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KyraShangea — How to Critique
Published: 2007-11-27 05:09:33 +0000 UTC; Views: 20217; Favourites: 304; Downloads: 210
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Apparently, all of a sudden, .gif files are not allowed for tutorials. What the hell? Then make it possible to have preview images! -is mad now-I find myself again doing a tutorial.
Sorry, but this time it really isn't funny. x3; I genuinely want people to actually learn how to critique.
So, I hope that you enjoy it, and learn a thing or two about critique. ;D It helps to -cough- spread it around too.
Not enough thumbnail space!
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You want to look at 'em closer? o.o They're in my gallery.
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hahahah, all of your tutorials makes me goes lol XD
and it's -maybe for the future- useful too 
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"See the example of the comment on the left" I kinda let out a small laughter there, I am very sorry, but it's to the right
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OMG PEOPLE ARE POINTING OUT THE BEST ERRORS. It's making me laugh so hard.
Thanks. XD
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haha shit happens :'D glad to point it out for you!
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This is another really great tutorial. I run a group called 'Critique Community' in which we try to promote not only critique but also community activity. Mind if I place a link to this on our page?
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Go right ahead. ^^ Thank you!
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haha "Oh, they're an elf! Hence the pointy ears..."
That made my morning
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lol! I also REALLY agree with this one!!! A friend of mine got a DD for the first time and it resulted in a really dumb flame war... If this had happened, we all could have been a little happier. Thank you for putting this out there!!!
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Stupid flame wars... don't people have more important things to do?
Like read www.cracked.com?
Or check Facebook?
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LMAO! RIGHT!!!! Thanks for the comments back!
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Great tutorial! I'm a bit tired of people getting pissed when I give proper critiques, just because I have some pieces myself that I don't want critique on. My opinion is that people should be allowed to give critiques to those who doesn't write "Critique not desired", even though they might not like to get critiques themselves. I hope this tutorial will learn people to write good critiques.
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You and me both will keep to hopin'. ^^
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I guess it's a good thing I do this when I critique. xD
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I've seen a plenty of people who are capable of giving very good critique... But they leave out the compliments. I've tried telling them that compliments need to be there, even if they think there's nothing good in there. Next time I end up in a situation like that, I'm throwing this at them.
Love the tutorial stick figures.
~Lukki
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I agree with that. You just gotta point out the strong parts. But I've heard many excuses far and in between that "Complimenting? Sorry, I don't sugarcoat. It's not my style." To "Sorry that's my style. Don't like? Tough." And like you said, "Nothing is good about this piece. It deserves no compliments"
Too many people think style of critique makes them a speshul snowflake critic of somesort, and not pointing out a strong point is something that only pussies do or because they are too blind to try to find something positive in a piece. Every piece has a positive aspect. They just need to stop pouting and look harder.
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Yep, sounds about correct when I consider the one person I've had. I recall them giving at least one of each of those excuses.
Curiously, it would seem that critics don't take critique very well. 
~Lukki
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I've heard it from many critics. It's amazing how expressing something positive about one little thing on someone's work is automatically gonna make you a "sugarcoating pussy". A lot of the time, people use critique as a thinly veiled insult. Even if it is well done, they might have an axe to grind against someone they know or don't know. And people get away with it calling it their "style". Not all negative art critics do that, but I've seen the Critique system abused sooooo damn much by kids who think it's a clever way to get back at someone.
Yeah that's even more funny when they can't handle a pinch of critique themselves but they can critique just fine in a very harsh way. Try not to change it for the better? Yeah right. 
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Something negative can be said about anything, even positive things. You try to make everyone happy and suddenly you're a filthy people-pleaser. And other stuff like that, which I can't currently remember. I've come to the conclusion that humankind just loves to hate.
Sometimes envy can be behind insults. "Why is this more popular than my stuff, mine is way better". Things like that. And even then, people could just hate the style. I'm pretty sure picking anything seen on the front page and going through the comments would make one discover negative comments.
Think I'm wandering off-topic here... Back on track. A lot of people don't seem to know how to do proper critique anyway. Some of them may actually believe that asking for critique is basically asking for insults.
An important ability is to be able to not take certain people seriously.
~Lukki
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I've seen that happen to people. X-X; People pleasers and people who tried to do good too much, ended up hurting their reputation in the end because they got too obsessed with appearing good and popular to everyone... Some can take it far which is sometimes why people who do too many things to others get the stick end of everything. Then there are those who try to help, a good amount (no overdoing it) Then they get their hands slapped in return for helping. Which is inherently sad because helping should go rewarded. But sometimes, people don't take help nicely, or they take help and don't give back (Which is quite frequent) to their helper.
True! People can be jealous of the art so they say something snarky. Or they just don't like the style so they can't find good in it. Front page critics are great offenders and the best example of "Poorly constructed critique." They don't even have to use the critique feature to do that. It's just..... that people are attracted to popular things, or are just plain curious about it. Then they get mad either cause a) it's really good and they can't draw as well b)It's popular and I don't see why this is so great. c)gee I draw much better than this, why does this get all the views and my art doesn't >:V d)I'm gonna blame the artist for their piece getting popular because anything that is popular is automatically overrated and bad in my eyes. e) I'm so butthurt, I like to troll the front page and DD's because they don't deserve any attention.
That's about the gist of it. So much hate over something popular too will get poorly construed critiques.
Oh yeah, the ever classic "Well you asked for it!" Like as if they deserved to be insulted cause Critique somehow calls for it. Lol, when most register what "Critique" is, they think of people criticizing something and complaining. So they automatically think, "Oh, I see, so this artist wants to be told what is BAD about this piece, *cracks knuckles* I can do that no problem! This will be fun, I can let off some steam if I feel like it ^_^."
Lol, also ignoring pisses them off as well. They want you to respond as well. I haven't seen any critic get mad if you don't take them seriously. They usually play along; i.e: critique trolls do that. P:
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Never really knew what was wrong about people who try to keep others content... But I suppose it can be a problem if they get obsessive about it, yes. Personally I try to keep everyone happy. When they start making demands that are completely opposite and there's no middle ground, I just feel like stomping out of the room. I like helping otherwise, though. I don't really expect anything in return, since the act of helping is its own reward. Luckily I haven't encountered any foul personalities that way yet.
Being the practical person that I am, I can't see what the point is in hating those kinds of things. I wondered this once and came to the conclusion that hating is just a natural part of being human. But yeah, all those reasons are possible, probably common, too. f) All of the above.
Even without the misconception of critique being equal to insults, it's a fairly tricky subject. I usually welcome critique, but never ask for it because I know most things I did wrong in my works. Those who don't put thought into it would only repeat things to me that I already know.
I haven't encountered any trolls on my page yet. 
~Lukki
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When there is no comments, it's criticism, not critique. At least, that's my view.
Thank you! ^^
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Hmm, never thought about it that way. 
You're welcome.
~Lukki
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D8 I miss the "critique not desired" and the other options too!! This is full of cute stick faces XD
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Hmmm, this picture seems weak around the shoulders and the legs look a little short perhaps if you- what do you mean not a person.... glasses? why yes they're- not on my face you say? This is actually a tutorial.... you're not lying to me are you Johnson? Put on the glasses? Fine, but I don't see how it will hel- Oh my god! Johnson! Why didn't you tell me this was a tutorial! After I gave all that pointless advice too... Oh Johnson... I've been a fool. Why yes, I'd love some cookies.
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Johnson is my faithful butler, and he makes cookies like no one's buisness...
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so this is for the butthurt, who only want praise, or am i misinterpreting this, not all art should be complimented
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It's a mix of sarcasm and a good message. 
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I've never given critique, maybe I should try. . .
Meh, I'm better at compliments. Your other tutorials are funny.
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Very true and cleverly put together
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I don't blame people that really don't have time.
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It's definitely a fair comment hun. So many people also only fave and don't bother to comment.
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Ah well. As long as artwork is appreciated in the end?
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This is very helpful! I hope more people learn from this!
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A lot of good ideas ! Everyone should read it.
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