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Published: 2018-06-02 09:38:15 +0000 UTC; Views: 18440; Favourites: 164; Downloads: 0
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My version of the Starship USS Discovery and the class of ships inspired by the original Crossfield-Class (which I view as being an NX-style ship similar to the Yorktown class battleship) .I used elements of the Yorktown, and some other Star Trek ships and made a Matt Jefferies style of delta-starship.
Backstory:
This class started out as the Pioneer class of deep-space Expeditionary Battleships built during the last years of the Earth-Romulan War of the late 22nd Century. By the time of the 4-years war with the Klingons, the Pioneer had been retrofit into the Yorktown Class and Crossfield class (a science-vessel variant of the Pioneer class). Of those two classess, the USS Discovery was the ship which saw the most action, and encountered bizarre alien technology which allowed a travel method similar to the slipstream drive Voyager would encounter hundreds of years later. From the alien tech USS Discovery encountered an new drive system was made. This new drive system--known as a Trans-Dimensional Warp Drive system--used a pair of modified warp engines that when their warp fields were overlapped (by bringing them close to each other) a wormhole could be formed for a short period of time. Due to the instability of the wormhole, three deflector/sensor arrays were needed to help navigate and maintain the wormhole the ship used to travel at warp speeds in excess of Warp 8. This drive concept led to the creation of the Transwarp drive system that would come out sometime later.
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Pizza slicer. Just the word I was looking for.
I rather like your take. She definitely looks the part of a TOS ship. It looks awkward how the right angle insides of the pylons lie flat against the hull when deployed, but find that a good thing since it fits perfectly into the robust "flip top" design aesthetic moving parts in ST's 23rd century lean towards. Also like how you integrated the variable geometry in the lore, a century before the environmental footprint of warp travel becomes a recognised issue - it is an interesting thought that there would be multiple competing transwarp concepts in the years leading up to Excelsior.
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Thank you.
I can't believe that the design team was okay with making a Star Trek show that was so silly in terms of fantastical technology.
Star Trek has had some crazy alien tech at times (Doomsday machine), but it was all still within the realm of science and realism.
The Pizza-Cutter/Slicer has not purpose. It's like they watched Galaxy Quest and though it was a Star Trek movie.
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the ship that Flips every time it uses warp, LOLOL
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Not my version.
I used the Voyager folding engines because I didn't want my Discovery to be stupid.
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Actually I was referring to THAT stupid animation 😂
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Ah, I see, so you're like me in thinking that ships with warp drives shouldn't have any major moving parts (one of the things I HATE about the Klingon BOP). I would not mind if the Klingon BOP was deployed by a larger craft and didn't have a warp drive, but weakening the warp-pylons by making them movable always bothered me. That's why I beefed mine up with buttress supports.
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Regardless I love the way the BoP looks when decloacking lowering its wings and swooping down on some victim👍
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I do also, but I think the ship is/was small enough to be a part of a larger ship (like a captain's yacht).
Maybe use a ship like the B10 as the main carrier with Warp Drive and have the BOP as a fast, sublight ship with cloaking tech (would also solve some of the power consumption problems).
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Actually in STO that's a thing. klingon dreadnought carriers have BoPs as fighters.
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Wow, I didn't know that.
I don't play STO anymore because it has become Star Trek Discovery Online, but that is interesting.
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No it's not that just one set of missions. They have them from every series & timeline including the mirror verse.
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I don't remember that.
I only played the Federation when I was playing.
Got hooked on Eve Online and cannot stop.
Very fun...though frustrating at times.................gankers.
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ever had a run in with the CLUSTERFUCK CONFEDERATION?
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No, the only group I've had problems with is CODE (like everybody else).
I was part of Latimous Armaments until we got our asses shot off by another corp and the corp president dissolved the corporation.
Now I'm with Harmony Order and we are at war with CODE...of course.
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What does CODE stand for?
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It's short for "ganking assholes"
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UM OK? sounds like EVE.
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Normal gankers will attack you to steal your stuff/gear.
CODE is suicidal in that they attack you in high-sec for no other reason than to destroy you.
Many times they don't even steal what you have (though some do).
I know, because after CONCORD blows them to atoms, I go and get what's left of my ships and cargo.
The players are just role playing the cult of CODE, but I don't understand throwing away so much ISK for nothing.
Seems like a waste of time.
Extortion I get.
Theft I get.
Suicidal fanatics, I don't understand.
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i notice you gave it variable geometry warp nacelles. like from the Intrepid class?
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Yes sir.
That was John Eaves original concept for the USS Discovery, but that nutjob Alex Kurtzman turned it into a spinning pizza-cutter.
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Give it a cloacking device fleet the warp nacelles, and you have federation BOP!
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Really, really good.
If I see your STD model, I could cry. STD can be so beautiful. Why did they, in their designs, have to ignore everything that has happened so far. And this damn "mushroom engine".
I stopped after episode 6, but friends told me the Enterprise appeared in the last episode!?! Then admit, I'm scared of the new season. I fear the worst for the interior of the Enterprise. I fear the worst of all for the bridge of the Enterprise.
But your models are just AWESOME. And the background story, WONDERFUL.
Thank you for sharing your models with other Star Trek fans.
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Thank you.
It is my pleasure to share.
The inspiration for my starships was respect for Matt Jefferies, Franz Joseph, Rich Sternback, and the myriad of other artists that for 50-years created the look and aesthetic feel of what is Star Trek.
I gave STD a try, and stopped at episode three (I recently watched Trekyards review of more of the episodes and agree with others that STD is horrid).
I don't know what Bryan Fuller and then Aaron Harberts were thinking.
Why they did this is beyond my comprehension.
It's like making a chocolate cake but instead of using chocolate icing you use Nutella and expect the fans to still like it. Sure by itself Nutella is good for other things like toast, but not for a chocolate cake. Same thing with STD. As a Scifi show it is not to bad, or even as an alternate universe of Star Trek combined with STE (Star Trek Enterprise) for a whole new universe of Star Trek. But as the Prime Star Trek universe it is like using Nutella for icing on a chocolate cake, it's too different and will turn off the majority of fans even though it is meant to emulate ST:TOS.
What I'm trying to do here (and will continue after the holidays when I have time again), is to build a Star Trek Classic Universe (STCU) that fans can use for their fanfitions (so long as I get credit), and fans can use for fan-films. My designs are 30% different than anything in Star Trek and that is intentional so as to meet the necessary copyright requirements (established by the Title 17 courts of the US over the last 100-years) to avoid these being direct copies. They are considered "original" because they are so different, yet they still look like Star Trek and could be used for fan-projects.
The USS Enterpise in STD is probably the best design in the show. The major problems with it is that it looks like a pre-JJ-Abrams Constitution class and NOT a pre-ST:TOS ship. In fact, all of the ships in STD look like they belong in the Kelvin Timeline. Even the Klingons ships could fit into the Kelvin universe.
Here is a good video by Trekyards of the new ship, it is HUGE compared to the ST:TOS ship.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDvBIo…
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You are welcome.
I've long suspected that STD should actually play in the Kelvin timeline.
But anyone, probably JJ Abrams or, better said,Bad Robot Productions, is involved alongside Paramount and CBS in the licensing rights for the Kelvin timeline.
At some point during the production of STD it came then to a dispute with this third license holder.
Maybe creative disputes, maybe financial disputes. I hope that it cretive problems were, but it is more likely that it was about the money. And so the approval of the third partner was withdrawn.
What should Paramount and CBS do now? Canceling the whole project would have been extremely embarrassing, especially if it had already been largely announced and the first trailer had been sent.
Start from scratch and redesign everything? Probably hundreds of thousands of dollars had already been invested. And to make everything new again would have devoured hundreds of thousands again.
The only financially "reasonable" solution: simple, very cheeky claim that the series belongs to the primary timeline.
And if the fans complain? Who cares? The main thing is the Audience measurement! And the advertising revenue!
And the plan has worked so far. The audience is so good that a second season has been announced for a long time.
But that's just my little conspiracy theory.
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Honestly, if I were Alex Kurtzman, I would do an aesthetic change to the first season digitally.
All of the footage is digital, and all of it therefore can be altered.
I would focus on the ships of both the Klingons and the Federation and make new Matt Jefferies-style designs that are modernized (like my designs only higher-polygon count and more refined), make the new models the same general shape as the existing Klingon and Federation ships, but make them conform to the original aesthetic. Like I did with the Klingon Sarcophagus ship.
I would then map and alter the Klingons in the show OR create an excuse that in order to combat the augment virus they had to inject an augmented Klingon DNA into their race that made them into the Klingorcs, and that the alteration would be temporary and fade with time.
However, that will only cover the looks of the show.
The storyline....well....that's another matter.
Perhaps they could use the 2nd season as a sort of "1st Season" for STD and then quietly sunset the 1st season and say that it is no longer "canon" since Fuller and Harberts are not part of the team and their vision does not conform to the standards of CBS or whatever kind of public relations BS they might want to throw at the fanbase.
The problem with STD is that the changes are so drastic, and the storyline so out of place for ST:TOS that they really ought to just add it to Star Trek Enterprise and make both shows their own universe. This would save them a considerable amount of money, allow them to continue on the path they are on with STD and keep the original Roddenberry Universe intact without pissing off their fanbase.
I really do not see any other alternative without spending a large sum of money to correct the mistakes of Fuller and Harberts.
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hate the show love your ship.
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Hello:
The side view looks magnificent! I almost thought that (in the fleet chart) it would have been the Enterprise 
I do like the backstory you gave the ship, how you wanted to keep a unique warp system for the ship as a direct predecessor to the Transwarp experiment. Also, fold-able nacelles! 
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Hi Chiletrek,
Thank you.
Told you I had my version of Discovery in the works.
You know how much I "love" the look of STD.
Really wish the people at CBS would have just paid Paramount whatever joint-royalty they needed to and made STD look like Star Trek.
It really grinds my gears that they made changes many fans are not happy with.
Yes, I wanted fold-able warp nacelles to tie the Crossfield class line of science vessel with the lineage of the USS Voyager/Intrepid class of starship. Since the Intrepid class has folding warp engines, I wanted Discovery to have them also and for a similar reason. The Quantum Slip-stream drive system is not discovered until Voyager encounters an alien race in the Delta-Quadrant in the episode "Hope and Fear". Because the Quantum Slipstream is similar to the transwarp drive system, I wanted to create a primitive version of the transwarp drive/quantum slipstream drive that would help construct some technological history for the creation of the transwarp drive system when Excelsior is built.
There will be one more Cross-field type (a tri-nacelle version) for deep space Galaxy Exploration. That won't get done for awhile though. I am still working on other ships, and I also need (at some point) to get back to the Nexus Arcana ships and mecha.
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Hello:
You are welcome! 
Oh well, maybe it could add more spice that I'd like to make an Axanar-ified Crossfield class at some point? 
Yes, to build a lineage to tie-in known stories and designs are things many people don't consider at all!, like the Delta ship to this Crossfield class to the future Intrepid class.
I thought the tri-nacelle ships were reserved for dreadnoughts, but maybe that third nacelle would be to either keep high-warp speeds for longer times, or to have an spare?
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Hi Chiletrek,
An Axanar-style Crossfield class?
CBS' heads would explode.
Honestly CBS should just have taken Alec Peters ship designs since they had every right to do so, and used them for STD.
CBS all-access wouldn't be in financial trouble if they had done that.
The Public Relations excuse was that Star Trek Discovery was over and so people cancelled. The problem with that lie is that people dropped CBS All Access BEFORE STD's season was over.
www.wsj.com/articles/streaming…
It's pretty easy to find out why Star Trek fans rejected STD.
It was not the story (which is not bad), nor the acting (not great....but...this is Star Trek, since when has the acting ever been good.
The problem is the artistic style chosen for the show and the total rejection of the previous aesthetic.
It was a horrid turn-off and the show has suffered as a result.
I look forward to your versions of these spacecraft. Your models are excellent and I know they'll be fantastic.
Tri-nacelle is actually just an upgrade/retrofit for a design that is being extended to keep it in service according to Admiral Riker in the ST:TNG's final episode "All Good Things".
Just like the quad-nacelles, a tri-nacelle configuration is used to increase speed, and power output for the ship.
Naturally that is desirable on a Dreadnought, but it is also desirable for a ship that is going into the nether reaches of the galaxy (where no man has gone before).
For my USS Discovery Phase-III ship, it will be to truly achieve Transwarp Drive by using a third nacelle (that will later become unnecessary due to the Excelsior style of Warp Engines). I may even call it a Tri-Grade (word play on Tardigrade) Transwarp Drive system.
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Hello:
I am a physics teacher, making heads to explode is my specialty
Really? people cancelled the service even before the season was over? ouchie! . As for aesthetics... it was the same turn-off I've got with many of the added STO ships *doon't kill me people*... but really, I dislike many of STO's ships just as I dislike many of STD's ships. SO I understand why the show suffered (also pew-pew guns).
Thank you very much for the vote of confidence
So there are good arguments for the tri-nacelles? Then that means I should return that into the drawing board for my Starfleet fleet. My custom timeline should have a dreadnought too, because Klingons are fierce no matter the universe... and because Excelsiors shouldn't be mass-produced in that period
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