/anime studio not sure if ill change the character designs ether ill probably trace apc ren and classic ren apc has both so thatll be alright and no frame by frame animation but i will try (also if your wondering why im not using toonboom is cuz it also was too hard to learn and i couldnt get a crack for it)
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HugeTFPFan In reply to Powerstar2038 [2019-06-29 23:15:22 +0000 UTC]
I wish you luck on animating that unfinished APC episode.
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Powerstar2038 In reply to HugeTFPFan [2019-06-29 23:22:56 +0000 UTC]
thanks also heres little rens head i traced it from the piliot
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Powerstar2038 In reply to HugeTFPFan [2019-07-01 20:58:42 +0000 UTC]
yay you like it thats good im prob gonna cut alot of animation corners on life sucks so itll prob look a bit worse then apc and a bit more like cans without labels so not as good as ren and stimpy but alot better then using adobe flash cuz that programs garbage and most of the time makes very bad animation
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HugeTFPFan In reply to Powerstar2038 [2019-07-03 00:21:21 +0000 UTC]
You can make good animation with Flash. You just need to get it done right. I don't know if you're a PPG fan or not but I saw this animated parody called "The Powerpuff Girls World - CHAPTER 1" that is very, very well made in Flash. You can see it if you want to. I'll even leave the link here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rrfo40…
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Powerstar2038 In reply to HugeTFPFan [2019-07-03 00:26:41 +0000 UTC]
well not me thats for sure i cant use it worth shit and ive tryed like mad
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HugeTFPFan In reply to Powerstar2038 [2019-07-03 00:34:13 +0000 UTC]
I've made a short animation with Flash and it looks good to me.
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Powerstar2038 In reply to HugeTFPFan [2019-07-03 00:39:54 +0000 UTC]
im just saying im not using flash i hate that program ok ive tryed and tryed and tryed and i can barly animate a fucking circle in it so fuck it im not using ok imma use moho/anime studio and not the flash or toonboom cuz i could not use ether flash or toonboom cuz if i cant learn it off messing with the program or tutorials i just cant learn it and well even with already made puppets its still impossible to use for me then again i hate all adobe programs i always use the ones that not many people use cuz it seems there better
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HugeTFPFan In reply to Powerstar2038 [2019-07-03 00:41:03 +0000 UTC]
Just look up some tutorials on YouTube. You'll get the hang of it after a few hours.
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Powerstar2038 In reply to HugeTFPFan [2019-07-03 00:47:20 +0000 UTC]
um yeah nooooo ive tryed that it didnt work alright i hhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaatttttttttteeeeeeee flash and all adobe programs and toonboom alright noones gonna change my mind and besides if i wanted to i could do just as good or better then what flash can do ok im not using flash i apsolutly hate that program id use any other program besides flash i hate it hate i hate it id murder living things before using it OK ive looked at tutorials ive tryed fucking with the program nnnnnoooooo not using it
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HugeTFPFan In reply to Powerstar2038 [2019-07-03 00:48:26 +0000 UTC]
Then I guess it's easier for me to learn how to use animation programs, then.
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