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Published: 2014-06-02 00:32:50 +0000 UTC; Views: 11759; Favourites: 163; Downloads: 17
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Got this idea after reading someone's journal saying that SEGA is repeating the, "Making characters no one cares about" after the character Sticks was finally given a name, even though I see her as the american version of Marine. And then it hit me, other franchises have featured so many characters and yet nobody goes bat shit crazy over that. Just goes to show that the Sonic fanbase is the most sensitive fanbase of them all.All things belong to their owners, as I own nothing
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Ok, that's what you meant. Right. Misunderstanding on my part.
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Nah, it's okay...
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But Mega Man is just called Mega Man. The same idea of naming the franchise after one character.
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I know. No one says Pokemon has too many characters and Pokemon has THOUSANDS of characters (if you count both the Pokemon and the humans).
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Sonic and Mario do NOT have too many characters! I would be perfectly fine if the suddenly add 50 more!
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Street fighter's characters play differently. Are you really going to make the arguement that having a roster that large in a speeding platformer would be any good? If no one plays a character, they get cut out. Blade didn't appear again for a reason.
Mega Man fights robot masters once because they're returned to their jobs afterwards. Or they die because Megaman blew them up.
Also, Mega Man has several incarnations, like X, Zero, Legends, etc., and some of them don't follow the classic format because they don't have robot masters.
Mario brings characters back because people like them. The only time that didn't happen was Geno, because of copyright issues. You think people actually CARED about Pauline? No, they all thought she was Peach, so she was phased out. Foreman Spike? They have Wario and Waluigi for that. The only reason Fawful showed up for more than one game was because people liked him better than Cackletta.
Sonic has no excuse. Their characters are two-dimensional (ESPECIALLY ARCHIE CHARACTERS) and only exist for gameplay reasons or to keep people interested in extremely bland storylines. Robotnik has a new robot! What do we do? Meet a new character and ram ourselves into it. Chaos emeralds are usually involved.
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This hasn't been true since 2008. They stopped introducing new characters, and started using only Sonic, Tails, and Eggman again.
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Well, Sonic Lost Balls had retard Knuckles and useless Amy.
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They were just cameos, so they don't count.
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Name the last time Sonic's friends actually did anything and were anything more than cameos.
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That's a spin-off title.
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I'm talking about in terms of the main series here.
The platformers, not spin-offs like Riders or the Olympics.
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I'm a Sonic fan and I agree. The reason I feel I personally feel like the Sonic series has too many characters is because it has too many characters the series can utilize. Out of all the mainstays, only a few of them ever show up in game. Having that many characters wouldn't be a problem if they all had some legit purpose. An example of this being that Knuckles is arguably one of the most useful characters in the series because he is the Master Emerald guardian and should be a more active character due to the Master Emerald being able to neutralize or empower the Chaos Emeralds, but he's misused or straight up underused and gets the dumb muscle treatment.
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"I'm a Sonic fan and I agree. The reason I feel I personally feel like the Sonic series has too many characters is because it has too many characters the series can utilize."
That's not really true at all. It's not that they can't be utilized, it's the fact that they choose not to, but that doesn't mean complain because it has a lot of characters either.
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Eh, the point still remains that the underuse of certain characters and the need to throw in more and more characters that are likely never going to be used again, still gives the illusion of too many characters. It's funny cuz I just finished talking to a friend who told me how the continuous addition of characters ends up making them all hard to keep track of and none of them memorable, to which I have mixed thoughts on.
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They aren't hard to keep track of, and the fact that Sonic Heroes exists pretty much kills the point, IIRC, it has the record of using the most characters in a platforming game. Too many characters or not, people need to STFU about and stop making it more difficult as it is. Plus, Sega has barely introduced any characters since Unleashed that have actually stayed in the series, so there's been no need to keep track of them for almost 8 years.
What find hilarious though, it's never a problem with many other games with a lot of characters, as the meme puts it, it's only the sonic series that gets that or any other complaint that many games usually have.
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There's really no point in arguing about much of anything Sonic because Sonic fans ALWAYS have something to complain about. Between having too many characters, useless characters, annoying/boring/unlikable characters, fanservice characters (namely Shadow and Rouge), or even underutilized characters there's always going to be some sort of argument that stems from characters alone, and that's not even getting into the flamewars over who "is best character" or worse, the Sonic character porn...
Point of the matter is, the Sonic series has stooped to a massive pile of suck, and the loads and loads of characters is not the only reason for it. The fact that the series as a whole "sucks" to the vast majority is why Sonic gets ragged on. Once something is established to be "terrible", everything about it is considered as such.
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" The fact that the series as a whole "sucks" to the vast majority is why Sonic gets ragged on."
The sonic fanbase gets ragged on because many of loud mouths act like man children and constantly try to justify it. The franchise sucking is not what we get ragged on about, but that's exactly why it's sells stagnated and dropped after Colors came out. Most other games don't even give a shit about us or Sonic to rag on us completely. Then again, I don't know why I'm saying us, I wasn't apart of the bullshit Nintendo fanboys started over 10 years ago.
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I DID mention flamewars, didn't I? (hint: YES I did) The series gets ragged on for many reasons, justified or not, the subjective yet not entirely unjustified opinion that the series sucks is part of it no matter how much any fan wants to deny it, because it's not just the games that give the series that rep, it's the fanbase as well. There is literally NO pleasing the fanbase, especially considering there is a Classic vs Modern divide in the fandom.
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You made it out as if this series sucks WAS the entire reason we get ragged on, as if you're trying to pass the blame away from the people who kept over exaggerating the rep of the games in the first place. Also keep in mind that outside these forums and websites, Sonic games were still popular among your average gamer elsewhere.
Also, a lo of you guys need to get off that "There's NO pleasing the fanbase" when it's just a minority that being louder then everyone else, and they don't represent the entire fanbase. The classic and modern divide is also bullshit because many of the same people who were talking about "Sonic needs to go back to his roots" were the same people who started praising modern games once Colors came out. There was no real divide, it was fanboys switching up and constantly repeating their arguments over and over again. The only divide is Sonic fans and Nintendo fanboys, because they started this shit when SA2 was ported to the gamecube. People were actually cool with that game until they showed up and making complaints.
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Hmm whatever you say, dude. There's no sense in arguing with me man. I'm stubborn. If I'm wrong and think I'm right, let be wrong and find that out for myself. It'll save you a lot of time.
I don't know why you're putting me in the "you guys" category. I'm a fan, but I'm not in the fandom (or in this case, the fanDUMB). And it's true that there's no pleasing the fanbase. I go by what I've assesed within the fanbase and it's a serious broken base. There are people who are just fine with most of the games, and those who almost always, if not entirely always have something to whine about, even going so far as to rage about Sonic's ARMS being blue in Sonic Boom (cough Chris-chan). PS Some fans did rag on Sonic Colors because they felt it ripped off of Mario Galaxy, despite the fact that it's seen as one of few "good" games in the modern era, as of late. SA2 was good, but it lacked some things that would have made it a masterpiece, especially if you truly delve into its story without playing Shadow the Hedgehog, there are a lot of questions raised due to the lack of detail in some areas of its plot, but if you're the type who's not playing it for its plot, that part won't bother gamers that just want to platform at the speed Sonic is, or rather, used to be known for, and thanks for reminding me of something, rabid Sonic fans will oftentimes accuse people of being Nintendo/Mario fanboys when said person doesn't like the Sonic series, whether their alleged fanboyism is legit or otherwise. No divide, eh? This video disagrees with you... www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCIaNhβ¦
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So basically you say you're stubborn and let you be wrong, excusing yourself so you can keep making judgements when you don't anything but what you've seen on the surface. If that's the case, there was little point in you making that wall of text. One of the biggest problems with YOU GUYS is that you refuse to learn and constantly justify yourselves for being ignorant, and throw the blame out all will nilly.
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You're still typing back comments to me? Now who's the stubborn one? I gave you a way out and you didn't take it.
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You don't give a way out by typing a wall of text. You can either just stop commenting on don't leave that much shit to look at.
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*yawn* You done, m8?
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Whenever you are, son.
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Hmm whatever you say, dude. There's no sense in arguing with me man. I'm stubborn. If I'm wrong and think I'm right, let be wrong and find that out for myself. It'll save you a lot of time.
I don't know why you're putting me in the "you guys" category. I'm a fan, but I'm not in the fandom (or in this case, the fanDUMB). And it's true that there's no pleasing the fanbase. I go by what I've assesed within the fanbase and it's a serious broken base. There are people who are just fine with most of the games, and those who almost always, if not entirely always have something to whine about, even going so far as to rage about Sonic's ARMS being blue in Sonic Boom (cough Chris-chan). PS Some fans did rag on Sonic Colors because they felt it ripped off of Mario Galaxy, despite the fact that it's seen as one of few "good" games in the modern era, as of late. SA2 was good, but it lacked some things that would have made it a masterpiece, especially if you truly delve into its story without playing Shadow the Hedgehog, there are a lot of questions raised due to the lack of detail in some areas of its plot, but if you're the type who's not playing it for its plot, that part won't bother gamers that just want to platform at the speed Sonic is, or rather, used to be known for. No divide, eh? This video disagrees with you... www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCIaNhβ¦
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Hmm whatever you say, dude. There's no sense in arguing with me man. I'm stubborn. If I'm wrong and think I'm right, let be wrong and find that out for myself. It'll save you a lot of time.
I don't know why you're putting me in the "you guys" category. I'm a fan, but I'm not in the fandom (or in this case, the fanDUMB). And it's true that there's no pleasing the fanbase. I go by what I've assesed within the fanbase and it's a serious broken base. There are people who are just fine with most of the games, and those who almost always, if not entirely always have something to whine about, even going so far as to rage about Sonic's ARMS being blue in Sonic Boom (cough Chris-chan). PS Some fans did rag on Sonic Colors because they felt it ripped off of Mario Galaxy, despite the fact that it's seen as one of few "good" games in the modern era, as of late. SA2 was good, but it lacked some things that would have made it a masterpiece, especially if you truly delve into its story without playing Shadow the Hedgehog, there are a lot of questions raised due to the lack of detail in some areas of its plot, but if you're the type who's not playing it for its plot, that part won't bother gamers that just want to platform at the speed Sonic is, or rather, used to be known for. No divide, eh? This video disagrees with you... www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCIaNhβ¦
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What about you just shut up and stop being an idiot?
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Sonic has too many characters they just flat out don't use.
Having a bunch of essentially useless characters gives off the ILLUSION that there's too many.
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Your comment's a real mind-opener. I somewhat get your philosophy! 
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* Quietly wishes the Babylon Rouges would return :I *
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Truer words have never been spoken.
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Nice point.
And I can totaly argeed they seem toΒ making characters that no one cares about.
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YES! Thank you for pointing this out!
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Same here. I don't mind there being too many characters. It's just balanced for me.
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Same here about what you said.
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I agree with you and even though I freaking love this medium till my death....but don't even get me started on anime.
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Nintendo should USE more of the Mario characters.
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Dont forget pokemon
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