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Published: 2017-08-26 16:23:28 +0000 UTC; Views: 9549; Favourites: 130; Downloads: 0
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With the first installment of the story taking place in the Spanish Civil War, I thought it would be quite a change to see and get to know some German soldiers before they became a world power. The Soviets and Nazis were restricted, by law, from participating in the conflict but easily found loopholes through volunteerism. Even though the main character will be Spanish he can get to know a couple of Germans pre-world war II; I think it would be quite interesting.fairly pleased with the way this turned out, but the dude with the helmet is my fav.... he looks so hardcore. despite their characters being well developed I'm still working on names.
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Wars is peace, slavery is freedom, ignorance is strength.
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A very dangerous quote...
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only to those who see such thing ar a threat
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it was a goob book
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George Orwell was an interesting character.
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He did have a way of geting his point across
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Ja DankeschΓΆn!
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That's a pretty tough looking SS there with an Iron Cross. I love the character designs of the guys they look great! Love the boots
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Auf wiedersehen FOLKS!!!
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"I OWN ROME!!!! not you..... not the pope...." lol (proof that your getting to em') going for the Rommel with the general but I might just need a Christopher Plummer!
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Haha! Yep. He said it with that uncertain quiver in his voice too. Perfect scene. Also who could keep their cool with Gregory Peck giving you that stare. lol
Oh! A Christopher Plummer would be awesome! "You're too greedy Hirsch!"Β
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Far right looks like Hogan from Hogan's Heroes xD
excellent job btw
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Uh-oh! Hogan's disguising himself again; they better figure it out and soon! (I just love that show!) lol
Thanks alot!
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hehe yw.
(Hogan's Heroes is life)
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Looks awesome. I trully love your style. Stylish, full of subtle details without overwhelming the eye, yet simple in the same time.
I too like the the SS soldier the best, though he is a bit out of place in this time period. If I'm not mistaken while the Waffen SS existed before WW2, it wasn't a military force and haven't seen combat before. It's first divisions were created in 1939. Naturally, if it exceeds the historical time period then I see no reason why they couldn't fight there.
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Thanks alot, I appreciate your observation. It isn't easy to make uniforms and such look as close to history as possible.
Well, this character line up isn't exactly just for the Spanish Civil War; the two on the right will be in the first installment but the SS soldier will actual be in the second which takes place in and around the Warsaw Uprising.Β What you said about the Waffen SS is true and the Nazi government supplied the nationalist (Spanish Civil War) with tanks and planes but didn't seem to loan any infantry units... I think that's right. lol
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You're welcome. Yeah, that's why prefer making my own history.
And in that case, my point is irrelevant. They'll get their time to shine. And yeah, the nationalists recieved more aid from the italians than from the germans. Though that's not suprising, back then Italy was the leading Axis power. Indeed, germans mostly had pilots, artillery/tank crewman and advisors poured into the war.
Though ashamed to admit, but I know very little about the SCW. Aside a few articles read and watching Ay, Carmella, my knowledge is rather limited. Was a too one-sided fight to catch my attention, despite it's lenght and death toll.
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lol, that would solve some problems and allow you to "cut loose" and have some fun! not a bad Idea there.
yeah lol, I didn't know much about it until a few years ago when I showed some interest.Β It was one of the more strange and confusing conflicts of the 20th century.Β My story will sort of be about a village in the countryside that simply attempts to survive but eventually ends up having to defend themselves from both Republican and Nationalist guerillas due to their neutrality. I think it will be interesting.
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Yeah. Only problem that you have to come up with everything, but I'll say it's worth the prize. You can do anything without desecrating anyone's memory.
And yeah that sounds interesting. I guess then is that this village will be around the fronts thatΒ pendulum back and forth, where siding with either side could be the end of the village. Still, looking forward to it... though one can guess who will be the winning horse.
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I see why it could be difficult and has it's benefits.Β I hate it when, especially with my American friends, they do historical fiction and end up disgracing important people in our history... seems stupid even if they were the enemy.Β I try to be as respectful as possible.
I figure that almost everyone knows who wins the conflict... so I can add some intensity were the reader doesn't know which character will survive.
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Yeah, that's the worst case, when it's intentional. However even, if you are trying to be respectful, you might fell on the other side of the fence and become disrespectful by being too respectful to the people to whom you shouldn't be. History is a muddy ground and all the time researching it to be accurate could be invested into making your own. Though one always have the benefit of nearly everyone know about it, when it comes to historical fiction.
Yeah, the only suspense one could do with a historically accurate fiction. Though that needs some character writing so people would be invested in them. Best of luck to that.
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I like the one in the middle. Looks like the friendly grandfatherly type.
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Yeah he kinda is... I was going to have him be SS but switched him to Wehrmacht and made him more of a Erwin Rommel type character. I think it would be interesting to have a German general with his disposition be a more main character in a story... haven't really seen that before.
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Neat.
I remember once reading a book called Devil's Guard about some of the SS soldiers who went to fight in Vietnam after WWII. (They were in there before the US.) It was interesting. It was marketed as fiction, but was apparently based off a true story.Β
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That sounds quite interesting, might have to look into that.Β It's amazing how different the Wehrmacht was from the SS and I think it might be cool to see the conflict between an SS officer and a Wehrmacht general that don't see exactly eye to eye on things.
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And from what I've gathered, the fighter pilots were different too, since it seemed like their job was just to shoot planes down, not kill the pilots. (There are some rather interesting stories about the pilots going and taking the enemy out for a few drinks after shooting him down.)
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The Luftwaffe and Wehrmacht did seem to have a bit of separation from the war crimes, maybe the Luftwaffe a little more so than the army. I was wondering how we have so many photos of Nazi war crimes, such has mass shootings and hangings, and as it turns out some of the Nazi propaganda Wehrmacht photographers documented such things and kept the photos/videos hidden from their commanding officers.Β Such material was used to expose war criminals after the war, with the photographers testifying against them.Β Those men put their lives at risk to, in the end, put a stop to the Nazi regime.Β It's amazing the things you find only when you go looking for it and the unsung heroes you discover.
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Interesting. I remember reading a book about one pilot who never believed that those images of body piles were actual war crimes and not just something from bombings.
Sad thing is, war crimes are rarely punished when it's the winner who commits them, and I think those get swept under the rug or justified.
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Yeah, it is weird when a soldier or soldiers think highly of themselves and their side and never believe the evils that were committed; but on the other hand some of the perpetrators confess.Β Many commanding officers, mainly speaking for the American army, attempted to bring their subordinates to justice (for the Dachau Camp Reprisals or the Chenogne massacre at the bulged ect.) but their accusations were dismissed due to the fact that it "wouldn't look good." but that's what happens when politicians get involved in war.Β From what I hear their were some odd moments at veteran meetings when officers knew what their men did and that they had attempted to bring them to justice.
Then you have the Ronald Speirs indecent which is really unclear but leads mainly towards him being a war criminal but it was never investigated and most of the men under himΒ feared him because of the things he did. The HBO series Band of Brothers (I've never seen the entire show mainly due to the language and other explicit content.) showed Speirs and other American Soldiers committing war crimes and how they were viewed by their partners, giving an interesting spin to the war story.Β From all the counter research I have done, everything in that series is fairly accurate.
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I haven't done a ton of research on the incidents, so I don't know the names, in part because it gets so depressing. I've heard stories about German soldiers being locked in concentration camps to starve(and this isn't even going into what happened to the POWs sent to the Soviet Union), and then I know my grandpa said in Korea, there was stuff going on with being ordered to fire on refugees. (His group didn't follow those orders.)
A really good book on the situation in WWI and WII is this one.Β www.goodreads.com/book/show/84β¦ It really gave a good and simple overview of how far back things went.Β
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yeah, I know what you mean about 'depressing' when I discovered the Babi Yar massacre, directly perpetrated by Paul Blobel and his SS, I was disturbed for days; some images can't be unseen. The saddest thing about that event is that due to the eyewitness accounts and the confessions of the murders coinciding with the photos and documentation we know exactly what took place... the disregard for human life is chilling. Always disobeying immoral orders is a heroic deed and is actually what God calls upon soldiers in the service to do.Β Seems like an interesting book, your giving me to much to read lol.
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It looks like you like reading.Β
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These guys looks cool! It would be interesting to see these different nationalities at this era interacting.
The way you drew these guys, they look like classic actors, but can't put my finger on who they remind me of. Except the guy on the right, I think I've seen him on Star Trek.
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Thanks! Iβve always been interested in periods of history right before large scale events, itβs amazing to see the views or ideas of the future that people had and how quickly they changed.
I was going for a Burn Gorman look but found that he had played a nazi in a Hungarian film, so I change him up a lilβ and by mistake came out with something that looks a little bit like David Hedisonβ¦ but not all the way so he bears the resemblance of quite a few people. lol
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That's true! We can look back and know how things happened, but to imagine how people in that time felt then.~
I have a story I'm trying to develop that is partially set in pre-WWII. Although that's because the story is sci-fi and involves time-travel. But I'm not good at history, so I will need to do my research, because I know I don't know enough of that time period.
Haha! Well, that's the advantage of illustrating your own characters, you don't have to choose a single actor, but they can have a look all their own, as they would if they were real.
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Depending on the outcome of the event I'd ether be grateful it didn't turn out the way people wanted it too, or it makes me SICK.
Sounds like an interesting story... time-travel is always fun because than you're not exactly grounded in a genre... gives you some freedom.
yeah, I always like drawing people and often times when I tell myself I want someone to look like somebody I can't help but merge some people together lol.
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Lol! Yeahhhhh, that's true.
It does to a certain point. Although, in this case, the main character doesn't change history much, so I anticipate being able to stick to the facts as much as I can.
Lol! Well I think that's good! Afterall, if characters were real people, they wouldn't look like just any one actor.
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I'm interested in this story of yours... gonna have to tell us little be more about some time. lol
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Haha, I would love to reveal more about it! I have quite a bit of it worked out in my head, but there's still alot of it that needs to be brought to life. I should start doing concept art of it though.
I will say he tries to escape the events of twentieth century earth to go to Saturn's moon Titan.
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you really should, I'm be excited!
oh... when you need to escape, get as far away as you can! lol
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The trouble is, I'm not a skilled story writer at all. And I'm also a perfectionist, so it might make me take longer then ever as I keep revising the story.
Yep, that's for sure! He would have used his time machine again, but that's broke. So an escape rocket is the next best thing.
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