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Published: 2005-07-02 15:30:21 +0000 UTC; Views: 2462; Favourites: 37; Downloads: 656
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I have not seen many prolific artists that are as good as .Bob manages to produce beautiful fractals everytime he pushes the render button. His pieces are not only beautiful, but of the highest rendering quality.
Apophysis is, after all this time, a program which has not unveiled its hidden secrets to most users. Eversince I started using it, I realized those beautiful renderings could never be the final piece. They should be only a part of more complex multilayered collages. The same goes for other excellent programs as Chaoscope and Xenodream. They should work in a way not exactly the way UltraFractal does but the Photoshop way. Only in this program, renders coming from those excellent pieces of fractal software may reach their full potential beauty.
I had given up making collages for the last months. But as I kept looking at those beautiful renders by *gateman45 , I knew I had to try once more, so I asked for his permission to try and he gladly said "go for it"! So, here it is.
I see a hot busy shore where creatures of all kinds enjoy a holyday in an ancient time, and I mean some millions ago by ancient! The central character, Mr. Cricket, seems to lead the whole pack of happy animals. What I donΒ΄t really know is whether they are waiting to be called for a camera test for 4500 Million Years and Sheltered Undersea or if they happen to actually be the offspring of the original characters depicted on those previous scenes! lol.
All programs mentioned above are represented in this collage, mostly Apophysis, but the Xenodream renders play an important role in the whole composition. The Chaoscope rendering is there adding a subtle yet definitive touch.
I used 24 of Bob's best pieces for this collage. You might not see that many individual images in here, as some of them were used to make up the background and texures. The original size is 6667 X 5000 . After all previous experience, actual coupling of all those images took only about 3 - 4hrs. mostly because my dinousar, sorry, pc at my office is way too slow. Nevertheless, you stats lovers should take into account the enormous amout of time it took Bob to create and render these 24 pieces in order to have an accurate perception of what's it all about!
The final psd file is almost 600 Mb. I am posting a zip file with
1024*768, 1280*960 and 1600*1200 resized images.
The original pieces by Bob that were used are as follows:
4 Rhiannon 4 Roger A Look Into Badge Cone Countertop Daylight Feathers Fire Fun With Discs Just To See Kelp Bed Metal Piece Mr. Cricket Goes To College Mr. Spiral Neon Leon Re - Occurrence Rotational 101 Rtvar3 Rv1 Shenk's Run Study In Orange Sunrise Xdbrass Thank Bob if you like this one!
Javier
July, 2005
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Simply stunning, Javier!
The fantastic Bob's fractals under your great "point of view" on them
Keep up doing your wonderful work!
Hugs
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You are most than welcome!
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Wow, you certainly did his work justice. Very nice. Each piece is beautiful in and of it's self, but you have managed to bring harmony to them as a whole. Impressive.
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Bueno, entonces escribe en nuestro idioma, paisano, que ya somos muchos por aquì, Gracias!
PD: Soy de Chihuahua, pero he vivido en Venezuela por casi 12 aΓ±os
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ahhh... jajaj se me va el royo! eres de chihuahua? 
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De la mera ciudad de Chihuahua. Un par de norteΓ±os! jejeje
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jejeej, hace un chingo que nadie me respondia un Si de esa manera. Gracias paisa!
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Ah! Yes! This is like your old collages! I absolutely adore it!
You inspire me to try one of my own.
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Wow, this is MEGA AMAZING 
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I just love your fractal collages Javier. You can see a 'bigger picture' that is not always apparent to some of us. Your creations are just so beautiful and I always want to stare and stare at them to make sure I don't miss anything. How you tie the fractals together and into the background is just amazing. Superb!
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Very nice work
Well thought out and composition is fantastic
Andrew
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sometimes simply I don't have words, maybe coz they are unneeded
And again 
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wow that is really awesome. One of the most unique fractal collages I have ever seen. My eye is drawn all over the place, I absolutely love the way you put this together with so much thought and care. What a wonderful way to showcase the works of your friend.
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Glad you like it, cause I was thinking to ask YOU to be the next. What do you say?
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OMG!!! I sit here with my jaw dropping & my eyes tearing up. I would be honored & am touched that you think highly enough of my simple works to want to do this; to showcase them in your own special marvellous way. I am stunned as I dont think my art is worthy of this, but know that you can make anything look good lol 
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heehe I'll grab some pics now. Will start working on it on wednesday, as tomorrow is a holyday here, I believe they celebrate the same as the US does on 4th of July, weird..... oh well 
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Thank you so much Javier! And take your time, enjoy your holiday. HOpe you have a good once celebrating with your loved ones.
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What a great collaborative work! Your amazing design capabilities Javier, and Bob's beautiful fractals. Just fantastic!
Suzanne
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What a beautiful collage!!! I love Bob's renders and now you have created the ultimate in displaying the beauty of each one!!! This is amazing artwork you have created, and picked a very apropriate title!!
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Thank you very much indeed!
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I stroke of genius, or should i say 2 genius's. Marvellous work
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One genius and a lucky opportunity seeker! 
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i have to dissagree with you. personally i think people who mess with a pure fractal too much take away from fractals. if you produce a really good fractal it doesnt need to twisted and contorted using other programs. really i understand that beauty is in the eye of the beholder but to it often is like taking the mona lisa and throwing a shitty looking photoshop filter on it and calling it beter.
that said, do what you feel is beautifull. thats the joy of art, make it for what you feel is art.
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It is your opinion, biased though, based on prejudices about purism imho, I don`t base my idea about art on those kind of rules, and have for some years be amazed that newer generations do what previous generations to mine used to do. Oh well, hope this does won`t start an unwanted thread.
BTW, doing that kind of things to the Gioconda is a valid art decission imho, it doesn`t guarantee the result will be an improvement or not, but it is valid anyway. If someone says it`s better, that's his/her own perception. If someone says it`s worse, that's his/her own perception too. I think for instance Metallica did a shitty job versioning Whisky in the Jar, as Thin Lizzy had produced the final version two decades before, but on the other hand, many songs from the 40's and 50's were much improved in following versions in the 60's and 70's. The same goes for any kind of art.
Back to what I originally tried to convey is this: Both Apophysis and Chaoscope, and to a certain extent Xenodream too, work with fractals against a most of the time black background. No matter what background they use anyway, the background itself is NOT a part of the fractal. SO, it is valid, and imho more valid, to assume that the fractal part of the rendering could be as well drawn against a transparent background. In fact, it should. If any of those programs were capable of working in a way as to produce the final render in a psd file with transparent background, perfect fractals could be transported to phoptoshop to work with them as an element of a more complex composition.
Other 3D programs work like that, and I guess you know it, 3DS, Poser, you name it, they do never produce a final render, what they produce is used either in complex animations or multiprogram 3D scenes, and no one says it`s wrong. Apo, Chaoscope and Xenodream, are 3D fractal programs. Why should the renders coming from them be treated differently? Can`t see no valid reason.
Finally, fractals are 3D objects found in nature all the time. Clouds, trees, crystals, shells etc. And ALL of them are part of multi-object scenes. Show me just one render of a non fractal 3D object that can`t be improved by being transported to a more complex scene and I will admit you`re just right!
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then you should look at a fractal pluggin for photoshop called kias power tools.
the big reason i prefer to see people like gatemans fractals is that he spends a long time fine tuning and coming up with a finished product that does not need manipulation. irony being what it is. i enjoy doing photomanipulations.
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BTW I have that plugin, I donΒ΄t like it too much. The fractal generator for PS I mean, the rest I use.
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IMHO I believe thatΒ΄s a wrong assumption. Deviants these days give excessive importance to time spent on a certain piece. Thta doesn't make it a valuable piece anyway. I've seen dozens of shitty pieces faved only because the artist said in the comments he/se spent weeks on the piece. ThatΒ΄s not Bob's case anyway.
Now, as you should know, no finished and polished and technically perfect product needs manipulation, as you should know, these are not done to improve the piece, but to create a different scene, with a different mood.
Just imagine for one moment that the creators of the fractal programs would have managed from the very first software verions, to give the user the option to select no background for the render. Users who would have selected that option would be looking at the pure fractal (indeed, what you are used to see is not the pure fractal, but a fractal on a usually black background). If such an option would be chosen, no matter how perfect the resultant image would be, something would have to be done with it. ThatΒ΄s not the case, but thatΒ΄s what I see in every render, so I try to imagine where can those beautiful fractals belong, I believe you canΒ΄t prove me wrong.
So, if I was to make a manipulation of fractal images, why should I choose the lousy ones? I chose the best. I asked BobΒ΄s permission and he said go for it, period.
Art is passion, only judge it by passion. Do not judge it by perfection, effort, time, or whatever. You are judging technology instead.
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After reading the inter action comments back and forth. Very well said Javier.
And the final summation... "Art is passion, only judge it by passion. Do not judge it by perfection, effort, time, or whatever. You are judging technology instead." 
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