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Menaria β€” Strict Soldier's guide for MvM: Soldier (part 3)

Published: 2014-01-05 23:29:39 +0000 UTC; Views: 15539; Favourites: 82; Downloads: 54
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Description Last part is here! Yup, that was pretty quick compared to other releases.
Look's like MrCrazyGuy didn't do the worst job after all!

EDIT: While digging trough rage comments on Reddit I discovered something that really required to be changed in the comic - From what I heard Direct Hit's damage can be upgraded only by 3 points instead of 4 like in any other rocket launcher. That makes this weapon completely useless, since it can't even advance in dealt damage.

Hey Reddit! I said that DH "is good but it is not" only to avoid more shitstorm from your side, since I saw a lot of people using it (but apparently this is a lose/lose business). No worries, I won't care for anybody anymore.

EDIT: Beggar's Bazooka is now as good as Stock Rocket Launcher. It's a matter of personal preferences now.

next: fav.me/d75weol
Previous: fav.me/d6zqzza
Intro: fav.me/d6ehk9m

Special thanks to:
For fixing the script and being Strict's buddy!
For being Strict's victim!
For a cool SFM trick!
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Comments: 87

yttriumtyclief In reply to ??? [2014-02-12 01:38:09 +0000 UTC]

Right-o.

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Desumo In reply to ??? [2014-02-10 19:04:02 +0000 UTC]

Reddit people sure get angry, don't they

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Menaria In reply to Desumo [2014-02-10 19:07:06 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, this episode caused a really big shitstorm there.

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MonsterMan25 In reply to ??? [2014-01-06 18:04:45 +0000 UTC]

also, a note from experience on the battlefield with Strict himself, any of you sorry maggots even so much as TOUCH a rocket jumper in MvM, you will be kicked from the server so hard you'll feel like it was a Ban Hammer up your ass!

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ExplodingPotato In reply to ??? [2014-01-06 16:01:53 +0000 UTC]

Looking much better with the shadows. Nice work!

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MonsterMan25 [2014-01-06 10:29:21 +0000 UTC]

I will follow each and every instruction directly, SIR

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NarneyBrickman In reply to ??? [2014-01-06 08:14:33 +0000 UTC]

I am very nicely surprised that someone ACTUALLY chooses a rocket launcher instead of a bazooka... that thing is like a plague these days, don't use it? Votekick on most teams. Whiiiich is why I stick by scout most of the time .-.Β 

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DearMrUnicorn In reply to NarneyBrickman [2014-01-06 10:26:54 +0000 UTC]

no reason to stick to scout, its really fun to play as soldier, and the only way to get better and to not get kicked is by getting skills use the default a little while and you will feel like the Rocket Launcher/Original is simply a part of your body!

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NarneyBrickman In reply to DearMrUnicorn [2014-01-06 11:35:23 +0000 UTC]

It's funny cause original is like the painis gun c:Β 


...okay I'll go sit in the corner now

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DearMrUnicorn In reply to NarneyBrickman [2014-01-06 11:50:45 +0000 UTC]

never heard that one before... I like it ! but im sure you cant be that bad?

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NarneyBrickman In reply to DearMrUnicorn [2014-01-06 11:54:16 +0000 UTC]

Meh x3

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DearMrUnicorn In reply to NarneyBrickman [2014-01-06 16:48:26 +0000 UTC]

care to prove me wrong? join me in a game of MvM once and ill let you be soldier.

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NarneyBrickman In reply to DearMrUnicorn [2014-01-06 17:08:01 +0000 UTC]

Why not we can play sometime if you want ^_^ Of course when I'm not busy x3

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1337gamer15 In reply to ??? [2014-01-06 05:08:02 +0000 UTC]

You should definitely make one for sniper and spy, a lotta people kick me for playing as them before they even get the chance to see how good I am at it. I usually pick them kill hard to kill classes like damn uber medics, maybe you oughta show people how they are not at all useless.

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DearMrUnicorn In reply to 1337gamer15 [2014-01-06 10:29:34 +0000 UTC]

Its rare to find a good sniper, the most preffered loadout would be Hitman's heatmaker and jarate, melee weapon is optional. The best chance you have would be to get a premade, get a few tours under your belt and then pick a diffrent class on wave 1, say you would like to go sniper, people then look at your tours "10+" and you should be golden.

spy = Ive seen 1 good spy in my nearly 1000 hours in TF2 and over 100 tours all together in MvM not counting the play time on bootcamp.
I cant really give you any good advice how to play it, but yea, follow the sniper pattern aswell and you might have a chance?

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agentslate In reply to 1337gamer15 [2014-01-06 06:53:38 +0000 UTC]

i complete all the tours when I play spy but nobody gives me a chance

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1337gamer15 In reply to agentslate [2014-01-06 18:41:38 +0000 UTC]

I hear ye, I've actually completed all the missions in the tale of 2 cities as sniper, and we did great with my help. Same goes for spy, but no, some people just aren't as flexible to other people's strategies.

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ZeldaVoorhees [2014-01-06 04:44:54 +0000 UTC]

Is Engineer the next victim?

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Hasil42 [2014-01-06 01:02:26 +0000 UTC]

Just what I thought really!

Because being the Direct Hit what I personally use more, it gets harder at the beggining.

(Unless youΒ΄re playing the 666th wave, then itΒ΄s a great choice, being the splash upgrades the most important)


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arceus32 In reply to ??? [2014-01-06 00:47:42 +0000 UTC]

I Still stand by my point where vomiting 7-9 Rockets at the enemy is valid enough to use the beggar's...

...if the scout is getting cash like he SHOULD.

If the scout doesn't look like he can get 0 to 30 missed cash every wave, use stock my all means.

I guess it all comes down to personal preference, if you can make it work, use it.

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Menaria In reply to arceus32 [2014-01-06 00:56:44 +0000 UTC]

Even a spoon can be dangerous in a hand of a professional. The guide's purpose is to show a best option to start with for non-expirienced players.
And yeah it's pretty hard to find a good scout in general, which makes a stock RL just the best solution.

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arceus32 In reply to Menaria [2014-01-06 01:07:14 +0000 UTC]

Agreed, stock is the most viable for most situations for primaries



except for the short circuit, my god Β 

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XLUFERX In reply to ??? [2014-01-06 00:44:42 +0000 UTC]

Β i want to see the medic guide!!...yeah about this they have a good point but i will stay with my black box i only upgrape his clip size and problem solve!

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Menaria In reply to XLUFERX [2014-01-06 00:51:54 +0000 UTC]

If you REALLY need that additional health, then notice the fact that Clip Size cost 400$. Health on kill cost 200 and heals for 25 instead of 15.
Why people still take Black Box, I dunno.

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DearMrUnicorn In reply to Menaria [2014-01-06 10:23:07 +0000 UTC]

A reason could be the black box heals on hit, while the upgrade you're talking about is on kill, surely if you get a little AOE and dmg you can easily kill smaller ones that will give you a great profit in healing.

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XLUFERX In reply to Menaria [2014-01-06 01:24:47 +0000 UTC]

well i dont know stuff like that because im always medic when i play in offcial match

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applejackforever [2014-01-06 00:07:39 +0000 UTC]

before the last patch there were actually discussions about the beggars being just the best. Now, the rocket specialist upgrade doesnt work well with the bazooka, giving more power to the rocket launcher instead.
HOWEVER in no way was the beggars Bazooka weakened, its still as powerful as it was before. Its downsides really arent a big problem when you used it a few times.
As for the other weapons, right on the spot why theyre not good.
I wanna know though, if MrCrazyGuy had picked another weapon what would have happened to him?

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DearMrUnicorn In reply to applejackforever [2014-01-06 16:57:12 +0000 UTC]

Its often about a personal prefferance between the black box and default Rocket Launcher. People who tend to have problems surviving use the black box since they get the 15 hp pr hit and often hide because they got their noses too far ahead, depending on the mission you're playing, I too choose the black box "2-3 maps total of all the MvM maps" because of the few ranged spots for soldier, but in rottenburg and mannhatten its always the default I use just for the rocket.Β 
No doubt the bazooka is powerful when it "vomits" rockets, but thats simply not what we need in the new world? The map it would be suited best for would be last wave on rottenburg with the 3 tanks. HOWEVER we have a refund there so the scout can easily pick that if needed, and else demo, heavy, medic would still be the better choice for another round of solid heavy damage.
You too mention that the bazooka cant use the dispenser, so think about how much time you spend running around looking for ammo, and what if you have an idiot of a teammate that steals it by mistake because "hurr durrh! IM HALPING!!!" then you will be defendless for a while till you either reach a new pack or die. so why not just have a constant ammount of damage and stun on the target while useing the dispenser ?
bazooka = ok when skilled team preffeably with premades.

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applejackforever In reply to DearMrUnicorn [2014-01-06 17:02:30 +0000 UTC]

I usually use the bazooka after my first upgrade refund when i can have full reload speed and 50 ammo and some other upgrades. then ammo isnt a big concern anymore.

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DearMrUnicorn In reply to applejackforever [2014-01-06 17:36:19 +0000 UTC]

and that makes the bazooka okay to use when you're able to take care of yourself, but if you have a hard time finding ammo or have to walk far for it or cant keep up with the ammount you consume "dont buy ammo cans" then its okay, but id still use my refund in a diffrent way depending on the team.

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DearMrUnicorn In reply to DearMrUnicorn [2014-01-06 16:57:43 +0000 UTC]

Original / default = always loved by everyone.

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JuggernautUntpb In reply to applejackforever [2014-01-06 00:46:06 +0000 UTC]

In the case his sorry finger would point to ANY OTHER weapon, I would slap his head and then we would tell him why the stock Rocket Launcher is the right choice.

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MrCrazyGuy In reply to JuggernautUntpb [2014-01-06 11:14:26 +0000 UTC]

Or I'd get my spleen handed to me?

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Kevinnation [2014-01-06 00:07:06 +0000 UTC]

I can't wait to see the Sniper guide.

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Dafuqer7 In reply to ??? [2014-01-05 23:36:14 +0000 UTC]

I personally use the Beggar's Bazooka all the time on MvM. It's not hard to find ammo packs scattered around, and when you upgrade it's clip size, it's insane rate of fire will make short work of even a Tank when paired with a Crit canteen.

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DearMrUnicorn In reply to Dafuqer7 [2014-01-06 10:35:27 +0000 UTC]

tanks still go down fast if you clear out your foes first, so you dont die so you can teamwork on it.
and why spend time searching for ammo when you can stand like a upgraded sentry on a rock spraying rockets all over the place better than Sargent critz?

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