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I'm really interested in internal anatomy
and I kinda wondered what Randall's skeleton would look like
So I made this!
It came out a lot better than I thought it would
I used frog, snake, and lizard skeletons as reference
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i know he is really flexible the scene were he first entered his first room when their shift has started you can see how twisted his body is for a few seconds before going into the room
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your welcome i think its really cool, and i can't wait for the next moive to come out
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Me neither
I've been waiting 11 years for it
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i love the fact that they have a website for the university XD
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I know! It's awesome!
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Ide say thats pretty awesome. And it is. But if his skull was that shape he would have a permanent grin and that is not the case.
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Nice
You did a intricate job on each little bone
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You... you're brillant !!!
it's just... AMAZING ! Well made, professional !
It would have its place in a (Disney) Veterinarian's cabinet
<3 love it
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you are gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood
*favs*
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This is made of Pure Awesome.
And your icon made me laugh out loud. Dat Zim.
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That's heaps awesome! Randall's awesome.
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That's pretty neat, since I'm very interesting an vertebrate anatomy myself. Couple of little points I'd like to make though, based on my own observations both of Randall and of real vertebrates, so don't take them too personally. There used to be a website called "Randall Fans United", which was one of the first and most-comprehensive Randall fan sites on the internet, in which there was a huge gallery of screen caps. In one, you could see that Randall actually DID have nostrils, although they were small and like those of most snakes, faced backwards, and were covered with a scale that could open or shut(sorta like a camel's nose). Unfortuntely this site has been recently taken down. If you can find the screen cap of the "Bloopers" scene where he's practicing his blending skills in front of the various backdrops, there is one in which you can see a significant difference in Randall's internal ananatomy and that of a real reptile, one which indicates he's probably much closer to us mammals on the inside. In that scene, he's obviously just exhaled, and you can see that he's got "floating ribs" down near the bottom of his ribcage, just below his lower pair of arms, which means he's also got a muscular diaphragm for breathing, something that reptiles lack. This also means that the other ribs curve all the way around and attach in front to his sternum, which would mean that it has to be much longer and extend most of the way down the front of his thoracic cavity, much as ours does(only he's got a much longer thoracic cavity to accomodate a pair of really long lungs). Randall would also need a second pair of clavicles(collar bones)for his lower pair of arms, in order to be able to extend them out to the side as he does, although your redition of his second shoulder girdle is probably correct, given that the second pair of arms does not seem to be as strong as the first, and aren't used as often. The two pelvic girdles you got spot-on, with the second in this case being the strongest, since Randall's rear pair of legs seem to be the primary weight-bearing pair. We see that he can stand upright on that pair of legs, supporting his entire weight, but not on the first pair, and of course(yes, here goes my mind straight to the gutter), that second pelvis would also have to house and protect some rather delicate anatomical parts. There would probably be some slightly taller spinous processes along the tops of his lumbar vertebrae for added support and protection of his kidneys and other abdominal organ. Now, back to the skull for a moment-although not visable in this pose, Randall's lower jaw is very thick near the mandibular joint, for the attachment of what are probably some really impressive jaw muscles(James Sullivan had best be greatful that Randall never considered biting him, since that probably would have left a mark), so the lower mandible would need to be pretty wide, vertically. There is also a lot more of his head behind his eyes, which again, isn't really visable in this particular pose, and that is most likely where the control center for all of this would be housed, with the frontal area in between his eyes being composed of sinus cavities. He'd have to have a very advanced brain, not only to control all those limbs and coordinate that almost-instant color change, but due to him being highly intelligent and creative beyond the average human' capacity, putting him more on a level with our own inventors and thinkers.
Overall, though, really good, and certainly a very interesting and unique "take" on fan art that's also got some educational qualities. I'd actually really love to see the view with organs, since the Biologist in me is always keen on that sort of thing. But like I said, you can't approach Randall's internal structures with "reptile" in mind, since he's obviously endothermic and has a much-more mammalian structure. It's just his outer covering, and his tongue, which are more remininscent of a reptile's.
Nice work, very original!
pitbulllady
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Oh and for the record, I used the wayback machine to obtain what's left of the "Randall Fans United" website - it's all in this [link] */randall.rocks.it/
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Thank you
You put a lot of thought into your comment
It's too bad "Randall Fans United" was taken down. I would have liked to have seen it
I knew Randall had nostrils. If he didn't, he'd have to have his mouth open all the time
That "break" in the frontal area between his eyes was intended to be a (very small) opening to his sinus cavity.
Which screen cap had his nostrils visible?
There were some details that I deliberately left out (the back of his head, mandubular joint, the spinous process on the lumbar vertibrae etc) because the skeleton was becoming too complicated and the basic structure would have been lost.
Actually, Randall's spine and ribs are snake-like, not mammal-like at all. His body is like a snake with limbs. His ribs can't possibly attach in the front. If they did, he couldn't bend, twist, and slither like he does in the movie.
Remember the scene where he was doing those karate moves in the locker room? [link]
How could he bend at an almost 90 degree angle if his ribs were fixed into a cage-like shape like ours?
I can tell you from experience that, if we bend too far, our fixed-in-place ribs get in the way
Unless his ribs were connected by flexible cartilage
I thought about adding a second pair of clavicles, but then I realized that they would be right infront of his ribcage. Keeping in mind that, as we inhale, the ribcage has to expand to accommodate the lungs - It wouldn't work.
How can his jaw be wide?! His bottom jaw is so flat!
You're right about Randall's internal anatomy being more human-like than lizard-like. It's because he walks upright and can speak (no lizards do that)
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You've never had a ferret, have you? I can assure that a ferret can bend and twist its furry little body into every manner that even Randall could imagine, and they are most definitely NOT reptiles. Randall doesn't have a snake-like breathing or skeletal system at all, and I've forgotten more about snakes than most people will ever know in their entire lives. Snakes are one of my deepest passions; I've kept them, I've studied them, I've bred them, lived with them, and yes, dissected them since I was a little kid, a long,long time ago. Randall is flexible, yes, but not so much as a snake. His torso is also flattened dorso-ventrally, like ours, while that of a snake is either largely cylindrical or flattened laterally somewhat, ditto for lizards, and most four-legged mammals' torsos are flattened laterally as well.
Look at a side view of Randall's head, and you'll see what I mean about him having a wide jaw. It's definitely deeper in the back than in the front. Here's that screen cap that I mentioned from the defunct "Randall Fans United" site, which I fortunately downloaded before it got taken down, in which you can see the jaw structure in the rear of the mandible as compared to the front, because he's not frowning. In many of the screen caps off the net, he's either looking mostly straight ahead, or he's frowning, so the the corners of his mouth turning downward make it appear as though his jaw is flat. In this scene, you can also see the lower or "short" ribs, where the diaphragm would connect. You won't see that in any known reptile. Pic: [link]
I love his expression here, by the way, since it really seems to capture the REAL personality best.
Randall's second pair of clavicles are most likely rather loosely connected with very elastic ligaments, which allow for both the extension of his arms and the expansion of his lungs. That would explain why the first pair of arms seems to be stronger, and used more for lifting, while the second pair is used mostly for gesturing and assisting the first pair.
I do not even recall which specific scene showed Randall's nostrils, since the screen cap was just a close-up of his face, and it's not one that you usually see on the internet. There were some shots that showed another reptilian feature he DOES seem to have, though, and that's some form of heat-sensing openings between the scales of his lower jaw just below his lower lip. It's hard to tell if those are scars(and he DOES have a lot of those)or natural openings that face forward, running vertically along the frontal edges of the first row of scales underneath his lower lip, but it would make sense to have at least a vestigial form of infrared-sensing system in place. Randall's eyesight seems acutely attuned to sensing minute changes in color/patterns, which would require many cone cells in his retinas, which would of course leave less space for light-sensing rods, so his night vision probably sucks.
pitbulllady
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I thought about how flexable ferrets are.
Actually, I looked at a ferret skeleton while I was making Randall's skeleton.
I didn't make the ribs connect because I thought it would probably be easier for him to slither low to the ground. And, as I said before, they would have covered up his spine, and I wanted people to be able to see the its curvature.
I see what you mean about his jaw. But I thought that was from muscle (like you said, he probably has a strong bite).
Where does Randall have scars?
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Randall has several scars. The most-prominent are along his upper rib cage, where he has a series of parallel scars on both sides. Those aren't just spaces between scales. They really look like similar scars I've seen on humans who have had to have multiple chest-tube insertions for medical purposes in the past. He also has a scar on that raised part of his head, his "sagital crest" as it were, along the left side below his fronds and behind his eye, which is why it's not noticeable most of the time. It's sorta shaped like an upside-down Nike symbol. In the video game "Pinball Panic", which has really detailed graphics for a simple little game, Randall also has another, apparently more recent scar, on the front of his chest, on the lower left side, just below his lower left arm, about where his "short ribs" would be. It's shaped like a upside-down horseshoe and is darker than the others. We've discussed Randall's scars many times on the Bogg's Board, and another member actually brought them up, so I'm obviously not the only person to notice them.
pitbulllady
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Wow. I never noticed those before
Also, I got the Monsters Inc Annual 2003, but I can't find where it says Randall's birthyear
Can you tell me which page it's on?
I sent you a note asking about this, but I don't know if you got it.
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I honestly cannot remember what page or even what else was on the page, and I can't find ANY of my M.I. books other than some of the little kiddie activity books since moving.
I did find one of the kiddie coloring/activity books, called "Who Glows There", which has stats on the characters. It says that Randall is 12.5 feet long, presumably from his lower lip to the tip of his tail, and weighs 275 pounds. HOWEVER, it also says that Sulley weighs 1846 pounds and is 8 feet tall, which contradicts that information in the Annual, so Randall's actual weight is probably not that much, maybe closer to 225. It also says that Mike was born with TWO eyes, which merged into one...and people think RANDALL is creepy?
pitbulllady
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Randall is a little more than 2x the head-to-toe length of the average human male. So he's probably a little more than twice the weight of a human male.
If Randall WAS 275 pounds, that would be the equivilant of a 130 lb human male. The ideal weight for a 5' tall man (that's how tall Randall is when he stands on four legs) is 106 lbs.
But Randall has a lot of muscle. He was able to strangle Sulley like a boa constrictor, and he was strong enough to physically overpower someone much larger than him. So that would all a decent amount of muscle weight. He also has a tail, which also adds weight that humans don't have.
Maybe one book said Sulley was 1,846 lbs and another said he was 1,460 because Sulley lost weight in between measurements! lol
Mike's eyes MERGED 
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Yeah, but you gotta consider that when Randall is standing on all-fours, with a height of five feet, that is just his upper torso and head, in other words, what would correspond for the most part to a human from just above the "belly button" up to the top of the head. Randall still has a lot more torso to go that is parallel to the ground, plus about 1/3 or a bit more of his overall length is tail, as you said. BUT, his legs are shorter and smaller in diameter than human legs, so I don't know if the combined weight of his four would equal the two of a comparable-sized human male or not. That tail would account for quite a bit, though, since it's very muscular at the base, and Randall is very muscular overall, and muscle is much denser and heavier than fat. When you consider that he kicked Sulley's massive butt, in spite of not being in tip-top physical shape(prolonged sleep deprivation will really screw you up), he's got to have some really dense muscle structure, and that would account for the weight.
Yeah, Mike's eye merged. I don't even want to imagine what that process must have looked like; and to think that human infants find teething to be bothersome!
pitbulllady
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I loled at he "Sulley's massive butt" comment
Unfortunatly I've got a pretty good image of what Mikes merging eye looked like
curse my overly-vivid imagination
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Thanks
I have a similar pic...but with organs.
I'm not sure weather or not I want to post it
I did it semi-quickly and it's not the best quality
Do you think I should post it?
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Well, give it a shot and we'll see.
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